By Raïssa Robles
Jenelyn Magsaysay and Ramon Revilla Sr.
I was debating with myself whether to write about this. Sleep on it and wait for more developments, my hubby Alan who is my de facto editor, advised me.
And so I did. I’m glad I did.
Because Senator Ramon “Bong” Revilla Jr. did a most unusual thing this Saturday. He agreed to be interviewed by phone on the TV gossip show Startalk.
Hours later, that very night, he staged what the Philippine Daily Inquirer described was “a hastily called press conference” where he asked the Department of Foreign Affairs “to exert legal and diplomatic efforts to bring Ramona back to the country and face our justice system.”
Now Saturday press conferences are unusual in the news business. A prominent personality calls for a weekend press con when he has an urgent thing to say. Or when he wants to downplay an important thing, knowing people are resting and won’t really bother to read it. Sundays are usually busy family days.
A weekend press conference could also indicate haste or panic.
Anyway, two things stuck out for me in Sen. Bong Revilla’s hastily called press con. First, he asked the DFA to look for his half-sister Ramona, tagged as an accomplice to the murder of her older brother Ramgen.
Second, the senator dismissed the postings made by Ramona’s mother, Genelyn Magsaysay, on the social networking site Facebook “as an attempt to distract investigators and muddle the ongoing probe,” Inquirer said.
Then Inquirer quoted Sen. Bong as simply saying, in answer to the question about Genelyn’s postings:
Let’s not change the topic.
Oh, but we simply can’t do that.
Genelyn’s postings on FB show the dynamics between Senator Bong – the legitimate first-born son of Sen. Ramon Revilla Sr – and the woman who bore Sen. Bong’s father nine children in 23 years. That would roughly be two children every two to three years. No easy task.
UPDATE:
My attention has been called by many commenters to this piece that Senator Bong’s mother, Azucena Mortel, is not the real or first wife or legitimate wife of Senator Ramon Revilla Sr.
Actually, I don’t know if this is really case. But I’m awaiting proof.
One commenter also pointed out that Sen. Bong Revilla is not the FIRST-BORN son, but the second son. The first, being Marlon Bautista. I’ve checked and the commenter is right.
My mistake on that one.
The handsome Senator Bong, who topped last year’s senatorial elections with 19.5 million votes, is clearly eying the vice-presidency or the presidency in 2016. He is the only other senator representing former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s Lakas-Kampi Party in the Senate. The other is Sen. Lito Lapid.
I promised myself that as a responsible journalist I have to help dig up facets of the lives of every politician seeking high office. We don’t want skeletons tumbling out of closets the way they did during Joseph Estrada’s presidency.
I did some calculations and was intrigued to find out that Genelyn and Sen. Bong are roughly the same age:
- Sen. Bong was born Sept. 25, 1966 and is three years older than Genelyn
- Genelyn was born Dec. 20, 1969
- Sen. Bong’s wife, Lani, was born April 13, 1968, which makes her a year older than Genelyn.
That would make Sen. Bong 45, his wife Lani 43, and Genelyn 42. But if you look at all three, you would think Genelyn is the oldest.
Sen. Bong reveals a family secret – and bares a double standard
When Sen. Bong revealed Saturday some family secrets, such as his father Revilla Sr. feeling disappointed by Genelyn’s eldest daughter Ramona because Ramona got married at age 19 to a Turkish national and therefore she should should not disappoint them a second time and quickly return home to face the murder charge, the senator’s statement is truly rich with irony.
Genelyn herself gave birth to her first-born Ramgen – her love child by Sen. Bong’s dad – when she was only 19 years old. That must have been a hushed-up scandal then, considering she was a daughter of former Senator Genaro Magsaysay.
Genelyn Magsaysay posted on Facebook this photo of herself on February 2011
Sen. Bong fathered his oldest son Leonard Bryan (born November 1986) when he was only 20 years old and his partner Lani was only 18 years old – even younger than when Ramona got married.
It’s quite interesting that both Revilla father and son expect a far different behavior from the women in the Revilla clan.
Sen. Bong’s eldest sister, Rowena, once told PEP that the girls in the clan were barred from dating boys:
Hindi ka puwede sa mga boys; sa pagdadamit lang, grabe, sobrang strikto. I got married at the age of 30 na, ayaw pa niya. My goodness! Ganun siya.
Rowena was referring to her horny dad who had fathered at least 72 children in 84 years.
He tried to protect his daughters from men like himself.
Sen. Bong has also revealed that Ramgen was his father’s favorite son. But he did not say how he really felt about THAT. If he had resented being replaced in his father’s affections or resented the fact that it was Genelyn’s son, and not his own son Leonard Bryan, who was lolo-dad’s favorite.
Genelyn’s place in the Revilla clan
Even if Revilla Sr. fathered 72 children by 16 different women, there was only one other woman in his life who was constantly by his side. And that woman was Genelyn. Genelyn seriously came into his life when she gave birth to Ramgen in 1988.
And apparently, Azucena, the real wife of Revilla Sr., welcomed the baby with open arms. She even allowed the baby Ramgen to be dropped off to the family compound to play with her grandchildren, even Sen. Bong Revilla confirmed.
When Azucena died in 1998, Genelyn became the loving companion of Ramon Sr. Through all the betrayals and liaisons that Ramon Sr.continued to commit, you could see in their photos that Genelyn truly loved him and Ramon Sr. doted on her.
Genelyn posted on Facebook on Oct 5, 2011 this photo of herself with the elder Ramon Revilla Sr.
She and their children were there for him.
Genelyn posted this photo on Facebook last Sept. 24-11 showing Ramon Sr. horsing around with three of their children
On Nov. 6, 2011, Genelyn changed her profile photo on FB to this, showing her nine children cuddling up to their father, Sen. Ramon Revilla Sr.
Genelyn Magsaysay’s status may have changed under Philippine law
Now, this is what’s intriguing.
When Azucena died in 1998, Genelyn’s legal status MAY have changed under Philippine law. She was no longer The Other Woman. She MAY have become The Companion of the former Senator Revilla, who by then became a widower.
Genelyn posted this photo on Facebook on March 9, 2011
The 1987 Family Code recognizes the right of The Companion to inherit, provided certain conditions are met under this provision:
Chapter 7. Property Regime of Unions Without Marriage
Art. 147. When a man and a woman who are capacitated to marry each other, live exclusively with each other as husband and wife without the benefit of marriage or under a void marriage, their wages and salaries shall be owned by them in equal shares and the property acquired by both of them through their work or industry shall be governed by the rules on co-ownership.
In the absence of proof to the contrary, properties acquired while they lived together shall be presumed to have been obtained by their joint efforts, work or industry, and shall be owned by them in equal shares. For purposes of this Article, a party who did not participate in the acquisition by the other party of any property shall be deemed to have contributed jointly in the acquisition thereof if the former’s efforts consisted in the care and maintenance of the family and of the household.
Neither party can encumber or dispose by acts inter vivos of his or her share in the property acquired during cohabitation and owned in common, without the consent of the other, until after the termination of their cohabitation.
When only one of the parties to a void marriage is in good faith, the share of the party in bad faith in the co-ownership shall be forfeited in favor of their common children. In case of default of or waiver by any or all of the common children or their descendants, each vacant share shall belong to the respective surviving descendants. In the absence of descendants, such share shall belong to the innocent party. In all cases, the forfeiture shall take place upon termination of the cohabitation. (144a)
Art. 148. In cases of cohabitation not falling under the preceding Article, only the properties acquired by both of the parties through their actual joint contribution of money, property, or industry shall be owned by them in common in proportion to their respective contributions. In the absence of proof to the contrary, their contributions and corresponding shares are presumed to be equal. The same rule and presumption shall apply to joint deposits of money and evidences of credit.
Genelyn shared this family photo on Sept. 24,2010 on Facebook
Genelyn posted this on Facebook on Sept. 24, 2011
Unfortunately, the arrangement was apparently disrupted after 10 years.
On Sept. 30, 2008 – or five days after Sen. Bong’s 42nd birthday – the delicate balance of love, harmony and perhaps resentment in the Revilla clan was terribly upset. Ramon Sr. suffered a serious stroke from which he has never fully recovered.
It is in this context that we can now examine Genelyn’s Facebook account, which functions more like her online wailing diary.
It shows The Anguish of The Other Woman/Companion whose man is dying, but who still has so many years of life before her and so many children to feed.
Last Saturday, Sen. Bong dismissed Genelyn’s FB postings as mere ravings, meant to distract investigators from the murder.
That’s how he looks at it.
Genelyn’s Facebook is her online diary
I think her FB postings may actually place the murder in context.
You see, the way Facebook works, every post is time-stamped. You can erase previous postings. But you cannot go back to a previous posting and change the time-stamp. And so you can trust that if Genelyn posted something earlier than the Oct. 28 murder of her son, the time stamp for that post is accurate.
Genelyn also placed her Facebook filter to “Public” – meaning, any Facebook member can access it. Because of this, I believe I am not violating her right to privacy. Even after some of her FB posts came out in the media, she has not turned her filter to “Private”.
Which means, she wants the whole world to know her pain.
I am not siding with her. I’m merely pointing out a possible avenue of police investigation into the death of Ramgen. If his siblings quarreled with him over money, what really brought this on?
The police claim Ramgen’s murder was prompted by the siblings’ squabble over the “allowance” they had been getting from Daddy Ramon.
Genelyn’s FB postings showed that months before the murder, the allowance being doled out to her and her children had been slowly shrinking.
What has received much media attention is Genelyn’s FB posting last October 21 – just a week before her son was killed. She wrote then:
Genelyn's post on Facebook of Oct. 21-11 is addressed to someone who intends to run for the presidency
It seems to be a dig at Sen. Bong Revilla.
Seriously, under the Constitution, Sen. Bong is well qualified to run for president. And he IS his father’s political heir in every way.
What could have prompted Genelyn’s rant?
Earlier postings show that in October 9, Genelyn was having money problems because their “allowance” from Ramon Sr. had been “cut.”
Previous postings also talk about her depression and money problems:
Genelyn’s circumstances apparently changed earlier this year
Last July 31, Genelyn hinted on FB that someone was breaking up with her:
And posted the song below by James Ingram -
Minutes later, Genelyn posted again, saying
With this song by David Gates -
Minutes later, she posted yet another song saying -
Over a week later, her mood had not changed. She posted two songs – ”It’s over now”
And - she wrote “ASA TO THE MAX” along with the song - What if, babyface
But on Aug 19, 2011, Genelyn unveiled a more defiant mood in her post below:
But then her mood dropped again. On Sept 16, she wrote:
However, on Oct 14 – two weeks before the murder – Genelyn wrote this curious post with an accompanying picture of her and Ramon Sr. She said they were “consecrated” together in Church.
Is that the equivalent of a Catholic marriage? Or was Genelyn spinning a fantasy for herself?
I don’t know. But if that was a marriage, then Genelyn gets half her husband’s fortune.
Even if untrue, the Family Code of 1987 MAY still protect her and her children, as I mentioned earlier.
Genelyn uses Facebook to bare her side on the Family Feud
Genelyn and Sen. Bong Revilla are NOT friends on Facebook. This would tell you a lot about their relationship.
From her FB postings and those of her other children, you will get the impression that the children are convinced to this day that someone else is framing Ramona and Ramon Joseph for Ramgen’s murder.
For instance, her son Rueben posted:
Genelyn’s son-in-law called police investigators “stupid” -
If true, who could it be?
If not, how could Genelyn bear the thought of two children killing their own brother?
In this unfolding saga of the Revilla clan, what role will Sen. Bong Revilla end up playing?
I don’t know what happened to me this moment…but I accidentally noticed the title of this blog and got interested. I read and…the thoughts I have during the peak days of this case came to me again.
It was when I happened to read the text messages of the two suspects reported to have been in the hands of the police.
Nabasa ko noon, na isang text ng isang suspek sa kapwa niya suspek na, nagsasabi na ipinalabas na ang reward money na ang tinutukoy ang reward money na ibibigay no Senator Bong at ng brother niya sa makatulong sa ikakadakip ng mga salarin.
kung makakuha sanang muli ng mga kopya ng mga text masssages na iyon at muli maanalyze natin…kasi parang ang labas sa akin ng mga messages noon ay “parang si Senator Bong ang may utos sa kanila…at ang reward na half million ay parang palabas lang!
Sana mali ito…at sana makakuha ulit tayo ng copies ng mga text messages sa mga cellphones ng mga suspectcs na iyon.
Hindi natin kailangan magjudge kaagad…kung ako si Ramona na kaagad pinagbintangan na killer ng sarili kong kapatid talagang lalayas ako just like Senator Lacson!
Kayo honestly if you have the chance like that of Ramona…sa situation you are facing …hindi ka tatakbo?
Hypocrites!!!
That’s true.
There was a text like that then.
hi ms raissa,
matagal na itong post, pero bago pa sa akin kasi ngayon ko lang nabasa.
the ages comparison you did is already a good hint of a long-boiling relationship among the kins.
and of course, amongst beneficiaries of the old’s fortune.
ayaw kong mag-speculate, pero something is unfolding in my mind upon reading this.
hmmm…
ano?
na may alam si senator dito…hope am wrong…
@amante_rador
Sa tingin, parang meron nga.
Para ding may relasyon (intimately) si Bong at Genelyn…para pa ngang may (mga) anak silang dalawa.
Only the rich can escape like that to another country, so don’t fool yourself that everyone else would do that. Not everyone gets millions for allowances. The crimes of the rich are truly deplorable.
diba sabi ni ramona sya ang nagpapasok sa taong bumaril kay ramgen sinamahan pa niya sa kuarto.na sabi ni janel ay nakatakip ang mukha bakit pinapasok ni ramona kung nakatakip ang mukha .dahil ng pumasok sa bahay ay walng takip ang mukha at alam niyang dadating oto parapatayin ang kapatid niya .bakit hindi sya tumawag ng pulis pero tinawagan niya ang isang kapatid niya…..miba tayo dahil nabasa ko ang fb ni gennilyn puro bangit nya sa god …diba sabi sa 10 commantment bawal makiapid sa asawa ng may asawa …yung pagsusugal mo niya at pag dadrug sabi ba ng god yon ……ay naku!!!!
Hahaha! You raised good points. I find it interesting that criminals usually claim their innocence to God knowing that the Philippines is a predominantly Christian country. They do it for PR purposes. In the end though they have to prove their innocence to the Republic of the Philippines.
@charles,
para bang si tj? lol
ALL this information is just quagmire to the fact that SOMEBODY died and SOMEBODY was responsible. And as for Genelyn, maybe she should not have just relied solely on handouts from what you called a “horny dad” (poor choice of words if you ask me, try “amorous” next time). How about Genelyn get a job, how about doing business, how about her kids who are older than 18 contribute to the financial troubles of the family? Really, these are just leeches doing what comes naturally, taking blood from others to survive.
Just came across this and its like reading a real life mystery, if I connect the dots with my limited understanding, the usual suspects might not be that usual anymore. Jealousy, greed, parricide. Insighful read.
Stupid Genelyn!!!
I believe she is doing it out of desperation. Women are such frail beings destined to make foolish decisions. This may her way of black mail to pressure whoever is holding their allowance.
Ehem.
Frail?
hahaha, frail daw? i don’t find women frail…
it was an interesting read…
I’m glad.
Miss Robles,
You call yourself a journalist but you base your article on the ramblings of an admittedly mentally ill woman on facebook. Shame on you.
And who are YOU?
Still doesn’t rebut his remark.
okay na sana ang article kya lang medyo naduwal po ako sa picture ni genelyn magsaysay na naka-short.
at wala na ba syang bukambibig kundi pera, pera, pera? no wonder nagkaloko-loko ang mga anak niya dahil sa – once again – pera. and to think, si genelyn din ang pinagmulan ng away ng magkakapatid kasi di nya nabayaran yung bills nila dahil nagastos nya yung budget para dun at baon pa sya sa utang sa credit card. ang gusto ko ngayon makita yung listahan ng kung ano ang pinagbibili ni genelyn at umabot ng malaki ang utang nya.
@Pilipina tuod–sabay tayong naduwal. nakakahiya na talaga itong si Genelyn puro denials ang lumalabas sa bibig. kung harapin niya ang katotohanan eh di sana medyo nakaabante na ang kaso sa tutuong pumatay kay Ramgen at bumarll kay Janelle. Puro tanggi, alibis at maraming pang tsetseburetse ang itong si Genelyn. Sa tingin ko eh manic-depressive itong si Genelyn dahil sa sobrang pagwaldas nang pera baka nagawa niya ito during her manic mental state. Hay naku–nakakalurkey talaga.
Malabo ang anggulo ng Inheritance kaya pinatay si ramgen…edi sana si genelyn na lang ang itinumba kasi sya ang masmalaki ang mamanahin….kung love triangle…..nadevelop ang PA kay Janelle kaya binaril ito twice at galit na galit dahil sa selos kaya sampung saksak ang ginawa tapos natulog ulit….hahahahah…ano kaya ang iba pang anggulo…kung kapatid magpapapatay…bakit sa sarili nilang bahay….ang dali naman sa labas….since sa bahay din lang ginawa sana finud poison na lang edi wala ng binayarang killers at suspects….hahahaha….pagnaispelikula ito maraming manuuod….patok at ibat ibang version…but still the real killer hasnt been identified…
I could not see any unusual, haste or panic with bong calling a press con asap. it’s very much usual for you to find justice asap for a loved one you’ve lost..the very unusual thing there is his half sister leaving the country…it’s not really normal that you’ve lost your full-bloodied brother in such a gruesome crime and yet, you left for some shallow reason without even helping find justice for him..it’s not really normal that you are being implicated for such crime and yet you left without even clearing your name and simply prove to people that you are not involved..
Perhaps, there is nothing ‘unusual, haste and panic’ with Sen. Bong calling a press con asap … if indeed, he was to be the lead person for the family. But to give the press con in two personalities was to me, not right.
If he was to bail out and be the Senator of the land when things got sticky … than he should not have called a press con at all and refer it to another to be the senator of the family. He should have had the foresight to discern which duty weighed more and which one he would see all the way through.
By coming out all grand and releasing a hefty reward of 500,000, kinda huge for my taste, for any information and then washing his hands to leave the family out on the limp is not naman nice.
As for Ramona, she obviously isn’t all together. But after she had seen what in their opinion was Sen Bong’s indifference towards her other brother RJ’s police interview turned arrest … fear and isolation must have taken over whatever sanity she had … no one … not even her own father to help her clear her name … so she ran … to her husband … can you blame her?
ask lang ha lahat ba na anak ni SEN. RAMON REVILLA ganoon ba kalaki mga allowances nila?
PriscillaLu1234 … I might have lost you in the strolling (don’t know how this works) … just wanted to reply on your comment on Ramgen and the allowance … Absolutely, I completely agree with you … the two free loaders Ramgen and Janelle should have been on their own.
The texts leaves a lot to be desired for on how the household was run. For the younger siblings to go hungry and have to ran to the old man for relief paints a very dark gloomy picture … beckoning a frightful retaliation from an abuser.
A ‘strict disciplinarian’ was what the lawyers of Janelle described Ramgen according to Janelle … in my observation, he was one heck of an abuser … to use a gun on your sibling for whatever reason says he’s flipped. I’m sure, Janelle was not spared from his abuse either.
Tama ka eye–hindi naman siguro makakaisip nang masama sa iyo ang sinumang tao kumg matuwid, tama at may respeto ka sa iyong kapwa. what da hell did he hit his sibling with a butt of gun. ano ba iyan talaga. makita mo lang ang baril eh matatakot ka na eh yun pa ka kayang ihampas sa iyo. Janelle mentioned that she lived with the Revillas for 5 years –eh sino naman ang nag susupport sa kanya doon kung wala namang stable na trabaho si Ramgen? Kaloka talaga!
I think we should go back to the bible to help us understand all of these complications. There’s nothing new under the sun, it’s all been written. In 2 Samuel 13,if you will read the entire chapter: Absalom, king David son, killed his half- brother Amnon, because, Amnon raped his half-sister Tamar. From this example you will notice how tightly knitted are full siblings and how they hated the halfs. I don’t believe that Mara and Rj are responsible for the murder of Ramgen, the bible has a lot to say about this.
Good job Raissa for shedding light to all this, Genelyn and her family been an underdog.
Okay, I just saw the news clip showing Ramona’s latest statement. It was showing a page where she states that when she left the house, her brother, sister and her sister’s husband were already outside waiting for her. If this is so, how come she was “found” at a mall later on, and was said to look very confused and dazed…..now I am really starting to believe that these siblings are all involved in this murder. Wait … wasn’t she seen by the security guards walking out of the gate too? Ramona’s stories keep changing.
I also saw the video clip of Gail being interviewed at the hospital. She was denying any involvement to the crime…why was she all smiles during the entire interview? Shouldn’t she be pissed off if she were innocent?
Aren’t these sibling way too old to still be receiving financial support? Ramona and Gail are supposedly married – why do they still need monetary support from their father? Shouldn’t they be responsible for their own financial means now that they are married?
My comment about the mother, Genelyn…where is your pride? Why don’t you work? Why are you depending on this old man’s financial support ? If Ramon Sr. passes away tomorrow, what will you do? If you were at home raising your children as you claim, what kind of children are you raising? What values and morals are you teaching them? To find someone rich for them to live off? SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
that’s all …just venting! =)
If you get to a page called “Gail Bautista&Hiru Furuyama : Guilty” on facebook your head will spin … [I tried to post the link and texts (still awaiting moderation from our host Raissa) between the siblings.]
There it states that the two older married women are not getting any allowances anymore but rather they are even helping with the bills of the house … cuz of Genelyn’s inability to manage the allowance properly.
If that is so, why then is Genelyn claiming she is raising 9 kids? I will try to find that page. Thanks for the tip. I’m just intrigued by all that I’ve been reading and hearing about since this event occurred! (nosey-mode!)
The one who is asking for his allowances is Ramgen, acc. to text messages bet. him and Gail. He and Janelle should have just kept on with their careers.
Yes i agree –why doesn’t Genelyn work. She’s healthy enough and she has connection within the government and movie world. What is stopping her from doing some hard yakka. This family has so many opportunities in life but they just squandered these away. The father should put his inputs as the head of the family too. They all need counselling. The way the case is shaping up, I’d say it will take years to get to the bottom of it. Most probably Ramon Sr. would be pushing daisies by then.
There are also inconsistencies among the accusers and among supporters of Bong Revilla Jr. For example his manager or whatever, Lolit Solis said the family of Genelyn was getting a million monthly. It turns out it was only P150,000. Big difference.
Also, Glaiza is saying Gail is part of it, but her own partner who is also a witness NEVER mentioned Gail at the start. Why is that? And as to the video you saw, is it this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwSp9FsR66I.
Because you can clearly see she is angry when asked questions, but when answering she smiles, this is just normal, when a person is mad they want to laugh it off or show they are strong and not affected by crazy rumors and cruel accusations. Gail is also smiling when she holds her newborn baby. No matter what the situation, any mother is happy when her baby is born.
As for financial support, Genelyn said in an interview with Jessica Soho that she took care of Revilla Sr. when he became ill in 2008. She was with him the whole time until Ramgen was killed. That is expected, because the mother of Bong Revilla is dead, so Genelyn is the one who will watch over him.
In another interview it said Genelyn was used to “luxurious” living, quoting an accountant who noted she incurred a debt by purchasing designer bags. Even middle class women sell designer bags as a sideline business. One thing Genelyn certainly didn’t seem to do was have liposuction which is quite expensive. There have been so many cruel and insensitive comments about her being overweight.
As a young mother of nine children, her chances to have a career were probably overtaken by being pregnant and watching over her children. Perhaps Revilla Sr. also, having many other women, was not present enough to help her with raising the children.
She has already lost one son, suddenly anyone who defends her other accused children are also being accused of the murder. From JR it became Ramona, and suddenly Gail and even the mother. It looks like a vendetta against a family if you ask me.
Who will benefit from the old man’s inheritance if this family is destroyed, ostracized and taken out of the picture? All the “evidence” is from “witnesses” who distance themselves from the crime and say they just heard this from so and so. And they all surfaced immediately after Bong and Strike Revilla offered a reward. Where is the weapon? So soon after the death of Ramgen, the place could easily be cordoned off and blood samples, lab samples, etc. could be taken. People can lie very easily, especially when they will say something but add they didn’t have anything to do with it personally, which is what is happening right now.
I agree … Gail is probably the most put together of the Genelyn clique that we have seen so far. Of course, after the birth of anyone’s first born, one would have a more surreal take on things but having said that, she did look very calm and unperturbed by the questions.
Forget this Lolit Solis … just by her demeanor in this case and many others before, one can see that she wallows in filth … strives in intrigues and earns her keep doing so.
Glaiza and all the other ‘for hire’ are just what they are ‘for hire’. Lest, one of them admits to being there on that fatal evening then all their stories could very well be anyone’s tale.
It can not be easy being Genelyn. With all the other women and children pulling and tagging at Don Ramon, you’d be lucky to have any sense of self esteem. Raising or even just oversee nine children grow up is no piece of cake.
However, had she been given proper guidance, she should have worked on improving herself with the foresight that her youth and beauty would not last forever and that the old man would also grow older and useless [as he is apparently now]. Imelda Marcos did this for herself when found herself unaccepted by the so called upper class.
If she had done anything for self development [which was robbed of her by her youthful involvement with the old man] she would be a very different woman today.
Her foiled attempt at producing a movie could have only left her more daunted; so she tries buying and selling designer bags, another foiled endeavor that brought on heavy repercussions. What a mess.
None can really judge her with her atypical reactions to things. She is caught in the labyrinth of the lost of a son, the instinct to protect her accused daughter/s, her obligation to clear and work on the release her incarcerated son and her delight of being a grandmother for the first time … then, if she is still able, aid her son’s girlfriend of five years in her grief plus her recovery … How more complicated can it get … I dread to wonder.
if i have 9 children….i don’t think i can focus on work and focus on raising 9 children at the same time….i’ll choose to focus on raising my childs…… and let the man who give me 9 childer to help me….. i always put my self on gevelyn’s side…9 children?… 1 or 2 is enough to make u crazy…but 9?..i dont think i can handle it
…… GodBless u Genelyn…and ur children….. keep in faith
Agree kami japanino. Bible said, “Boast not thyself of tomorrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth´´,( Prov 27:1). If Ramon Sr. passes away tomorrow, what will happen? Genelyn said: about Luk 16:21-23, Lazarus is a beggar, who goes to Abraham,s side and the rich man to hades but Genelyn,s family are not beggars, they were fed and supported. God Said, Heb 13:5 “Be content …etc.´´. And most especially, on the first hand, she commited fornication:
Case 1: If a married man has a relationship with an unmarried woman, the man is committing Adultery, while the woman is committing Fornication.
Case 2: If a married man has a relationship with an unmarried, but betrothed (engaged)woman, the man is committing Adultery, while the woman is committing Fornication.
Bible Engineering explanation:
http://www.rmsbibleengineering.com/Page2/Adultery/Page2_1.html#item2
Abraham & Sarah were blessed by God because they were legally married as the real husband and wife. While Hagar, the second wife is also blessed materially but the great promises of God were given to the legal wife. To Genelyn, they were been blessed materially, but the great promises of God, is in the real legal family. (as my openion!!)
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(The following is the transcript of the text messages taken by police investigators from the mobile phone of Ramgen Bautista, who was killed on Oct. 28. Some of his siblings are suspected to be behind his death. The Inquirer obtained the document from sources who requested anonymity.–Editors)
Oct. 22, 2011, 9:34 a.m.
Ramgen: Ga, hiram ko nilo now saturday, meron ako activity sa imus with the seniors ah, t.y.
Gail: Okay. Ingat.
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Oct. 26, 7:51 p.m.
Ramgen: bigay niyo naman allowance ko sobra naman kayo.. sinira niyo na nga ako kay daddy tas ganyan pa… sobra naman na yan ga..
Gail: wala naman ako nisabi na di ko bigay allowance mo eh. Sabi ko kay Mommy, hinge pa ako ulit kay Daddy kasi kulang nga dahil sa mga bills na di binayadan ni Mommy last month. Kulang pa ung money, kaya nga kakausapin ko pa si Daddy. Sabi ko lang kay Mommy mag-antay siya dagil hinge pa ako kung ano ano naman pagsasabi niya.
Kaya naman nibawasan ni Daddy ung allowance kasi galit na galit kay Mommy. Dapat sakto talaga ung allowance …….200K dapat allowance niyo pa rin. Pero dahil sa galit ni Daddy kay Mommy, nigawa niya 150K.
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Oct. 26, 8:01 p.m.
Ramgen: Salamat. Pls lng wag naman sana manira kay daddy…….. pati yung sobrang past na sinakal kita pati yun ginamit para magalit si daddy sa kin…… ang hiling ko lang din “wag ako SIRAAN kay daddy” yung lang pakiusap ko dahil hinde tama ang manira ng kapwa..dag-dag bawas kasi ga yung mga kwento kay daddy. at lahat puro past na walang kwentang away…….. Malaki na tayo magkaayos na dapat….. hinde maganda puro away… nagtxt ako kay mara kanina na sana maayos na lahat at magkabati bati na..
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Oct. 26, 8:41 p.m.
Gail: Sana nga maayos na.
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Oct. 27, 5:44 p.m.
Ramgen: ga kalian mo bigay allowance ko?
Gail: Maghinge pa ako kay daddy next week. By Monday,
Ramgen: Sunadya mo talaga hinde ako isama eh…. tas hihinge ka kay Daddy tas sakin nanaman magalit, galing mo rin eh! Sobra ka naman!!!!!!!! personalan na ginagawa mo sakin eh!!!!!
Gail: Hindi lang ikaw ung hihingan ko. Kulang lahat kasalanan niyo naman ni Mommy kung bakit puro bills napunta ung allowance ngayon eh. Lahat kayo puro full payment ung required. Kahit mga bata 1 week allowance lang meron. 2 weeks nigawa ko sa food. Lahat kaya kulang.
Ramgen: Pano naging kasalanan ko ga??!!! nag iwan ka ng 32K sa Meralco at 24K sa maynilad nung month of sept.. alam mi yan…
Gail: Wala ako ginagawa sa yo. Lahat kayo puro kulang. Kahit tingnan mo pa. Niaayos ko nga lahat eh, si Mommy kasi kausapin i iyo (niyo) kung bakit kulang. Wala! Di binayadan ni mommy Meralco and maynilad.
Ramgen: binayaran niya nung month ng oct. Yung month sept ang hinde bayad ga. at alam mo yan at ni mama… hinde na nga ako kumibo nung siniraan niyo ako kay daddy tas ganyan pa gagawin mo sa kin.. sobra naman na ga! e hinde ko nga maintindihan bakit puro past sinumbong niyo eh.. para san di ba?? Para lang makasira kayo ng tao…
Gail: Pati Globe. Smart. Sun. Lahat ng utilities, wala siya nibayadan. Kaya kulang lahat ng money now. 150 lang bigay ni Dady. Wala, hindi nagbayad. Andito nga ung bill eh. Nagbigay ako kay Mommy nung money for Meralco before, siya ung hindi nakabayad. Nirereason niya, mga ligaw na cheke niya.
Ramgen: imposible ga may record ako na binayaran meralco at maynilad… yung month na hawak mo yun ang. hinde bayad!!! alam mo yan..
Gail: Naghinge pa kaya samin ni Mara si Mommy ng pera pang dagdag daw sa Meralco. Kasi nagbounce daw checke niya. Sa kinsiya umutang. Tig 15K kami ni Mara na bigay sa kanya pero hindi pa rin bayad until now. Ask them kaya.
Ramgen: Wag naman sana ganyan ugali mo… maging patas ka sa lahat.. Cge bakit mo ko sinira kay daddy??? at sinumbong walang kwentang past??? Diretso sagot kailangan ko
Gail: Mga bata nagsumbong nun. Nagpasama lang sila sakin at kay mommy la dahil wala food sila makain sa bahay. Lagi nakalock. Wala din sila magamit na driver. Ginipit mo kaya sila. Pati driver inangkin mo. Pati pagkain sa bahay, sinolo mo. Kawawa ung mga bata. Ung sa pera tanongin mo si mommy kung san napunta. Nagbigay ako ng exact. Pinagkasya ko lahat. Nagbigay pa nga ako ng breakdown kay Daddy eh,
Ramgen: ga kahit tanongin mo mga yaya hinde ko sinolo pagkain.. at yung driver ginamit ko para sa imus at pangalawa eala (wala) innova pa nun na idrive ni nilo dahil ang sasakyan ni joseph gamit niya para sa school niya.. sobra kayo!! at nung nagbudget ka ng sept wala nga kahit isang grocery eh!! Imbento mga pinagsasabi niyo
Gail: Sabi kaya ng mga yaya ayaw mo pabigyan yung mga bata. Ako pa nga naggrocery para sa kanila and si Mara eh.
Ramgen: Cge mamaya kakausapin mga yaya! harapan tayo sa yaya!
Gail: Di nisoli ni mama ung money pang grocery. Ung reimburse sa gamut di niya balik, alam niya yun. Kaya wala pang grocery. Kami pa nga nag abono nun eh. Tanungin mo kaya yung nanay niyo kung bakit walang pera…. Lahat naman sa kanya napupunta.
Ramgen: ang GULO GULO na sa bahay!!!! Eh bakit ako pa sinira kay daddy???????!!!!!
Gail: Di na nga ako dapat nangingialam jan sa bahay eh. Pero ako inuutosan ni Daddy.
Ramgen: tinangap mo yang a eh…. para control mo… pagkain lang pala problema at driver???!! Magharapan sa kanila….
Gail: Tanungin mo kaya sarili mo kung bakit. ung ugali mo sa mga bata sila naginsist, sinamahan ko lang sila lahat naman yun, si Mommy La and mga bata nagsabi eh. Nagsasagot lang ako sa mga tanong ni Daddy.
Ramgen: sus ga syempre gatong to the max ka.. magbago ka na magkakaanak ka na.
Gail: Ikaw kaya magbago. Kaya nga ayw ng mga tao jan sayo sa bahay. Kasi ayaw nila sa ugali mo. Kung pera ung problema mo, sige bibigyan kita. Papabigay ko kay Mommy mamaya. Para matapos na ung usapan.
Ramgen: ni hinde ko na nga pinapansin mga tao sa bahay.. ayaw pa ugali ko???
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Oct. 27, 6:15 p.m.
Ramgen: at prblema ko “wag ka manira ng tao” alam ko naman san nag umpisa toh sa strada ni Joseph……..wag na kayo g mag maanmaangan pa.. sinabi ko kasi sobra mura ng benta!!!! At hinde nakapag antay sa innova…. sus naman wag na mag gatong… wala naman na kasi problema diba? Strada. Ang nagtrigger ng lahat ng away… alam mo yan…
Gail: Si Daddy mismo nagbigay sakin ng Innova, siya nagpadala sakin nun. Siniraan mo din kaya lahat ng tao kay Daddy Pinapunta ko na dito si Nilo, para sa allowance mo.
Ramgen: Wala ako problema kung nasayo strada… hinde ko siniraan mga tao sa bahay… yung strada lang ang sinabi ko dahil mura ang benta sa harap ni ate Dianne, tanongin mo si ate kung may sinira ako sa inyo?? Nasayo innova
Gail: Wag ka mashado maging pa-anghel, You’re not innocent at all
Ramgen: Para san yan pa anghelll? Ang punto dito wag kang mnira ng tao! kung akala niyo may sinara ako kay daddy wala! ang sinabi ko lang yung strada na binenta that it! sa harap pa ni ate diane at ng mga nurse. Wag ka ring pa anghell ga hindi ka rin innocente
Gail: Hindi ka nisiraan kay Daddy, totoo naman lahat ng sabi dun eh.
Ramgen: Paninira yun!!!! At hinde totoong pinagdadamot ko grocery and driver… Magharap tayo sa yaya!!!!
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Oct. 27, 6:30 p.m.
Ramgen: Galit lang talaga kayo kasi dahil sa strada para ma aayos lahat mag open forum tayo lahat, para masabi natin lahat ng tampuhan bawat isa sa tin, at maayos na lahat… nakaka stress ga ang away. Pls gawa ka ng scked for that, para sa lahat.
Gail: Ok As if naman magsasalita sayo mga Yaya, eh takot sila sayo
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Oct. 27, 8:04 p.m.
Ramgen: K. tigilan nlang paninira.. parang bata eh.. isipinmo na lng ga yung magiging baby mo.. para maayos future and happy kayo dib a.. kung fun mo bubuhos attention sa paninira eh sayang lang oras dina??
Genelyn Magsaysay was accompanied by 4 children—Ragene, Ramlyn, Reuben, and Rafael—in submitting Ramona’s statement to Assistant Prosecutor Leah Roma.
Given all that has been said and published about this case I must say that it was STILL a heart breaking sight to watch. No presence and absolutely no stench of the old man, may it be his lawyer, his spoke person … no nothing … WHY?
Had there been a plot discussed … during a fit of angry …
surely, a few of us, up in our years must have been pushed to that point when we had entertained and discussed different scenarios of hiring a hit man to JUST do someone in …
5K was supposedly the going rate, more expensive if they are to be beaten up only because restrain was a commodity that was hard to come by among these hired men … so it is said
then, it was over heard by some … but of course it was not consummated.
then, the same victim goes down … would we be then guilty just based on the words of a attentive, nosy listener? Or, for even just air out our frustrations?
And just who is this Don Don? How can we have so many confessed accomplishes/witnesses and no confessed killer.
Either the old man is a complete and total douchebag, or he is being kept incommunicado by interested parties.
Both I’d say …
How about we smoke him out … and say he did it … he is the mastermind …
What if he is being kept incommunicado by this other children from the other woman? That wouldn’t be the first time in family history that this has been done. In recent times, a wealthy couple was separated by the children, those who took the father who was ill, made him sign all the inheritance to them. It made a lot of headlines.
You are so very right … that indeed was one for the books.
But, in the brief flitting moments of the old man’s sanity, when the thought of his so called favorite son’s murder comes to mind, wouldn’t he want to know what has become of it? Doesn’t he even check on the younger children, their safety and welfare … or is it just all about him?
The tragedy of showbiz mixed with politics …
the Police should continue their investigation, I have a strong feeling that that the real killer is in the senate….
Ahh. Let’s wait.
wouldn’t that be the kicker …
Or maybe someone that somebody in the senate is trying to protect.
Another potential political candidate who needs to bump off Ramgen …
I so agree with you! It’s been my suspicion since the start of this saga.
We can just all speculate. None of us were there when this happened. None of us also know for a fact if the situation the family has undergone resulted into this dysfunctional family some of us has concocted. Parents may play a vital role in a child’s character but even Satan was brought up in the holiest of places. Yet made a dumb choice.. But nice article and nice reactions..
This is too weird. Are you comparing a human family to a fallen angel who was never even human nor was raised in a human family?
where is the catholic church in all these? they have also sided with gma. Is adultery ok with the church that they gave this sr. an award? what are the laws philippines side, regarding child rape?
Did the Catholic Church award him for having fathered 72 children from 16 different women? If not, then I do not think that there is a need to drag the Catholic Church into this. The former Senator could have done good things that made him deserve the award. Always bear in mind that we should “hate the sin but not the sinner.”
You can hate the sin but not the sinner who fathered 72 children from 14 different women. Doesn’t mean you have to give him a Catholic Church award. By the way, where is this man who fathers so many children at a time when his children and the mother of his nine children need him the most? Why is he hiding behind his sickness? Parents will brave war zones and spend their last breath for the sake of their children. This one is throwing them under the bus.
your logic is screwed up! your qoutes is so way out of the field, never heard that quote before, and it seems like a universal thing to say when comprehension of certain events that you dont want to see the truth is qoute something out of a religious context.
i dont know if it is relevant to the things that happened.
Good article! I enjoyed reading all the comments as well. These are the kinds of families and leaders Philippines have . Not surprised why we are what we are today. So sad my congresswoman is Lani and my senator is Bong! I did not vote for these actors who did not even graduate from college. They don’t have any shame representing people who know more than them.
putang ina naman im listening to that first youtube song. shiet. hahay should i sleep or not
nice entry ms robles.
i wonder what date that pic of her in her younger days was taken cause
prang yan yung “fashion” back in the mid 90s ..yung sikat pa sila ina raymundo lol
why was ramona left unscathed?
why wear a mask if your going to kill them anyway ( if the killer knew the victim he would use the mask as a psychological buffer – to ease the guilt )
ramgen a revilla not a bautista anymore – ramgen represents all that is troubling the “genelyns”
ramona – chnged story twice, did a horrible taped interview- was ashamed of leavung them to die- yet now she leaves her brother to rot in jail-when (if) she is innocent her testimony would be crucial in getting her brother out of trouble
genelyn – seems more concerned and angry at the state of her finances and bong revilla than she is “greivng for ramgen and her two kids who are being accused? seems odd behaviour – you would think as a mother shed be crushed that her son is dead -yet she’s more concerned about mud slinging the revillas
last sat i went out and acidentally took someones lighter ( exactly the same as mine)
and that person asked me if i took it on purpose – i did not of course – and iw ent out of my way to sow him that we had the same exact lighter and i took it by mistake-my point is thats just my reaction to being accussed of stealing a stupid lighter – what would my reaction be if i was falsley accused of murder? and murdering my own brother to boot???
i wouldnt hide my face -slink in a corner – i would call all the major networks and profess my innocence – wether im 11 years old, 12 or 18 or 65 -
i agree with you–there are incongruencies with the ‘genelyns’ actions and behaviour to their public comments and protestations. nakakaduda talaga. i’ve watched the videos of Ramona several times and she came across as insincere.
Frank, if I may … allow me to present to you a different scenario, one that is of a severely dysfunctional ‘family’. What we seem to have here is a young girl who slid into motherhood before she became a full blown woman. Stunted was her physical as well as her intellectual and emotional growth. One after another came the babies while she strives to be a consort foremost in order to keep and sustain his favor before being a mother.
Need I say more … so now the children grows up following suit. Lost are their youth and replaced by the wants of being recognized and appreciated for who they truly are. They never really get to develop individually but rather as just a clique of Ramon senior with Genelyn. First, they carry the name Magsaysay, then later Bautista. How utterly conducive is that to growing up!
Now, we see a glimpse of a distraught Ramona, then a calm one, changing her stories, walking through the airport covered up with a RED scarf … as though saying ‘here I am but don’t look at me’ … what happened to black, the normal attire of the Middle Eastern women and also a sign that she could be in mourning.
It obviously shows us a very disturbed person, who does not at all have her wits about her. Is she grounded, obviously not. Is she normal, heck no. BUT is she guilty? Or could she just be off, scared, lost and have no one to run to too … like a father … a pillar of strength. So, she skips back to her husband of her youth (19) the very same one she thought would give her the shelter that her father failed so terribly to provide her.
Genelyn, well she does run her mouth…[reliving the good old days when she was a starlet must come to her mind as she attempts to put forth her gripes against the family that shunned her most awaited move to be the wife at last of the old man]… at the very least opportune time, the wake of her son’s murder, frustrated murder of his girlfriend and accusation of her two other children.
BUT ARE THEY GUILTY?
The crime was so brutal that it had to have been done by a deranged murder, one who has done it not once but a few times before. The anger and motivation must have been so intense to over turn the normal instant gratification that normally follows the crime.
The mask, yes maybe the murder knew the victims but then maybe that’s the way the murder operates. Why spare Ramona, maybe he run out of time or she was beyond reach … I don’t know.
I just feel that this family needs professional help and that the father should come out and shelter them. He can not be allowed to sit this one out and endorse it to a son from another woman.
Ay naku Eye– I agree with your analysis on why the family dynamics of this Magsaysay-Revilla is the way it is. As i mentioned earlier–ang ama ay may malaking pananagutan sa nangyari at di dapat ipatong lahat kay Genelyn at sa mga bata. If RJ and Mara were found to masterminded the murder, then the question needs to be begged “Why do they hate their brother so much that lead them to plot his murder?”. I can only assume that as young kids they were not properly guided by significant adults in their lives to deal and contain their emotions in an adaptive manner. As parents, we are the role model for our children if we play our cards right. Sadly, in this particular family saga Genelyn tries to play her parenting card dealt her in the best way she knows how and Don Ramon seems to be just staring at the deck of cards in front of him.
Guess what now ‘what da’ … talagang WHAT DA! … now the news has it that Gail the other young daughter of 20 years old, who is pregnant and possibly married to a Japanese national is being implicated in the murder.
Texts between her and Ramgen reveals the on-going family feud just a day or a few days before the murder. [Affirmed and sensationalized by the lady witness.] It goes to say that Ramgen, may God bless his soul was a bully who kept the food locked up and the use of the family driver for himself. So, the younger siblings asked her [Gail] and their Mommy Leng [nanny] to accompany them to see their father and ask for help.
The so called lady witness claims that the other suspect named ‘Bryan’ told them that Ramgen use to gun swipe his younger siblings and beat his mother up because he was on drugs.
Had the father been around, he would have seen to it that none of this ever happened instead of pitted one sibling against the other.
Don Ramon, the proud father of was it 75 children should be charged with RA 7619 [Anti-Child Abuse], RA 9262 [Anti-Violence Against Women and their Children] amongst other violations of the law.
remember ramonas last story was that her pregnant sister was the one that picked her up and presumably dropped her off in starmall – how is it that the new witnesses had been able to tag the only members of the family that were NOT in baguio – how convenient no?
why not question gail about the evenong she picked ramona up – where did she take her, what was the conversation, why did ramona end up shoeless?
surely ramona must have told gail that ram was murdered – and then after (gail) dropped her off in starmall??? doesnt make sense.
what makes sense is that it was not planned well and they were tryingto cook up a story to cover it up – and this is what they came up with, a story with a lot of holes.
The story should come together if and when Gail is make to answer the accusations against her plus her participation in one of Ramona’s testimonies. That is, if they can get it together and cover up the holes … lest she takes the fifth.
I have spent a few more moments than I should have on trying paste the nine kids together, their names and ages [Ramgen 23, Ramona 22 (married), Ragene Anne _, Ragelyn Gail 20 (married), Ramon Joshua _, Ramon Joseph 18, Raphael Juilus _, Reuben J _, and Ramlyn 12.]
We don’t heard much from the PMA cadet but we have seen the younger siblings in toe and quite active in the press con of their mother, visiting RJ and in putting up ‘facebook’ accounts professing the innocence of their older siblings, RJ and Ramona.
Yes, you are absolutely right to say that it was not planned well … kinda a spare of the moment thing, that most probably shocked them too.
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Here’s a clip I saw that might give you an idea of how severely mentally deranged the old Don Ramon is …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPtW6vTWils
Watch this disgusting answers of Don Ramon … listen to the gall of this man … he says : ‘ … he made it a point to impregnate all his girlfriends.‘ WHAT A Narcissist!!!
Most probably he’s just lamenting the fact that it’s becoming difficult for him to financially provide for his family; but what I would like to see is for him to ask forgiveness for not being a ‘real father’ to his children. Another point, this business of him saying Ram was his favorite is not helping at all. Imagine how the other siblings are feeling about this. It definitely SUCKS BIG TIME.
I do not think the old man will ever come to his senses and realize the errors of his ways. He has so much self grandiosity that he probably feels that they are all so very to have him for a father. The least he would do is ask for a ‘take two’ as many “has been” artist do … but there won’t be any … as there is none so available in real life.
YES, it does sucks big time … pronouncing one child to be your favorite … for with it, comes the unnecessary swelling of one’s head and euphoric self esteem that makes way for potential abuse if not guarded.
Really? Ramgen aws a bully? … and he wants to be a politician? WTF is he dreaming? well, he’s gone now, somehow some people were spared from having a bully leader…
Coco, sad to say … but guess what, bullies for leaders has been our country’s misfortune … I still have to see one who can get pass their personal hang-ups and really really service the people.
YOUR SYNOpSIS / THEORY HAS MERIT I MUST SAY.
the dysfunctionalty definitley runs deep in this family – havong said that , doesnt the dysfunctionality add to the suspicion that they (rj, ramona and now gail) could be capable of the deed? that was a very intelligent analysis by the way.
In answer to yours and my question: ‘could they have done it’ … yes, but I hope not. In a very dysfunctional environment, any and all is possible. One may ‘dodge the bullet’ [effects of the abuse] for many years, suppressed it with make believe realities for damage control and/or escape into a hopefully bail out relationship, like young marriages.
However, when the affliction extents to the younger siblings, a force so great revolts within the older ones, compounded with their own afflictions will let loose the gates of hell. We often hear of this from from abused victims who took it for many years only to retaliate against their aggressor when the offense is extended to their younger siblings [look up BWS - Battered Women Syndrome].
It is unnerving to think that a group of beautiful looking young adults can be driven [helpless] to do this to one of their very one … if indeed they did it. They appear to have so much going for them. They could very well be the friend that our very own children could bring home for dinner. If so, how could all this have gone unnoticed?
But then, we know the answer … an absentee, ‘has been’ father who responses only to adoration from his subjects, his children and fans.
Thanks for the update Eye. The plot thickens
Murderers often wear masks, duh. Because they don’t want to be caught. duh.
Genelyn lost a child and now her other children are being blamed. She is protecting ALL her children. The media is asking questions about her finances so she has to answer their questions. duh.
The family obviously had money problems. Doesn’t mean they will kill a sibling in the only asset they have which will further affect the value of their asset and hence, their income. DUH.
Really? You are so honest about a lighter? What if a family is being victimized by a very powerful family, one with connections with media and politics and all the money? So similar to a mistakenly taken lighter.
If I recall correctly, a politician escaped the country over a double murder. I guess that should be admission of guilt. Then he came back, got back his government post, talked of how he escaped to hongkong and took a train through China, and now he is cleared of the crime. I don’t know if I agree with the court ruling, but definitely, justice has its unique ways in the Philippines.
robbers wear masks , only 1 percent of murderers wear masks or balaclavas and they do that ONLY when the one who is going to get whacked KNOWS them DUH!!!
why bother to wear a mask when your going to kill em all???
hello, not killing a sibling over money??? are you CRAZY!!! read the news it happens all the time!!! DUHHHHHHHH!!!!
victimized by a powerful family _ HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THAT DUHHHH????!!!
sounds like youre lawyering for genelyns family if you ask me – sound like your a tool.
Kung titignan natin ang mga family pictures nila mukhang happy family talaga, but wag natin kalimutan na pictures can be deceiving too. Hindi na totoo yung hindi daw nakakapagsinungaling ang pictures, dahil mula ng mauso ang social networking sites pwede na hehe… Nakakaawa lang ang pamilyang ito, sa dami siguro nilang magkakapatid hindi na sila natututukan ng nanay nila para turuan ng magandang asal. Maaring kulang ang sustento nila, pero sa taas ng standard of living nila at sa dami nila, malamang kukulangin nga yun. Si Mara may asawa na at 19, pati yung isang kapatid na nabuntis daw at nagpakasal this year lang din, ibig sabihin ba nun hindi na sila nakapagtapos ng college? at ibig sabihin din ba umaasa padin sila until now sa sustento ng ama nila (dahil sabi ni Ms. Genelyn meron daw siya 9 na anak na kailangan buhayin)? Kaugalian na ng mga Pinoy ang pagkakaron ng extended family, pero mga babae sila kaya dapat mga asawa na nila ang bumubuhay sa kanila. Ika nga ng mga matatanda, “Wag papasok sa isang bagay na hindi pa kayang panindigan.” Pero mukhang kahit maaga nagsipag-asawa ang mga anak na babae ni Ms. Genelyn, tuloy padin ang sustento mula sa kanilang ama. Kung ganun, bale wala pala na pag-aralin ka pa sa mamahaling eskwelahan tulad ng Southville at ICA, dahil kahit maganda ang foundation mo, ang ending din pala magiging palamunin ka din ng magulang mo! Kaya nga sila pinag-aaral sa magandang eskwelahan dahil para magkaron ng magandang future diba? Pero bale wala din pala sa oras na nag-asawa na sila ng maaga. Nagulat ako sa sinabi ng isang site, pang-anim daw sa siyam na magkakapatid si RJ, si Ramgen na panganay ay 23, at si RJ daw ay 18, ibig sabihin magkakasunod pala ng taon (or a few months after) sila pinanganak?? Ilan na kaya sa anak ni Ms. Genelyn ang nakapagtapos ng college? Sana makatulong din sila sa nanay nila magpalaki sa ibang mga nakababatang kapatid…
Soon, justice will prevail. Their actions & words say a lot already. As Ram would jokingly say when he was still alive, ” Pag ako pinatay, hindi ko sila titigilan. “
Nku 19 at 62 punyeta yan ng edad ni genelyn baliw at din ramon nuhng ngumpisa sila. Craulo yan c genelyn. pareho mo raissa robles.. Pwe
Wawa ka naman. Dumudura ka maski sa kaisipan mo.
May TB ka?
hahaha, wag mo ng pansinin yan mga boplaks na yan..
Mga ganyang tao, hindi pinalaki ng maayus ng magulang…
Walang respeto sa sarili niya….
nice one ms. raissa, wag kang papayag na ma bastos dito sa site mo. marunong din palang mag internet ang walang modo no?
I guess that investigative journalists should have a lot of patience. I don’t. I always want to get back at those who punish the bearer of news instead of sticking to what the news truly is.
But after reading a few of your articles I am proud to be an alumnus of the same university where you graduated. How I wish I studied better to be a magna cum laude like you.
I don’t know what keeps you going despite the atrocious attacks on your person, but you must have known long before that different people handle the truth in their distinct and individual ways.
I wish you well. As they say – may your tribe increase!
Trolling? wala ka trabaho Mgagagikayi noh? nagbibisibisihan na lang sa pag iinternet.
although in philippines macho image is being praised by the numbers of women you get….one day will come that problem will arise, and when it comes its no petty problem.
let’s just see what will be the outcome of the case…. For Bong wanting to be vice president/preisident of the Philippines in 2016…. it will depend on the majority of the voters as well as the way how the election goes….
Just wondering…Bakit Pantoja ang nakalagay sa middle name ng mga anak ni Genelyn Magsaysay instead of Magsaysay? Nakita ko kasi sa passport ni Mara Bautista and sa yearbook ng youngest daughter niya. Dahil ba sa anak sa labas din si Genelyn kaya hindi niya gamit yung surname na Magsaysay? This one also caught my attention, hindi pala lahat ng anak ni Genelyn Magsaysay ay sa Southville nag-aaral, nakita ko kasi highschool graduation picture ni Mara that she graduated from International Christian Academy (ICA) habang kakagraduate lang from gradeschool ng youngest daughter ni Ms. Genelyn na si Ramlyn sa Southville, posted pa nga sa facebook ni Ms. Genelyn yung pictures. May nakita din ako another picture na years ago sa Southville pa nag-aaral si Mara. Mahal ang tuition sa ICA, pero di hamal na sobrang taas sa Southville! Hindi kaya nagiging reason din yun para magkaron ng selosan sa magkakapatid? Meaning hindi ganun ka-enough ang funds nila para sa tuition ng mga bata kasi hindi lahat sa Southville nag-aaral? Compared sa mga anak (isama nadin siguro ang apo kay Jolo) ni Bong Revilla na sa La Salle Zobel mula’t sapul pinag-aral ang mga anak although alam naman natin na mas maraming pinagkukunan ng funds si Bong…
‘m wondering too.
So papatay sila para lang makapg-aral sa mamahaling eskwelahan??
Ang alam ko lang, pag isa kang magulang na nagmamahal ka, gagawin mo
lahat ng makakaya mo para mairaos at maipasok mo sa magandang eskwelahan
ang iyong mga anak, dahil iyon ang tanging kayamanan na hindi mananakaw,
ang karunungan o pinag-aralan.
Kung titingnan mo ang mga litrato ng pamilya ni genelyn magsaysay, makikita mong
meron silang pagmamahalan at pagkaka-isa, at yan ang isa sa mga values na wala sa karamihan sa ating pilipino.
Genelyn admitted that financial support was not stop but cut from 350k to 150k after Mang Ramon pay all her credit card debt… 150K is not enough?? tuition fees and house expenses still comes from their Mang Ramon… iba talaga sanay sa yaman
Sure ka ba sa sinasabi mo?? o sa TV mo lang napapanood??
iba talaga kapag sanay sa TV kumuha ng ebidensiya…
9 person for 150k…. hahaha….. sapat na sapat daw!
Saan mag-aaral?? sa public school???
Sentido Kumon naman….
150k monthly un!..monthly!…ang laking pera nun, kahit ba 9 yan…ang GF ko ay pang lima sa 10 magkakapatid….nagawang maipagtapos ng magulang nila sa college ung 7, yung nakakbatang 3 eh college na lahat sa ngayon, isa graduating next yr, sa awa ng Diyos, ……and i doubt 150k kada buwan ang total monthly income nila(magulang at magkakapatid na nagtratrabaho)…….nag tutulungan sila at marunong mag higpit ng sinturon, lahat ng 10 na iyon eh sa exclusive catholic highschool nagtapos, mga nakakatandang kapatid once mag college eh working students, nag aral para maging scholar, mga state U pinasukan nila, hagod kabayo sa trabaho at aral ang ginawa nila, walang luha, pero masayang masya sila magkapamilya, tulungan kasi kahit hirap, tyak un……150k ay kulang sa 9 na anak?…..depende yun kng anong klaseng pamumuhay……2 yrs ng graduate ang gf ko, at may magandang trabaho dahil galing sa state u….tumutulong sya sa bayarin sa bahay at pagaaral ng natitirang 3 kapatid nya….mas magaan na ngayon ang situasyon nila dahil matyaga sila at tulong tulong, at marunong mag tipid at walang luho…..
Iba kasi lifestye nila.
150K pipichugin yon sa mga Revilla.
It might not even be about the amount per se as it is more so about their place and right to receive from the old man.
If they were tight as a solid family, they would work together and make do with what they had … but as they are loose … and in competition with the other families, every move is not welcomed and is considered to be a personal attack on their status.
Ms. Eye yours is the most sensible opinion of all. I think you are one of the best psychologist in town.
All i can say is the siblings may be too arrogant and too frank to each other but their behavior seems to be very normal, the way they fight and exchanged messages in the foods is hte as how we brothers and sisters does when the family gets into the fighting mood. But the love will always come out as evidnetly shown by Gail and Mara to Ramgen when she sent money via Nilo even they are already exchanging unprintables messages already. Also the use of kaya, eh and other conjunctions to make the message appear not too brutal is a way of showing love to the recepient.
My take on why Ramona escaped and all the siblings even the mother helping each other, is that because they are family and there is an uncontollable feelings that comes out once one of you is attacked.
I guess because of their disfunctionality and they are all minors even the mother, ramona and ramgen are minors considering their state of minds (mga walang buot) SOMEBODY OR SOMEONE WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM IT ALL TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THIS UNDERDOGS AND DIDOMETHING REALLLLLYYYYYY BAD THINKING THAT THESE MINDLESS FAMILY WILL NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO IN THE END (CONSIDER RAMONAS EVER CHANGING SOUNDS LIKE 19 YEAR OLD STATEMENTS PLUS THE OTHER KID LIKE STATEMENTS OF THE OTHER SIBLINGS). I FEEL SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS THE TRUE STORY FROM INSIDE AND WHO IS JUST IN THE SIDLIGHTS WAITING FOR THE RIGHT TIME, SOMEBODY WHO IS BOILING HOT IN THE INSIDE WHAT WITH ALL THIS CHILDLISHNESS AND MAGULONG SITWASYON HAPPENING AROUND MONEY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SOMEBODY WHO WISH ALL THIS WOULD STOP MAGICALLY BECAUSE THE FAMILY IS A THREAT MAYBE TO STATURE, TO WEALTH TO LOVE, THIS SOMEBODY FINALLY PULLED THE TRIGGER.
iN THE ENDS ALL THESE KIDS AMD THE MOTHER BECAME SUSPECT AND THEY ARE ALL IGNORANT BECAUSE THE REAL KILLER ESCAPED WITHOUT ANYBODY NOTICING. iTS SO FUNNY EVEN THE AUTHORITIES DID NOT NOTICE HIM AND NOW THEYRE POINTING ONLY ON A BUNCH OF IGNORANT MOTHER AND KIDS WHO CAN ONLY SAY ONE THING, MESSED UP THEIR STATEMENTS AND BE CHARGED MORE AND MORE STARTING WITH PERJURY.
pITY TO THEM, THE GRANDMOTHER OF GENELYN MUST BE FOREMOSTLY BLAMED FOR ALLOWING HER DAUGHTER TO GET IMPREGNATED BY A SENATOR OUT OF WEDLOACK AND STARTED THE DISFUNCTIONALITY OF THE WHOLE ANCESTRY. HAY GOD BLESS THEM, THERES ALWAYS A CHANCE FOR EVERBODY TO BE BETTER…
true!!! very true!!
More clues from fb?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=164831403613494&set=a.162329193863715.36492.161925037237464&type=1&ref=nf&_fb_noscript=1
I forgot to ask. Are you the girl scout they were talking about?
Ang clues mo INVALID…
Kung magbabasa ka, i-check mo lahat… wag yun huhusga tapos wala naman batayan….
Sinabi na nga ni Ms. Raissa, FB has a unique capability… the “time stamped”..
Pwes, balikan mo yan link mo…. Anong date nakalagay???? 2009!!!
Ilang years si Ramona sa Turkey??? 3 years!!
So, kelan siya nag-asawa at sinama ng asawa niya sa turkey??? 2008…
O Ano??? BASAG KA NGAUN??
Mag-isip muna.. hindi kung anu-ano hinahanap na butas… INOSENTE TALAGA ANG 2 BATA..
Wag na mag-magaling…
Re: The 1987 Family Code recognizes the right of The Companion to inherit, provided certain conditions are met under this provision (Articles 147 and 148)- I would just like to clarify, that the provisions mentioned do not provide for the right of the companion TO INHERIT. They merely govern the property relations of a man and a woman who live together without the benefit of marriage. Art. 147 govern those who are not incapacitated to marry each other while Art 148 apply to those who are with legal impediments, i.e. married.
Since Genelyn’s extra-marital affair with Senator Revilla Sr. existed while he was still legally married with his wife, then their property relations will be under Article 148. In such case, the division of the properties will be based on what each has contributed to the partnership. Hence, before one gets his share, he has to PROVE that he has earned them without his own labor. The rules on co-ownership applies only in Article 147.
Please note finally that those who are guilty of extra marital affairs CANNOT INHERIT from each other. The death of the legal wife did not entitle her to inherit even if her standing was raised from being a paramour to a common law wife.
Ok.
Could there be a possibility that Genelyn Magsaysay is suffering from Münchausen Syndrome By Proxy ??? Just thought I’d ask….
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchausen_syndrome_by_proxy
Thank you!
I don’t know.
But you sure brought up an interesting point.
@joancamille
excuse me! i never intimated bong revilla was involved in the murder itself.
i will say clearly so even you can understand.
revilla may well have become involved in a fast moving and potentially explosive family/political drama. one minute he was saying ramona was in his custody and after she suddenly left he denied this.
the point is he may have been torn initially and may have been attempting damage limitations subsequently.
after lots of statements he has gone quiet and not answered simple straightforward questions about his personal involvement.
obviously you believe whatever a politician says.
i know better.
hope that is clear enough for you.
The good thing about this article is the unique slant it provided in the Revilla murder case. It tries to provide a different angle and perspective to a very complex case.
It’s intriguing, just like a tabloid write-up, but also well-researched.
Hi!
I think your article provided a different slant to the Revilla murder case. In a way, it contextualizes Genelyn Magsaysay’s feelings and current rantings on her FB.
For me, what is enlightening with your article is how Genelyn was presented. Sorry to sound judgemental, but she seems to be a BIG WHINER AND COMPLAINER who needs to get a life- like a life for herself.
As for your slant on Bong Revilla, it cannot be discounted although evidence should be presented.
….Just sharing my thoughts..:)
Just want to ask Raissa when was the first time you first read Genelyn’s fb wall posts? Because when i read it there was an entry posted by Ramgen earlier in October about a tampo with his mom. Apparently Ramgem was quite busy and didnt have time for his mom, so he apologized. It was the only post made by Ramgen in Genelyn’s fb wall.
it’s not ramgen, its ram bautista who is in pma.
hmmm… It seems this blog eh para pagtsismisan ang buhay ng mga taong sobrang bagsak na dahil sa pangyayari sa kanila. for me, hope my opinion will be respected- hindi ito reporting, tsismis to ng taong gusto sumikat ::)) peace. Lets just pray for revilla family, malagpasan nila toh at wag mang yari sa atin to. May pera man sila, makapangyarihan man sila tao pa rin sila.
Why don’t you lead my latest post – on Arroyo
And the one on War in Mindanao.
So you can really see what my blog is all about.
Thanks po sa info. Salamat.
Walang anuman
Bakit naman pati si Lolit Solis eh nakikisawsaw pa sa masalimuot na situasyong kinahaharapan nang mga Revilla. Oo nga’t siya ay talent manager ni Bong pero wala namang pelikulang pino-promote si Bong ah? Ano ba yan? Dapat si Don Ramon ay may pananagutan din sa kinahitnan nang kanyang pamilya at di dapat si Genelyn na lang ang sisihin. Kungdi ba naman nagsabog at nagpunla nang “fertile seed” si Don Ramon sa bawat babaeng nakarelasyon niya eh di wala ngayong trahedya sa pamilya niya.
I’m with you on that note … if there was anything that Genelyn said thorough out this whole horrible nightmare that gives light to the whole problem is when she said … I need you … referring to the old man Revilla.
This to me is the very root of the problem. Any other family, young or old, rich or poor, legitimate or illegitimate, show biz or not … just any other normal family would have the father speaking out and at the very front row of the scene, not hiding in a hospital or behind another son from another woman.
These are his children, very young children at that just as much as they are hers … and if I may add MORE his … for when he seduced the mother, she was barely a woman at 16, a child who could only found appreciation and acceptance in his eyes.
His being the much older parent should be made accountable for his children’s actions then and most especially now.
He can not just sit this one out …
When Don Ramon was courting the 16yo Genelyn, she could have found a ‘father figure’ in him, for she longed the father she could not have since she is an illegitimate child herself.
A very destructive cycle … women beware … find yourself worth on your own strengths and abilities … not in the appreciation and acceptance of your partners … especially if you are only one of the many …
Your children will master only what they see and feel as they are growing … let them not grew in your self-inflicted perverted ways.
So the fact na gipit na sila sa pera dahil kulang ang sustento then hawak pa ni Ramgen ang Budget na maaaring natitipid pa sila nito could lead the other siblings to hire someone to kill him. What about the inheritance, will Ramgen getting a larger share? I also heard that Ramgen also had and extra budget of 50k monthly for his campaign related activities.
I am just curious on where was RJ when the crime happened? because right after the crime, the village guards saw ramona and RJ walking out of the village. I wonder where was RJ at the time of incident, couldnt it be he was the masked gunman? it may also be possible that he didnt heard anything at all but managed to walk out of the village with ramona. let’s say he never heard anything, how come ramona didnt even bothered to tell RJ what she witnessed? they were walking out of the village as if nothing happened, because in mypersonal opinion,no matter how scared you are from what you have witnessed you will still have the courage to tell it to someone once you get the chance. from my experience, when i witnessed a massacre and had a face-to-face with the killer right after the killing, i was able to inform the first person i saw, that was how scared i was.
You have to know this … 20 pesos will secure you entrance into any of the BF villages …
Wouldn’t and shouldn’t take the guards statements too seriously … just like the so called ‘for hire’ witnesses … 500K will get you a song and dance.
Agree Eye. So what’s the excuse of Ramona not asking any help when she walked out of their house???
(Sorry for the late reply … I got caught up with the country’s dilemma with a De Lima.)
From what we have seen, Ramona doesn’t appear to be all together, emotionally and intellectually. Understandably so, for growing up in an environment where you follow the lead of your mother and siblings in the solicitation and competition of your father’s acceptance, time and recognition publicly doesn’t make for strong individuals. Thus, it could send an insecure character lacking EQ into an early marriage at 19 to a very foreign national and place. (Seeking for love and acceptance in the effort to show her close affiliates that she is worth loving and is indeed special.)
It is difficult to break one as such down, because the years of ‘abuse’ and ‘neglect’ have molded them into a different consciousness, often shifting from the many realities they have set from themselves in order to cope.
Perhaps, she had a long resentment towards her older brother and even his girlfriend. Maybe she envied the relationship they shared amongst other things. Then, when the horrible event unfolded before her very eyes, she was stunned.
A normal balanced individual would do many things, at the very least cry out for help and STAY. But an unstable person would shut down, zoom out and LEAVE.
Isss, I think she was totally over ridden with an array of feelings from shock, delight, fear, guilt and etc that she needed to walk away from the scene in the hopes that she could convince herself that it didn’t happen … ‘check out’ … ‘it’s ok’ … ‘it didn’t really happen’ (just like she probably had to do many times in her life before when it got too painful).
Having said that all, and with everything that has been presented by the police and the so called witnesses, I still am not convinced of their absolute guilt.
If I am not mistaken the first wife of Ramon Sr. was the mother of Mrs. Evelyn Jaworski, the wife of Robert J. Please check out this information. I don’t know anything more than this.
I think you’re right.
as far as i know the old revilla is not married to the mother of jaworski ‘s wife mean anak sa pag ka binata ang pinakasalan niya ay ang mother nila bong legitimate wife ang mother ni bong about genelyn hindi sila legally married parang christian way lang ang nangyari between genelyn and don ramon.
Rebecca Del Rio is the name of the mother of Evelyn Bautista Jaworski.
She was a bit player in the movies in the 80s or late 70s I’m not sure.
She went to the States when she got pregnant, apparently, she’s not the legal wife if she had to run to the States with her baby.
The late Inday Badiday could have cleared this matter easily bec she was the most in-the-know of everything about showbiz of that era. Could anyone please clear this?
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this is a good article. , about the senators involvement with the case might be possible. question on why Ramona was not hurt? it might be that the mastermind intend not to hurt Ramona so that they will become the prime suspect. and the fact that HE (Sen. Bong) got custody of Ramona after… and knowing she was with HIM, how could she flee to Hongkong, why is the escort not being NAMED (it might led to knowing who was behind the escape?). And what do we have to think? Ramona flee as she wishes?
AND now, HE convicted Ramona of being guilty for not facing the charges.
I know people might not think the Senator cannot do such thing, but if the Senator can hide about his involvement of being one of the financier of the so called “WITING, WAITING, WETING” whatever. I guess this is possible
My question about Ramona is why she did not ask for help. The normal reaction would be to scream, shout for help from any person in the vicinity. Why did she not call the maids, the helpers? Ramgen’s aide? or look for them? Why did she not go to the security guards?
Last year, somebody in our neighborhood got killed in his own bedroom. As soon as the killers were gone (the killers warned the wife not to scream for 15 minutes or else she’d be killed too), the wife screamed and shouted for a long long time even after we were there already.
Trauma (as explained by the lawyer? or the mother), I think, comes later, not immediately. Am maybe wrong here though. Puede siguro Shock. But if she was in shock or in trauma, how come she herself said she was to able to call her sister to fetch her and she also said she felt shame because she didn’t call for help. Shock and shame?
Your questions are very, very valid.
Karen, you hit it right on the spot! Anyone who personally knows Bong and had a chance to be a victim of his corrupt ways would know he is capable of this. A long time ago in his womanizing days, he was implicated in a killing of a person, shot and killed right inside a car. He was much younger then. Money covers up a lot of things, therefore, no case was brought against him. There was also a caretaker who was asked to run and was shot while doing so. Apparentky, he was blamed for the death of their prized “pangsabong na manok”. And then, the Obillos case.
Will he really run for president in the next elections? What future do we have in having a president who has no soul?
Here are some links on the Obillos case:
http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=22757.5;wap2
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/217088/news/nation/murder-charges-recommended-for-bacoor-cops-in-election-day-shooting
well, the fact that ramona was there when it happened, i think it says it all. they thought janel was dead, so they left. no offense but its just a case of an unfinished plot.
but i believe that money is the main antagonist in this story. as she said in a facebook status “my children are the ones holding ourr allowance”, and ramgem being the favorite, i guess dun nagkaron ng gipitan, ng lamangan. and so the crime happened. i understand the feelings of those siblings na ginigipit ng kapatid nila, i know, sugapa sa pera ate ko eh. so let us not judge and wait for the truth.. ^_^
Yay Genelyn’s FB account is now private.
Granting the family involvement and planning w/ Ramgen is true, this young lass could have some ‘attitude’ that the other siblings couldn’t take, that even a mother could afford to agree to harm a son. What / who is Ramgen in person? I remember, on the 1st day news, when the 2 masked men came into the room and shot Janelle, Ramgen’s reaction line was something like: ” mga ‘gago’ sino kayo!”. Having fully supported political plans and given the authority to control family expenses, this could have made him so ‘bossy’ to everyone that they learned to hate him. Scaring him could have been the main plan but maybe many F#$@# words came out of his mouth already, thus it triggered provocation to be shot instead.
what i find curious and suspicious, among the clearly crafted confusion is the role of MIAA.
they said ramona was facilitated through the airport by a ‘man in barong’
next they said they could not identify him
they release photo of ramona but say they will not release photo/video of the accomplice. mmmmm
maybe it will surface in future presidential campaign. or has been bought, or accidentally destroyed.
if the helper was a certain politician or member of his staff then all his playacting would be exposed and his career finished
considering the eye of the media and all of his political enemies… why would bong organize all of this? to stain his name for presidential election?
not-so-smart analysis for you.
why would he kill his brother Ramgen in the first place?
JUST WHO ARE THESE FREAKING PEOPLE …
Now, the two clowns say they don’t know RJ, plus they were not there that night, and they have witnesses to affirm their alibi … SO, someone, anyone please tell me why again are they so credible?
Give us a freaking break …
I get it … its all about the reward of 500K posted by the Revilla brothers (Bong & Strike) for anyone who can give any information that could lead to the arrest of the murderer …
So, why not say ‘yes we all planned it but I got scared’ … ‘I backed off ‘… ‘but they did it’ … ‘he mastermind it’ … ‘she assisted’ … Spend a few nights in the slammer (get some R&R, free meals, scout out a new gimmick), get some publicity, and finally partake of the loot reward … not bad at all.
How about some solid evidence … beyond a reasonable doubt … instead of all these high voltage drama …
Thanks Raissa for your blog …
You are right about the reward playing a role in all these incredible witnesses coming out of the wood work.
Good observation.
Dont you just find it funny. The 500k, going right back into their piggy banks…
LOL.
hahaha this is funny…you’re exactly right on this
like puppets on a string? am getting that feeling too.
Just to add one more point about the entry and exit of the hired guns from the subdivision. There are guards posted at the gate of the subdivision. For non residents, it would be a usual practice for guards to get their identification cards before entry, which they collect back on their way out.
If it is true that on October 12 there was already an attempt by them, didn’t the guards notice anything? And if as reported in some media that Ramgen eventually sought help from the guards that time, wouldn’t the guards enforce stricter security protocols and be more vigilant after October 12? Wouldnt they also log it in their security logbook?
There are just so many questions that still beg to be answered.
One thing piqued my interest about a witness being paraded in media, who said that everyone was in on the murder plot, that everyone knew about it — from the mom to the siblings to the the household helpers. I find this to be far fetched.
Why would one whole family be in on it? And why would any one of them want to have the murder take place in their own home? It is like kissing the house goodbye. A tragedy like that devalues the property. It also makes it the scene of the crime that is cordoned off by the police for investigation. How can they ever live peaceably in that house again? If they planned it, would it not have been easier and more practical to do it somewhere else? Keep in mind that they seem to have financial constraints.
I am also still waiting for investigators to come up with an explanation as to how the hired gun/s left the house and the subdivision. If Mara and RJ left on foot as the PA of Ramgen alleged they did, then they could not have driven the perpetrator/s out of the village. If the perpetrator/s left on foot or used their own vehicle, it would be hard for the guard not to have noticed them leaving the village at almost midnight. In the same vein, how could they have missed their entry too?
Lastly, if their family allowance is P260,000 as is now being reported, it does not look like a whole lot of money for a large family of ten with a number of household staff to live on. For sure the amount is by no means small, but it does not look like a fantastic amount to kill one’s brother for, especially if we take into consideration what Lolit Solis said that the assets of the former Senator Revilla has been or will be divided among ALL the children. She also reported that the assets are indeed very sizable, at least in terms of prime tracts of land. If they are already assured of something that secures their future, then it would be too foolish for them to risk what they are rightly entitled to for sordid gain.
Me, too. M still waiting.
good observations.
On your points:
#1 The suspect provided hearsay — he was told by someone else that “the whole family was in on the plot”. This was the excuse given to him so that he would be willing to kill Ramgen. I don’t think he stated it as fact, but rather as hearsay — someone told him that THIS was the reason given to him by Joseph. So it is possible that RJ is still the mastermind behind the plan and he was simply making an excuse to give to the hit men in order to persuade them to do the dastardly deed.
That said, the suspect may be telling the truth — it’s the interpretation of what he said that should be understood here.
#2 The allowance of P260K is for the children ONLY. The quoted amount is P300K, divided among 9 children, with the younger children getting smaller amounts than their elders. The household/family budget and I presume, what Genelyn was receiving are separately funded. Even tuition for school is independently paid (from what I’ve read) and is separate from the children’s allowance. This would mean that each child receives a little more than P30,000 a month. If true, this is a ridiculous amount of money as “allowance”.
I come from a privileged family but my allowance was curtailed at age 18. Those kids are damn lucky bastards (get it)?
I agree that these suspects basically provided hearsay, as they did not have first hand knowledge. In fact, they seem to be too careful in trying to keep themselves a safe distance away from the actual crime itself. It may or may not be, but to some it would seem like the reward money is what some people are ultimately after.
The observation remains that for members of the family whose residence is the one in Paranaque, which is under the mother’s name, to have their sibling killed right at home makes one wonder, because it is really more practical for them to do this outside than at home. Even though it is a nicely furnished home, who will want to live there or buy it now?
Point 2 in my comment still begs to be addressed, as it is most intriguing how the hired killer/s could have gone in and out of the gated and secured village, ESP after a supposed attempt on Ramgen’s life just two weeks before. The police seem to be awfully quiet about these important components.
Lastly, the Facebook of Genelyn seems to indicate that the amount given as support for many months already had been dwindling, and become insufficient even to the point that tutors are not paid. Notice that in her Facebook she said that the finances are being handled by her children, not by her. Notice also that she had been complaining about the shortage of funds for her to buy doctor-prescribed medications for herself.
Yes, Genelyn had dwindling finances because she was P2.3 million in debt. Credit card debt for that matter. They may still have been receiving funds but all this may:
a. be held by Ramgen or her children.
b. the amount of money being given to her was dwindling because of Genelyn’s own doing. She was completely irresponsible with the money being given her.
Maybe she is being taught a hard lesson with a smaller allowance. Or maybe her sustento was mostly going to interest, no thanks to her credit cards.
Either way, they were having money problems and all this woman would do is point the finger and blame others for not helping her out.
She can only blame herself for digging the financial hole she found herself in.
Sorry, but I am surprised by the wild speculations followed by harsh conclusions you arrived at so loosely. Perhaps you know Genelyn personally to judge her like that, or that you have first hand knowledge of how she handled her finances? Otherwise, I suggest that it would be better for us all to suspend judgment and focus on dissecting the crime itself while waiting for official investigation results.
Whether she is as you say or not, only God knows for sure. As to the crime, the fact is, there remain many important loose ends untied, and several important angles such as what I and others have raised need to be seriously considered by the investigators.
In time, I hope that justice will be served, and there will be healing for those hurt and affected.
I am a financial journalist, so I know fiscal irresponsibility and can smell it a mile away.
While I agree that it is MOST important to focus on the crime itself and physical evidence, investigators must be thorough and utilize behavioral analysis, psychological examinations and circumstantial evidence to support their theories.
Even the Revillas promise to release documents showing that they have been supporting the Magsaysay/Bautista family — so we’ll see if that’s truly the case. But given how this other family lives in BF homes, has tons of cars, helpers and assistants, PLUS sends their kids to school, you can CLEARLY see the sheer amount of expenses they generate.
Are you arguing that this family was under financial distress? Maybe so, in more recent months given the way they spent themselves to the ground. But I would argue that they are used to living the good life for quite some time.
Just last June, 2011, the pregnant sibling of Mara threw quite a nice wedding. It looked fairly fancy. That kind of wedding does not come cheap.
No, I’m not arguing this family was in financial distress.
I’m arguing that Genelyn WAS LAMENTING BEFORE THE MURDER that her family was in financial distress and it bears looking at by the crime investigators. Because the investigators said money was at the root of the murder.
As a financial journalist, you would be familiar with the phenomenon of a debt-driven or credit card-driven lifestyle, which it seemed Genelyn had.
Granted she was a spendthrift, why was she one? Was she habitually one because someone else made her used to that kind of lifestyle?
You hit the nail again on the spot, Raissa!
I agree that investigators must be thorough, which is why I commend Raissa for her article and, together with others like yourself, have been raising questions in the discussion that would hopefully help them cover all the bases.
Your conclusive judgments still beg the question: Perhaps you know Genelyn personally to judge her like that, or that you have first hand knowledge of how she handled her finances? I raise this again because the strong words and conclusions used to judge her, a mom who is grieving for the death of her son, parrying criticisms and fighting for her two other children, while trying to keep her own sanity and the rest of her brood together, seems a bit too heartless.
Sorry, but I still say the same thing. Even if one is a “financial journalist” that he says he is, it does not make one GOD to throw wild speculations followed by harsh conclusions. A journalist ought to present facts and advance theories in a responsible way. As you are a “financial journalist”, it is expected of you to dig deeper and come up with insightful propositions based on hard facts and responsible editorials, while tempering our writing also to the sensitivities of the people involved, as well as the audience at large.
The latest report on Genelyn’s finances shows that she is accustomed to the good life — luxury items bought on a regular basis. She used the excuse that she was buying/selling these items for business purposes.
It may or may not be a lie. It may also have been a fabrication of Revilla’s accountants. It still does not erase the fact that Genelyn brought her problems upon herself and produced offspring out of wedlock, all with expectations that someone else will take care of her financial needs.
Well, too bad, there’s a price for everything.
Of course, she got used to the lifestyle. And I see your points — everyone here is a guilty party if you’re referring to the mess and dysfunction that is apparent in these families.
However, I personally know 2nd or even 3rd families that have gone on to be successful, who figured out a way to make things work out through their own sweat and blood and who were not spoiled rotten by easy money. These people worked, sacrificed and had enough pride not to go around begging to be supported for life.
Where is the accountability here? Sure, sounds heartless that people are slinging mud at this poor weeping mother. But the feeling of many is that these families (Revilla and Magsaysay/Bautista alike) aren’t just victims here, but also enablers.
Genelyn should be thankful she had even a dime given to her. Most men who have mistresses are pure deadbeats. She is not winning public sympathy by coming across so ENTITLED, and sad to say, pathetic.
This does not make her a criminal, of course, but it doesn’t help her cause either. It does not help that she’s seen here as pulling a “Marlene Aguilar”. We all want answers and justice for a crime committed here, but Genelyn has not helped the case by allowing her “star witness” daughter to leave the country.
The question remains unanswered whether the writer who proffered scathing pronouncements knows the family personally or knows first hand how they managed their finances to fully understand the dynamics behind the crime by considering all extenuating circumstances. It is sad to see so many armchair analysts continually finger-pointing without solid basis.
I am not sure that the daughter’s leaving the country needed the mother’s permission. As an observation, the “star witness” daughter seems to be a married individual over 21 and beyond anyone’s control.
Brilliant! it takes two to tango, right? Don’t blame all the faults to “men.”
Lesson here is to approve the RH bill. ^_^
i was so engrossed with the analytic exchanges until ms. joan camile’s take … i was floored (lol); “pagka-haba-haba man daw ng prusisyon, sa RH-BILL din ang tuloy!” Really, Don Ramon’s litter would make good poster kids for a CONDOM-ad.
Good points..also, I really think the kids are innocent. Firstly, why would Mara be there in the crime scene if she’s the perpetrator? She lives in Turkey for three years and is just visiting! If she really is, I don’t think she’ll be there inside the house during the crime.
Secondly, i am also wondering about the Personal Assistant’s testimony. His very first interview, he said he didn’t hear or see anything…and then…..reward was broadcasted, “bigla [siya] nagising”..Wow….and to think..how coincidental naman na nun nagising siya ay palabas si RJ ng gate ng subdivision at nakita niya sa bintana. AT NAG-ANTAY siya ng “mga ilang minuto” at nakita din si Mara???also, his room is at the back of the house..how could he possibly see the gate of the subdivision???
Personal experience tells me that relying on security guards, sorry to burst your enthusiasm, is unfortunately unrealistic and a big disappointment.
I live in a condo and it has happened that when I arrived late, I find them fast asleep.
I’ve been to airports where nonchalantly I was able to enter with no trouble at all.
Same is true with several malls (read about those mall killings?). You think that those wooden wands the guards use will do the trick? They are mostly the most overwhelmed, underpaid, unappreciated workers in the Philippines.
I’ve seen them with their armalites clearing tables at McDonalds, or passing deposit/withdrawal slips at banks. They eternally open and close doors with no words of acknowledgement or thanks from anybody.
True.
But I understand that last July they acquired a champion in Congress by the name of Cong. Mikey Arroyo.
I always believe on physical evidences.. because they don’t lie.. We live in a country where it’s easy to hire someone to pretend to be a witness..
Me, too.
You hit the nail right on the head.
Nice points. Good hearts all of you….at least you all care and dare to give your piece of thoughts…But whatever happened to the survivor? I think she will be the key or may have been the key for the developments of the case…well pending finality of the investigations, this is all we can do…PRAY FOR THE FAMILY…whomever is at fault we should PRAY HARDER for them…and HOPE this wont be a case like the Viscondes…well only in Paranaque.
I agree.
Impound the vehicles that were supposedly used for the crime or where they may find the joint DNA / fingerprints of Ramona, RJ and caught suspects. Simply find physical evidence ANYWHERE that links these the siblings AND the suspects and you’ve bolstered your case.
It is ridiculous to hinge the case on pure circumstantial evidence. It’s good, but not good enough. Motive has been established, as well as “consistent” eyewitness accounts. Then there is the damning behavior of both RJ and Ramona. If you go by pure criminal behavior alone, you will see that both of them are acting quite strangely.
Someone who is wrongly accused will typically be defiant and eager to proclaim their innocence. They don’t go around hiding their faces or running off and absconding from the “scene of the crime” (so to speak).
Other odd matters on behavior (I am an armchair behavioralist and psychologist, particularly as it pertains to criminal cases):
- in the crime scene, the behavior of the killer seemed rather savage. 10 or so stab wounds suggests rage (true). Using a knife is “personal” vs a gun, and usually indicates a personal connection. However, it is possible that the killer decided to switch weapons to prevent anyone being alerted to sound of (more) gunshots. Or Ramgen may have fought off the killer, who then may have lost the gun.
- there was ONE weird aspect of the criminal event that stood out to me, that Ramona said she “covered” Janelle’s face as she was talking to her. Janelle was bleeding and injured. Ramona said she covered Janelle’s face because “she thought she was gone”, claiming that she believed Janelle had already expired. But then, when you see the photos of Janelle, she is sitting upright, with blood streaming down her face. She was also said to have been able to walk down to the ambulance with assistance. So is Ramona telling the truth about thinking Janelle was dead? Janelle was clearly strong enough to move around.
Also, the act of “covering” a murder victim after a brutal crime or attack is usually done by a killer as a sign of remorse — they cannot bear to see what they’ve caused and it’s usually seen in murder cases when the guilty party / killer/ murderer is personally known to the victim. Strange that Ramona admits to doing such a move (see her taped interview).
a hired killer getting 19k as downpayment out of the contracted amount of 200k from a teenager, and balance was a promised that it would be paid after job was done? i think not even a one manned killer would accept a condition like that, how much in this case when there is more than one alleged killer involved?
agree
true
obviously, you can’t distinguish real life from the soap operas angelicapellosis. Sa totoong buhay, 5k lang, meron ka ng hired gun.
Did you even bother to think that maybe it was Ramgen she was referring to? She had another post where she was admonishing her son (probably Ramgen) for telling Ramon Sr. bad things about her own sister.
It was established that Ramgen held the finances – so it was probably Ramgen who limited their allowance. If you read the posts carefully – you would probably see my reasoning.
So Bong Revilla probably doesn’t know a thing about this. Again, Genelyn did rant that it was her son that was handling their allowance – so her allowance woe was probably Ramgen’s doing.
She talks about someone wanting to be President
maybe she’s talking about me. I want to be president.
Duh? Your reasoning is so shallow. Ramgen wanted to go into politics – maybe he wanted to be president. Maybe Ramgen said he wanted to be president when he was a kid- like boys wanted to be astronauts or something.
You missed Genelyn’s post when she berated the same person about not speaking ill of her sister, and that love is not just about being kind but also being loyal to family. I doubt she would use “your sister” if it was bong she was talking to – she would have used “my daughter”
Next.
@ raisa – it seems na parang selective reader ka. You didn’t post Genelyn’s other comment in her facebook account. It would also seem that all you are after is the downfall of Bong Revilla. How can ANYONE in their family benefit from this? It’s negative publicity… airing your dirty laundry in front of the public. Malaking kasiraan sa family nila yan. Also my gosh all Genelyn talks about is not getting enough. Hello their kids all studied in Southville INTERNATIONAL School in Las Pinas. I see them all everytime there are events at the school. Most people in the same situation doesn’t even have what they have. And yet it’s not enough?
Look, I posted ENOUGH from her FB account – t o enable you to get the flavor of her sentiments.
I am not after the downfall of Bong Revilla.
In fact, Bong Revilla could even end up using this to gereat success, in the same way he used the Hayden Kho affair to get him re-elected last year.
Look, THAT is Genelyn’s viewpoint – that she is NOT getting enough.
I don’t have to agree with that.
The only point I was making is, Bong Revilla’s viewpoint was all over the news. And then he dismissed Genelyn’s views outright.
Wait a minute, I said. Genelyn’s FB postings may be important to the case because of the way FB works. These are posting she made BEFORE the murder.
Look, I’m not a publicist nor a PR. I’m just a reporter.
I just offer news. You can take it or leave it.
Tho problem is you only offer the news that YOU want to see.
Honestly’ if you took the time to read all her posts- you would see that her rants were directed to her son Ramgen and nobody else.
Ramgen was the manager of their “allowance”. hence cashflow problems would be his fault.
When Genelyn commented that love is not just being kind, and one should be loyal to their family – as well as stop saying bad things about our sister – i hardly doubt that she meant Bong Revilla.
You a few of Genelyn’s rants – that’s selective journalism. You should have published everything!
But that would put Genelyn and her children in a bad light.
You say you’re not a publicist- well and good if that were true. You’re a better PR guy than a reporter though. hahaha.
Really?
Ramgen wanted to run for Philippine President?
If I had published everything, that would no longer be reporting.
That would be duplicating her Facebook.
U are so right raissa. i dont know how other people thinks lol.. or if they ever think at all!
Iagree with your Raissa. Ramgen was being groomed to be a politician someday but not the president of the phils (YET!!).
The closest would be Sen. Bong Revilla. Quite obvious really! Instantly I already new who Genelyn was talking about. Definitely, bong revilla. Instinct + common sense.
sorry typos*
Genelyn was referring to Bong Revilla in her fb posts, not Ramgen. She was complaining about the dwindling allowance her family was getting from the legitimate family, not from Ramgen.
She also talk about 9 younger siblings…
Ms Raissa
Could you somehow post this article to yahoo news so that more people will be enlightened…
masyado ng biased ang news ng yahoo, nacocorrupt na di lang pera pati isip ng tao…
Masyado ng nakatuon ang attention kina Ramona and RJ, i think this article will shed lights to narrow minded people
Sorry, I don’t know how.
I think one has to be contracted by Yahoo News.
got one question – who owns that Paranaque house where the crime was committed? Aside from Ramgen, Ramona and RJ, where was Genelyn and the other siblings during that time of incident?
they were in Bagiuo.
saw in the news Pque house is under Genelyn’s name.
wow, everyone was in baguio except the 3 siblings? hmmmm….
Yup, sa Baguio daw attended the military event of the other brother. Genelyn once said that the killer must be somebody who knows their personal event kasi nga it happened na wala sila. So, who it might be? I really don’t know.
That “somebody” must be the “P.A.” Hanggang ngaun wala pa rin yun murder weapon tapos para ma-rule out, sana pina-paraffin test agad yun P.A.
Yun killer, alam na alam talagang wala ang ibang pamilya ni Ramgen, sino nakaka-alam nun? Siyempre si P.A.
Kung si RJ at Ramona naman ang mastermind… dapat bang nasa lugar sila ng krimen??? tapos bahay pa nila??? hahaha… patawa talaga itong mga imbestigador.. Hindi kapani-paniwala….
Naalala ko yun sabi ng pulis, cased closed na raw dahil tinuro na ng 2 suspek na unang nahuli at ikinuwento ang paano nila “daw” pinatay ayos sa pulis… tapos nun isang araw sabi ng pulis.. nag-back out daw sila last minute… e pano nakwento un pangyayari kung nag-back out last minute?? IBIG SABIHIN GAWA-GAWA LANG NG MGA PULIS??? KAYA CASE CLOSED NA RAW?
Halatang SET UP talaga! Pulis PQUE, iba ka!
hindi rin ba alam ng mga kapatid na suspek na si ramgen lang ang naiwan?
Sinong suspek tinutukoy mo?
Alam na alam ng killer na walang tao sa bahay, kaya nagawa ang krimen tapos nagulat na lang na NANDOON PALA SI RAMONA SA LOOB NG KWARTO, kaya napurnada ang dapat na malinis na plano kaya…the only way na lang.. isangkot ang magkapatid… UNANG ARAW PA LANG…KUNG ANU-ANO NA PINAG-SASABI NG MGA PULIS AT NAG-IINSINUATE SA PUBLIC NA ” Sibling Rivalry” dahil sa Mana na 1million na ang totoo pala ay 200-300k+ monthly (imagine 9 person papakainin at bibihisan at pag-aralin), Tapos nilabas din ng Pulis na sabi pa daw ng P.A. na biniro ng driver si Ramgen ang planong pag-patay, e sa interview ng driver WALA SIYANG SINABING GANYAN…
KAYA- ANG PULIS … ANG WITNESS AT MGA SUSPEK NA DINAMPOT = KASINUNGALINGAN AT SET-UP ang nang-yari.. MALINAW PA SA SIKAT NG ARAW!
Kung yun magkapatid naman ang tinutukoy mo ang alleged suspek..
1. Asan ang Hard evidence??
2. Nasan ang murder weapon??
3. Ang nahuling unang 2 suspek pinalitan ng bagong 2 suspek (patawa! ang mga pulis).
4. Nakakulong na yun alleged suspek habang inaayos ang mga ebidensiyang kuno!
5. UPDATE: Ramona’s airplane ticket for departure is OCT. 31, Nagpa-extend siya for the burial of his brother… This proves… Ramona’ s stay here in the Philippines (having two tickets Arrival and Departure) is for the purpose of vacation… Her flight is not a sign of guilt! Talagang uuwi siya sa Turkey dahil doon siya nakatira…
6. The P.A. statement, binago ng ilang beses..
7. The P.A. is under the payroll of Senate..
8. MALINIS- NA – MALINIS, PLANADO TALAGA ANG PAG-PATAY KAY RAMGEN AT SINANGKOT ANG 2 INOSENTENG KAPATID NIYA…
Tama mga tanong mo.
ang galing no? nagulat ang suspect na nasa loob si ramona pero siya lang ang hindi sinaktan. selective ang suspek!!! ang galing!!
Selective daw?? Ed, baka selective din ang logic mo…hahaha
Sa salaysay ni Ramona (hindi salaysay ng pulis o witness ng PA), Nasaan ba si Ramona nun binaril ng suspek si Janelle? Tapos ano ginawa ni ramgen? Kaya hindi nasaktan si Ramona kasi nasa loob ng kwarto siya ni Ramgen at nasara ni ramgen yun pinto ng kwarto…
Sentido Kumon Ed.. Pag-wala ka.. bumili ka sa farmers ng biyas ng baka tapos ilaga mo at kainin mo yun utak para naman magkaroon ka… tsk tsk
I don’t buy “utak” in Farmers. I get them from my rancho. And by the way you’re telling the story of Ramona, so that in itself I can only say three words: “hindi tayo talo!”
e bkt nagbgay ng maling statement c ramona..instead makatulong e lalo pa cla nadiin..
I was sincerely thinking about what has been written here in your article ms. raissa. though i appluad you for your candor, i think, much of it was based on presumptions. putting oneself into the writings of genelyn would present a bias towards her feelings, which i could only surmise as greed. that is why i think, basing evidence on fb messages would put nothing more but insinuations. probably it would be a better investigative report, had it not been based on third hand data. thank you ms raissa.
Hello, Joan,
All that I said was – the FB messages should form PART OF THE BODY OF EVIDENCE in this murder investigation.
Hindi puwedeng i-ichapuwera lang.
That’s all.
I wanted the reader to put herself or himself inside Genelyn’s shoes. To see the world as she sees it.
And to place this world view beside that of the powerful Sen. Bong.
That’s all.
“Kita mo na. how wholistic ba is your article. while fb messages would form part of the investigation, there is much too much outside of it which clearly put in place facts and motives, which are obviously lacking in this article. hence, i could see that correlations of facts were not actually pieced out. dangerous kasi ang mga ganitong statements. especially when it comes from a respected investigative journalist like you. while this may form part of the evidence, this would surely muddle the facts. it would sow malicious thinking on malicious minds. we have to be far more intelligent than that. however, still, it is a free country. i just hope that we all put an end to speculations, the courts are not on it. let them present the case
ealejar: correction: the courts are NOW on it.
Joan,
Of course it’s lacking.
The investigaton hasn’t started yet.
Why would it muddle the facts? Oh, I get it. The facts as Sen. Bong Revilla wants it.
Look, this is a murder case.
In a murder case you do not discount ANYTHING.
YOu collect everything and then start eliminating.
But you don’t eliminate right from the start. As Sen. Bong did.
I think Sen. Bong was stressing the murder case. In that respect (and as a grieving relative) that is the most important thing. After all, if your brother or child was killed you would certainly insist against ANY deviations that might hamper the investigation. His “stand” is a point even supported by agents of the law (just take a look at any homicide case). And your story stems from Genelyn’s FB posts, as an investigator you start from the crime scene. Sure you would be touching Genelyn’s FB sooner or later but it will merely peripheral to the case at hand.
I hope Raissa you would forgive some of us, who recently became your “accidental critics.” For people like me look highly upon you. In fact you are one of the few journalists that I “consult” before making any new business investments. But in this case I think the article was motivated by a personal dislike to the Senator and that brought the article down. For me you are journalist of New York Times and Wall Street Journal caliber, but this piece here is for Showbiz News.
I don’t like Sen. Revilla, in fact we call him here the lucky stupid idiot (though he is not that lucky these days), but then again we are not journalists.
Not a personal dislike.
A professional skepticism and an awareness he could become the next VP.
rinig ko bong, bongbong, binay, jinggoy running for pres 2016. any truth to this raissa? sorry, im straying from the topic.
Then why use Genelyn? Go directly to the have dones and haven’t dones of the Senator itself as a public official. And please when you do that. Give us the both sides. Not like this kind of article that you have.
I can’t find any reasons to believe that this is not a personal dislike as you have said.
Then don’t. Simple.
THEN DON’T BE A BIAS. SIMPLE.
Are you talking about a biased cut for a dress?
agree with u Ekka.
Joan Camille ,
I agree with Raissa. All the things that were written on her blog will not muddle the facts. We have good lawyers and investigators. Truth will prevail. Konsensya na lang ang labanan dito. Kung talagang walang kasalan ang magkapatid why would they not show their face? At si Ramona why did she choose to leave in the midst of trouble? kala ko ba close ang magkakapatid at walang alitan? Di ba this is the best time for her to stay to show support and seek justice for her brother? Kahit pa sabihin na nalilito sya, she should stay kung talagang wala syang kasalan. While it’s true na buhay nila ito at wala tayong pakialam aren’t you glad na may isang Ms. Raissa who is brave enough to tell the story without taking sides. I’m sure if there is somebody from Genelyn’s side who will coordinate with Raissa to tell her side, the latter would surely accomodate it. And please take note, that the blog’s purpose (particularly this subject) is not to put down anyone . But to shed light and give us insight to think about . See if there is something to learn out of it. Wheteher Raissa writes or not , truth will come out in the end. God is in control and one day we will all give account for every word spoken. And like you said , this is a free country, I guess I am entitled for my own opinion too.
Have a nice day!!
sorry for some typo error.. *kasalanan and whether*
Without taking sides? C’mon…
JOan Camille Bautista ka ano? hehehe
Lol!
hi raissa, i’m hooked on following this revilla saga. analysing the ‘thought prints’ of Genelyn from her FB account–it’s like reading a teenager’s slum book. it’s quite obvious that she has a lot of growing up to do herself (it’s not a criticism but an observation).
i think her position as the matriarch of her family was undermined by the fact that the management of the family’s finances was entrusted to Ramgen.
I know many people have negatively judged RJ and Mara (I can’t blame them considering the facts before the police; it would be difficult to think otherwise) but I’m wondering what kind a brother Ramgen was to his siblings.
It would be interesting to get into the minds of RJ and Mara and possibly extract some bits of information from the other younger siblings too. More often than not things are not what they seem to be on the surface and people tend to idealise the memory of the loss loved one.
curios lang din po ako dito sa mga fb account ni genelyn magsaysay…. pero ng mag check ako sa fb close naman na ang account niya
parang iba po ang pananaw niyo sa pananaw ng mga pulis.
with this issue, do you think there is more big fish in this case? Bong revilla? according to genelyn FB, she is not questioning Ramon Sr. she’s questioning someone, I’m sure not her 9 kids..
Let’s wait for more evidence.
Hi Raissa,
Who will gain the most for Ramgen’s death? Have you checked if Ramgen has insurance? And who is the beneficiary?
Jerve
No. That would be an interesting angle.
Also his inheritance, if any.
I forgot how I got to this site after so many browsing and clicking from one page to another and here i am… wow is what i can say! i’ll just follow this story as well as this news, where this will lead to. kulang nalang gawing nobela). can you imagine, CSI, BONES, NCIS, LAW & ORDER rolled into one.. o diba? ;p
Tama ka.
sama mo na din ang BODY OF PROOF……
job well done miss raisa robles. looking forward to reading your nice blogs.
Thanks
hi po
Hello.
balak mo ba gawin chat room toh? asl mo? hehehe
lol.
but seriously, this does present a very interesting angle.
and for the conviction of the siblings, surely they won’t be.
it can’t be proven without reasonable doubt that they did the crime. hence, they’ll be acquitted.
as of now, that is.
if additional evidences will be found, that would be another story.
very well written, i have to say im impressed. when i first heard about the allegation that the young revillas RJ and Mara were allegedly involved, my first instinct was someone BIG could have framed them. it seems petty that somone would like to have his brother killed for petty things taking into account that these guys are also too young to even commit murder, i think. but what I couldnt fathom eh bakit kailangan gumagawa ni Mara ng story about being kidnapped. why she and RJ never called for help? in my mind, a normal person’s first instinct would be to seek help w/c they could have done considering they have maids, the driver and ramgen’s PA and not to mention that they live close to the guard house. both youngsters are well educated having gone to an international school, i expected more from them instead of running away and leaving they’re brother and the gf bleeding in death. something’s not adding up.
As for Bong Revilla, i do agree with your observation. He seems like he’s up to something.
As for Genelyn Magsaysay, i feel for her. You could sense that she did love the old Revilla. What a tragic story, a child murdered and to have your own children blamed for the gruesome crime. quite interested how this story unfolds….
As soon as I heard the news, my instincts gave me goosebumps. The following events were just what was playing in my mind. Really scary. Here is such a young family, as seen in pictures, a very happy family; you would never believe this gruesome crime would happen. This is not just a story. It is about a life of a young man wasted. Along with the agony of a mother and her young ones. Hoping Genelyn’s family will get justice.
I salute you Raissa, for braving this article.
And Janelle’s.
Thank you for reading.
Well written? Maybe up to the part that she got Bong involved – or implied a catholic wedding. It was poorly researched on that part. Genelyn belongs to a Christian sect founded or led by some Taiwanese guy.
As for Bong? Sure, he made himself look like an idiot. But it would only take a few moments to think that maybe Genelyn was talking about her son Ramgen- who held their allowance, and wanted to go into politics( maybe even wanted to be president).
If Ms. Robles posted all Genelyn’s posts – maybe more light would be shed because she assails the same person, but that time she added things about “saying bad things about your sister” and love isn’t just about being kind – but also something like covering up for people’s mistakes.
very informative read.. well done
to the Revilla Clan: Truth and Justice will prevail
Di nakkapagtaka kase kung si cain nagawa nyang patayin si abel. At yung mga kapatid ni josePh ay pinagtangkaan syang patayin. Hindi nakamamatay ang pera. INGGIT at pagiging GANID ang nakmmtay.
Very informative Raissa. Interesting read about the Revilla clan.
Good article! Personally I don’t think your article was unfair nor biased. Sabi nga ng isang commenter, ang ginawa mo lang naman talaga ay magbahagi ng impormasyon sa tao. Well done!
Isn’t it biased? Then why only the side of Genelyn were superimposed here? not to mention the title itself.
“feminism” just takes place in here. I don’t blame you gals for that.
Let’s just wait till this story turns the very last of it’s page.
And what would you call Sen. Bong’s side?
Masculinism?
Hey hey hey… “I said I don’t blame you for that.” It’s your point of view as a woman don’t get me wrong girls. I respect you all. I have a mom too.
Am I not welcome to post my thoughts in here? I’m just telling my own vision of truth in here. It is really biased because only the side of Genelyn was tackled here.
It’s no fair…
And yeah… Musculinism, Machismo, etc. whichever you prefer… But for me, as long as he stands for that truth and what’s right, then that’s what makes him a TRUE MACHO MAN.
He’s just an action star / politician that makes him a clown for you. But guys, I’m sure it is very hard for him too…
He have to choose to become a brother or a senator. He chose to be a senator of the righteousness not a brother to cover-up the mess of his own family. Why you guys find it hard to accept it.
I’m sorry but this has nothing to do with feminsim. I merely said that I (just me!) thought it wasn’t biased. Nothing to do with us being “gals”.
Anyway, I do agree that there are sides to every story. I think that this is the side that the author wanted to write about, just for this article. Maybe, if this was a novel, not a single blog entry, the author would have presented us with every bit of fact surrounding the case.
Yun lang.
what do you think for the down of 19k out of the contracted amount of 200k? do you think may mag accept ng amount na yan at magtitiwala sa isang teenager na babayaran balance after the work done? saka meron ba papayag na doon mismo gawin sa bahay nila ang killing act? ito ay palaisipan sa akin…
May point ka mam, napakadelikado kapag sa bahay nga gagawin ang isang krimen, kung magawa man ito, yun taong gumawa, taga doon din at may impormasyon din kung sino ang mga nandun, kung may tao ba ganun oras o wala… Nakakapagtaka din e… Yan time na yan… Supposed to be ang pamilya ni Ramgen dapat “lahat ” ay nasa baguio para sa kapatid nila… ibig sabihin… alam ng killer na walang tao sa bahay ( di ba? ), Nagkataon lang, na nandun si Ramona at sinabi rin niya na “magandang idea na gagawa na video”para ipadala sa kapatid nila dahil susunod sila pa-akyat ng baguio. Siguro akala ng killer wala ng tao doon, kaya malakas ang loob gawin sa loob ng bahay… Mukhang inside job at set-up talaga ang nangyari…. Bakit di tingnan ng kapulisan ang ganitong anggulo, at pinipilit nila idawit ang magkapatid… Ito pa nga, sabi ng tatay ni Janelle sa TV kagabi, natatakot sila sa kanilang seguridad… Bakit kaya?? May malaking tao ba sa likod ng pangyayaring ito kaya natatakot sila??
from the very start napaka unprofessional na ng lahat. from killers, plans, masterminds and the statements ng mastermind. Hehehe… No wonder… Ang babata pa kasi nila eh.
Tama ka, unprofessional nga on the start, sa part ng pulisya, nakita mo na napaka- UNPROFESSIONAL mag-imbestiga sa ganun anggulo . BIRUIN MO NADIIN na ang alleged mastermind na sina RJ at Ramona samantalang yun mga suspects at witness NAGPAPALIT NA. KALOKOHAN na talaga… Parang lumalabas na HINDI SIGURADO ANG MGA PULIS AT NGAUN PA LANG NILA PINA-PLANTSA PARA MADIIN ANG SUSPECT. Si Bong naman, kung matalino man siya, pede na niya kwestiyonin sa pulis kung bakit pa-iba iba ang takbo ng kaso… Halatang walang concern e. Kapatid niya yun naka-kulong ha… walang ka-remorse remorse e.
Nge, kung pinagtanggol ni Bong yung mga kapatid nya? Anu kaya magiging comment mo Unico Hijo?
I know. “napaka walang hiya talga nyang pamilyang ‘yan! lahi talga ng mga kriminal! Yang bong na yan protektor talaga ng mga kriminal.”
Hindi matalino si Bong. Ano ka ba…
minsan may hired guns na kahit isang lapad lang, papatay na.
anyway, nung binenta yung kotse, kanino napunta yung pera?
Genelyn claims that it is impossible for RJ to mastermind the killing, as he has no money. No money? He just SOLD his car for P800,000. Hey, maybe he promised P200,000 of that to his prospective hitmen!
I’d love to be the prosecutor for this case!
Jonathan, wasn’t it Ramgen’s car the three of them sold, which irked Ramgen so much? Not sure, okay? But I read somewhere in the net that the siblings commented to the wards na “pakialamero masyado” and threatening to harm (kill) Ramgen. just search for it on the net. it’s somewhere here.
Haaaaay Jonathan,
Tumugma ang gut instincts ko talaga. Hula-hula lang pero……….. hmmmm….
Oh… I think not. RJ just bought a 2011 model Montero Sport, so it wouldnt be possible.
i believe all these “unverified” details being written about the lives of people other than ourselves could be difficult to justify. What is our motive in doing this? Will we become better people in doing so? Let us not insinuate anything if we hardly know anything or pass out “rumours or innuendoes” as the truth. Even a half-truth is still a half-lie. The case hasn’t been heard in the proper court yet we somehow feel free to label the personalities involved with how our biases shape them to be.
Could you be more specific about your insinuations?
Why do people feel like they can judge this family? Let’s see —
They are the family that Filipinos may love to hate. Why? They are the epitome of what seems to be wrong with society. A “kabit” who uses 9 pregnancies and 9 children to hook a DOM in order to live the way she’d always wanted. This kabit wanted to be taken care of. It’s disgusting. One child out of wedlock is a mistake. 9 children out of wedlock is a SCAM. So there is adultery and immoral behavior from the get go.
Second, there is the lying Ramona who also decides to submit to self preservation and self-centeredness. The only people I know who will do what she did and STILL be innocent are people who are apathetic about their families or who care not a bit about the suffering of others. Anyone who truly loves their family will put themselves up, even sacrificing themselves for the sake of others. Her behavior is unusual, and this is FACT, not a “rumor or innuendo”. This is what compels people to judge her.
Third, the behavior of Genelyn Magsaysay, as she goes on the offensive against Bong Revilla, plus her lamentations in a public forum make this mother look foolish and annoying. Sure, she’s hurting, but boy, she comes across as classless and trashy. But then again, when under stress, I suppose you’d lash out too. It’s just that this woman does not know how to control her impulses. She isn’t exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.
Fourth, I am a Christian and Catholic, but all this family’s invocations and appeals to God and Jesus are quite grating. I just can’t take the hypocrisy here — Genelyn talks about how the “rich will find themselves in Hades”, when SHE herself is considered “rich” by Philippine standards. She’s been playing the role of “victim” for a long time now, as you can read from her FB grievances. So she sure has a lot of experience in taking this role to a much higher level as she works to seek public sympathy. This is pure manipulation. She attempts to paint a saintly picture of herself as she loudly declares her prayers and calls to God out loud (I also decry the cult-like behavior of her supporters as they all echo “Amen” to everything she says). Oh yeah, don’t forget how she claims “they have no permanent address”. That’s not because binawi ang bahay nila — kundi because their house was a crime scene and evidence had to be collected. Temporary inconvenience lang sa kanila iyon…
One attribute of psycopaths — they don’t have a conscience. They are arrogant and are unable to show humility. They can’t ever admit they are wrong in any way, and they love to finger point. So who do you think is demonstrating psycopathic tendencies?
Children who were raised without moral values, in a home with one parent who seems to have been unable to control such a large brood, in the lap of luxury and easy money — this situation just seems to be ripe for some kind of disaster. It was a catastrophe waiting to happen IMO.
I feel sorry for the Bautista children (and the Revilla clan, for that matter). The way this family is set up, I can only expect that this type of discord and dysfunction can only be expected.
correct!
OMG, you are so right! This is exactly what I was thinking. This family’s set-up was just a recipe for disaster from the very beginning. No moral values really taught – more of like, the balance of power comes from whoever controls the money in the family, and has the favour of the father. So dysfunctional indeed!
“The Love of Money is the root of all evil.”….tay ang dami namin…idol kita..yung share ko ha? dont forget..
trivia lang: years ago sometimes in the 70′s our relative was a good friend of Cena the 2nd wife. all our children accompanied by our relative will go to the revilla mansion in cavite during Christmas day and they were given about P100 each no matter how many they were. just goes to show that they were generous enough even before Sr revilla became senator. the gift giving was not limited to our children but to whoever goes to that mansion. i know that people still go that place on Christmas day but i don’t know how much they give now.
raisa, nice work, pinag puyatan to,,,i’m sure..let’s wait for the authorities who graduated, studied, specialized how to investigate….and how it works in court
Yes. Let’s.
I second this. Bien you delivered it perfectly in a manner I would not even have imagined.
ang alam ko ang original na anak ni ramon revilla ay si evelyn jaworski ,wife ni JAWO.
anak sa pag ka binata !
GOOD JOB RAISSA!
Hi Raissa! I read in this article from gmanews http://www.gmanews.tv/story/128501/entertainment/pep-does-ramon-revilla-sr-really-have-80-plus-kids about the children from Ramon Sr.’s ‘first wife’. And I think their mother’s from San Leonardo, Nueva Ecija. His son, Ramon Nicolas Jr. was a barangay captain and town mayor. However it gave me the impression that RN Jr.’s mother is the other woman. Accdg to Wikipedia, Ramon Sr. was born in 1927. In 1942, he married Azucena. He was only fifteen. And I think it’s improbable that he got married earlier. And it’s obvious that his first children were older than his children with Azucena.
Anyways, I hope this helps…
Thanks.
More truth will out.
And the wonderful Internet will help because this time, information is not being filtered through traditional mass media.
You misnterpreted wikipedia. What wiki says is about Azucena’s (1942-1998) entry is not the years that she was married to Ramon Sr., but the years she lived on earth. She was born in 1942, married Ramon Sr. only in the 60′s with Bong being born in 1966. In the 40′s Ramon Sr. sired children with other womann/women about those is Evelyn Jaworski.
correction … “among those..” not ” about those”..
tama
Your title is misleading. Which “Sen. Ramon Revilla” are you referring to? If the JR (Bong), it is not accurate since Genelyn is not Bong’s other woman. If you mean the SR, then he should not be referred to as Sen. Ramon Revilla, which menas Bong. The old man should be called Former Se. Ramon Revilla (since there is an incumbent using that name) or Sen. Ramon Revilla Sr.
I agree with jom. what is your motive for misleading us with the sen. ramon revilla name and say that it’s intentional. why not be straightforward and factual. why mislead ms. raissa. why do we have to be lisled? I don’t get it. I don’t want to be misled. Do you want to be misled? Do you want that it be done to you is such a case would happen to you?
See my explanation.
“Other Woman” doesn’t need to have sexual overtones, you know.
The title is meant to say – that Genelyn figures in the lives of both men. Doesn’t she?
Thanks Raissa for the very informative piece.
Beyond the murder case and the sorry plight of Genelyn, your article (and the comments) highlighted the sorry state of our Philippine society. It tells us the farce – the double and triple standards – of our sick culture.
It insinuates a “macho” mentality, where the women are at the loosing end of the game of life. Apparently, in our present state of morality, men having mistresses are tolerated (“nurtured”) particularly among the rich, famous and powerful. The women are inhibited from engaging in early marriage (but they do anyway, perhaps because of promises made to them or perhaps to escape their sorry household conditions).
I wonder how the Church, supposedly the bastion of morality, can bestow its blessings on such couplehoods (with an “s”) – a man and several women.
I wonder how a large household (with at least 14 women and 72 kids) can be managed, despite the millions of income that pour in.
I wonder how some of (maybe many of them) our political leaders can cope with and have the moral fiber to lead our country through “good governance” when their dirty linens tell us that they are not good examples of a “good household?”
Please continue what you are doing. Unfolding concerns and issue, i suppose, is the first step towards addressing them.
Yes this is the first step.
If enough Filipinos stand up and say – Tama Na. You can’t expect to run and win for public office if you have such dysfunctional lives.
Voters have to see beyond the spin made by publicists.
the suspect turned star witness “Comeda’ is perhaps an accessory to the crime hired by the revillas. Look how fast he turned over to the police… alam nya lahat ng nangyari kahit ala naman sya dun sa mismong pinangyarihan ng krimen… hmmmm…
Then, the P.A. has something to do with it… Tama si Ramona, may kinalaman yung P.A. kasi sya yung insider nila…
Tapos may pagkatanga pa sina ramona and rj kasi andun sila sa
I salute you Ms. Raissa!
Dapat ikaw ang iupo ni PNoy sa Ombudsman… pang FBI ka!!!
Peace!
Huy.
Reporter lang ako.
Well, siguro kailangan ng takutin yung P.A. baka umamin kasi di naman pala sya binibigyan ng witness protection ni Bong… hehe
Si Comeda magaling na aktor! mana sa boss nya! Galing talaga mag train ng mga Revillas! hehe
Ano ang mapapala ng mga Revilla sa iskandalo na ito? Being an incumbent government official, a murder in the family can ONLY be a negative.
It is very unlikely that the PA had anything to do with it. Here’s why:
1. The PA himself challenged Ramona to face him and the authorities. The PA is NOT afraid to stand up to these people. Perhaps he’s confident that he is on the side of truth here.
2. The PA’s statements corroborate eyewitness accounts by the guards AND what suspects have said about the case. The PA mentioned how RJ’s driver talked about the sibling’s anger against Ramgen. It’s easy enough to get the driver’s statement to see if this is in fact TRUE. If so, then this supports the PA’s account.
3. Would the PA be stupid enough to bite the hand that feeds him? And to potentially cast untoward suspicion towards him, as he is an outsider living in the family house? While it is possible for the PA to be a suspect, the chances are that he isn’t. What is his motive? Anger/hate towards his boss? If anything, this man was loyal to Ramgen (by accounts given).
4. Who pointed out the PA as a possible suspect? Who flung the blame at him? RAMONA. The person who has no credibility in this case is the one who lied.
5. Does the PA have enough money to pay someone off? OK. So maybe he was hired by someone with money to do the job. This is possible, but if so, then WHY did Ramona perjure herself? This piece of the puzzle is the most telling. The theory that there is a political motive behind this pointing to a different mastermind is hard to explain when you consider Ramona’s behavior.
It would be interesting to see what other believable/credible/realistic theories can be used to explain the crime.
The key to this is Janelle — whatever she says may lend support to one theory or another. I look forward to her testimony.
ma’am sa tingin nyo cno po ba talaga ang may sala just asking…
Alam mo, ewan ko.
Pero I think, the truth will surprise us yet.
Ramona said that to the killers (Tama na!).
Yes.
in English…. enough!
so if it was a rape case and the victim said that, you’d interpret it as is she was satisfied? fail
got this from pexer crytekmaximum : Na meet ko na itong si RJ Revilla, nag walk-in ito sa showroom namin inquiring for montero sport last august, kasama si genelyn at ramona. tama yung nasa news na binenta nya yung strada, nag pa estimate kasi yan samin kaso mababa ang appraise value ng unit niya. mura nga ang benta niya sa strada niya worth 800k, fully loaded kasi ito ng accesories. yun nga lang sa ibang dealer siya kumuha ng montero sport. nakakagulat lang ang nasangkot siya sa krimen na ito, parang kailan lang nag inquire ulit siya for his friend naman.
my analysis is that these 3 family members consult each other when making major decision for the family including replacing a car. i can not imagine them conspiring to kill their own brother/son. it’s possible an insider got hold of the bitter sibling rivalry which made it easier for them to concoct a motive for the frameup.
i see. but you are talking about RJ, Ramona, and Genelyn, right? so obviously, the three of them consult with each other….and so…… where is ramgen in the picture? di ko gets.
here’s a link:
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/90103/money-disputes-behind-ramgens-slay-says-aide
supports your post about the sale of the cars….and more!
Totally agree with you. Only a big shot can easily frame anyone because money talks.
Hi guys! I’m sorry if I interrupt. I just don’t get it.
If you guys were referring to Bong and if he’s really running for VP or as a president, then why would he organize a plot like this? This issue surely won’t help him nor give a plus for publicity.
By killing his own brother to gain a publicity? c’mon how stupid was that…
Exactly, Erika.
Di magkatugma talaga, eh. What will he gain by killing? Ang allowance? To disturb the peace? Dapat nga mas pangangalagaan niya pangalan niya (and this starts with the family) if he is seeking for a higher position.
we surely don’t know.
what if the kid(Ramgen) knew something?
Hello Raissa,
Was it ever established who receives the monthly stipend? Thanks.
Can you please check on the background of Ramgen’s PA. He lists his employer as Senate of the Philippines. He looks like he works for Senator Bong. He looks like one assigned to Ramgen inorder to sneak into the the life of Genelyn’s family. In his facebook account, he looks like he just moved to the BF homes residence very recently. His actuation and eagerness to spill the beans is very suspicious. I heard he wants to be protected by Sen. Bong, but the Senator declined, probably to avoid the connection.
sorry for the duplicate post. im supposed to point out an article i read in manila bulletin where cristy fermin divulged her research and talks with some people that Genelyn is supposedly getting ready to come out one of these days to accuse the Revilla family of neglecting them. framing up and destroying genelyn’s family for me is more believable motive.
not if someone is gunning (no pun intended) for a higher position in government.
I AGREE. Your political career is toast when an event as extreme as this is tied / linked to you. You’d be STUPID to risk your political aspirations simply to cause trouble in some family.
And why Ramgen? Let’s entertain the entirely foolish assumption that Bong Revilla is behind this plot. Apparently, they loved Ramgen the most, so why not kill one of the other kids instead and pin it on the others? Why not kill Genelyn instead as she is the loudmouth parasite here anyway?
This kind of mess in the family disrupts the lives of the Revillas, and it is highly stressful. How stupid would you be to turn such negative attention to yourself?
There is no real gain, just loss. And so much risk involved. Plus the fact that the Revillas lost an ally — Ramgen. Ramgen seems to have been closer to the Revillas than even his own family, based on “insider info” of the family.
If anything, Ramgen is the “odd person out”. He’s the one who is close to the Revillas — who grew up with Bong’s kids and was accepted as one of their own. He’s the one with the budget. He’s the one who uses the cars/vehicles of his younger siblings. He is considered the favorite of Revilla Sr.
Who’s more likely to be envious of or angry with you — the younger siblings or the older Revillas? Ramgen’s killing seems like it was done unprofessionally and by someone with little/no experience. It comes across as “juvenile”.
How can you explain this stupid statement by Ramona: “hindi ko trabaho ang i-lock ang pinto” as a way to defend the fact that she kept the door open for a killer to come in.
Here’s hoping that investigators are able to find the mask and clothes of the perpetrator already. Ang galing naman ng killer na iyan — hindi nila napansin pumasok o lumabas ng bahay??
thank you for writing down my thoughts. it could not have been well said. ramgen = very close to bong and the other side of the family.
ramgen = recipient of allowance
genelyn = no financial freedom. could have planted a seed in the mind of the two.
further escalated by the sale of the car, so carried out their long-time plan of harming ramgen.
Ed,
Pareho ang takbo ng isip natin. Siyempre, haka-haka lang, and we need strong physical evidence to prove these theories. But it all seems to lock in place.
Iyong ibang theory kasi — such as those involving politics, or that claim that the PA did it, Bong Revilla did it, some random enemy of the Revillas did it, don’t seem to work consistently with the “circumstantial evidence”, motive, and behavior of individuals already involved.
Hiding one’s face in jail, fleeing the scene of the crime, LYING, perjuring oneself — these are ALL signs of guilt which should arouse strong suspicion.
I also detest the family’s justification for allowing one of their own to leave the country — Genelyn allows a potential witness to shed strong light on the case and who may be able to help crack it wide open. Yet she says of Mara, “she’s a mature woman, and her husband has requested her to return home.”
Wait a sec. You are a witness to the killing of your brother, a heinous crime, and because your “husband calls you home” then you make this an excuse to leave? Say, she’s innocent — then fight for truth!!!
Eka nga, “she’s a mature woman, then she should stand up to accusations and give us the truth!” There’s a chance that she is innocent — but RAMONA is hiding something! She left in order to avoid spilling the beans.
Aandar ang hustisya kapag:
1. Nahuli ang remaining suspects na si Glaiza, BF niya at si “Bryan”.
2. Mapabalik si Ramona.
3. Marinig natin ang testimonya ni Janelle.
AND FINALLY:
Forensic evidence please!
1. Clothes from the crime scene and used during the killing: mask, camouflage outfit.
2. Get evidence from vehicles involved.
3. Check Ramgen’s fingernails, wounds on the suspects.
4. Find the murder weapons — KNIFE and GUN. NAG-gloves ba iyang killer na iyan? Baka tanga siya at hindi? May fingerprints iyan somewhere!!
5. Get cell phone records, phone records, seize computers (there may be documents/email that show exchanges), BANK statements/accounts. Did someone in the household start “missing money”? They may have wired a substantial lump sum to the suspects. So obvious naman!
Good they talked to household help, but they should interview the driver of Mara and RJ to find out about possible schemes being hatched against Ramgen — find out if he corroborates claims by the PA.
Jonathan’s comments make more sense than Raissa, more credible and more impartial. Sorry Raissa, you claim that you are not siding with anyone but after reading your article, it gave me the impression that you are insinuating something about Sen. Bong. Everyone is right, how would Ramgen’s death benefit his political career? Who has more to gain in Ramgen’s death? is it Sen. Bong or Ramona, RJ and Genelyn? one more question, would Ramona and RJ’s incarceration ensures his victory in the upcoming presidential election?
Read again and analyze……..kahati sa mana ang posibilidad na motibo….aysus!!!
Jonathan,
Ang galing mo talaga. Yes, we are on the same train of thought, though, again, i wish i could say it as good as you have. Now that the 2 “suspects” have surfaced, let us see what they have to say.
jonathan,
here you go:
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/designer-bags-luxurious-lifestyle-mother-murder-victim-061004986.html
but what’s the motive of the PA? with his boss dead, he does not have a job. what exactly does he gain from all this?
Dunno.
Interesting. Grabe, parang pang-soap opera itong kwentong ito. I wonder what skeletons are still hiding in the closet? I have a feeling they still have more than a few lurking somewhere.
Very Intersting! Can I share this to my FB acct.
Sure. Just press the share button at the end.
Thanks.
Here is another information that you can perhaps confirm? Genelyn is also an illegitimate daughter of the former senator Genaro Magsaysay. She used to carry the surname Pantoja. and that is still the middle name being carried by her children.
This is Genelyn’s sister.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20080427-133050/CA-upholds-illegitimate-daughters-claim-to-fathers-name
MANILA, Philippines–The illegitimate daughter of the late Senator Genaro Magsaysay gets to keep her father’s surname, after the Court of Appeals rejected the state’s move opposing her change of family name to Magsaysay.
The appellate court affirmed the November 2003 decision of the Bacoor, Cavite regional trial court that allowed Genevieve Arzadon Pantoja to change her name to Genevieve Arzadon Magsaysay.
The Republic of the Philippines, through the Office of the Solicitor General, questioned the RTC ruling before the appellate court on the ground that the change of name had allowed Genevieve to change her status from an illegitimate to a legitimate child.
Genevieve, now 40, was initially registered with the surname Pantoja after the family name of her mother Lourdes Arzadon’s estranged husband, Angelito Pantoja, in order to keep Senator Magsaysay’s extramarital affair quiet.
Dear Josh,
I think you just found SOMETHING VERY SIGNIFICANT.
This is the same Genelyn, mother of Ramgen, Ramona and RJ.
Thanks for this.
Will acknowledge you when I write about it.
Raissa
this answers why Mara (Ramona Belen Pantoja Bautista)carried Pantoja and not Magsaysay as her middle name in her passport which was showed in the news
You have sharp eyes.
Genelyn and Genevieve are not the same person. They are sisters. Genelyn’s FB profile does not show this but Genevieve’s does (puede pala yun?).
Also interesting to note that the news article doesn’t mention Genelyn.
Genevieve’s mother is named Lourdes Alzadon, while on recent news, Genelyn’s mother is supposedly Laddielyn Madrigal. But both Genevieve and Genelyn were Pantojas?
More questions than answers.
Yes, you’re right.
Thanks.
Actually, Genelyn names Genevieve as one of her siblings in a fb wall post. The article mentioned by josh herzig was also written more than three years ago. It only discussed the appellate court’s decision in her sister’s case (to change her surname to Magsaysay.) We can assume that it was after this court decision that Genelyn also decided to carry Magsaysay as her surname and changed her children’s middle name as well.
bakit gusto mo malaman raissa, gusto kalang yumaman gagawa kanang story about revilla family.. abay dahan dahan ka, baka ikaw ay makasuhan sa hindi sigradong pagsusulat mong iyan.. siguraduhin mo ang saktong ditalye… antayin nalang kaya natin kong sino ang may kasalan ng lahat, at hindi idawit ang buong revilla.. hindi man ako fan ng revilla, pero wag naman tayong mag husga sa buong angkan..
LOL
Bakit, hinusgahan ba nya ang buong revilla clan? baka ikaw ang hindi marunong mag basa…
parang puro hamburger lang ang laman ng utak mo ham? ikaw ayaw mo bang malaman? ayaw mo bang yumaman? (no offense raissa) gusto mo pa bang dahan dahanin?
I don’t know if you mentioned this but Genelyn is the love child of the late Sen. Gene Magsaysay.
Funny how Ramon Sr.’s kids all carry his first name i.e. Ramon Joseph, Ramona, etc. In the case of Sen. Magsaysay his illegitimate kids carry his prefix i.e. Genelyn and her sister Genevivie….
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20080427-133050/CA-upholds-illegitimate-daughters-claim-to-fathers-name
I didn’t know that.
I’ll have to check.
Your title is misleading. Which “Sen. Ramon Revilla” are you referring to? If the JR (Bong), it is not accurate since Genelyn is not Bong’s other woman. If you mean the SR, then he should not be referred to as Sen. Ramon Revilla, which menas Bong. The old man should be called Former Se. Ramon Revilla (since there is an incumbent using that name) or Sen. Ramon Revilla Sr.
It was intentional – Genelyn is also the Other Woman who is a strain in Bong Revilla’s life.
read the response/comments of others. yes its true philippines “congressmen/senators etc basically have no moral values or ethics. and we keep putting them back in.
that’s why we can never “improve” our country cuz those who r higher up r greedy & corrupt
its all about “me” wat can i get.. not about helping others..
there was an earlier comment about a “boxer” he too have blinded the people with his money. he may be sharing his wealth with others but he sure is helping himself with the women another revilla in the making
any hirap sa young pinays wala na ang moralidad pera ang importante
nice piece of work. we need people like you who has a heart and courage in digging out the truth, and go to the point of spreading the dirty linen in public not minding the power and capacity of the people involve.
i happened to watch the TFC news about the departure of ramona at the NIA, and heard the interview with bong…i don’t know, but i felt something as i heard his voice, panting and filled with emotion like he cannot thoroughly express what he felt and he was speaking with broken words, i felt like i am hearing an acting!
thanks for exposing a lot of loose ends. hope there will be more people like you, and please continue exposing not only this case, but the people who wants to run our country. there are a lot of them, and there are only very few of you kind. and oh please do watch your back very carefully. i will continue to follow you post from now on.
please let me share your story in facebook and twitter. thanks. God bless you
Garbage and biased article from a sourgraping journalist fanning the fire. For internet traffic?Hits? Insurmountable corroborating statements from the suspects. Too much information given by the witnesses matching the investigations..you can’t orchestrate that. Leaving the country,inconsistent statements,body language..cmon! Even the dumbest prosecutor can win this one. That’s their personal life, why go cheap? Whether person x,y,z fathered a million child thats irrelevant. The murderer/s must be punished to the full extent of the lawnd justice must be served to the young kid that died.
If this is garbage, why are you here?
you’re right raissa. mga taong nagbubulag bulagan, di makikita ang katotohanan.
HAHAHA. You take shots on people and you don’t wanna be commented?garbage! By the way, since when did setting a facebook account to “public” synonymous to ANYONE-can-just-repost-to-any-article/blog-without-the-owner’s-written/verbal consent? It’s public but that doesn’t mean you can use it at will,worst use on your article.LOL. In a nutshell,for instance i rebroadcast,distribute,reproduce etc. ABS-CBN’s shows without their consent, does that mean it’s FINE..because it’s publicly shown anyway? Oh by d way,im here so u can get more traffic in ur blog.:D
All I’m saying is not I’m not breaking her privacy.
As for rebroadcasting or reproducing ABS-CBN, that is a different matter altogether – it’s a matter of COPYRIGHT. Not privacy.
Nahihilo ako sa English mo! Tagalugin mo na lang kaya.
Chit strikes a powerful point here. Why try so hard to relate Bong with this?
Oh I get it. you want to be tagged as a rebel of the higher-ups and politicians.
In the first place, Genelyn was fully aware that she has just entered a very complicated relationship with Revilla Sr.
She must have known that from the very start. So she should blame herself for being such a bitch for Revilla. Why complain? Dapat from the very start naisip nya na ‘yon. Yang mga ganyang babae ang nagdedegrade sa ating gender. Kung bakit tayo inferior sa mga lalaki mula noon pa. Walang tutulong satin kundi tayo lang din.
Kaya nga tayo binigyan ng Diyos ng freewill to think and balance our decisions in life di ba?
Wag n’yo nang ipagtanggol si Genelyn. Ginusto nya ‘yan, well pagsisihan nya yan, hindi yong kung kani-kanino nya sinisisi yong misery nya sa buhay.
grabe ka nmn mkapanglait kay genelyn sa pgiging other woman nya,pasalamat ka nlng kung d kna katulad!madali para sa mga tao ang mgisip na mali xa o tama xa kc wla tau sa posisyon nya,,ako dko gugustuhin mangyari sken na other woman na nga ako pinatay ang anak ko tas pgbbintangan pa mga anak mo at pati ikaw na suspects.sana nga malaman na ang totoo,marami jan interesado sa pabuya kesa sbihin ang totoo!!dapat wag bias ang police magimbestiga cla wag din cla mginteres sa pera..wag tau manghusga d madali pingdadaanan ng pamilya nila!!
you can no longer find genelyn magsaysay’s facebook page.
A fly always choose the garbage..he..he..he
please don’t comment if you know NOTHING ABOUT THEM, DON’T TALK.
DO NOT TALK. YOU DON’T KNOW RAMONA, YOU DON’T KNOW RAMGEN.
YOU KNOW, NO ONE.
I SUGGEST YOU STOP WATCHING TV AND TRYING READING MORE, YOU CALL THIS GARBAGE?
YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE REAL GARBAGE IS, THAT’S PHILIPPINE TV AND MEDIA, THOSE PEOPLE KNOW NOTHING.. THEY ARE TOO SHALLOW.
AND SO ARE YOU.
PLEASE, STUDY LAW, SO DON’T CONTRIBUTE TO THE INDIOCY AND STUPIDITY IN THIS COUNTRY.
You were actually right, this is such a biased article, I am just very disappointed why I read this.
Aaah. Too late.
LOL
usually kpag nadidisappoint ang tao their 1st initiative is just to leave the article e mukhang nabasa mo hanggang dulo bago ka nadissappoint. salamat may mga blog na gaya nito no matter kung sino lumabas na suspect ang importante mabulgar ang totoong mastermind kc nkakaawa naman ung namatay diba. SORRY TAMA SI MS RAISSA LATE KNA TE SNA DKNA NAGCOMMENT…..PEACE
Raissa,
Nice job.. well done.. i want to read more about this family feud.
Wills from New Zealand
Very good investigative journalistic skills demonstrated here! Keep up the good work!
Just wanted to point out a little typo, perhaps. *widower
Genelyn Magsaysay’s status may have changed under Philippine law
Now, this is what’s intriguing.
When Azucena died in 1998, Genelyn’s legal status MAY have changed under Philippine law. She was no longer The Other Woman. She MAY have become The Companion of the former Senator Revilla, who by then became a widow. [WIDOWER]
Thanks. I’ll correct that.
watching & reading about the Revilla hullabaloo of unresolved case is like reading a Sidney Sheldon novel… full of intrigues, personal / political agenda.. & who knows maybe the ending will also shock all of us. Nonetheless, I do hope sibling rivalry is not the reason for this. Just so disheartening to think how can one kill a brother/sister for whatever reason he/she has. Keep on writing about the case Ms. Raiza.
Indeed true, this is worth a Sidney Sheldon novel.
I believe the end will really shock everyone.
The story is worth writing, like SS novels, it would surely be a hit.
Great article!
There is definitely a “tug of war” in their family but i personally believe that Bong does not have anything to do with the killing. I really don’t like him and it is disgusting that he is still an actor while being a senator just like the other one who still box. I am saying this just bec he will not gain anything from it. He is just doing damage control now to save his name for the next election since if he sided with his half siblings then people will be angry at him for sure.
As for Genelyn, she MAY not be involved though it could go either way. Yes there is money problem but she seems to have an issue with Sr. and Jr. and not with her eldest son. I don’t think killing Ramgen will solve her current problem.
As for the siblings, Ramona is just plain comedy. She is to a tee the definition of a psychopath. I really don’t want to judge her but everything she says is plain wrong and abnormal. From calling help, fabricating a kidnap story to releasing a very unconvincing video, it seems she has definitely beaten “the boy who cried wolf” and pinocchio. As for RJ, there is too little info so we really cannot make any comment.
At the end, Ramgen and Janelle should be at the center of this whole thing and may both of them find justice!
I actually share the sam analysis with you.
Thanks!
We can see it as small as sibling rivalry or big as political agenda but the evidence is staring right at us.
The video of Ramona is already IT. Her stories are so bogus that even someone so dumb will instinctively call help given the circumstances and make it known asap. She is the big RED FLAG
Also, I think the killing between siblings is a taboo here in the Philippines and a bit petty in this case so people are finding it difficult to process it unlike politicians killing another. Anyway, it is really a mind game. The more you add “what ifs” it becomes a blur!
good investigative journalistic skills? then why is Sen. Bong alluded to in this article? what has he got to do with the killing of Ramgen? evidence please? motives please? political career? He’ll gain nothing from this. I agree with Stan!
Again, give me time to explain. I’m waiting for evidence to unfold – either way. all I’m saying is, you cannot discount anything at all at this point of the investigation.
Some people are just slow in understanding Ms. Raissa.
From what I’ve read, you never mentioned or gave the impression that Bong is the mastermind.
You only showed that there is another angle.
Might not be true but definitely worth looking at.
I agree that investigation should be done by collection then selection…
Thanks alot Raissa…
I am just wondering… is the “Don Ramon” a normal person? If he is in his right, responsible, God fearing sense, there will be no 74 children from 14 women… he’ll never have a ‘peace of mind’ because he started all of these.
I just wish this will end peacefully w/o those ‘other’ families joining in the squable…
I wish this would be a big lesson to his ‘other’ families – that they would know their real status and learn to be contented and be thankful w/ whatever is shared to them.
Let us pray instead for a joyous Christmas season for the Bautista Clan.
only 45 children…
ONLY .
ha ha ok, i stand corrected – 45 Only and its still no joke… this is traumatic to the kids.
interesting article. karma na yan
you’ve raised many good points to ponder. personally, i feel very sad for all the people involved in this situation in particular to genelyn. this is a very dysfunctional family and the tragedy highlights the importance of the role of a father in each of his child’s life. i hope the rest of genelyn’s children are getting proper counselling at this stage because they do need to acknowledge, explore and work out how to deal with the emotions and behaviour that come with this family tragedy. i hate to think how these children will be in 5 years time if proper counselling is not afforded them today.
Me, too.
please check on the background of Ramgen’s PA. He lists his employer as Senate of the Philippines. He looks like he works for Senator Bong. He looks like one assigned to Ramgen inorder to sneak into the the life of Genelyn’s family. In his facebook account, he looks like he just moved to the BF homes residence very recently. His actuation and eagerness to spill the beans is very suspicious. I heard he wants to be protected by Sen. Bong, but the Senator declined, probably to avoid the connection.
ummm, i can smell something fishy!
If Ramgen’s PA is on the payroll of Sen Bong Revilla Jr’s Senate staff office, it’s another issue!
I agree. Still have to check this, though.
Could it be another example of how politicians make kurakot?
Like how the lady congressman enlisted her employees in her “bayad center” so the government pays for their salary instead.
Just like how Jason Webb is under the payroll of Sen Webb back then though he [Jason] didnt work for the senate.
Just like a local politician in laguna who has her relatives in the municipal payroll though they are not working for the government.
If more people like you start questioning these kinds of practices, then the Phiilppines wil be better off.
Don’t stop.
I think Ramgen works at the office of Senator Revilla so it goes his PA too
Often, when I was still in government’s office. I find that even their household helps are listed in their rooster of government employees. Whenever one elected official want to have a help but not to take full financial responsibility, the name of the recepient will always appear in the government payroll.
If it’s true that the PA (Ronaldo Angcajas) is a paid ‘staffer’ of Bong, that actually reinforces the claim that Bong and Ramgen were extremely close.
This is a very common practice among unscrupulous politicians. Apart from including their relatives as their staff, they also include drivers, maids and alalays even if they have nothing to do with the politicians’ work. On top of that, they give those unrelated workers lower salaries than they disclose and pocket the rest.
Who pays for those? Us taxpayers. It’s frustrating how most Filipinos find that normal (even acceptable), instead of correctly thinking that it is stealing.
MONEY is the major ROOT of all evil. having read your article… i may have some doubt then whether only the siblings of Genelyn did such or she might also be involve which meant premeditated murder. killing sibling is not new, I’ve read and seen tv real cases that involves family feud over money/greed. I’m not an avid fan of Sen. Bong, he have been to a lot of pressure in life may it be politics/as an actor or whatever controversies so having feud within family he can cope and also if it meant feud due to “mana” he can produce it (prominent actor) but if his that greed to aim for Father’s “mana” knowing he have a lot of competitors? and take the risk of killing other siblings for what? he have everything to loss if he did such. while Genelyn? posting old pic to get others affection and proof her closeness to the Sr months before the death may tickle ones mind of asking “what’s the catch?” Guilt does start early when the a big plan/s will soon be initiated. involving Sen Bong in her so called cry of justice? may meant “change the topic please” so her role may fade from such crime. what upset more is publicly showing affection to God (sign of guilt), praying for other souls, hope she’s sincere to such words and not plainly using God’s name to benefit herself to be called “religious” and not fit to be called evil. i may not be surprise if her siblings rivalry may end up with such if she end up nagging to aggravate the facts to her kids that leads to such blood end. just see her FB post how it entails “finances” how much more in close door where kids being nag on what they loss and that their luxurious life may end? HMMmm MONEY = GREED = CRIME. justice should be serve. the question is whose involve. first suspects may always be within family, when cleared then seek from outside… innocent one don’t need to pin point/ blame others but stood on the real facts. if i get involve to such and i knew i did nothing wrong? i wont run and hide nor blame others instead clear my name. there are millions of excuses not to face justice especially if guilty, but the real facts can always clear everyone’s mind. thanks for such data…
With due respect, the issue here is whether the revilla siblings have something to do with the murder and not their circus-like life. There is always time for everything, discussing things alien to the incident might just muddle the entire story.
That’ s part of the game if you are a public figure. Every loose pieces should be connected to make a conclusion.
I AGREE!!!
Can you please check on the background of Ramgen’s PA. He lists his employer as Senate of the Philippines. He looks like he works for Senator Bong. He looks like one assigned to Ramgen inorder to sneak into the the life of Genelyn’s family. In his facebook account, he looks like he just moved to the BF homes residence very recently. His actuation and eagerness to spill the beans is very suspicious. I heard he wants to be protected by Sen. Bong, but the Senator declined, probably to avoid the connection.
You’re right.
Will ask around.
I don’t want to judge any of them. But honestly, It came across my mind too. What if the PA did it….I even dreamed about it….lol.
Then, the next day, I read the news that the PA stated that he saw RJ and Ramona came out the house. Which is in the first place, he didn’t mention about it. I mean, he didn’t speak out loud (except saying that they didn’t heard any gunshot) that he saw the both of them on earlier investigation. He only said it after RJ and Ramona’s name came out. Weird.
you may want to consider the political enemies of the revillas too. siblings killing each other for money? jealousy? SEN. BONG framing his siblings? etc etc.. i think REVILLAS can do better than that.
my take on this is I THINK none of them REVILLAs are involved with this murder…
if i were BONG, with all my power, if i want all my dad’s other family gone, i can make it right away without the media knowing it. so why the hassle of framing him, him, her, her.. it will only stain my career, my own family, my life, my kid’s future, worse it can destroy my entire career.
all im saying is that, what if somebody else is playing with the REVILLAS?
Possible, too
haaayy…. it really is a jungle out there…
My exact thoughts.
oh isa pa, why bring up the issue of mara having disappointed the dad in such time? i mean as expected the dad must have been disappointed but was it really new? yes 2 of bong’s children got pregnant/impregnated someone at such a young age as well. also, during those times, i didn’t hear bong talking to the reporters so much or neither during the times his infidelities came to light. in fact, he was quiet/very elusive during those times rather than openly holding press conferences. if you truly care about your siblings, you would at least refrain from publicizing further the family problems, not be at the forefront pointing fingers. also, why did they make it appear as if genelyn had hidden her debt problems when she made such public in her fb account? it makes it appear as if she had hidden motive and the debt amassed was told by ram in betrayal of his mom’s confidence to ramon revilla when hello, based on her fb, anyone could have known that. and how classy for the pr of the revilla (meaning bong’s original immediate family) to be discussing jealousy of genelyn over her children’s expensive cars (hard-earned from their showbiz gigs i bet, as they’ve got such hot careers right now). PLUS, couldn’t it have been that ram did tell his dad, but more of to ask for help rather than to tell on his wife? which is the more likely scenario? but from mara’s actuations parang nga siyang guilty. the video she left behind didn’t help either. esp if you’re out to protect her interests, why not even cut out the part where she fumbles and has to redo her lines.
why bring up the issue of marrying at 18yo and to ask for help rather than to tell on his mother pala. oops.
dee, i think you are not yet a parent because you cannot understand why ramon revilla sr. and jr. are upset with ramona bautista when she got married at 19, when in fact they themselves married at an early age, married a woman at a very young age, and have daughters that got pregnant at a very young age too. They are upset because they know that it is something that she will regret in the end, because they themselves experienced it. If they can spare their child from experiencing the same consequences of his/her actions/decisions, they will do so. but they can only do so much.
Ang addict, kapag nalamang nag aaddict ang anak nila, magagalit pa din yun. ganoon talaga ang magulang.
Matalino na mga tao ngayon. khit saang angulo na mga pngyayari makikita mo n may mali. kahit sinong tao if there’s any wrong accusations against you, u need to do actions rather use social networking brag. in times like these actions speaks louder than words. khit mageenglish kp dyan ng bonggang b
Ano ba talaga ang punto mo?
Diretsuhin mo na.
Good honest and brave article! I hope its accurate but even on its surface value, it speaks lots. The Philippine news is usually all coverups and half truths!
This is a classic case of “The sins of the father……..” syndrome.
It’s so sickening that men like Ramon Revilla Sr leave a legacy if immorality, crap on members of his family & expect no collateral damage by his selfish actions! Ayan ang makuha niyo. Wala kayong takot sa Dios or konting kahihiyan tapos you impregnate some clueless child 9 times and then as a result your REAL children want payback.
Who suffers? The innocent children you fathered thru their under-educated mother.
Ang mga Dolphy, Pablo Cuneta, Vic Sotto, atbp. Are role models for a lot of equally immoral selfish men out there who value no one else but themselves.
It’s a scary and sad fact. However, there is real debit and credit in what we do with our lives. God will make sure there is TRUE payback! Purgatory exists and so does hell. Those that deny this truth want an easy way out of their rut instead of making real changes in their lives.
ako i found it very strange that the assistant claims the rj, mara and ramgen weren’t talking for MONTHS, when even the gf of ramgen supports mara’s claims na kumatok siya and pinapasok sya. if may feud, mara wouldn’t even have gone to the house. saka kung talagang alam ni ram na he was about to be killed, kaya nagkasa siya pag may kumatok, i mean, wouldn’t you ask for extra protection or tell the police may threat sa buhay mo. i’m just wondering why mara as pointed out by the gf didn’t call the cops or tell anyone after she fled the crime scene, unless she was sobrang in shock nga or guilty or scared to get framed. also ang galing ng timing nung assistant na tulog siya, tapos biglang gumising just to look out the window in time to see rj and mara exit the gates of the subdivision. (i mean, wouldn’t you at least have a car??? nilakad nila yong subdivision for a slow getaway!!! galing!!!) and how could rj have 200,000 to pay for a murder when money is tight nga. the 2million seems excessive but with 9 children? over a few months, easy to rack up. saka it’s unusual nga for a family of a 2nd or 3rd wife to have in-fighting. usually very strong ang bond bec may external na kaaway which are the siblings by different mothers.
Possible naman yung nasa isang bahay kayo pero hindi nag-uusap eh..I think based sa statement ni Janelle, sinabi nya na not in good terms nga daw yung mag-kakapatid..Di ba kaya nga daw nagpunta si Mara dahil sa video recording, so possible na yun ang ginawa nilang reason para makausap si Ram at makapasok sa room nya..
All I know is that Janelle is an FB friend of Ramona.
A set of questions that I haven’t seen media asking are:
1. Who were the regular residents of the house where Ramgen was killed?
2. Where does Genelyn (and other children?) live if not in that house?
Also, I don’t think there’s enough intelligent discussion about the motives behind the murder. Parang kulang yung “sibling rivalry”.
I agree. All 3 questions need to be delved into.
This piece only dealt with the strained relations between Genelyn and Sen. Bong.
that questions may already been raised within the authority, not all the facts are being exposed to protect/ to avoid other speculations. the question would entail if the NBI have taken over such case to focus on it so such expert can really dig in. i just hope the investigation is meticulously done. It is not only the family need such answer but also the public is involve since such crime needs justice.
its not only “sibling rivalry” in this case but MONEY… if this case is allowed to be publicly publish then the right question would be… What does Sr Bong wrote in his Last Will that may also be the root of such controversial death, since it looks like Sr Bong health isn’t that well enough that others may have panic for what is left in his “mana” may not be equally shared. >2million in real debt and no other means of finances? if there is, not enough to pay such. HMMmm
I think you give the authorities too much credit… didn’t the Paranaque police declare this “case closed”? How can they do that if they don’t even understand what the motive is? Was he killed out of spite? To collect life insurance? To wrest control of money? Different motives point to different suspects.
It is not only the family need such answer but also the public is involve since such crime needs justice.
Actually, the public is involved because of public safety / security reasons also. If you keep a murderer or two on the loose, then our security is threatened. They can kill again. If it were the case that they get away with murder of their own kin, then imagine what they can do to anyone else? I’d be afraid to roam the streets with this kind of killer on the loose!
…investigative reporting at its best…! Raissa’s claim of getting ‘inside Philippine politics and beyond’ has now taken us all the stage of looking “behind the beyond” as the plot thickens in this epic story of ‘Nardong Putik’ muddling the political playing field of “Alyas Pogi.”
I don’t like Senator’s Revilla’s politics nor will I ever vote for him for any government office. You are one of my favorite journalists but the commentator above is correct in pointing out all your data merely came from FB.
Yes the police now routinely treat social sites such as FB as one of their leads. Take note “just one of their leads.” A person posting something consciously about himself for public consumption is always calculated and is intended to further a certain agenda.
I believe that this article didn’t tackle the most recent developments. I am sure that you will have a different story once you have digested them and updated the Revilla saga.
Take note: Senator Bong and his family together with his mother took care of various “anak-sa-labas” most especially the murder victim. For all the senator’s faults, I actually give him credit for such endeavor. Please take into consideration the most recent updates.
I hope Senator Bong will retire from politics but I must insist that as what some commentators have mentioned here that this is not really good journalism.
Not all the data came from the FB.
I did research, too -looked at Sen. Bong Revilla’s data in http://senate.gov.ph
Also in http://www.comelec.gov.ph
Also I talked to Sr. Supt. Billy Beltran
Perhaps I neglected to mention that I have been writing about this for South China Morning Post (HK).
I merely wanted to point out here that – here is this Facebook account of Genelyn that authorities should mine for information and LEADS.
that’s all.
I’m not siding with either branch of the family tree.
This is just a rip-roaring saga of love, betrayal, hate and sex – the stuff of great tragedy.
And so I wrote about it.
Think of Oedipus Rex and Macbeth and you get the drift of what I’m saying.
Also, there is something here that Filipinos have to consider.
The crime and the scandalous revelations that proceeded from it strikes at the very core of supposedly basic Filipino family values.
We are all horrified by it – especially to think that two siblings could kill another for money. so we want to get to the very bottom of it. I mean is that THE reason for the crime?
scenario has changed because of the state of health of senior ramon, Ever heard about real siblings fighting it out over inheritance? what more if you have to share it with half siblings?
can you please get your information correctly. Ramgen was not born in 1998. He’s 23 yrs old not 13 yrs old. And one more thing, Sen Bong Revilla is not the first born son of Ramon Revilla Sr. Marlon Baustista is older than Bong Revilla.
It was a typo, ok. I know that. I’ve corrected it.
but thanks for pointing it out.
Thanks for correcting that.
Keep it coming.
Isn’t Robert Jaworksi’s wife, also Ramon Revilla’s daughter? Not sure if they are the real first family? Hirap maging pogi?!
Evelyn Bautista, the wife of Jawo, is indeed Ramon Revilla Sr.’s firstborn.
Yes.
And Sen. Bong is his second-born MALE.
Mi mistake.
Yes, they are the first real family. I know Evelyn Bautista-Jaworski’s mom is the real and legal wife of Ramon Revilla.
evelyn jaworski is the first born i think. bong is the first born with Azucena Mortel
You are a very good investigative journalist. I am a regular reader of you blog, whether I agree or not, they are very informative.
Btw, I remember way back before on TV, I think it was a show of Inday Badiday ( not sure anymore), that they interviewed the legitimate wife of Ramon Revilla Sr., with her face hidden. She was interviewed in the Women’s Correctional. If my memory serves me right, she had been in prison for a long time and she claimed that she was just framed up.
Nice investigative work and insightful analysis, Raissa. Your article synthesizes pieces of facts and provides a deeper perspective than just what the news media generally presented. Congrats!
Great article! This is more thoroughly researched than those found in mainstream news
However, I’ll just raise two minor points. First, I think Ramgen was born in 1988, not in 1998 (if he’s indeed 23).
Second, the public facebook account where we get to read her statement might not be her “main” fb account. There is another, http://www.facebook.com/genelyn.magsaysay (which, ironically, I found while searching for the public account). Except for the pictures, everything is set to private. But it also has publicly accessible messages, in the form of comments in public accounts of her political and religious affiliations.
My mistake about 1998. It’s a typo.
I’ve corrected it to 1988.
Yes. I noticed there’s another FB account set to private.
Thanks for the correction.
The account where Raissa culled the messages is Gennelyn’s main FB account. The other account was an older account. Because she lost her password to the old account, she created this new one over a year ago.
All I can say is,’thanks,Raissa, for opening my eyes to the ” other” possibilities in this case….the plot thickens. May God have mercy on the innocent! Will be following up on this through your blogs. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into research and investigative work. It should help to steer people towards selecting public officials who have high moral values, give our country a chance to grow morally.
Correction ; Ramon Revilla’s legitimate wife was not Bong’s mother but the mother of Sonny Jaworski’s wife. Kulang ang research niyo.
Hmmm.
Another skeleton in the closet.
Kalkal pa. Sigue pa.
Hindi ko pa na-establish yon.
Sori.
Neither Inquirer, nor Philipine Star nor ABS-CBN nor GMA News has said that.
So I’m still going by the version of Sen. Bong Revilla.
kudos to you miss raissa! another job well done! this is what we call responsible journalism! i’m looking forward to you future articles.
eman
well, you should have waited one or two more days before you publish your article to add the 2 million credit of the mother..
Naalala ko one time, hindi ko lang matandaan kung si Jolo o si Bryan ba yun pero isa sa anak ni Bong ang gusto tumakbo bilang konsehal ng Cavite (not sure kung saan sa Cavite) napanood ko yun dati sa ch2. Tapos nabasa ko sa isang article na si Ramgen gusto rin daw tumakbo bilang konsehal sa Bacoor. Naisip ko agad nung pagkamatay ni Ramgen na baka yun ang dahilan. Wala lang. Magandang artikulo ito.
Very interesting. I would like to follow this case until the end. Parang pelikula. Masalimoot ang plot. hmnnn???
hi,Raissa,
nice article….
Thanks.
It was very smart of you to place the dates of Genelyn’s postings and frame them with what was currently happening – true journalism at work. As we now say colloquially, bow ako sa yo, ms. Raissa. And I agree, if you set your FB profile to Public, it’s because you WANT people to know what’s happening. Besides, the person him/herself posts on his/her own wall, status, etc… No one is forcing you to post anything you don’t want revealed.
I did NOT know this angle. I’m having chills, imagining a certain conclusion in my head and thinking about who has the most to gain with this brutal incident.
Ramgen requiem – an ode to injustice, impunity, irresponsibility & ignorance
Bang , Bang
You’re dead man
Was it your bro
And sister the ho’
After she lies
Then she flies
What a way to go
The truth – we’ll never know
Bong, Bong
Stop campaigning
Your chances are undone
With 2 shots of a gun
A family of trailer trash
Murder your own for cash
We need heroes
Not clones of zeros
Wham bam, thank you mam
Your cheque’s in the post. Ram
Like father, like son
Principles – none
Ramgen is close with Bong and his kids from what I understand, barkada sila ni Jolo. His mother even took care of Ramgen for a while when Ram was still a baby. Unlike the other siblings that they only see during family events
Good job you have made in your article, well researched but I’m just wondering what the law says if Ex-Senator Revilla Sr. will have a Last Will and Testament leaving only a portion of his property to Genelyn instead of one half as required by Law. Can Genelyn contest this in the court?
I don’t know.
But this will be one for the books if it happens.
He’s not dead yet, so he can still change his mind.
The Last Will will prevail. The one prescribed by the law takes effect only if there is no will or if it can be proven that the senior was mentally incapacitated or forced against his will at the time he created his will.
You made it simple but shows creativity and solid piece of work Ms. Raissa. Galeng!!!
Very in-depth, truly investigative work…our so-called detectives should do well to learn from you! Hope you keep this up till the truth is laid bare.
It boggles my mind how a catholic nation like ours shrug at two(?)-timing husbands and even elect them to national posts… What moral example do we set before our youth????
Yes it does.
we’re a nation of fools, electing the likes of revillas, lapid, sotto, estradas
With Bong Revilla comes his manager and PR Woman – LOLIT SOLIS. I see her hands in every media brouhaha involving the senator. You can never trust anything with that woman. She is the proverbial can of worms.
Remember the Ruffa Gutierrez award brouhaha?
Can you please refresh us with that Ruffa brouhaha? It seems there is nothing out on the web about it. Lolit used to manage Genelyn remember?
Really?
about the murder, i really hope people will think objectively.
now about Ms Genelyn, serves you right for having a relationship with a married man.
kaya ka ba nag-anak ng marami to ensure you have enough allotments? ginawa mo rin yan. you should have thought about worst case scenarios(like what if you had to feed them alone???)
ibang klase talaga mga other women.
If the mother says her children are innocent, let’s take it at its face value. She may be right, who knows? Let us look at other angle. Sa P’nas kapag nangutang ka at di ka nagbayad papatayin/ipapapatay ka ng inutangan mo.
“Ako na lang ang gantihan nyo wag mga anak ko,” Genelyn blurted in one of her videos.
Food for thoughts.
Yes, indeed.
Congrats, nice one, just wondering How can d revilla afford 1 million pesosssess monthly allowance to genelyn masaysay and to d rest of the other womans children??? Hindi ba nauubos pera nila.!! Or shalll i say hindi pa ubos ang pera ng pilipinas….. Kapal ng mukha nila,
I’m also wondering.
And should the country’s voters continue to tolerate this kind of thing?
I think sa real estate yan. Lupa nina Sen. Revilla Sr. yung SM Bacoor. 90 million a year ata nakukuha nila dun. Tapos yung Imus Cockpit, Casino Filipino, even SSS Bacoor nasa lupa nila. Half ata ng Bacoor, tapos malaking portion ng Imus, sa kanila din.
Nabasa ko din to sa Inquirer last week. Revilla Sr. owns the lot where SM bacoor stood. plus they have memorial parks pa. dalawa ata yon yung isa dun yun yung memorial park na pinaglibingan ni Ramgen. pati cockpit arena. sabi pa dun sa inquirer they own almost half of cavite nga daw e. saka yung imus production kahit konti nalang yung naproproduce na film like nung kay Bong lang na pang MMFF lang e may royalty parin sila dun sa mga remake like tiyagong chenes, alamat ng chenes etc etc. remember niremake ng ABSCBN yung mga films ni revilla sr.
they’re billionaries siguro.
Congratulations Raissa! Nice article very interesting ♥
Thank, Imelda.
Appreciate your reading.
Please post Genelyn’s entry last Oct 21 — “if you love your 9 younger siblings..”
This entry caught my attention while I was reading her FB account..
I didn’t? I’ll see.
Interesting….Keep on sharing…thanks
Thanks, too, for reading. Keep in touch..
Interesting……Keep on sharing….thanks
You are one brave woman, you are one of a kind. Nice read, full of substance.
Thank you.
Not brave.
Just curious.
not curious. tsimosa na may pagpapahalaga sa buhay ng may buhay!
Interesting saga of the Revilla clan!thanks raissa for your journal info cant wait next family drama of the Revillas!
I dont know where the Revillas are getting their money. They are not that rich before they entered politics.How can you maintain two households and several kids studying in good schools.
The Bible tells us that the future generations will pay for the sins of this generation. Basically, our children will reap what we sow. However, if we try not to repeat the mistakes of the father then we will be saved.kaso sa case ng mga Revilla the examples they have set(having kids out of wedlock) and marrying young(not that its bad) is being followed by the kids.
Box office movies?
Or Moolah Boxes from DPWH & PEA?
reply ko dun sa past comment.
“Nabasa ko din to sa Inquirer last week. Revilla Sr. owns the lot where SM bacoor stood. plus they have memorial parks pa. dalawa ata yon yung isa dun yun yung memorial park na pinaglibingan ni Ramgen. pati cockpit arena. sabi pa dun sa inquirer they own almost half of cavite nga daw e. saka yung imus production kahit konti nalang yung naproproduce na film like nung kay Bong lang na pang MMFF lang e may royalty parin sila dun sa mga remake like tiyagong chenes, alamat ng chenes etc etc. remember niremake ng ABSCBN yung mga films ni revilla sr.”
Your thoughts and updates would be great in light of ABS-CBN’s report on Genelyn’s alleged P2.3M credit card debt:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/nation/metro-manila/11/07/11/ramgen-told-dad-about-moms-alleged-p2m-debt
Apparently the full sisters of Bong hold the purse strings. It’s interesting how ABS-CBN got hold of the photocopies of those checks. No bank would have released them. I’ll leave it to the journalist to draw the conclusions.
I’ll see what I can do.
Thru Lolit Solis? LOL.
wow, this is certainly a new angle. congrats po.
I wonder how the case is closed since the evidence is not that strong. Ang hirap sa atin pag wala ka sa pwesto at itinuro ka dadamputin ka na lang kahit walang warrant of arrest.
Ang dami ng case na ang itinuturo yung mga dating politician and mastermind may hinuli ba?
Nakakalungkot isipin di man lang binigyan ng pagkakataon sa kanilang pag dadalamhati… Buti na lang may reporter pang tulad mo. Saludo kami sa iyo, Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
But you know, the outcome to all these may still shock us.
Bad omen:
Scorn woman
Unemployed
Living by allowance
Disabled benefactor
Growing c
pls watch ur back…..its good people as u give the hope the Philippines have….there to many dogs in Philippines who bring all down
I’ll try.
insightful! hope investigators follow the lead. congrats, raissa.
I think they are now.
The police chief of Paranaque said yesterday they are looking at Genelyn’s Facebook account for clues.
I agree with Mark Anthony Bolivar Andrade. May naaamoy din ako na hindi maganda sa ginagawa ni Bong Revilla. Parang kinasangkapan lang niya si Ramona para pagtakpan ang isang mas malaking eskandalo sa gumugulo at lalong nagpapasikot-sikot na drama na ito sa ating lipunan ngayon.
Arrows may be pointing now at Ramona and RamJoseph but maybe we should turn those arrows also on the other side.
My friend suspected something when he said that he was very curious at how Bong Revilla was at the forefront of all of this as if trying to defend himself instead of defending his siblings.
Something smells and me really hope it won’t stink badly. It may affect Panday 2 and the political plans in 2016!
huwag sana kayo magkasipon para maamoy ninyo ng husto! nakaka cancer ng ilong ang macyadong pagiging nosy!
Bong Revilla may/may not be involve directly… the fact that his planning for 2016 may also lead others to think he grab such opportunity to be known seeker for “justice” so he will be recognized as Hero if he is able to put his relative in Jail for true justice… or … he is plainly concern of such controversy to clear that not all revilla’s are criminals…
before my thoughts of guilt only involve the siblings: ramona & RJ but due to above evidence i may say Genelyn Magsaysay may also be involve… For Bong Revilla? am still looking for facts if he is directly involve to such crime or just an opportunist for 2016 pogi points/ concern individual… HMmmm
very interesting..tnx
Thanks, too, for reading.
This is interesting but obviously written by a “you-at-home” journalist. A real journalist is objective and impartial, the “you-at-work” one. Oh, I forgot, this is a blog.
Yeah. SO SORRY.
I’m just a “you-at-home” journalist who wrote the following below last Sunday for South China Morning Post (HK) –
http://www.scmp.com/portal/site/SCMP/menuitem.2c913216495213d5df646910cba0a0a0/?vgnextoid=32306b9c5b373310VgnVCM100000360a0a0aRCRD&vgnextfmt=teaser&ss=Asia+World&s=idx_News
Murder victim’s sister flees to HK
PHILIPPINES
Raissa Robles in Manila
Nov 06, 2011
The daughter of a prominent Philippine politician suspected in the murder of her brother has fled the country on a Hong Kong-bound flight.
Ramona Revilla’s departure was the latest twist since the murder last Friday of 23-year-old Ramgen Revilla, the son of former senator Ramon Revilla Snr – patriarch of the famous politics and showbiz clan.
Ramgen was shot once and stabbed 15 times in his home. His girlfriend, actress Janelle Manahan, was shot but survived and is in hospital.
Ramona Revilla, 22, a principal suspect in the murder, boarded a Cathay Pacific (SEHK: 0293) flight on Friday night, though it was not known if Hong Kong was her final destination or if she caught a connecting flight elsewhere. She is married to a Turkish national.
Immigration authorities cleared her for boarding. An unidentified man wearing an airport terminal access card was seen escorting her.
Lawyer Dennis Manzanal told local ABS-CBN News online she was trying to escape the “media, not from justice”.
Billy Beltran, chief of police in the Manila suburb of Paranaque City, said that while she was listed among the seven suspects involved in the murder, she was still free to leave the country since “there are no formal charges filed against her”.
Asked if Hong Kong authorities had been alerted, Beltran said, “the investigation is still on the level of the Paranaque police station”, and added: “We are not seeking the help of Hong Kong police.”
Ramona’s brother Ramon Joseph, 18, is also among the suspects. Senator Ramon “Bong” Revilla, the victim’s half-brother, said Ramona’s flight was “a sign of guilt that she has knowledge and direct participation in the commission of the crime.”
Ramona admitted during a television interview she had lied to police after the crime. She initially told the police she had been abducted by the gunmen, but said on Friday she drove away herself. She said she had lied because she was ashamed about leaving her brother and his girlfriend.
Yeah.
SO SORRY.
I’m just a “you-at-home” journalist who filed for South China Morning Post last Sunday the following story below:
http://www.scmp.com/portal/site/SCMP/menuitem.2c913216495213d5df646910cba0a0a0/?vgnextoid=32306b9c5b373310VgnVCM100000360a0a0aRCRD&vgnextfmt=teaser&ss=Asia+World&s=idx_News
Murder victim’s sister flees to HK
PHILIPPINES
Raissa Robles in Manila
Nov 06, 2011
The daughter of a prominent Philippine politician suspected in the murder of her brother has fled the country on a Hong Kong-bound flight.
Ramona Revilla’s departure was the latest twist since the murder last Friday of 23-year-old Ramgen Revilla, the son of former senator Ramon Revilla Snr – patriarch of the famous politics and showbiz clan.
Ramgen was shot once and stabbed 15 times in his home. His girlfriend, actress Janelle Manahan, was shot but survived and is in hospital.
Ramona Revilla, 22, a principal suspect in the murder, boarded a Cathay Pacific (SEHK: 0293) flight on Friday night, though it was not known if Hong Kong was her final destination or if she caught a connecting flight elsewhere. She is married to a Turkish national.
Immigration authorities cleared her for boarding. An unidentified man wearing an airport terminal access card was seen escorting her.
Lawyer Dennis Manzanal told local ABS-CBN News online she was trying to escape the “media, not from justice”.
Billy Beltran, chief of police in the Manila suburb of Paranaque City, said that while she was listed among the seven suspects involved in the murder, she was still free to leave the country since “there are no formal charges filed against her”.
Asked if Hong Kong authorities had been alerted, Beltran said, “the investigation is still on the level of the Paranaque police station”, and added: “We are not seeking the help of Hong Kong police.”
Ramona’s brother Ramon Joseph, 18, is also among the suspects. Senator Ramon “Bong” Revilla, the victim’s half-brother, said Ramona’s flight was “a sign of guilt that she has knowledge and direct participation in the commission of the crime.”
Ramona admitted during a television interview she had lied to police after the crime. She initially told the police she had been abducted by the gunmen, but said on Friday she drove away herself. She said she had lied because she was ashamed about leaving her brother and his girlfriend.
Dear writer,
Ipaliwanag mo nga sakin kung bakit paiba-iba ng istorya si Ramona????
Frankly, I don’t know.
But if you saw the videos she pre-taped and left for ABS-CBN, it was like she was reading from a script.
Let’s wait. This is still unfolding.
I’m just going by what is already out there.
“But if that [October 21 'consecration'] was a marriage, then Genelyn gets half her husband’s fortune.” This is completely wrong. My analysis here: http://philippinelaw.info/blog/2011/11/will-genelyn-magsaysay-get-one-half-of-ramon-revilla-sr-s-properties/
I appreciate your expertise and I agree with you.
What I meant was – the fortune that Sen. Ramon Revilla amassed AFTER the first wife died. Between 1998 to the present.
Wouldn’t she get half of that?
But you pointed out an interesting thing – if the fortune had already been distributed after the first wife died.
I don’t know.
But who is the first wife? Is she dead?
I used to think the first wife was Azucena. Now I’m not so sure since some commenters claim Azucena was also a mistress.
I still have to check.
ask Robert Jaworski.., for answers?????
Based on the “researches” you presented, there are a lot more logical conclusions to come up with that I think you missed out, like:
1. What’s the definition of a common law wife? Does Genelyn Magsaysay fall under this category considering that she’s not the only woman that Revilla Sr. has been spending time with? She may be ONE OF THE MANY woman who bore his children, but she can’t prove she’s now the one and only wife who he comes home to. There’s no proof “exclusivity.”
2. Is it still right for her to claim “allowances” and support from the father of her children for their children who are over 18 years of age and are married?
3. Bong Revilla, yes, is a legitimate child. Does his being a legitimate child the only reason he has “luxurious cars and houses” as Genelyn claimed? I think the Revilla Jr. is earning a decent money on his own, including his wife and children who are in show business. Every year, he has an entry movie at the film festival that usually hits the box office, of which he co-produces too.
As I read your “investigative journalism” piece, I think what you are trying to insinuate is that the legitimate family is the brain behind the killing of Ramgen and the “frame-up” of his 2 siblings because of these things:
1. Genelyn is now the common law wife.
2. Genelyn has been consecrated with Revilla Sr. which you said is equivalent to a Catholic marriage (I don’t know where you get this). I think in the Philippines, you are considered married if you have records in the NSO, irregardless whether you get married in a cave, celebrated by a Shaman Priest.
3. With these you concluded that Genelyn may be entitled to half of the fortune of Revilla Sr.
But to be UNBIASED, I think you, again, forgot to point out the following that might make the above assumptions false:
If the legitimate family doesn’t want Genelyn to get half of Revilla Sr.’s fortune, there’s no logical reason for them to kill Genelyn’s first born. What for? The person that they should kill first is Genelyn, not the children.
Just laying down some of the points you missed.
I’m sure I missed many more points.
I merely wanted to raise some points that the authorities were not looking at.
Look, the truth is sitting there in a corner, waiting to be unveiled. We are merely seeing bits and pieces of it.
All I’m saying is that the Facebook postings of Genelyn peel away another hidden corner of the truth. That’s all.
“All I’m saying is that the Facebook postings of Genelyn peel away another hidden corner of the truth.”
Huh? What truth did she peel? You didn’t mention it in your article. I didn’t read it. If I did, I wouldn’t be commenting here.
If you want to raise points that the authorities were not looking at, you should as a self-proclaimed JOURNALIST, present the other angles, too. Because if not, it is as if you’re siding on what Genelyn believes in.
With that, your intention in writing the article is clear: you are insinuating that Bong Revilla or his family is behind the killing. You didn’t say it out loud, but that’s the premise you are trying to lay. And with you not presenting the other side of the coin (the what if the killers are indeed RJ and Ramona), your piece is BIASED.
I have nothing against the angle you are presenting. But as a self-proclaimed JOURNALIST, you should also present the other angle that the FB messages show, like, Genelyn may also be part of the conspiracy to kill his son, or that Ramona may not really be involved in the killing and is just protecting her brother, or that even if Genelyn isn’t directly involved in the killing, her whines and tirades may have fueled more the rift between or amongst siblings. By omitting or “forgetting” or inadvertently “missing” these points make this piece an opinionated article, very BIASED for siding on one party.
Yes, true.
I’m a self-proclaimed journalist.
Meaning, that’s what I do almost every hour of my waking day.
Self-proclaim myself as a journalist.
Dig out facts, opinions, from all sides.
I’m not a paid hack, nor a publicist nor a PR nor a talent manager.
Just a self-proclaimed journalist.
Guilty, your honor.
“Yes, true.”
True that you’re also BIASED?
There’s no wrong with being a self-proclaimed journalist, that’s not my point, and you are leading my statements to a different direction. My point is, you as a self-proclaimed journalist should know the difference between an OBJECTIVE piece vs. a BIASED piece, and in this case, your piece is obviously BIASED. Take the case of this article from GMA: http://www.gmanews.tv/story/237973/technology/genelyns-life-is-an-open-facebook
All the facts are presented there OBJECTIVELY, for the readers to digest. There are no statement that INSINUATE or leading to a certain conclusion. All opinions are left for the readers to make.
A journalist, self-proclaimed or not, should RE-WRITE his or her piece if after careful reading and comments from disinterested parties, his or her article has been found to have even just a drop of PREJUDICE or BIAS.
Shouldn’t you think it’s time to rewrite some portions of your piece to make it more objective?
LOL.
You must have noticed that the GMA News was a takeoff from my exclusive piece. Para meron din sila.
LOL.
And why do you wish so much to censor me? To make me rewrite portions of my piece?
Write your own piece.
LOL.
Who says the contents of this piece is exclusive? Or are you forgetting that Genelyn’s FB had been public for weeks?
You are giving yourself too much credit.
LOL.
“You must have noticed that the GMA News was a takeoff from my exclusive piece. Para meron din sila.”
Huh? Really. LOL.
Yan ang tinatawag na “tigas ng mukha.”
LOL.
Did you notice she clammed up?
I totally agree, Michelle! All my sentiments, exactly. While I was reading this, I was wondering what the point was exactly, and how they could call this piece credible. I mean, it’s just a mix of fb postings, assumptions and insunuations.
And at the end, I also came to reliaze that Genelyn may have been on it too. The murder is really pre-meditated. She began with whining in FB, posting old pictures with the intention of misleading people to believe what a happy family they are and how the Sr doted on them. If ever, the FB account of Genelyn may point to her guilt rather than her children’s innocence.
Oh, pleaaase.
Would you rather know or not know all angles to the murder?
Be frank.
wag nyo basahin ganun lang un!!!kahit nga mga reporters sa tv biased din eh,mas marami puro hearsay lang din inde facts!!gawa din kau blog nyo para basahin din nmin!!eheheheh!!
I so agree with you Michelle! Why does Raissa have to insinuate that Sen. Bong has got to do with the crime? Im not defending Sen. Bong, I didnt vote for him and never will. I just dont like the way Raissa has written this article alluding the senator to this crime.
Give me time to explain. I’m waiting for evidence to unfold – either way. all I’m saying is, you cannot discount anything at all at this point of the investigation.
HOW COULD SEN.BONG REVILLA CLAIM THAT GENELYN’S POSTING ON FB IS TO DISTRACT INVESTIGATORS WHEN SHE POSTED THOSE PICS ON SEPT30.
THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED IN OCT 2011.
IF GENELYN’S INTENT WAS TO DISTRACT INVESTIGATORS, THE FB BLOG SHOULD HAVE BEEN POSTED IN NOVEMBER.
BONG IS GOING TO BE BRANDED AS ANOTHER SUPER LIAR LIKE GMA, THE EVIL WOMAN WHO HE SUPPORTED. TRYING TO TWIST PEOPLE’S ARMS..
IS THERE ANY OTHER POLITICIAN WHO CAN COME CLEAN, BE A ROLE MODEL FOR THE YOUNG? HE CAN BE A BETTER LIAR THAN THAT..SORRY, BUT HE IS STUPID
Probably because Bong Revilla didn’t know the fb posts were made before the murder of his brother. At the time reporters were asking him what he thought of the fb posts, I doubt the senator had even seen or heard about Genelyn’s fb page.
Nice article Raissa Robles…You are fair and responsible journalist…hindi katulad ni KAREN DAVILA, na sobrang BOBA AT YABANG…Akala mo kung sino manghusga ng tao.
But Karen did raise some very valid points about Ramona.
Ramona does have so many questions to answer.
In a murder investigation, those who are present at the scene of the crime are automatically included suspects until they can prove they are not.
Investigative journalism at its best?
Source – fb!
Do you know that Philippine police routinely look at Facebook when they look for suspects?
I know that for a fact.
hanggang ngayong hindi pa nalalaman ang tunay na salarin sa pag patay kay John F Kennedy, hangang ngayong wala pang nakapagturo sa tunay na mastermind sa pagpatay kayAbraham Lincoln, Hanggang ngayon wala pang napapatunayan an mastermind sa pag patay kay Ninoy Aquin, Etc… habang ang mga tunay na kriminal ay nandyan lang palakad-lakad… baka nga ang tunay na mastermind sa pagpatay kay Ramjem ay nadyan lang palakad-lakad.. hehehe sa (SENADO)…
Hahaha! FB as a major investigative tool. I guess if I post there I own the moon and invoke the name of God most people would believe that too.
Nice reading your article, but your information is not thorough and completer. Azucena Mortel is not the first and legal wife of Ramon Revilla Sr. I couldn’t remember her name, but the surname is Soriano, from Cavite. The union bore 2 children, the first is Evelyn S. Jaworski, the wife of Robert Jaworkski – they have another daughter which is based in the US. I knew this information, because i use to stay in the house of Mr. Soriano, the brother of the first wife.
I would LOVE to know more about this.
The information I put out is based on the official pronouncements of Sen. Ramon Revilla Sr. and son Sen. Bong Revilla.
But if true, you bring up an an interesting point. Genelyn and Azucena would then be both “Other Women” under the law and their children would be treated the same way under the law.
Ang gulo.
palagay ko buhay nila un, baket kc pinakikialaman nyo? dahil ba hindi kayo ang naging common law wife kaya ganiyan na lang ang pagtuligsa nyo sa kanila? may hustisya naman, pabayaan nyo na, ng sa gayon may magawa naman cla upang mapatunayan ang may kasalanan!
everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you can’t stand it, then don’t read this blog again.
I doubt that Ramon Sr. and Genelyn Magsaysay were legally married. If that were true then the latter would have publicized it in her facebook account. She would also be demanding in allowances for her and her children from her husband rather than just whine about it online.
Their relationship falls under Article 148 of the Family Code and she can only claim up to her actual contribution to the money and properties acquired during their union. She will not be an heir to Ramon Sr.’s fortune.
My mistake. I forgot the legal wife already died in 1998 so it is possible that Genelyn and Ramon Sr.’s relationship could fall under Article 147, that is, if they lived together exclusively during the years succeeding his wife’s death.
This is also interesting. I heard that Ramon Sr. had offspring out of wedlock before he got married to Mortel. Perhaps the mother of his eldest children also claimed to be the “wife” even when she and Revilla were never legally married?
Source claims Ram Revilla told dad about mom’s alleged P2.3M credit card debts – please do add this news for your investigative journalism news.
Let’ wait for the police to confirm this.
Why not wait until someone claims this on Facebook?
Huh! So amazed with this article,you really are a clever journalist.Cant wait to show this to my hubby who is very much convinced that poor RJ and Ramona has something to do with Ram’s tragic death. Felt sorry for Genelyn.
Its really nice to see another perspective or angle of this Revilla family fiasco.
At a glance majority would probably focus on Ramona’s conflicting stories by now and points the guilty finger on her….on the other hand if she’s truely not the guilty party, the real culprit would be laughing out his/her hearts out since nobody seems to look at a different direction that the people would accept as credible enough.
Making this worst when Ramona decided to leave the country adding more damage against her case. …
Ironically some Revilla’s believe they could help find solutions in our country’s problem while they could not even take care of their family’s problem.
Internally there’s this reproductive bill problem, allocation of funds, creating jobs perhaps, a family code, a bill on the need for Divorce/annullment or otherwise minus those 2 it would be illegal to enter into another relationship similar to a husband and wife, issues on transparency perhaps so as not to question any luxurious living and go as far as lifestyle checks, morality issues …..my goodnesss and so on that it will take more than 1 presidential term to really deal with them…..
You raise very valid points, Mika,
It’s time Filipinos raise the same points.
May I echo what someone before me quoted from the bible. Everything done in darkness will come to light. We will pray with the family for the truth to come out. May God take control of the situation. Now, what you wrote should be disseminated more extensively.
Hi, Raissa…I’ve been following your blogs lately and very much impressed of your works. I’m glad you’re one of the few…Keep it up. You help enlighten the confused. May our authorities can read this blog to open their minds for other possibilities.
very interesting! i remember “meeting” Jenelyn in Nasugbo many years ago. i think it was in her sister’s resort…my friends and i couldn’t help but admire her kids–and gaganda at popogi ng mga bata. but were dismayed when we learned she was Ramon Revilla Sr.’s “other woman”. she was very pretty, so young at ang daming anak…parang nanghinayang lang kami sa kanya.
i hope the police wouldn’t bungle on this one. and please lang, wag ng tularan si Ramon Revilla Sr. at ang mga katulad nya, sa paramihan ng anak. how can you take care of 72 children? kahit super yaman ka pa…how about love, attention, nurture, etc. etc.? unfair sa mga bata!
what a wonderful plot for a movie___definitely not a bong revilla starrer.
it seems to me the posting of genelyn is not relevant to the murder, financial problem is the problem of all human being, not for revillas alone. i do believe jealossy among the siblings is the real culprit.
Ok.
Jealousy enough to kill?
Yes it can be enough (depending on the “state of mind” of the plotter), this even happened in families of the famous Romans hence the terms: Filicide or Fratricide (which is Latin…)
. My two cents…
I’m sure if you’re going to read some murder cases this can be a reason.
Just open your eyes Ms. Raissa. Just because we are seeing other angles you’re not considering JEALOUSY as one of the reasons.
You’re a good writer but obviously you’re not FAIR.
To Whom?
Thinking about what you are saying Shaiya, I do not see anything malicious in this post of Ms. Raisa. Ang ginawa lamang niya ay nag ipon ng mga impormasyon at ibinahagi nya sa mga mambabasa. Wala naman akong nakita o nabasa na nagtuturo ang manunulat nang kung sinu ang may sala. Aminado naman siya na may mga kulang pa sa mga nilahad nya. I guess hindi mo iyon naintindihan.
Sa aking palagay, mas makakabuti kung maintindihan o maunawaan ang kung anumang issue kesa magbigay agad ng haka haka.
I admit, before I read this blog I think that Mara and RJ have something to do with the murder. But reading Raissa’s blog, I think she just wants to point out here the other angle that most people are not looking into. If she writes about focusing on Mara and RJ as the primary suspects, some people will also say she’s not fair. This is just another insight. There was nothing mentioned in the blog that Mara/RJ have killed or not killed their brother. Just another lead. that’s all.
keep up the good work, Raissa!
Ahmm, the recent mall incidents that were tagged as Crime of Passion.. Which I thinks is based on Jealousy (though not bet. Siblings)…
cain and abel???
yes from the bible itself, cain and abel…so there you are….ms. raissa figure it out jealousy can destroy anything….
well, as you pointed out.. i can go both ways..
Ramona-Ramgen .. or
Bong-Ramgen
Cain and Abel, Raissa.
Jealousy enough to kill?
Definitely. This motive is as old as mankind. Revenge, greed, jealousy, hate, anger. These are all very common motives for killing.
Just go through the 7 Capital sins — these are the roots of all evil:
Pride, Anger, Lust, Envy, Greed, Avarice/Gluttony, Sloth.
Murder, adultery and thievery — they spring forth from these Capital Vices.
hi, raissa! this is my first time in your blog and i’d say I am so impressed by how thorough your ‘research’ is on this one. I hope you will continue giving update write-ups such as this on the said case.
nice work! can I share this in FB?
Sure. I will appreciate it if you share.
Thanks for reading.
I shared it na rin in one of the forums I am in
great work Raissa! Keep up the good work 
This makes Bong Revilla a hypocrite. Saying Ramona married at early age, where-in-fact two of his children had kids before the age of 18.
Parang conspiracy to. Kill Ramgen and put Genelyn’s other children in jail para masarili nung kabila yung pera ni Revilla Sr.
Baka may kinalaman din dito ang ibang Revilla.
Just my opinion.
I don’t know.
Let’s wait.
Yes, I agree. Why does he has to mention that? Besides, I just remember, before the news leaked out that Ramona left the country, the news said that she is under Bong’s custody. Well, nobody knows what really happened.
Did Bong Revilla criticize Ramona for marrying early? I don’t think so. I think it was the Ramon Sr. who was reported to have been disappointed by her marriage. But to add to this family’s sensational story, Bong got Lani Mercado pregnant and married her when she was only seventeen years old, I believe.
If you listen to what Bong said, from his tone, you would get the impression that he’s saying – Ramona, you’ve let down the family before. Not again.
Nice One. . . Anu ba si Bong, parang siya ang sobrang apektado ah..? hmmm. ^_^ can u spell something out there..? mukhang meron akong na sisinghot eh, hindi ko lang sure kung anu. Anywayz, truth will come out and justice will be served in God’s perfect time. . .
Anu ba si Bong?! para kasi sakin..si Bong kasi bilang sikat next to his father sa pamilya Revilla e ginagampanan nya yung tungkulin ng ama nya d2 sa kaso, kasi nga may sakit si Senior db. Hindi nmn xa pwedeng manahimik lang kasi mga kadugo nya ang involve, plus senator pa xa and kilalang tao nga.Sinasabi lang ginagamit sa politics mga actions nya kasi politician xa… d nmn xa nagsasalita ng against sa mga siblings nya…all he wants is umuwi si Ramona to face the issue.Db nga si RJ xa ang tinawagan agad nung ininvite xa ng mga pulis,xa rin ang kasama ni Ramona nung magbigay xang statement sa presinto.. sana lang si Genelyn intindihin nya na bilang kapatid ng namatay and ng mga akusado naiipit rin si Bong lalo na at politiko xa and hindi sa nakikisawsaw si Bong kundi tungkulin nya bilang mabuting anak kay Senior, mabuting kapatid kay Ram,RJ,Ramona, mabuting politiko at mabuting mamamayan na makialam sa mga nangyayare.
Agree with you love. It’s just funny.. Either way, people will say something.. Either good or bad.. Sen. Bong talking, affected.. Whatever you call it, for some, negative reactions.. Even digging through the Revilla Saga and all.. But bet you, if he didn’t talk or show any affection, same negative reactions would have still been raised by others. All I want in this case is for Ram to have the justice that he deserves. As much as it pains me to know that his siblings could be behind his killing, the culprits should be punished. In my opinion, we cannot blame others who think that Rj & Mara could really be the culprits. Mara changing her statements & fleeing have raised eye brows already. I believe that as an individual, when a love one is murdered, brutally murdered.. You would want justice as soon as possible. You would do everything to be of help ( especially that you are considered a witness ) you wouldn’t leave for whatever reason. You lost a brother, you might lose another one. Shouldn’t you stay here and help solve the case? Whatever it is, I pray that justice will prevail. SOON.
Bong, Ramgen, Ramona, and Rj etrc etc. are all revillas. ikaw ba pag may gumawa ng mali para sirain yung pangalan na matagal mong ipinundar hindi ka ba gagawa ng paraan para linisin yon? i cant see the point why you have to ask who bong revilla is. duh! wala kang nasinghot pare baka nasinga meron ka. nasinga mo yung utak mo!
This is my first time to comment. Usually *basa* mode lang ako, but can’t help not to say something.
@Jay… napasinga ako sa comment mo..5 thumbs up for you…nice one ^.^
@Ms. Raissa…thanks for sharing us your thoughts. Nicely done..Keep it up!
@mara- umiwi ka na dito. lol.
^____^
very impressive piece of work. you are the best example of what a “journalist” should be. on the Revilla’s, it’s sad that our people elected them to a high post in government. even Sen, Bong now is following the footsteps of his father- siring children here and there… i can only grieve for the country’s youth who are growing up seeing these very bad examples.
makes you think if the mother’s constant wailing led to her first born’s tragic death.
she wails about money woes and being called a parasite and yet she, along with her 9 children, live in a nice mansion, is able to feed her kids for more than 20 years now, has yayas drivers and security at their own disposal, her and her kids have their own cars, has tutors for her kids and they all studied in Southville International school ..makes you think how she can “make abono” when she never held a job since she was 18/19.
You have a point there.
We should not get carried away by her emotions.
Raissa… your piece is an eye opener. It seems you have pointed to the root cause. Lets watch closely as this drama unfolds. Its a delicate situation at this stage to make hypothesis on the involvement.
Meantime can you dig into the 72 children…. I have search and googled and no list come out.. 9 with Genalyn. Bong I think there are 10 of them. thats 19. Where and who are the 53.. It seems Bong is not the Eldest Male…
please use your investigative prowess to dig on this… hehe .. thanks
I’ll see.
But thanks for reading.
Hi Raissa, very intriguing twists and turns. Looking at Genelyn’s photo when she was…what? 19? Batang-bata. What immediately came to mind was the Sr. was certainly a cradle snatcher. And maybe you can find out why Genelyn fell for the Sr considering she wasn’t exactly from the poorer section of society? A Magsaysay at that?! Ano yung agimat meron si Sir? At anong katangahan naman meron si bata at pumatol siya?
I caught Jessica Soho interviewing Sir and he seemed to be proud of having sired many children…with a mischievous twinkle in his eyes and a sneer on his lips, I recall him saying something to this effect: “Lahat ng girlfriend ko kailangan anakan or inaanakan ko”. And he said this with no tinge of shame or remorse. It was as if he was bragging and playing to his audience. The matinee idol totally conscious of his showbiz-fed legend. And in another clip, where Ramona was beside him in his wheelchair holding his hand I wondered what is this man thinking? Deep in his heart, what is he feeling? Parang Dateline sa Talk TV. A real whodunnit. Life follows art.
More power to you Raissa. Very intriguing talaga. Parang type kong mag-detective. You sure got your work cut out for you. God bless you and keep you in the work you do so well.
Before this, macho men like Ramon Revilla Sr. and Erap were really idolized by the masa.
I think this will be an eye opener for them.
It all comes if the family does not teach the children family values. Family members particularly children, however, look up to the parents. So, it’s a vicious cycle, unless exemptions occur.
May kasbihan nga, “ang manga, hindi mamumunga ng bayabas”, o “ang nalaglag na bunga, hindi malalayo sa puno”.
“Cradle snatcher” is simply a euphemism for “Pedophile”.
In most developed countries this type of relationship is punishable by law. Pedophiles are found in the lowest rung of any jail’s social hierarchy, btw. Revilla Sr. is a pedophile, with his track record. Because of cultural differences (machismo culture FTW!), we are subjected to cringe-worthy dynamics of the sort that sees proud old men siring a basketball team through an undereducated, ignorant child.
It makes me sick.
this actually is the meat of all these things happening. and to think that the catholic church
gave an award to this sr. i dont know what the bishop of manila was thinking?
firstly lets remember the victims in this – 1 dead and one undergoing facial reconstruction surgery.
secondly revilla was nothing more than a corrupt dirty old man with no integrity, ethics or morals resulting in multiple dysfunctional families, the result of which is only too obvious.
p.s does he pay tax. he is not in the top 500 so i guess not.
as far as bong who is hardly the sharpest knife in the box, his chances were next to zero before this tacky saga. now they are ziltch, and his role, play acting and sudden silence also demonstrates the lack of integrity and honesty in the man/boy.
my only amazement is why people would ever vote for people devoid of intellect, passion, commitment to others and achievement.
these b rated actors just bring shame on the country and make it a laughing stock. the onlh thing i have ever seen him do is endorse products!
roll on estrada, pacquaio, kris aquino and turn it all into pinoy big brother.
You’re right.
Sa reply mo pa lang po sa comment ni Nona, halatang may galit ka na sa Revilla/Bautista clan.
thank you miss raisa for the information… this is really an eye opener.. hope that the police investigator will also see the other side of the story.. kwawa naman ang mga bata.. God bless you miss raisa… keep it up..
I was going to commend you on your article and your objectivity but it went awry with this comment… really? Nona is right?
of course i am right.
in which aspects do you consider me to be wrong.
putting the victims first
stating that revilla does not pay taxes
that having young teenagers as mistresses is not acceptable
raising 16 families and being an absentee father is a recipe for dysfunction
that politics is driven by personality not policies
politicians endorsing products is tacky
or that bong tevilla would struggle on ‘ are you smarter than a 5th grader’
True, our police force’s investigative capabilities leave a lot to be desired and the declaration that the police investigation is closed was precipitate. However, this is one case where, even to an untrained civilian, the pieces of evidence uncovered so far point to the culpability or at least the involvement of the victim’s own siblings. I hope that the public attention that the case is drawing while relentless and distressing to many would also ensure that the case proceeds just and fairly and ultimately leads to the correct conclusion.
Thank you Raissa, I am not an avid fan of reading articles like this, but it caught my attention and become interested to find out what would be the ending of this investigative journalism. Thank you and God bless you always. May God protect on all what you do.
Thank you, Jun.
i was surprised to read ur article…u have a point.. and hoping at the end of the story the true mastermind will come out.. i know there is always the other side of the story.. an eye opener for the people.. more power to.. God Bless!!
As the Bible says “theres nothing hidden or concealed that will not be exposed”.
Very interesting story…Congrats po…
Thank you.
Double standard nga. How about Bong’s own children having kids at an even earlier age?
Jolo 16
Inah 18
Really?
I didn’t know that.
it’s like father, like son, and it runs in the family, huh! not surprising
Actually, Jolo is proud of this “macho-babaero” trait, rationalizing his having girlfriends one after another (after siring a love child with Rosanna Roces’ daughter and splitting-up with her eventually) with, and I quote, “I’m a Revilla! (so it’s expected)”.
Which is really sad because apparently it’s a reasoning perpetrated by the parents.This is the next generation of actor/politicians to influence the next generation of fathers.
I have nothing against the Revillas nor anything to contribute to inculcate justice to this case but a lot of young people are tuned to this case. They are exposed to the gritty detail of this family’s tantalizing lifestyle.
Raissa, can I make a request? Please write a piece (continuously, if possible) about the importance of having a mother AND a father in the home during the growing years of children and how a father’s presence is such a strong, positive force in the future generation/society’s lives.
I have nothing against single parents but there’s just too much advertisements of solo parenting(esp. single moms) which (to me) encourage this macho-babaero image to fruition and downplays the role of the man in child-rearing. We need your kind of perspective to balance it out a bit, esp. with this case where the Revilla’s family style is inevitably highlighted.
Thanks a bunch!
wow. some piece of journalism.
will re-read and then comment.
nice work
Thank you for your incisive journalism, much appreciated. It poses the question – what is the role of Sen. Bong R. in this case?
Honestly, I don’t know.
Raissa, you are God sent! Your investigative researches are logical indeed! Please continue to inform the public about this case (Ramgen’s murder). I will follow your write ups. I already smelt something fishy here….Do not be afraid maam, God is with you…the truth shall set us free! Thank you and God bless!
Two thumbs up! A very informative and fascinating article written only by top caliber journalist like you. I am beginning to entertain the idea that Sen. Bong Revilla’s media pronouncements are the height of his hypocrisy.
You think PNoy has forgiven me for the video game question?
Great piece &Job well done!
It’s always good to hear the other side of the story.
Expecting more from a resposible journalist…
BRAVOOO for your courage!!!
Thanks, Anna.
By the way don’t lost any sleep over that video game issue….
Somebody must give a shake to the rock sometimes hehehhee!!!
Thanks to the writer, and more power to you, this is JOURNALISM–expose on the truth, not cover-up and just story, this one has a life and more to learn, your EXPOSE on this is very interesting and I will follow you from now on, GOOD JOB begins with good research and facts. YOUR THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX MAKE IT MORE EYE OPENING. GREAT JOB.
Two thumbs up! A very informative and fascinating article. I am beginning to entertain the idea that all media pronouncements made By Sen. Bong Revilla is the “height of hypocrisy”.
Not yet. Give him a chance.
This is a wonderful piece of investigative journalism. I have been following your blog the first time I stumbled on it from FB. Thanks for sharing this article to the world. God bless you Ms. Raissa!
the title caught my attention, but the content is far more interesting, may the real culprit surface soon for the sake of those innocent ones..kudos to madam writer for this article, keep digging…
Thank you for reading. Appreciate it.
Interesting read. All I can say though, is that this family is very twisted. I hope the Filipino people would think this over.
We’re Catholic, you know.
Catholics do that [ have multple wives] with a straight face? And, invokes the name of the Lord ad infinitum. Come on!
Even some Catholic priests have mistresses.
In the Philippines the priest can get the girl, and if he is really lucky the mother too. :p
In the U.S. the priest will get the boy and if he is really lucky the boy’s brother too. :p
Point taken. But that doesn’t make anything alright. What we should look into is: san galing ang pera for the support? They have been in public office for ages, 72 kids under support with such hefty allowances? Plus look at the family dynamic at large. Something is just terribly off.
kids as well..!!!!
Crime and sin are not associated to religions. Maski pa ano religion mo, magkakasala ka kung gusto mo.
Yung mga “relihiyoso-kuno” lang ang nagkakabit nang mali sa isang sekta ng relihiyon!
There’s a difference between Catholics who are non-practicing and practicing their faith. Nobody is perfect. You can say a lot of nasty things to Catholics who are non-practicing but can you even compare the kindest person of your religion to the kindest practicing Catholics? Are you born-again?
I’m a friend of RJ.. Good to know that someone is thinking differently and SANELY..
Keep it up.. I would like to share this if you don’t mind
Sure. Go ahead.
very interesting!
Well researched and written, Raissa, congratulations. The cats are out. I will follow your story about this. Cheers.
You know, Genelyn used to be my neighbor at BF and a close friend of my ex-GF. Anyway, we used to go to her house like no less than 3 times and nor more than 6 times, in 2008 onwards. Back then, she already told us that she’s no longer getting the right amount promised to her by the Revillas.
Anyway, I read your blog and let me tell you how impressed I am in your investigative journalism. So far, you’re one of the very few journalists who think out of the box, keep it up! I’m your friend in FB, hope you won’t forget to tag me. Thanks!
Thanks, Raul.
Did she and the ex-senator live together at any one time?
Nice article, already shared it with facebook world. There are always skeletons in the closets..
Thanks for reading.
Looks like the biblical story of Cain & Abel was re-enacted in a modern setting with a far more complicated situation… Wherever their story will lead at the end, I sympathise with Genilyn and her kids. Its high time Filipinos consider electing leaders with high moral values… sad to say it’s not happening
Our investigators are ill trained, poorly equipped and can easily be blundered with misleading evidence and theories. When a self confessed participant to plot the killing of RJ they immediately sounded the whistle signalling that the case will be concluded as close just because someone came up admitting his participation and at the same time pointing a finger to someone else as the mastermind. We’ve seen a lot of cases ending in someone being freed after years of imprisonment after the witnesses were found to be bogus. Wake up guys!!! In JESUS name spare your children of the shame you’re causing to our country…
A very interesting write up right here Ms. Raissa. My only concern is why publish this now? why not publish this years ago? Is it because of what happend to the eldest son of GENELYN MAGSAYSAY? bakit nataon na nailabas ang write up na ito while the murder investigation is going on? This would have been a GREAT write up if it focused on the MURDER since everyone is seeking for justice for RAMGEN REVILLA. Why include Sen. Bong Revilla and Genelyn Magsaysay’s “Life Story”? But then again, this is one heck of a write up right here(not just about Sen. Bong and Genelyn’s story but as a whole). Kudos to that.
I will continue to follow your writings and I hope you’ll focus more on the MURDER CASE for the time being instead of the personal lives of Sen. Bong and Genelyn. Their lives are too publicized already and they can seek for their own justice with regards to their wealth and emotions.
As a person with this great talent, you can help seek justice for RAMGEN by continuing to provide information about the story behind the MURDER CASE and the ongoing investigation and help us understand and put together the pieces of this puzzling circumstance. Thank you.
money…..politics? tsik tsik tsik!!!!! ano pa ba dapat asahan?
Your blog mentioned about the early women in Ramon Revilla, Sr.’s life and comments Rebecall del Rio a famous character actress doing contrabida roles in Sampaguita Pictures during the 60s where Jose Bautista from Cavite was starting his career as a matinee idel. His film monicker was Ramon Revilla. I am stating this, just to find if you have researchers to check the Tiktik Magazine between 1950 and 1964, to find out who were the women involved in a crime involving Bautista and del Rio at that time. I am from Australia and I could not possibly check old issues of the magazine from libraries here. But if you or your researcher could check with the Serial section of the National Library of the Philippines, it might provide information about other early women in the life of Bautista, aka. Revilla . Good luck! Hope to get information on what you find. Kindly send me an email. I seldom use the Internet and I am only going on a holiday in the Philippines next year.
Kasi Noelle, years ago there were no such things as websites.
I had no blog.
Years ago, we only had newspapers. We had no Facebook, no Twitter.
I only learned how to put up a website last year. And then my website crashed. So this is the new one which has only been operational around May or June this year.
I subscribed to noelle’ observation. Naka focus masyado ang item mo sa mga buhay ng tao at dahil politico at artista Ito pinagpistahan. At the right time we will condemn these persons especially during election time but for now let us be objective, cases can prosecuted effectively by solid evidence not by mere assumption and speculation.
point taken.again, i commend you f]or this write up.
Sorry,
I’m not sure if the National Library filed copies of Tiktik Magazine.
But if you can help, I’d be glad to publish what you find out.