Corona’s daughter bought California and The Fort properties 22 days of each other

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A Plaza Miranda Exclusive

By Raïssa Robles

Soon after Chief Justice Renato Corona categorically denied that he and his family owned any property in the United States, a California lawyer sent me documentary evidence showing the purchase of a house in Roseville, California by the chief magistrate’s youngest daughter, Charina.

This purchase was made 22 days before she allegedly bought a condo in McKinley Hills at the Fort.

Later I will explain why the two shoulder-to-shoulder properties transactions could have an important bearing on the ongoing impeachment trial of CJ Corona.

Yesterday, CJ Corona reacted to my article entitled - “Does Renato C. Corona have a clone living in the US?” - by issuing a blanket denial to reporters covering the justice beat.

I was particularly intrigued by the following sentence which came out in ABS-CBN News.com, which quoted CJ Corona as saying “we have no property in the US.”

And so I phoned his lawyer Tranquil Salvador to clarify what the word “We” meant. I asked Atty Salvador who was the CJ referring to when he said “we” don’t own any property. Was he referring to himself and his wife only or does “we” include his three children?

Instead of answering, Atty Salvador said he would send me CJ Corona’s original text message. He did and it said:

“Not true 101%. We have NO prop in the US. The addresses cited by Raissa Robles were the apts rented by my daughters at various times over the past 14 yrs and were therefore temp mailing addresses at those various times. The house in Bayshore, Tampa is owned by a family friend where we stay in the few times we’ve been to Tampa Fl. It’s also a mailing address.”

I thanked Atty Salvador who texted back saying, “Ok I hope it helps.”

Little did I know when I was talking to him that he had earlier said some things about me to other reporters. The Philippine Daily Inquirer quoted him in today’s issue as saying:

“The release of this story is highly suspicious because there will be no hearings and opportunities for us to confront them. The danger of releasing stories of similar nature is that these might raise suspicions, and conclusions may be drawn [against the Chief Justice].”

I would like to assure him I have no ulterior motive except the truth. And what journalist in her right mind would turn down such a scoop?

It is in this spirit that I continue to delve into the truth behind CJ Corona’s wealth. And as journalist I try to get all sides. It was for this reason that I also tried to reach one other defense lawyer, Atty Ramon Esguerra, yesterday but he did not answer. Shortly thereafter, I received a text message from his wife saying “My husband left a while back for a week-long solo quiet retreat. Thank you. Be blessed of God.”

Much earlier, I had sent a text message to Atty. Esguerra asking – Does the CJ have any assets abroad?

I received no reply.

I have also tried four times through different people to obtain an interview with CJ Corona himself. All my requests have been met by silence.

Why drag in CJ’s daughter?

It was Corona’s lawyers who introduced his youngest 33-year-old daughter Charina into the case. Charina was named as the real buyer of the McKinley Hills condo in the ritziest part of town. They said that on October 2, 2008, a Maria Charina Corona bought a unit for P6.19 million. Although the receipts for payment were made out to CJ Corona, his lawyers insisted that the chief magistrate had merely acted “in trust” for his daughter.

The lawyers also said Charina could well afford to buy the condo since she had been living abroad “for less than 10 years” now.

This morning during an interview on ANC, lawyer Karen Gimeno even upgraded Charina’s occupation to that of medical doctor. The truth is, CJ Corona’s two daughters, Carla and Charina, are both physical therapists.

Can a physical therapist raising two children and drawing salary from a hospital afford a pricey condo ON TOP OF a three-bedroom house in Roseville, California almost at the same time?

Charina’s Roseville property

On September 10, 2008 or 22 days before Charina bought a McKinley Hill unit – according to CJ Corona’s lawyers – Charina also bought a 1,337 square foot (or 122 square meter) property in Roseville. See below:

She also took out a loan of US$245,000 in order to pay the tag price of US$269,500 (equivalent to P11.5 million at 43 pesos per US$1.00). See the first page of the loan document or Deed of Trust below:

It therefore becomes a legitimate question to raise in the impeachment trial whether she could afford to have paid for both almost at the same time. And why she was buying a condo unit in The Fort when she had just invested in a home in California, payable for the next 26 years and paid a donwpayemnt of US$24,356 (P1 million) on it.

Since Charina was married to Carlos Salgado, you would assume that Roseville is their conjugal home. But it is intriguing to note that on the day Charina bought Roseville, her husband Carlos signed an “Interspousal Grant Deed” waiving all his rights to the property.

The deed turned Roseville into Charina’s “sole and separate property.”

See below:

Implications of these two properties

I’m not saying that CJ Corona gave a helping hand in the purchase of these two properties.

All I’m saying is that given these two transactions, it has become very relevant, material and pertinent to look at the money flow in CJ Corona’s dollar accounts.

First, if dollars were remitted to Manila from Charina’s California bank account before the McKinly Hill condo was bought, then that would show the money used indeed came from Charina. But if no money came in, whose money was used to buy the condo?

Second, if dollars were remitted from CJ Corona’s bank accounts in Manila to Charina’s bank account in the US before the Roseville property was bought, then that could prove to be highly suspicious.

Tomorrow, I will give an update on the cyber-sleuthing that Our Plaza Miranda did on the Bayshore and Mountain View properties that are somehow being linked to CJ Corona. My sincere thanks to Our Plaza Miranda – the growing community of Filipinos here and abroad who frequent my site to discuss, debate and share information on issues such as the impeachment trial.

In barely 24 hours, at least 10 Filipinos who had never seen nor met each other except in our Cyber Plaza Miranda had tracked down the Roseville property of Charina. They go by the handle @Baltazar, @Teri, @Sam, @Yvonne, @Tomas “Buddy” Gomez, @Johnny Lin, @Alfred, @Maxima, @Rho, @Ed and @Pogo. And thank you of course @Steve, who e-mailed me the property documents.

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  1. 477
    maddog says:

    with at least $2.4M and P80M loot in the bank, ill-gotten wealth unless proven otherwise, the probability is very high that the “dirt-cheap” roseville condo is fully paid up.

  2. 476
    PROSECUTION’S PROPAGANDIST says:

    Prosecution’s propagandist, too
    FRONTLINE
    Ninez Cacho-Olivares

    03/27/2012

    So why should Raissa Robles, blogger, come up and claim a property in the United States that belongs to the daughter of Chief Justice Renato Corona and link it to the CJ while insisting that such information is relevant to his alleged dollar account?

    Earlier, even when this blogger was aware of the fact that the two other residences in the US do not belong to the CJ, she nevertheless linked them to him, which is not only reflective of a tabloid reporting mentality but also fairly malicious, as she was obviously trying to create an entirely different impression on those properties as probably belonging to him under a dummy, then claiming that heavens, no, she is not saying that the properties belong to the CJ.

    So why bring it up then, if the properties are not in the name of the CJ?

    But that wasn’t the end of it or her. Still she claimed in an interview with the usual yellow media yesterday of the linkage between daughter Charina’s purchase of an unnamed property in the US and her purchase of the McKinley property in a space of 22 days, claiming that it would be too much for Charina to have two liabilities while stressing on the importance of the link to the CJ’s dollar deposits. Hello. Wht a gossip she is. The liabilities are not the blogger’s problem or business, for that matter but Charina’s.

    She even stressed that all these were relevant and material to the impeachment case.

    She should take up law first, because if she did, she would have known that (a) it is neither relevant to the impeachment case nor (b) is it material to the same impeachment case and (c) she is being impertinent with her claim, considering the fact that (1) the property mentioned is obviously registered in the name of the CJ’s daughter and not the CJ himself and (2) the prosecution has already rested its case.

    Then too, just who does she think she is, insisting on the CJ to clarify his statement that “we do not own any property in the United States?” with her even demnding if the “we” used by the CJ means only the CJ and his wife Cristina, or his entire family.

    And what is it to look into the properties abroad of daughter Charina, who is not the subject of the impeachment trial?

    Can Robles prove that Charina is just a dummy when the blogger herself admits that the property is in the name of Charina for her to even insinuate that she is merely a dummy for the CJ?

    Not even the prosecution team can prove that the other properties in the name of his other daughters are his — certainly not when official documents and other sale documents point to the children being the real owners.

    And what does all that she says in the blog have to do with the dollar account of the CJ?

    Robles, along with a few more journalist-bloggers are said to be conduits of past demolition jobs against the CJ.

    Raissa has also been tagged earlier by a Tribune source as being one of those who had passed on to prosecution members the PSBank account numbers and the manufactured photocopy of the dollar accounts in the name of the CJ.

    The thing is, since she is a blogger, as well as a journalist, being stringer for an Asian newspaper, if she truly has the “goods” on the CJ’s deposits and properties abroad, why does she put these out in her blog instead of coming up with a genuine journalist’s report, instead of coming up with all these innuendos in her blog, which isn’t journalism at all and worse, she is showing her partisan color in coming up with such innuendos against the CJ.

    She may not be officially a member of the prosecution team but she certainly is starting to look like one of its propagandists

  3. 475
    Lamosto says:

    Ala eh!
    Kahit linggo-linggo pala bumili, pwede!

    “Morales said Corona had only one dollar account in 2003, or a year before he was appointed Associate Justice of the Supreme Court during the time of former President and now Pampanga Representative Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
    But in 2004, Corona opened 13 more dollar accounts; additional 9 in 2005 or a total of 23 dollar accounts from 2003 to 2005 alone.
    In 2006, Corona opened additional 12 dollar accounts; 35 more in 2007; and another 14 accounts in 2008.
    So by 2008, Morales said Corona had a total of 49 dollar accounts and added another 14 accounts bringing the number to 63 in 2009.
    From 63 accounts, Morales said Corona again opened 12 dollar accounts in 2009 and six more accounts in 2010.
    “In 2011, he had 81 dollar accounts, he added one account that gives a total of 82 dollar accounts,” said the Ombudsman.”

    Spokening DOLLAR$!!!

  4. 474
    felice says:

    Raissa, mukhang talagang NAPIKON ka sa comment ko tungkol sa writing mo. Hindi ako Master of Language, pero dahil hindi ko Master, hindi ibig sabihin na hindi ako marunong kumilatis mg topnotch writing. Tulad din ng pagkain. Kahit hindi ka Chef, alam mo kung masarap o hindi ang luto Hindi ako ang journalist.” Ikaw ang journalist. Therefore, ang standards para sa iyo ay dapat ikaw ang “Master of Language.” Hindi ba? At dahil hindi ako impressed sa writing mo, naging loka-loka na ako? (Re your inclusion of “Mandaluyong” in your sarcastic reply to my comment). What is in order here is the EGO CROWN for you, rather than a crown for the lunatic that you say I am just because I gave you some pointers in your writing. Raissa, it would behoove you to take note of my criticism in order to improve your future writings. Deep in your heart, you know it’s true that your syntax, organization, etc could use some work. Anything given to the public must bear criticism and comments. Your reaction shows your lack of professionalism. You were very ANGRY and DEFENSIVE. A professional would have replied this way: “Thanks for your comments, Felice. Yes, I’m still green, but hope to get better and better with each journalistic piece.” Deep in your heart, you know I was right. I am amused to see the angry reactions to my comment: Must have hit a nerve. The nerve of truth. So, Raissa. Make sure your future articles are tight and perfectly written (yes, in professional writing, sloppiness is not allowed). As to your loyal admirer Elena Lemi’s comment: Who or what is MDS? I need to know if I have a long-lost relative I know not of. I do wonder how much time Elena and others have, constantly making comments. Would they even have time to take a shower? And most of their comments are shallow, sarcastic, useless, personal, and destructive. Lots of ego involved. In the end, all this is garbage. The only thing that matters is where we end up after death (this comment is for Christians). If you are not a believer, ignore this part. It’s healthy that we all want to search for the truth, and an open platform for discourse is rather commendable. Therefore, criticisms to your article should be an issue that can be taken for granted. Take it in stride. Take whatever value you can get from them, and don’t get all riled up. Raissa, it is not professional to reply the way you did to me. Remember that. You actually proved my comment to be true. That you are still quite green as a journalist. And I will dare say herein that, in a way, I am a Master of Language. But never purporting to be a professional such as you are. I don’t have the degree or credentials, but I have the instinctive feel for language. A journalistic and investigative piece of journalism must not include personal opinions. Stick to the facts if they are indeed facts (meaning, documented), and classfy the non-facts as mere questions. Speculation, by the way, has no place in strict journalism. That belongs to the editorial column. First, decide what your article is. Is it investigative, or is it an editorial? Review your lessons in college about journalism, and stick to the rules. Beware that you don’t acquire self importance just because you are getting hundreds of comments. The goal of a journalist is to expose the truth – the truth in its proper context. You are a mere conduit, a messenger, not the center of the issue at hand. Do write the Truth not only in its barest and obvious form, but also truth with all its delicate subtleties. If some is something is in an “alleged” stage, avoid writing it as if it’s already a fact. An “incomplete” truth is not yet truth or a fact. Not yet. Make sure you review yuor writing before publishing it to make sure it does not contain innuendos that might plant seeds in the readers’ minds. Because if that is done, it becomes propaganda, not professional journalism. Best of luck to you, Raissa. You’re going to need it. God bless us all.

    • 474.1
      Alan says:

      Sorry, Raissa’s time is too precious to waste replying to ageing pointless KSP trollettes. However I have a little time to spare: listen, judging from your tone you must be no less than the Greatest Journalist in the World, writing for Time, Newsweek and Trollweek among others. And you must also be a bestselling writer too. So what are you doing wasting your time in a site like this? Shouldn’t you be busy writing Harry Potter XXI? MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • 474.2
      techburns says:

      @felice
      Wow marunong ka palang kumilatis ng topnotch writing! Parang pagkain pala, LOL.

      Ganito na lang. Kung meron kang nakita na part ng Ariticle na twisted facts, or unclassified opinion, or questions or statements that contain inuendos, yun ang pag-usapan natin dito, kung wala naman e tumahimik ka nalang.

    • 474.3
      baby17 says:

      Ano daw??? Was? Am? Master of Language ba kamo…wehhhh di nga???

  5. 473
    Jeff O. M. says:

    @felice bulag ka ba? o nagbulag-bulagan naiintindihan mo ba’t nabasa ang titulo ng sinulat ni @ms raissa o babasahin ko pa’t ipapaintindi sa’yo, buti sana kung ang dalawang properties na’to nabili’t nabayaran sa loob ng maraming taon subali’t 22 days lang po!; pakitanong nga sa mga idolo mo kung papano nangyari ‘to. Sa palagay mo? bakit ba na-impeach ang idol mo si corona? idilat mo nga ‘yang mata mo ng mahimasmasan ka “hoy gising”.

    • 473.1
      felice says:

      Hindi ko idolo si CJ Corona. Ang mga comment ko ay tungkol sa transactions, hindi sa character ni Corona. Maraming posibilidad ang source ng pera. Hanggang matapos ang lahat, huwag tayong mag-husga.

  6. 472
    Jeff O. M. says:

    Mga kabayan worldwide at sa sambayanang Pilipinas inyong pakatandaan kung sakaling ma-acquate si cj corona sa nalalapit na paghatol ng mga senators judges siguro naman alam n’yo na rin kung sino-sinong senador ang mga nararapat ding hatulan sa 2013 eleksyon, salamat po! at mabuhay ang mga pinoy saan mang sulok ng mundo para sa pagbabago ng Pilipinas at lalo na kina raissa at cpm; blessed us all & our beloved country phils.

  7. 471
    teri says:

    Mukhang pinahack na yata ni TJ yung Placer county website, bakit hindi ako makaconnect sa website nila.

  8. 470
    ilongolaway says:

    when you posted this article, probably wala ka man lang ideya kung papano kumikita ang mga PT like her, she could earn an excess of 10 thousand dollars a month including overtime of if me double job, you are insinuating that she cannot afford it.OMG bago mo i post ang article mo magtanong tanong ka muna, siniraan mo na cla agad,if you know this fact na malaki ang kinikita ng PT sa States at ang binayad nga lang nya d2 ay 10% maski credit card nya lang pwede na nya gamitin pangbayad ng downpayment eh, well ikaw ay isang bayaran o gusto mo iimpress c Pnoy for a position, or ur just simply u wanted ur 15 mins of fame…

    • 470.1
      raissa says:

      It’s not just the Roseville property.

      You should also take the McKinley property into account.

      The REAL proof is the inward remittance of money from Charina’s very own account in the US to put a down payment and then to fully buy McKinley IN CASH.

      That’s all.

      • 470.1.1
        Rodel says:

        what’s your comment about this?

        now, im disgusted. wala palang basehan mga pinag sasabi mo dito. :) won’t be reading your blogs anymore.

        “no wonder. raissa robles graduated with honors from UP majored in IMAGINATIVE WRITING..she could be the female version of CARLO J. CAPARAS and write massacre stories for movies.” – Ed Gabito

        • 470.1.1.1
          raissa says:

          I never put a gun on anyone’s head or crossed anyone’s palm with silver just to read my blog.

          No sweat. People are free NOT to read.

          You know what, Rodel, my background on Imaginative Writing really helps me cover the Philippines and its politics because in most instances, truth is stranger than fiction.

          I don’t need to invent things. Strange things keep happening in PH.

          Recall the time a man declared a stick-up inside a plane and proceeded to rob everyone. And then he was intending to jump out with a makeshift parachute but the steward pushed him out of the plane?

          Or take the case of this man who was expelled from high school for fisticuffs. He never finished college and yet ended up getting a full-fledged psychiatrist to fall for his smashing good looks and become his wife. He poured everything into one movie which became a box office hit.

          He was a drunkard, a womanizer and all he wanted was to have a good time. But one day he decided he wanted to become president and went for it. And won. But his vices got in the way and he was kicked out of the presidency by a perfumed mob. People thought his political life was over. And yet he managed to still make a political comeback and nearly got the presidency.

          That, RODEL, is real life AND stranger than fiction.

          • 470.1.1.1.1
            Jose Maria Espiritu says:

            well, here you go, more info about the house that you questioned. given that she could earn at least USD$79k per year, you could save enough to buy properties. stop insinuating.

            http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/04/11/12/coronas-daughter-bought-%E2%80%98starter-house%E2%80%99

            and as for the wife owning the property, it’s normal in the US.

            so @teri hindi bayaran si ilongolaway. :) why did i know this site? because this particular article made abs-cbn news frontpage, while the article to destroy this by robles, was not, or i think not. but still, clearly a slap to the face.

            oh, and you wanted the placer county registry?

            http://www.placer.ca.gov/Departments/Tax/Taxes/TaxBillSearch.aspx
            http://www.placer.ca.gov/

            no one hacked it.

            abs-cbn themselves checked it for you.

            • raissa says:

              You totally forgot she bought two properties almost at the same time.

              Factor the other one in.

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                and? just because abs-cbn themselves proved your wrong, based on their article “far from luxurious” you can’t still admit you made a mistake. they clearly said only a starter home. and if you didnt read the 1st line, i think they were mentioning you as one of his critics.

                by nadia trinidad abs-cbn north america taken from http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/04/11/12/expert-charina-coronas-home-not-luxurious-property

                ROSEVILLE, California (UPDATE) – Critics of Chief Justice Renato Corona painted a picture of a luxurious house that cost millions, and suggested that it must have bought using stolen funds.

                But when we paid a visit to the house owned by the daughter of the impeached Supreme Court chief in Roseville, California, this is what we saw: a starter home in a modest neighborhood a few miles away from a Walmart store.

                i think nadia should have been more specific. the only one who made is such was, hmm. you. now if you’re gonna claim that you never did, talk to nadia trinidad. it’s on abs-cbn news, go on, its the network that has been promoting ur blogs. :)

              • raissa says:

                The article did not prove me wrong.

                I never said the US property was “luxurious”. I merely gave the purchase price of the property.

                In fact Nadia’s story confirmed my story on the US property further.

                My story was that Charina bought two properties almost at the same time. Nadia’s story did not talk about the OTHER property in McKinley.

                Sorry.

                Your chortling is premature.

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                you still dont get it do you raissa? kasasabi lang ni nadia e, uulitin ko ba?

                “Critics of Chief Justice Renato Corona painted a picture of a luxurious house that cost millions, and suggested that it must have bought using stolen funds.”

                though you claim that you didnt, actually, you did. and there wont be a rebuttal from you if you’re conscience is clean. kaso hindi e, yan guilty of that, and claiming otherwise. :) case closed.

                oh my chortling now is premature? and what’s this article? let me get something of what you said, “Since Charina was married to Carlos Salgado, you would assume that Roseville is their conjugal home. But it is intriguing to note that on the day Charina bought Roseville, her husband Carlos signed an “Interspousal Grant Deed” waiving all his rights to the property.

                The deed turned Roseville into Charina’s “sole and separate property.”

                wasn’t that speculating? when, hmm, who was that in nadia’s article, let me post it. “In Manila, amid speculation regarding this set-up, talk was rife that the Chief Justice’s daughter may have acted as a dummy for her father in owning this house.

                But signing quit claims like these, according to Reyes, is not an unusual practice in California.

                “It’s not uncommon for married couples to enter into an agreement whether formal or otherwise, that certain property would be considered separate property of one spouse instead of community property even though that property may have been acquired during the time of the marriage. That’s not uncommon at all,” Reyes said.

                you read nadia’s article right? and this is investigative journalism? when nadia clearly denounced your “claims”

                well im done. im sorry if you cant see your mistakes in this article.

              • raissa says:

                As I said, it is true that signing quit claims is not unusual and one of the reasons is in order for the other spouse NOT TO PULL DOWN THE CREDIT RATING.

                Which would mean – the husband could have a lower credit rating than Charina.

                Which would not look good.

              • carmen says:

                Hindi ba halos magkasabay/sunod binili yong Roseville at Fort. Bakit pagkatanda ko at may nabasahan ako na doon sa Fort, “single” ang estadong nakalagay kay Charina. At siyempre alam naman ni Corona na may asawa na ang anak niya at bilang Punong Mahistrado ng Korte Suprema na binigyan kuno ni Charina ng SPA para bilhin para sa kanya yong Fort, nang ginawa ang bilihan ng Fort ipalalagay niya (Corona) “married” sa titulo o/at tax declaration. Hindi ba hayagang pagsisinungaling na naman ito?

                Kaya nga hindi karapat-dapat manatili si Corona sa kanyang posisyon unang-una siyang hindi sumusunod sa mga patakaran. Dapat walang bahid-dungis sa lahat ng pagkakataon. Siya ang huwaran ng mga maling gawa. Sino pa ang susunod sa batas?

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                basahin mo article raisa, sabi mo:
                Since Charina was married to Carlos Salgado, you would assume that Roseville is their conjugal home. But it is intriguing to note that on the day Charina bought Roseville, her husband Carlos signed an “Interspousal Grant Deed” waiving all his rights to the property.

                The deed turned Roseville into Charina’s “sole and separate property.”

                sabi naman sa article ay: “In Manila, amid speculation regarding this set-up, talk was rife that the Chief Justice’s daughter may have acted as a dummy for her father in owning this house.

                But signing quit claims like these, according to Reyes, is not an unusual practice in California.

                “It’s not uncommon for married couples to enter into an agreement whether formal or otherwise, that certain property would be considered separate property of one spouse instead of community property even though that property may have been acquired during the time of the marriage. That’s not uncommon at all,” Reyes said. ”

                finally kay jiroarturo, plus elena, sabi din ni nadia sa article nya, Charina put a 10% downpayment and assumed the balance with seller-financing that would have them pay for it for the next 30 years.

                Based on this public record alone, Reyes says there is nothing remarkable about this purchase.

                and, Statistics from the US labor department shows that this occupation remains in demand and pays an annual mean wage of at least $79,000 a year or close to P3.5 million.

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                awaiting moderation. LOL. di na ako pede magpost?

                Jose Maria Espiritu says:
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                April 17, 2012 at 10:31 am

                basahin mo article raisa, sabi mo:
                Since Charina was married to Carlos Salgado, you would assume that Roseville is their conjugal home. But it is intriguing to note that on the day Charina bought Roseville, her husband Carlos signed an “Interspousal Grant Deed” waiving all his rights to the property.

                The deed turned Roseville into Charina’s “sole and separate property.”

                sabi naman sa article ay: “In Manila, amid speculation regarding this set-up, talk was rife that the Chief Justice’s daughter may have acted as a dummy for her father in owning this house.

                But signing quit claims like these, according to Reyes, is not an unusual practice in California.

                “It’s not uncommon for married couples to enter into an agreement whether formal or otherwise, that certain property would be considered separate property of one spouse instead of community property even though that property may have been acquired during the time of the marriage. That’s not uncommon at all,” Reyes said. ”

                finally kay jiroarturo, plus elena, sabi din ni nadia sa article nya, Charina put a 10% downpayment and assumed the balance with seller-financing that would have them pay for it for the next 30 years.

                Based on this public record alone, Reyes says there is nothing remarkable about this purchase.

                and, Statistics from the US labor department shows that this occupation remains in demand and pays an annual mean wage of at least $79,000 a year or close to P3.5 million.

              • raissa says:

                Yes it is not uncommon.

                What the article did not ask was – why was Salgado”s name not included as owner?

                One of the possible reasons was –

                Because he has a lower credit score than Charina. Exclusion was resorted to in order to enable Charina to borrow.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @Jose Maria Espiritu

                Ikaw ang hindi nakakaintindi. Ang tanong ko kaya ba niyang magbayad sabay saby o sunod sunod sa 2 properties. Yon isa cash yon another one 30 years with 10% down. After 2 years walang nakasulat na lien so ibig sabihin clear na sa mortgage. Saan nanggaling ang pera? Gets?

              • jorge bernas says:

                @ jose maria espirito,

                Para malaman natin kong nagsasabi nang totoo si charina corona salgado ay ipakita niya sa lahat ang resibo monthly remittances niya kong paano siya nakapagpadala nang pera kay C.J. at ipakita rin ni charina ang monthly income/paycheck niya para malaman na rin natin kong kaya ni charina na bumili nang dalawang mamahaling properties at the same time.

                Para malaman mo jose maria espirito hinding hindi makaya ni charina ang mga properties na ito at dahil sa dinawit ni thief justice nato corona ang mga anak makalusot lamang ay si T.J. na rin mismo ang nagbulgar at nagdamay nang mga anak sa kahihiyan…ha ha ha…

              • jiroarturo says:

                @jose maria Espiritu
                Nag down payment si Charina ng $27K. Tapos binarayan pa niya ang Mckinley Hills ng cash P6M o $115K. Total cash $142K. Meron bang ganoon cash si Charina? Yon bang bahay sa Roseville meron pa bang balance ang loan? Ano ba ang parcel number para ma-search ko kung fully paid na ba ang bahay?

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                basahin mo article ni nadia jiroarturo, kasasabi lang na 30years to pay e.

              • jiroarturo says:

                @ Jose Maria Espiritu , @Elena Lemi

                I will call the Recorder-Registrar today to find out when the loan was fully paid. I can get the certified copy of the document by mail after paying $6 per page.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @JiroArturo

                Thanks but I want to share the half. Where can I send you the money or when you come back home I will treat you. That’s a promise. You can get my email add from Raissa. Daming trolls kasi so better careful than you know what I mean.

              • jiroarturo says:

                @Elena Lemi

                Sa Pinas ka ba ngayon? No need to send me the money. But thanks anyway. I will try my best to get that information. If I get a copy I will post it here. I might go to the Philippines. I am buying a house in Davao City.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @JiroArturo

                Just tell me when you will come back then we meet. I will not break my promise of treating you. Am not TJ. Didn’t see you in the new link.

              • jiroarturo says:

                @Elena Lemi

                I called Placer County Recorder. The lady I talked to said that there is no reconveyance – meaning that the loan has not been paid. I also search online the documents pertaining to Charina. There is an Assignment of Deed of Trust Document 2009-0050024-00. Grantor is John Laing and Corona Maria. Grantee is Wells Fargo. It was recorded in 2009. All this searching points to loan still outstanding.
                It is possible that TJ’s money was used to buy the McKinley Hills lot. It can easily be proven if TJ dollar account can be opened.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @JiroArturo

                Thanks for the info. The trat still stands when you come home. Dead end na tayo dito.

              • jiroarturo says:

                Ang layo mo naman sa akin para i-treat mo ako. Baka magselos pa ang asawa mo. Huwag na lang. Kalimutan mo na lang. Ako naman ang nag volunteer. Nag enjoy naman ako sa ginagawa kong research.
                Sa palagay ko lang acquit si Corona. Parang lima lang ang boboto for conviction. Wala akong tiwala kay Enrile, Escudero, Villar, Marcos, Recto, Pia Cayetano, Sotto.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @JiroArturo

                Pag uwi mo sa Pinas stand talaga treat ko. No problem with me you can bring your wife pa.

              • jiroarturo says:

                @elena
                Saan ka ba sa Pinas? Saan tayo magkikita? Ako lang ang uuwi. Ano ang cellphone number mo? Eto ang email add ko: JiroArturo@yahoo.com. Email mo na lang para ma-contact kita. Bibili pa kasi ako ng sim card sa Pinas para matawagan ka. Kung meron kang FB doon mo na lang i-message. Search mo renato david sa fb. Meron akong picture doon kasama ko ang wife ko, anak at apo.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                I mean treat.

              • techburns says:

                @Jose Maria Espiritu
                You said “i think nadia should have been more specific. the only one who made is such was, hmm. you”
                ang nakasulat sa Article ni Nadia ay “CRITICS of Chief Justice Renato Corona painted a picture of a luxurious house that cost millions, and suggested that it must have bought using stolen funds.”
                “Critics” ang sabi hindi iisa. Lahat daw ng kritiko ni Corona ngayon, asan ba sa Article ni Raissa na nagsasabing LUXURIOUS yung bahay? Ang nakasaad dun ay kung magkano… Downpayment daw ay 1,000,000.00 pesos take note, downpayment lang yun ah. May 1M ka ba? Ako kasi wala nun. Teka teka, sasabihin mo eh nasa US naman eh, pangkariniwan lang sa US yun, ang kaso hindi naman puro taga US ang nagbabasa. Sa isyu ng “luxurious” nasa tumitingin lang yan, pero walang sinasabi sa article na ito na luxurious yun.

                Sa article ni Nadia ang sabi “But signing quit claims like these, according to Reyes, is not an unusual practice in California.” – Yes because Californians are not Filipinos but is it a usual practice for Filipinos in California?

                At sabi pa ““It’s not uncommon for married couples to enter into an agreement whether formal or otherwise, that certain property would be considered separate property of one spouse instead of community property even though that property may have been acquired during the time of the marriage. That’s not uncommon at all,” Reyes said. ” – Yes but is it not uncommon for married FILIPINO couples?

                Sabi mo “pinopoint ng article na ito, na meron pang ari-arian si corona sa US” well ang title ng Article na ito ay “Corona’s daughter bought California and The Fort properties 22 days of each other ”
                at sabi mo pa “pinopoint ng article ng abs-cbn, na si charina talaga may ari hindi si corona” eh ang title nung Article ay “Expert: Charina Corona’s Home Not Luxurious Property”.
                Wala namang Conflict yung dalawang article na yan dahil pareho namang nagsasabi na kay charina yung Roseville. Ang hinahanapan namin ng kasagutan e kung sino ang nagbayad? Ang pagbili ng bahay e hindi parang bibili ng kendi sa tindahan.

                sabi mo maaring si Charina naghuhulog nung sa California tapos hati silang mag-asawa sa Property sa Pilipinas. OK e di mainam kung ganon nga, pero ang tanong pa rin asan ang money trail. Sa pagkakaalam ko tapos na magprisinta ang defense para sa Mckinley property, iba na ang kasunod, at hindi nila binanggit kung paano ito binayaran ni Charina. Kaya ang presumption ko (akin lang) si TJ ang nagbayad ng McKinley at ipinangalan kay Charina.

            • techburns says:

              @Jose Maria Espiritu.
              Wala naman sanang question kung yung property lang sa US ang binili ni Charina. Hindi naman pinag-uusapan dito kung pang mahirap ba itong bahay na ito o pang mayaman. Ang punto lang ay kung magkano ba ito. kaso ayon sa depensa ni TJ, sinasabing si Charina rin ang bumili ng lupa sa McKinley na halos kasabay ng pagbili sa kanyang bahay sa US. Pinatunayan ng depensa sa pamamagitan ng SPA at Deed of Assignment na si Charina ang legal na may ari ng naturang lupa sa McKinley, pero walang ebidensya na ipinakita kung papano ito binayaran ni Charina. Lumilitaw na ang kanyang magulang ang nagbayad nito, na pinatutunayan ng mga resibo na nakapangalan sa kanila. Sa ganang akin, kung may ebendensya sila na nagpapatunay na galing kay Charina ang ipinambayad sa McKinley, sana’y inilabas na nila. At kung mapatunayan na si Charina ang nagbayad ng lupang ito, ibig sabihin magkasabay nyang binili yung dalawang property. Ngayon natin tatanungin kung may kakayahan ba siyang bayaran ito ng sabay ng walang tulong mula sa magulang nya na napakayaman. Kung hiniram pansamantala sa magulang ang pambayad sa McKinley sana’y nasa SALN ito ni Corona.
              Yan po ang mga katanungan sa maliit kong utak na sanay bigyang kasagutan ng mga kinauukulan.

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                yay, isa ka pa @techburn. pinopoint ng article na ito, na meron pang ari-arian si corona sa US. pinopoint ng article ng abs-cbn, na si charina talaga may ari hindi si corona. kailan ito pinalabas ni robles? march 26, kailan article sa abs? april 11 (yata). so kung may paratang, may tamang panahon na ilabas ang ebidensya. bakit mo huhusgahan e di pa nga tapos, wala nang kaso ang prosecution, at depensa na maglalabas. media ginamit para iparatang itong us properties, media din ang sumagot nyan, minsan mabuti din ang abs. sila ang sumira sa “critics” ni corona, as said in the very good article, by an investigative journalist nadia trinidad. walang lumilitaw dahil pinapakita mong nagdedecide ka na sa ebidensya ng prosecution. ang huling estado ng trial ay, 45 properties went down to what? 5? or 6 based on prosecutions claim. alam ko nandun pa lang bago sila mag lenten break. pero, ikaw na rin nagsabi, na si charina ang may ari, bakit ilalagay sa saln? sinabi na mismo ng kakampi nyong si sen recto, na any daughter or son over 18, the assets of whom, shouldn’t be included in the saln. and so if that’s hers, and the deed shows that its hers, what’s it to you kung san nya nakuha pambayad? kung sa us, sya lang pede bumili, baka sa pinas silang dalawa magasawa nagbayad. papaano mo nasabing yung magulang ang nagbayad? based on mere speculation? e kasasabi lang ni robles sa taas, “The REAL proof is the inward remittance of money from Charina’s very own account in the US to put a down payment and then to fully buy McKinley IN CASH” so ano ba talaga kwento nyo? bought in cash or installment? and nasan yung “real” proof na sinasabi ni robles in the first place? so malamang, tanungin mo muna si robles kung anong pangalan nakalagay sa resibo, or mga resibo (kung installment). iba iba kayo ng kwento.

              • techburns says:

                @Jose Maria Espiritu. LOL!!!!! asan ka na Dr Pill. hehehe.

              • techburns says:

                tagalog na nga di pa naintindihan, ano ba native language mo para mapa-translate natin para sa yo.

              • jiroarturo says:

                @techburns

                Parang English ang basa ko ng news. Sorry, bobo lang kasi ako.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @Jose Maria Espiritu

                Why don’t you tell us if the property in Roseville is fully paid within 2 years. Ano magic? Nawala bigla yon lien niya sa property na yan? Why don’t you answer @Jiro Arturo? To cut it short, pakita ka ng evidence & prove that Charina has the capacity to buy the 2 properties simultaneously. Simple question. Prove it!

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                basahin nyo kasi article

                Charina made a 10% downpayment and she pays the balance every month. The balance is payable in 30 years

                hindi nyo binabasa e, awaiting moderation din post ko, so sorry na lang, baka hindi ipapost ito.

              • raissa says:

                This is what you call assuming the wrong thing.

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                anyway, if you said it here about the credit rating of the husband, then MAYBE (im speculating, or you would call me assuming that) nadia would also talk about that. but it seems your hmm, how did nadia put it? ahh, your “speculation” on the properties and how she bought it only mattered. if you wish to point the credit rating, go prove it again, as you said, it’s only 1 reason, but are you sure that’s the reason? as an investigative journalist, you will try to find out, wont you? or just ask that question to the air?

                and im done here. made my point, and to the others, please read the abs-cbn article, reported by an investigative journalist.

              • raissa says:

                Nadia did not ask the question –

                Why do they do that, resort to interspousal deed transfer.

                You are avoiding the issue.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @Jose Maria Espiritu

                I had read & seen the report at abs-cbn. The report is incomplete. I had questioned you re lien on Roseville property & simultaneous purchase of another property in Mckinley, you did not answer but just go around the bush. Best way for thief justice to prove is show the IRS/ITR of Charina. No need to argue with a moron like you!

              • Mafe says:

                Kanina ka pa nagsasabi ng basahin niyo,basahin niyo. Binasa na po namin yung isinulat ni Nadia Trinidad. Kami dito sa CPM nagbabasa, hindi lang basta comment ng comment. At hindi lang kami nagbabasa, mag-aanalyze pa. At siyempre, may initiative to do online search, offer evidences, analyses backed by law, etc…

                Wala don sa article ni Nadia na nagpapatunay na mali si Raissa or ang mga CPM’ers na nagresearch. Sa tingin ko kulang pa ang research niya at siyempre ng CPM. Kaya tuloy-tuloy pa rin ang volunteerism dito.

                Dapat pa nga magpasalamat si Nadia sa blog na ito for the lead.

              • Lolo_Basyong says:

                Di ba nag-loan si Charina ng $245K? Binayad niya ang 10% sa Roseville property, tapos binayad niya ang natira para sa cash purchase (worth 6M in pesos) sa Mckinley.

              • felice says:

                Charina is not on trial. Her father is. Strictly speaking, she does not have to prove anything to anyone. If she is called to testify in court, that’s the only time she would have to say something. In the meantime, tayong mga hanggang comments lang, dahan-dahan lang. At baka maging mukhang tanga tayong lahat in the end.

            • Mafe says:

              @Jose Maria Espiritu

              Thanks for the link and for your analysis. But I stick to my own analysis, and that is an analysis that reads between, beyond and beneath the lines of the so-called “getting the facts right” in journalism.

              I’m still waiting for the answers to the relevant follow-up questions asked by Raissa and other CPM’ers. For example, is Charina in a financial capacity to buy two properties in the span of less than a month? Roseville, perhaps yes. But McKinley after 22 days? Absolutely not!

              Another question, why was there an inter-spousal agreement? The answer is not “because it is not uncommon”. The question is why. Besides in Filipino culture, it is uncommon. So why?

              And these transactions should be viewed in light of the other circumstances in the Corona family – the penchant to pass on (disguised as sale) multi-million property to the children.

            • maria e. says:

              No it’s not normal there are states that you don’t need both names in the title but when you sell the property both has to sign. It’s very rare especially in California because women are well protected should there will be divorce. Therefore Charina’s intent to the extent that she drew a document to have her husband waive his right is ????

      • 470.1.2
        felice says:

        Raissa , mas maganda yata na kung ang sinasagot mong comment ay sa wikang Tagalog, ay dapat Tagalog din ang gamitin mong wika. Yan ang diperensiya ng mga Pilipino. Kapag magaling mag-Ingles, akala nila, mas matalino o mas-class sila kaysa sa mga Pilipinong hindi ganoong magaling. Alam mo ba ang sinabi ni Jose Rizal tungkol sa mga Pilipinong hindi nagmamahal sa sariling wika? Na sila daw ay mas masahol pa sa malansang isda. Ang daming mali sa Ingles mo Raissa. Masama ang syntax, defective ang organization, sa madaling salita, hindi puedeng ipasok sa mag periodiko or magazine na Ingles tuland ng Time, Newsweek, Wall Street Journal. Por ejemplo – ano ba yung sinasabi mong “inward remittance of money”? At saka bakit may “very own” descriptions yung account ni Charina? Hindi ba bastante na sabihim na lang na “Charina’s account in the US? At yung adjective pa na “fully” (fully buy)? Redundant. Anomg ibig mong sabihin buy in CASH? You mean cold cash? Ang sa alam ko, cheke or banker’s check ang ginagamit sa karamihan ng real estate transactions. Mahina ang Ingles mo Raisa, kaya kung pede lang, mag-practice ka sa Pilipino. Okay? At sa States, pag maganda ang credit mo at nakaipon ka ng down payment, madaling bumili ng baha. Marami diyang city bus drivers lang e dalaw o tatlo and mga bahay. $269,000 for a house in California back in 2008 was mighty cheap.

        Kaya Raisa, kung gusto mong maging batikang “investigative journalist,” dpat magaling lang mag-research at magaling ka sa contect ng situasyon.

        You are still green, very green.

        Best of luck in your investigations.

        P.S. Bawal bang maging mayaman ang Chief Justice as long as it’s not from ill-gotten wealth?

        • 470.1.2.1
          raissa says:

          We are pleased to welcome a master of language.

          Pls. take a seat while we get your crown from Mandaluyong.

          • 470.1.2.1.1
            Bellissima says:

            I know Felice to be a close relative of MDS. Pagpasensiyahan mo na siya Raissa, parang may tililing….lol

        • 470.1.2.2
          duquemarino says:

          @felice @raissa

          wow @felice you are now crowned “linguistic purist”, kasama ka siguro sa orihinal na bumubuo sa Surian ng Wikang Pambansa (SWP) alinsunod sa Batas Komonwelt Blg. 184 na nilagdaan ng Pangulo ng Komonwelt, si Manuel L. Quezon noong Nobyembre 13, 1936 o kaya ay ang Linangan ng mga Wika ng Pilipinas sa panahon ni Cory Aquino noong 1987 o baka naman ng Komisyon sa Wikang Pilipino sa bisa ng Batas Republika Blg. 7104 petsa Agosto 14, 1991.

          Gayun pa man, ang pinag-uusapan natin dito ay ang sustansiya sa mga nilalaman ng nakasulat at sa akusasyon kay corona. Wag mo sanang ilihis na ang isyu dito ay tungkol sa kaso ni Corona at hindi malaking usapin ang paggamit ng iba’t-ibang wika hangga’t nauunawaan ng mga bumabasa ang nasasaad.
          sya ng

          Bigyan natin ng pokus ang usaping kinakaharap ng punong mahistrado. At ang tanging masasabi ko, sinira ni corona ang tiwala ng bayan (betrayal of public trust, an impeachable offense) kaya dapat ay bigyan siya ng kombiksyon (tama ba yung pagsa-Pilipino ko ng “conviction”?). He he he he.

        • 470.1.2.3
          Elena Lemi says:

          @felice

          Nobody is perfect even you! Why don’t you start checking your own 1st? Start with your spelling!

          • 470.1.2.3.1
            felice says:

            To Elena: Sorry, hindi ako nag spell check dahil kulang ang oras ko. Unlike you, it seems who has 24-7 time for this.

            • Elena Lemi says:

              @felice

              You were the one who first criticize with regards to the writings of Raissa. When I pointed out your misspelled words, you said I got 24/7 time for this. You, yourself can’t accept me for mentioning it then. So what do you call yourself? Perfect? Nobody in this world is! Gets!
              Why not talk about the issue at hand?

        • 470.1.2.4
          techburns says:

          @felice
          mas maganda yata kung di ka na lang nagkumento. Kung wala ka rin lang namang maayos na argumento at manglalait ka lang ng kapwa tao, malamang babalik yan sa yo ng maraming beses.
          eto basahin mo para maliwanagan ka sa mga sinasabi mo:

          http://raissarobles.com/about-us/

          at eto naman ang kwento tungkol sa yo:

          http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

          ayos ba?

          • 470.1.2.4.1
            felice says:

            To Techburn: This site is wall-to-wall full of your “panglalait sa kapwa.” Bawal ba mag-comment kung hindi kampi kay Raissa o kung hindi anti-Corona?

            • techburns says:

              @felice Unang una, sa internet ang ispeling at mga grammar ay hindi mahalaga, at kahit anong wika ang gamitin mo ang importante naiintidihan ng bumabasa.

              Pero kung yun lang mga yun ang bibigyan mo ng pansin, siguraduhin mo na perpekto ang pagkakasulat mo dahil siguradong babalik sa yo mga sinabi mo. Marami nang gumawa nyan dito pro o anti at kagaya mo ganyan din ang nangyari.

              wala ring bawal dito, kahit mga troll (see definition) pwede, kung sa ibang sites lang yan, buti kung nakita mo pa yang post mo, censored na kaagad yan.

              mismong may ari pa nang website ang tinitira mo.

              hindi ka lalaitin dito kung hindi mo inumpisahan.

    • 470.2
      teri says:

      @ilongolaway I think ikaw bayaran .

      Si Thief Corona eh bistado na ang mga kasinungalingan. Kaliwa’t kanan at patong patong na mga kasinungalingan, hindi hearsay ha, me ebidensya, sa bibig nya mismo nangggaling, on live tv!

      Ang taong pinagtatanggol sya eh mga bayaran nya.

      BTW, I called Placer county assesors office today and I inquired about the lien on the Roseville property if there is any, I was transferred to the Records department and sabi nung kausap ko, sa records nila, walang Lien information on the said property. I asked her , no mortgage lien, sabi nya eh, based on the records eh no lien reported on the property. I asked her, does it mean the loan has been fully paid? she did not answer my question directly , basta sabi nya, no lien information sa record nila.

      Kung sino me access dyan, sabi nya, you can call a title company , for a fee , they can perform a preliminary title search, at yung documents na yun ang magiging evidence kung bayad na or hindi yung loan.

      • 470.2.1
        concerned citizen says:

        very interesting is that the 240.000 usd as mortgage looks to be unpaid purchase amount of the unit and the developer/builder filed for insolvency as per: http://lansner.ocregister.com/tag/john-laing/ what opens the posibility of wheeling and dealing…..

      • 470.2.2
        Rene-Ipil says:

        @Teri

        That info means that the mortgage loan had been fully paid? Insofar as the world is concerned, the property is free fom any lien. In the realm of possibility, however, Charina might owe somebody a certain amount, the payment of which is solely between Charina and her creditor.

        Let us get a copy of the pertinent document and post it here in our Cyber Plaza Miranda.

    • 470.3
      maddog says:

      it’s irrelevant what a pt could earn anywhere in the world. only what charina earned up to that time she purchased those two properties matter. why is it that difficult for corona’s camp to show us these numbers to prove that the purchases were legit?

      ill-gotten wealth are usually hidden under other people’s name or else it would be too obvious. these people are always relatives and friends.

    • 470.4
      Elena Lemi says:

      @ilongolaway

      As you said high wages ang mga PT dyan sa US. We are not contesting about that. What we want is prove it to us that Charina is capable of buying the 2 properties simultaneiusly by showing us her IRS/ITR.
      By the way, walang bayad bayad dito kaya sa ibang blog ka pumunta. Kawawa ka naman, mukhang you needed the money too much for you to comment such an idea of yours na kalawang. Pity!

    • 470.5
      techburns says:

      @ilongolaway. when you posted your comment, probably hindi mo binasa yung article… O baka hindi mo naintindihan…Kahit title lang sana intindihin mong mabuti. Palitan mo pa ng 11 days yung 22 days.

  9. 469
    gb says:

    musta na mga katropa….excited na me sa impeacment continuation sa May… Please do not lose hope and interest… May pagasa pa…

  10. 468
    jocko says:

    So many good people post on here with very much good and factual information. Keep it up.

    Now if you would all use your talents.. with friends, relatives etc. in and outside of the Philippines to “dig” for information. We need to know where all this “MILLIONS” of piso are coming from that is lining TJ’s pockets…and start to put some “heat” on these people or companies, hopefully that may stem the flow.
    These companies like Megaworld, PAL, etc..should be brought to justice, not so? It is called “BRIBERY”

    Maybe in the future, these kinds of events won’t be happening as frequently, and “them crooks” not be so bold about it and flaunt them millions.

    Food for thought, as Easter Sunday approaches and as we celebrate the rising of our LORD and savior, so should all Filipinos, and those that are related , married, or just friends with “rise up” and be counted and take your country “back” from those who have been looting, plundering. and stealing for you so very very long….

    Example for some work and help… Someone posted a while back he had a auto listed on SALN in 2002 worth 1.2 million..(not sure the exact figure here ) But then in 2006 0r 2008 “wala wala”…. What happen to that auto ?? How was it paid? What make etc…. Surely someone here knows a relative or friend in LTO ? ?? See if that information can come to light in here for all of to see….We just need to keep hammering more AND GET MORE INFORMATION ..

    Just my thoughts on the matter.

    God Bless all and have a extra safe weekend here.

  11. 467
    baycas says:

    My comments are “now you see it, now you don’t”…

    So here goes another re-post…

    —–

    Trivial, trivial

    A SALN is a tool against graft and corruption. It makes public officers accountable.

    A lie can be two things:

    1. Lie of commission – there are wrongful entries in SALN
    2. Lie of ommission – the needed entries in SALN are lacking

    From past cases decided by the Supreme Court, SALNs were placed under a microscope to check if these lies were committed by public officers who were accused of lying. “Public office is a public trust,” the Supreme Court always said.

    Past cases also taught us that there is actually a corrective action in accomplishing SALNs. This is by way of a review undertaken by heads of offices, for example, the Chief Justice.

    There are two factors in a SALN, namely, form and substance. The corrective action, the Supreme Court said, involved only the FORMAL defects of a SALN:

    (a) Was it filed or submitted on time?
    (b) Was it filled up or accomplished completely?
    (c) Was it in proper form?

    The task of a head of office (the reviewer) is to allow correction as to the above formal defects. The filer will later comply with the requirements of the SALN law.

    Thus, the review is limited only in scope. The SUBSTANTIAL defects will not be corrected upon review because no way can the reviewer act upon a defect in the substance of the submitted SALN:

    (d) Was the SALN accomplished by the filer truthfully or not?

    The reviewer, for example, the Chief Justice, will not be able to know if a filer is lying on his SALN or not. He is powerless to further check the accuracy of the SALN entries or omissions. As long as the SALN is filed on time and filled up completely it is then placed for safe-keeping by a custodian as required by the SALN law.

    A SALN in the filing cabinet may then be brought out into the open when the public so desires or, most especially, when a filer is suspected of wrongdoing, such as this Corona Impeachment. Scrutiny of a SALN will then take place thereafter it is publicly disclosed.

    What has been extensively discussed in this blog are details of the lies of commission AND omission possibly done by the Chief Justice.

    Trivial (or just a small item to give enormous importance) as it may seem, there was one omission in the Chief Justice’s SALN that I will give emphasis in this comment. This is the fact that the Chief Justice failed to identify his “kamag-anaks” in government up to the 4th consanguinity.

    Then Vice President Noli de Castro has a certain ROMEO C. CORONA working under him.

    Mr. Romeo C. Corona turned out to be the first cousin of the Chief Justice because Renato C. Corona placed this in his 2010 SALN. Please note that this was the first time Renato disclosed this information and apparently he mistakenly placed the “Office of the President” as the workplace of Romeo.

    I am sure there are other Coronas out there that are already working in government since the Chief Justice started filing SALNs. (One should look for other Coronas out there especially the ones who may, in one way or another, be involved or embroiled in litigation.).

    Yet, the Chief Justice inexcusably neglected them as if he is not proud of his relatives being included in his SALNs. To think that they carry the same surname as the Chief Justice’s is incomprehensible to not being able to verify and know that they are blood-related.

    It is really hard to understand that this “small” information has been neglected. But what is harder to understand is that this “small” but factual thing is given extreme importance side-by-side with the many “big” lies the Chief Justice allegedly committed in his SALN.

    Most likely, there is one and only explanation to this unthinkable failure by the Chief Justice:

    It is because SALN is just a TRIVIAL THING for the Chief Justice to be meticulous about. SALN is just a form to be filled up. SALN is just a document to be reviewed by his peer then and by himself now. SALN is just a bunch of papers kept in the cabinet. Anyway, a Supreme Court Resolution made the SALN secret from the public!

    Small wonder that Corona Defense counsels are trivializing the prosecution’s evidence and the detailed handling of Renato C. Corona’s SALNs.

    It is simply because, to the Chief Justice and company, SALN as a tool against graft and corruption is just a small thing that the accountability of Renato C. Corona is likewise trivial…to merit his conviction.

    – baycas, 04.04.2012

    • 467.1
      baycas says:

      On Romeo C. Corona: I first mentioned it here…

      raissarobles.com/2012/02/06/corona-led-supreme-court-okd-jail-for-2-saln-cheats/#comment-14181

      He was already working in government when the Chief Justice was still an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court.

      I am sure there are other Coronas out there that the Chief Justice failed to identify.

  12. 466
    Jeff O. M. says:

    @techburns hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon ang mga maimpluwensya’t gahaman sa kapangyarihan ang laging panalo,alalahanin mo gaano man kaliliit ang mga pulgas ‘pag kumapit/kumagat ‘to sa malaking aso 2lad ni cj, tiyak sila ang ‘di magpapatahimik sa kanya, saan na ba ngayon ang mga maimpluwensyang nilalang no’ng nakaraang administrasyon, ‘diba nakakulong na, iba kinitil sariling buhay,iba kinuha na ni lord, kaya ‘wag pakasiguro si corona maabswel2 man s’ya sa impeachment dahil marami ‘syang kapanalig ‘do’n tiyak ko naman na sa pamamagitan ng mga pulgas na maralitang sambayanang filipino at ang opm/raissa robles at ang kabayang worldwide ay ‘di titigil upang manaig ang katarungan at ka22hanan.{Ang buhay ng mga maimpluwensya’t ganid ay parang pelikula lang ‘yan sa umpisa laging panalo subali’t sa pagwawakas nito mananaig lagi ang katotohanan at ang mga bida, mabuhay ang sambayanang pilipinas).

    • 466.1
      techburns says:

      @Jeff O. M. “Ang tanging laban ng mahihirap na mamamayan ay kung gano kalakas ang kaso na kung minsan kahit singliwanag na ng sikat ng araw ang ipinaglalaban ay natatalo pa rin.” Kaw naman jeff parang di mo naintindihan sinasabi ko. Meron bang word na PALAGI sa komento ko. ang sabi ko “KUNG MINSAN” kahit basahin mo ulit yun, 3 times ko sinabi “KUNG MINSAN”. dapat nga ang sinabi ko pa e “kadalasan”.

      Pero sang ayon ako sa mga sinabi mo. walang dapat pagtalunan, There is strength in numbers sabi nga nila. mabisang paraan ang pagsasamasama.

  13. 465
    Elena Lemi says:

    SATURDAY, MARCH 10, 2012

    An Open Letter to Sister Flory Basa

    Last night, I posted in an online Inquirer article an open letter to Sister Flory Basa, aunt of Cristina Roco Corona. Almost as soon as hit the Save button, comments poured in, and people started sharing and re-posting the letter in different blogs and sharing sites. I even found a Cebuano translation of the letter just today. Although there were a few negative reactions, majority of those who commented were very supportive. I guess a lot of people share the same sentiments as I have.

    I am sharing the letter in its original form, and some of the links to sites where it has been re-posted so you would be able to read both the good and not so good reactions.

    Dear Sister Flory,

    I almost gave up on the impeachment process. I thought it was going nowhere. The defense team was succeeding in their suppression of evidences. The prosecution was fumbling all over the place. Some Senator-Judges were openly showing their dogged resolve to literally look the other way as the impeached pretender to the position of Chief Justice trampled on the very basic tenets of integrity and honesty. Like you, I had left it to the Good Lord to do justice in His own time.

    But then your family, most especially you, came along. God indeed works in mysterious ways! The lawyers of Mr Corona and their misguided followers have done and will continue to do everything to discredit you, short of calling you a lying senile and disgruntled relative who wants more money. I saw your interview on TV, and you have that serenity about you. It is a peace of mind and soul that only true forgiveness can bring about. But you also have that resoluteness in your voice – firm, truthful and honest. You said charity made you forgive the Coronas, but truth and justice compels you to speak up and let the people confront the truth about Mr Renato Corona.

    God has not only been good to you, He has shown even more compassion to us the Filipino people. While a lot of people your age would have been beset with illnesses of both body and mind, you have been blest with good health and a mind still so sharp and lucid. It is not so for no reason, I am sure. When the battle seemed lost, you came forth like a shining star to remind us not to lose hope. God allowed you to outlive your siblings so that the truth may be proclaimed in all its brutal glory, and not in the convoluted version being peddled to us by those who seek to block our nation’s search for justice.

    Thank you for your courage in proclaiming the truth. Mr Corona might have succeeded in having his character flaws overlooked by the Judicial and Bar Council when he was planted by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo in the Supreme Court. He might have pushed his luck too far when he got his minions in the SC to legitimize his midnight appointment. I do not think he will be able to shut out the flames of truth that you now so resolutely hold in your hands. While they have everything to lose and will do anything and everything to cover up their lies, you only have your faith in God and his abiding fidelity to his promise that His justice will be supreme over all human frailties.

    If it is not too much to ask, we will be forever grateful if you will do us a great favour – please take the witness stand. Please tell this nation how this man who claims the exalted position of Chief Justice as his unalienable right has done injustice to his own kin for more than 30 years. Please tell our Senators, who have been vested by our sovereign will with power in order to protect our nation’s interest, how the same power when wielded by someone who do not have the probity, integrity and moral uprightness not to be drowned by it can abuse the same to inflict harm on the very people he is supposed to serve and protect. You, who are old and weak, you whose only weapon is the truth, can teach our power-tripping Senators a most valuable lesson in humility and fairness.

    I know it might be too much to ask from a frail, 90 year old servant of the Lord. But the stakes are too high – our future and those of the generations to come. If we allow this travesty to pass, we would have sold our souls to the devil. What are we teaching to our children? That as long as you can justify it in the rules of court, it is okay to be to be dishonest? That it is okay to do wrong as long as you can win it in court? That it is okay to do away with morals and the sense of what is right and what is wrong as long as there are good lawyers that you can pay to twist the facts and suppress the truth? Is this what we want for our country? Please say it isn’t so Sister Flory. For your family’s and for our country’s sake, please say it isn’t so.

    And before I end this rather long letter, I would like to assure you that in case you do decide to take the witness stand and if Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago dare try to scare you off with her histrionics and self-serving plaudits to her perceived superior intelligence, and God forbids that something bad happens to you, I will march on the street even if I should do it by my lonesome self, and demand that God open up the ocean and swallow the entire Senate and everyone else who have dragged this country into the dark abyss.God is with you. We are with you. All right thinking Filipinos should be with you. Let us not stay in the dark. You have the light. Lead us to our redemption as a nation. God Bless you Sister Flory.

    Sincerely,

    Den

    PLEASE PASS ON TO AS

    MANY AS YOU CAN…….

    • 465.1
      nic tolentino says:

      In our community, we proclaim a message of honesty.

      “Be honest.
      Even if others are not.
      Even others will not.
      Even if others cannot.”

      Proverbs 10:9 ” He who walks honestly walks securely.”

      May Jesus live in our hearts, forever! To God be the glory!

  14. 464
    Leona says:

    The news is that the defense team will go on a truce during the Lenten week. I thought that they don’t only have no respect for the truth but also none for the law, and now they will announce that they go on truce to make the public believe they are God-fearing bastards. 73% of the people per poll survey don’t believe them.
    What more evidence can they present? It will just add up more pack of lies from them and their client.

    They are banking the senators will acquit their client. The truth is that Karma will come to all of them. Soon if not very soon, one way or the other, here and now or hereafter.

    They must be disciples of Ms. Folly.

    Mercy or punishment to them all.

    • 464.1
      JiroArturo says:

      @Leona

      Forwarding a joke intended for the Senators in the Phil who are running for re-election and to those Pinoys who will vote in 2013.
      While walking down the street one day a Corrupt Senator(that may be redundant) was tragically hit by a car and died.
      His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.
      “Welcome to heaven,” says St. Peter. “Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we’re not sure what to do with you.”
      “No problem, just let me in,” says the Senator.
      “Well, I’d like to, but I have orders from the higher ups. What we’ll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.”
      “Really?, I’ve made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,” says the Senator.
      “I’m sorry, but we have our rules.”
      And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.
      The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course.
      In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends
      and other politicians who had worked with him.
      Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake
      his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the
      expense of the people.
      They played a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and the finest champagne.
      Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who is having a good time dancing and telling jokes.
      They are all having such a good time that before the Senator realizes it,
      it is time to go.
      Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises.
      The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens in heaven where St.
      Peter is waiting for him, “Now it’s time to visit heaven…
      So, 24 hours passed with the Senator joining a group of contented souls
      moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time
      and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.
      “Well, then, you’ve spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.”
      The Senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: “Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.”
      So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell…
      Now the doors of the elevator open and he’s in the middle of a barren
      land covered with waste and garbage.
      He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls to the ground.
      The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulders.
      “I don’t understand,” stammers the Senator. “Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there’s just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?”
      The devil smiles at him and says,
      “Yesterday we were campaigning,
      Today, you voted..”

      Vote wisely in 2013

  15. 463
    gb says:

    wag tigilan ang article na ito…. hanggat walang verdict, di tayo sigurado kung GUILTY ang ihahatol. Let us pray this holy week, THE WILL OF THE LORD BE DONE… HIS PEOPLE ARE CRYING FOR MERCY AND JUSTICE…Let us be vigilant umaasa ang defense na magsasawa tayo at manlalamig para di na pagisipan at pagusapan ang kabulastugan ni Thief Renato… Wag tayong bibitiw sa isyu na ito…

  16. 462
    Yvonne says:

    I don’t know if anyone has posted this before:

    The address 208 Saint Katherine Drive, La Canada, Flintridge, CA 91011 that appears in Charina and Carla’s public records – this property is owned by a Revocable Trust in the name of Guerrero C & M Trust. The trustees are Cesar B. Guerrero and Miriam Roco Guerrero.

    Interesting.

    • 462.1
      Elena Lemi says:

      @Yvonne

      Miriam Roco is the sister of Cristina Corona. She was the one who sold the other half of the Marikina property to Vicente.
      Lahat kapamilya!

    • 462.2
      Gigi says:

      @Yvonne

      If this is true the Corona couple must really be awash with cash.

    • 462.3
      Eddie Boy says:

      Request preliminary title report from a title company through a realtor or escrow company that will show vesting of the property. From that information, you can verify the trust registration which state it is registered. The prelim report data has been compiled by the title company and it will show chain of title, names of prior owners and the years it was transferred. it will show how the property was acquired and if there are existing liens against the property.

    • 462.4
      Gigi says:

      Balikbayan has an entry (#276 A Curious Set of Transaction) in relation to this.

  17. 461
    jun 2 says:

    Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth, for being correct, for being you.
    Never apologize for being correct, or for being years ahead of your time. If you’re right you know it, speak your mind Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the truth.

    Mahatma Gandhi

    Posted by: Time To Wake Up.

  18. 460
    jun 2 says:

    San na kaya napunta ung perang nai-widraw nung dec. 2011, parang putol ang estorya non ehh, parang nalibang ang mga manonood ng IT. kung di un sa kanila, eh, nasaan na, sa anong account num na, at anong banko na,,, kasi parang kaya biniyak un sa tatlong account, gustong labahan ehh!!! nag ka impeachment, nabulilyaso!!! san na kaya un noh????

    • 460.1
      maria e. says:

      Nag open nang bagong account same bank. Actually nakatawa kasi tinanong si Corona bakit, sabi nya I lost trust with the bank tapos doon din diniposito:)

  19. 459

    AN INSIGHT ON CORRUPTION: (Views by Filipino expatriates living in Europe)
    In most developing countries today, corruption is widespread and a PART OF EVERY DAY LIFE. Their society has learned to live with it, even considering it, fatalistically ‘bahala na”, as an integral part of their culture. Not only public or official decisions – for instance, on the AWARD OF GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS or THE AMOUNT OF TAX DUE (SALN) – are bought and sold, but very often access to a public service or the exercise of a right, such as obtaining civil documents, also has to be paid for.
    In practice, it is the ENVIRONMENT in which public servants and private actors operate that CAUSES corruption. Whether it be in Benin, Bolivia, Morocco, Pakistan or the Philippines – five countries examined in a study by the UN Development Programme – corruption IS closely linked to the ‘type” of government involved.
    The link between POLITICAL and ECONOMIC POWER can be direct. There is ‘patrimonialism’, as in Morocco, where access to political power ensures access to economic privileges. The link can be indirect too, as in the Philippines, where political power (not only in the executive and legislative branches but more recently the uncovered scandal in the PHILIPPINE JUDICIARY BRANCH, wherein a favorable decision sought by competing litigants) CAN ALSO BE BOUGHT AND SOLD..
    CIVIL ACTION and THE MEDIA can help by denouncing corruption and putting pressure on all branches of the government. But the real impediments to the fight against corruption are as much the interests of the ‘politico-administrative apparatus’ as the FATALISM and IGNORANCE of the victims, which are maintained by a “culture of fear” nurtured by those who benefit from corruption. But before one can act, IT IS NECESSARY TO BE INFORMED FIRST. That is why careful research into the incidence of corruption and its effects is so important. Only on that basis can action by civil society of that country and the INTERNATIONAL AID AGENCIES be guided for appropriate actions.
    Personally, it is my fervent wish, along with the majority of Filipino people, that Chief Justice of Supreme Court, a purveyor of corruption in the Judiciary, BE CONVICTED AT ONCE inorder that this country move forward to a new phase of genuine JUDICIAL REFORMS ADVOCATED BY THE NEW REFORMIST PRESIDENTOF THE PHILIPPINES.
    The battle cry therefore will be – “TOGETHER WE UNITE TO FIGHT THIS SOCIAL CANCER THAT MAKES THE FILIPINO PEOPLE FOREVER POOR IN THE WORLD.”.
    (Opinion expressed by Peregrino Natividad. (Cum Laude, B.A. Central Philippine University; Asian Civilization, Australian University; Public Administration, University of Amsterdam, the Netherlands)

  20. 458
    abcguy says:

    there are more important things that our government and filipino citizens needs to focus on rather than this lousy impeachment which is a political propaganda and a waste of time and resources

    • 458.1
      raissa says:

      In other words, leave the CJ alone

    • 458.2
      rojam says:

      tell that to your boss corona, he is already utilizing government time and resources to defend himself. ask him to testify so that this will shorten the proceedings. what is it that he is afraid of?

      • 458.2.1
        tagaiyam says:

        ang hiram sa marami…… tatanong…..pag sinagot at hindi nila gusto….. nagsisinungalin……. sino ang nagsampa nang kaso……? bigyan ninyo nang as much time as the prosecutors ang defense na mag salita at mag bigay nang kanilang evidences……. sinasagot lang naman nila ang mga paratang…… at pinapakita ang mga maling procedures and violations of the constitution…….. sinasagot naman nila ang paratang…… yoon nga lang ang sagot at ang mga ginagawa nilang laying the foundation….. ay ayaw nang madlang people dahil naiinip sila……. stay focused….. watch every thing not just bit and pieces……. then decisions can be made fairly. Prosecution continues to fish out for evidences that they cannot even prove…… pagtinapos ninyo na ang mga articles ay hindi napatunayan…….. sasabihin naman ninyo…… dinaya….. unfair…..

        Look at it this way….. anumang sikap nang defense to prove the complains wrong…….. kala ba ninyo papayag siPNOY na siya ay matalo…….

        • 458.2.1.1
          techburns says:

          @tagaiyam: Sa palagay mo ba papayag si corona na matalo? Kung sakaling nagkapalit ng mga abogado, si cuevas et. al. sa prosekusyon at mga tongressman sa defense, palagay mo ba may pinagtatalunan pa tayo ngayon? talsik na si Corona… Buti na lang may kaso talaga dahil kung mahina ang kaso at mahina ang abogado… sa kangkungan ka pupulutin.

          parang sa mga lokal na korte, ang mga mayayaman, ipinagtatanggol ng mamahaling abogado kung minsan bayad pa pati judge, ang mga mahihirap na pilipino ipinagtatanggol ng PAO na kung minsan ay nabibili rin. Ang tanging laban ng mahihirap na mamamayan ay kung gano kalakas ang kaso na kung minsan kahit singliwanag na ng sikat ng araw ang ipinaglalaban ay natatalo pa rin.

    • 458.3
      Rasec says:

      @abcguy, I rather want Pnoy to spend his entire 4yrs left fighting the corruption and set the stage for the next leader of our country, Philippines will survive because of us OFW who works hard and send dollars and keep the economy afloat..Remit, remit, remit, until this corrupt people,rouge SC is gone …

      • 458.3.1
        priscila sereno -reyes says:

        @rasec,agree ako sa natitirang 4 years ni Pnoy ay linisin na lang niya ang m pamahalaan at sana naman ay katulad din niya ang susunod na president as of now parang si Binay lang ang malakas na kandidato for president , may nabasa pa ako na iyong political party ni Binay at ni Bong Revilla ay mag sasama na sana bago ma qualify si Binay na candidate for president sana i audit muna siya kasi mukhang big ? din ang yaman niya.
        sana may mag invistigate na rin kay BInay para kahit malayo pa ang election ay makilala na siya .

      • 458.3.2
        vander anievas says:

        458.4
        ako rin payag jan sa reasoning mo rasec. ok na sa akin ung malinis lang ni pnoy ang lahat ng sangay ng ating gobyerno. mantakin mong mula pa kay makoy ang kabulukang ito. na pinalala ng mga nagsisunod na mga corrupt.

        • 458.3.2.1
          fredicule says:

          @vander: Tama ka sa sinabi mong nagmula pa ang corruption kay Macoy. 18 yrs. old lang ako noong ibaba ang Martial Law, 58 na ako ngayon. Naisip ko noon na kung ang pinuno ay corrupt, ano na ang matututunan ng mga susunod pang generation kundi corruption din. Hindi nagkabula ang sapantaha ko. Kaya naman noong nawala na si Macoy, nakita nating naglabasan ang mga corrupt sa govierno sa panahon ni Cory at lumala na nga nang lumala hangga ngayon.
          Ang solusyon sana ay mag- Martial Law muli pero this time, iyong leader na hindi corrupt. Pero mahirap ding magtagumpay dahil napakarami na ring corrupt sa military, baka hindi makayanang suwetuhin ng matinong leader. But I think we have to take that chance, ang military naman ay sumusunod sa pinag-uutos lalo na kung ang mga ilalagay mo ay mga bata na wala pang muwang sa corruption, napipili naman iyan. Kung ang aasahan natin ay pagbabago sa kasalukuyang sistema ng govierno, magtagumpay man ay aabutin ng maraming taon. We have a saying that desperate times call for drastic measures. Kaya noong lumutang ang tsismis na PNoy will resort to a revolutionary government, medyo natuwa ako dahil matutupad yata ang aking theory.

    • 458.4
      duquemarino says:

      @abcguy Ang babaw naman ng kaisipan mo, everything that we do in search of truth is of equal importance. We all aspire for good governance and an upright judiciary. How can you say that the impeachment process is just a political propaganda and a waste of resources, the Thief Justice is given a day in the impeachment court. Nagkataon lang na maraming nadidiskubreng incriminating issues against him na hindi nakita ng prosecution dahil sa pagtutulungan ng mamamayan and this is politics in its true sense. Here is another definition of politics, para naman malaman mo na dapat ikaw ay involved din sa process.

      “Politics is the process by which groups make decisions. Although the term is generally applied to behavior within governments, politics is observed in all human (and many non-human) group interactions, including corporate, academic, and religious institutions. In general, politics can be considered the art of navigating through tensions among multiple “I”s and the “we” to achieve collectively desired ends.”

      Sift through all of Raissa’s blogs and the comments objectively, it will help you see the light.

      • 458.4.1
        Rasec says:

        @duquemarino.. Good point man,, another meaning of politics in Tagalog,,, Ang tuluyan kilos at galaw ng mamamayan sa kanyang lipunan….

    • 458.5
      ArielD says:

      I must, with respect, disagree. True, there are a great many important things we need to attend to. Few are as important as this trial.

      We have seen with our own eyes, and heard with our own ears, how evasive and duplicitous the Chief Justice of the Philippines has been all these years. This man, more than any other, represents the ideal of JUSTICE in our nation. He is the face of our justice system; when one is wronged, and seeks redress from the courts, it is this man’s principles and integrity the one perceives in every officer of the court he may meet. I for one would feel infinitely more confident in our Judiciary and the efforts to reform it if this man did not lead it.

      We may suffer bad presidents, clueless senators, avaricious representatives; unless provoked to People Power, with time and the next election, we have an opportunity to take direct action and remove them from office. Not so with the judiciary; unless retired or ejected through constitutional or legal channels, an unfit Judge or Justice may serve for decades, time enough to irretrievably erode our society’s trust in the Law.

      With all the revelations of the trial, I remain unconvinced that the Chief Justice should not be convicted. Though the trial is still ongoing, I doubt the ability of the defense to persuade me otherwise. More than any other official in government, as his hallowed and exalted position requires, the Chief Justice of the land must be absolutely, unquestionably ABOVE SUSPICION. This man, I believe, is not.

      • 458.5.1
        Defender says:

        @ArielD

        Agree. Could not have said it better. You verbalized what I would guess a lot of us have in mind.

    • 458.6
      kabayan2020 says:

      you mean hayaan na lang naming mangurakot ng mangurakot dyan sa pwesto si Corona? d namin sya titigilan hanggat nakakapit tuko sya dyan.. mas maganda pa nga kung mag resign na lang si corona at hayaan na lang nyang palitan sya ng mas deserving sa position nya. it doesn’t make sense na mag stay pa sya dyan dahil gumugulo lang lalo ang Pilipinas. nagtataka ako sa mga katulad nya masyadong greedy, at the end of your life, 4×8 ft lang naman kailangan mong lupa para mamahinga, bakit sobrang dami? sa sobrang kasakiman, napakapangit na legacy ang maiiwan nya sa mga kamag anak nya..

    • 458.7
      Ella Tovara says:

      I beg to disagree with you. Pnoy actually has a good strategy … start with the supreme court because every charge for the past administration will be brought to the supreme court and if it is a court full of corrupt justices and headed by a midnight appointee … then all these cases will be a waste of money, time and effort … so the best thing is clean the supreme court, clean the ombudsman, clean the Commission on Audit … the the rest wil follow.

      The impeachment is not a waste of time and resources … at least ngayon alam na lahat ng mga nag-iisip na Pilipino sa si Corona ay magnanakaw, sinungaling na pati academic records niya ay sinungaling, in short he is an animal and not fit to be a chief justice , actually not fit to be a Filipino.

    • 458.8
      jun 2 says:

      @abcguy

      sana, naman sinabi mo kung anong dapat unahin, at kung ano ang magandang sulusyon ang naiisip mo, nang me matutuhan naman kami sa iyo!!! kaw talaga oh, pero kung me binabayaran ka sa ganyang diskarte mo, pag husayan mo, sana makatulong yan sa iyo at sa pamilya mo!

    • 458.9
      manny says:

      @ abcguy,
      That ‘s the reasoning why we continue to be at this mess , and unable to get rid of this social cancer .. Why don’t you sir read and re-read comment above you of Mr. Peregrino Natividad.

      The main mandate why Pres. Pnoy was elected is to get rid of corruption in our government. That should be the focus. And it already started from the top , then lets deal with the corrupt ex-president so the rest in government
      will follow good governance. When this’s done those and more Filipinos blessed with resources after staying abroad will come and invest in our country.

    • 458.10
      PinoyConcerned888 says:

      No way….dapat sagutin lahat ni corona ang mga allegations sa kanya at kapag di nya nasagot, it proves that he is guilty. Napakarami nang doubt sa kanya ang taong bayan that he continually diversifiy. Sa mga sinasabi nya in public lalo lang syang nabubuking…di na nya maloloko ang taong bayan liban sa mangilan ngilan na kaalyado ni corona na ayaw makita ang malinaw na motibo ni corona. ginagamitan nya ng reverse psychology, mukhang sya yata ang may probema sa pag-iisip eh.

    • 458.11
      Elena Lemi says:

      @abcguy

      I agree that there are some important things the gov’t should tackle but have you ever think if the fake president didn’t appoint Corona to the SC, will we have impeachment? Before the 2010 election the fake president was already preparing for she knew there will be cases file against her.

      Be that it is a political propaganda, don’t you think it’s high time we clean up the mess of the past for a better Philippines? If you can answer me straight, I would like to hear your side.

    • 458.12
      maddog says:

      the more reason that it is the right thing to remove corona and the senators should do it now.

      in an environment full of corruption, everything will cost more than is necessary. government debt will rise and so will taxes. and that means its people has to pay more.

    • 458.13
      Kabalyero01 says:

      @abcguy

      as a taxpayer, I have Php 100 million reasons why CJ Corona must be impeached

      as a citizen, I am invoking my Constitutional right to engage myself in governance

      as a voter, I am exacting accountability from my chosen elected officials to pursue
      the conviction of CJ Corona through the senate tribunal

      as a member of this community of concerned Filipinos demanding Truth and Justice,
      I challenge you to open your heart and mind if Renato C. Corona is morally fit as
      Chief Justice and his presence at the SC will benefit the 108 million Filipinos until 2018?

      This present dispensation is mandated by 15M Filipinos to pursue its relentless campaign
      to weed out corrupt government officials.

      THAT IS A PRIORITY!

  21. 457
    Eddie Boy says:

    Everyone had seen or read the real estate forms posted in this forum which were duly notarized and recorded by the County Recorder of Placer County. Recording of public document is required under the laws of the State of California for it to become valid and enforceable. Grant Deed is the document that transfer title from seller to buyer or from grantor to grantee, Deed of Trust : In real estate in the United States, a trust deed or deed of trust is a deed wherein legal title in real property is transferred to a trustee, which holds it as security for a loan (debt) between a borrower and lender. The borrower is referred to as the trustor, while the lender is referred to as the beneficiary of the trust deed.. In case of loan default, the trustee will enforce the foreclosure of your property.
    Notice during the impeachment trial, Vicente bought the Marikina property from Cristina Corona, the sale was not recorded, there’s no transfer of title, they did not comply with the law, yet they believe Cuevas argument that the property is not owned by the Corona’s. Cuevas is not the law, there are processes to follow in real estate transactions under the law and if those are not followed, like the purchase of Charina’s property, the transaction is not legal. Legally, the Marikina property are still owned by the Corona’s. The sale and transfer was not recorded by government agency concern, the sale is only between seller and buyer, therefore it is not legally enforceable. Senators actually accepted Cuevas’s arguments without legal basis and law supporting his arguments.

    • 457.1
      JiroArturo says:

      @eddie boy Meron kang punto. Pero ang maghahatol kay Corona ay nagbubulagan at nagbibingihan. Meron na yan desisyon sa umpisa pa lang ng paglilitis. Kahit ano pang argumento at ebidensiya ang ipapalabas ng defense wala na rin saysay. Ewan ko na lang kung mabuksan ang dollar accounts na nagkakahalaga ng milyon-milyon dollars.

      • 457.1.1
        Eddie Boy says:

        If and when Corona disclaim his dollar accounts and declare that those are deposited in trust for his daughters residing in the US, US tax laws are very strict on undeclared foreign assets, whether cash or real estate. When you file your federal income tax return, a question must be answered regarding this matter. Like the SALN, you sign it, you own it.

        • 457.1.1.1
          raissa says:

          Pls provide a link citing this law.

          thanks.

          • 457.1.1.1.1
            Eddie Boy says:

            http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=254501,00.html

            Have a nice day!

          • 457.1.1.1.2
            Eddie Boy says:

            Hiding income offshore Over the years, numerous individuals have been identified as evading U.S. taxes by hiding income in offshore banks, brokerage accounts or nominee entities and then using debit cards, credit cards or wire transfers to access the funds. Others have employed foreign trusts, employee-leasing schemes, private annuities or insurance plans for the same purpose.

            The IRS uses information gained from its investigations to pursue taxpayers with undeclared accounts, as well as the banks and bankers suspected of helping clients hide their assets overseas. The IRS works closely with the Department of Justice to prosecute tax evasion cases.
            While there are legitimate reasons for maintaining financial accounts abroad, there are reporting requirements that need to be fulfilled. U.S. taxpayers who maintain such accounts and who do not comply with reporting and disclosure requirements are breaking the law and risk significant penalties and fines, as well as the possibility of criminal prosecution.

            http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=254501,00.html

            • jfd says:

              @Eddie Boy

              May I add that in the same irs.gov website one can find Form 3949-A (Information Referral) which any person could fill out inconspicuously to report to the IRS any suspected violation of the U.S. tax law.

              More power to the OPM movement.

              • netty says:

                Hurt him on the jugular that is reporting the daughters hidden income from the IRS. Even Al Capone went down in history because of this. I am positive this will knock him out before you know it. Go na, now na!

              • duquemarino says:

                @netty You are perfectly right. If the impeachment court would do otherwise, Taxman (woman) Kim Henares has probably enough solid evidences to file tax evasion against the Crown. Sa dami ng information na naibahagi ng mamamayan ng Cyber Plaza Miranda na mula sa iba’t-ibang sektor ng lipunan, all she has to do is connect the dots.

                Remember this, “The jury that convicted Capone consisted almost entirely of rural, white men. Among them, a retired hardware dealer, a country storekeeper and a farmer. Judge Wilkerson substituted this jury for the original jury to prevent tampering. (CHS DN 97016)”

                Blessed Easter to all of us!!!!!

        • 457.1.1.2
          techburns says:

          I don’t think Corona does not know this. Maybe this is why the dollar accounts are not open yet. I am curious of what the defense could come up with.

          We can’t underestimate the defense pero sa dami ng matang nakatingin, mahihirapan sila.

          Onward Cyber Plaza Miranda

  22. 456
    erick says:

    Para sa mga kababayan worldwide, eto po magandang reference to access relevant information inside the SC. for example po yung TRO sa dollar account http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprudence/2012/february2012/200238-TRO.pdf

    Also you can enter Senator-judge’s name or any “name” sa search box para malaman po kung sinu-sino ang may pending case(s) sa supreme court. http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/search/index.php?cx=011534559016285832868%3A3vlgertfrly&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=miriam+defensor+santiago&button=SEARCH

    Don’t worry these are all public records. Ngayon ko lang po toh nalaman and its very informative.

    Enjoy!

    • 456.1
    • 456.2
      Mafe says:

      Thank you erick!

    • 456.3
      netty says:

      Aba eh, meron na palang ganitong relevant information accessible sa madlang pipol. Can I present my unsolicited advice? Since next year is another election year, which I am not sure what government level, pwede rin sigurong gumawa ng mga relevant information din tungkol sa mga tatakbong representaives/politicians about their propagandas/ performances/ who voted for this and that bills, kagaya nong DOH …Know your Meat program… Eto naman Know your Representatives program which can also be accessible to even smaller barrios /barangays to encourage poor voters to scrutinize more on the merits of the running politicians so they are not only choosing based on popularity of families /or being actors. That way they would start to become educated, well informed and enlightened voters, hopefully. Matuwid na daan na po.

  23. 455
    Jegs says:

    If she was in Florida with Carla from 2002 – 2006, she could have saved a lot. Physical therapy assistantship programs give out around $40k per year (14% tax). She could have easily qualified given her caliber education. Add in any additional passive income. And I suppose she has no dependents at that time yet.

    $3000 tutorial per month is very doable, Ang advantage nga niya may training sya from pisay and up, so she can tutor subjects beyond PT. Sometimes 3 to 4 students per session yan, depending on the topic. Eto din raket ng sister ko when she was in grad school (from pisay and up din) at sabi nya conservative estimate na daw ang $3k per month. Pag crunch or finals month mas malaki kita. May iba pang sources of passive income like ebay and other part time jobs beyond the academic calendar.

    This just shows she could have actually saved that amount by accumulating passive income during her student years, where taxes imposed are lenient. Add in whatever savings she might have from 2006 to 2008 as a full time physical therapist.

    With regards to the acquisition of properties, it can really happen that there are “deals you don’t want to pass up”, where you must have someone act in your behalf – which needs to be formalized. The formalities though can be a bit late (trip to consul, etc) like what happened to my sister in Texas who had to go to California to get an SPA to allow the selling of her car to a family friend. Although the car and money changed hands already, the formal deed came in late. With regards to where they got the COH for those payments, I presume the BGEI account and it won’t reflect on the CJ’s since it was the daughter who eventually replenished it.

    • 455.1
      suplada says:

      Ha Ha Ha! Sa mga naghahanap ng FICTION, Eto yon. Nandito ang FICTION.

      SIGURO tutorial. SIGURO pera ng BGEI. SIGURO Physical therapy assistantship programs. SIGURO na late lang yung SPA kasi may magandang deal SIGURO.

      Ang lakas ng imagination mo.

      • 455.1.1
        netty says:

        pwera supla hane! parang ganun na nga yun, fix -yun fix- that baka madiskobre na naman ni Raissa.;))

        • 455.1.1.1
          Vibora says:

          @netty, are you from the town where Buruwisan is located? just curious hane, maybe we have something in common.

          • 455.1.1.1.1
            netty says:

            Buruwisan Falls, Laguna .I googled it. Oh,I would love that place but I am not a local there. kABAYAN is my province mate but now I am happily transplanted in the Land of the Braves…bbrrr TY for asking… TC..

    • 455.2
      johnny lin says:

      What do you mean by tutorial. She did not have PT license in Florida, she did not have enough credentials to qualify as PT graduate under US standard. Who is going to accept her as a teacher? Who in their right mind is going to get PT lessons privately like piano or math lessons from an unproven transient in Tampa? Impossible.

      What did your sister teach?

      if she has 4 students per session she makes $3000 a month at $25- 50 per hourly session that would be $1400 maximum income a week, 7 days a week with same students. Who is the student getting tutorial doing it everyday? How many sessions did she have in one day? Did she have license doing that if she has even one session a day? She would not have lasted few months running an illegal school if she did it everyday with many sessions.

      Everyone has the ability to have passive income, but not everybody is successful in saving lots of money in a very short period. From Corona himself, the only explanation for her daughter’s source of income was “double job”. So much for your speculation in reality for Charina. In theory, its possible to save by beating your ass to work 24/7/365. In reality, impossible.

      • 455.2.1
        Jegs says:

        @Johnny Lin apparently ayaw mag work ng reply button. Charina stayed in Florida with Carla for 4 years to get additional education so that she can be granted license. PT assistantship programs give out ~$40k per year less 14% tax lang. Savings could be in order since Carla has been there early on and could have buffered some of her expenses, especially rent which can take up most of her allowance.

        Schools provide tutorial opportunities to augment student incomes. Her academic credibility will surely suffice for her to teach undergraduate students on their areas of difficulties. This is what my sister (who is also from Pisay and UP) did when she took her graduate studies, teaching basic mathematics and sciences. Earnings here directly go into savings (the ballpark figure I stated below came from my sister) and it’s very feasible to earn that amount. Call it extraordinary if you may but don’t underestimate the academic credentials of some people who can translate it into money.

        • 455.2.1.1
          Elena Lemi says:

          @Jegs

          Let’s just say you’re right. Then why don’t Carla & Charina show us proofs how much they had earned so there will be no arguments regarding this matter. If the defense has it they would have paraded it in front of the media. Try convince me!

          • 455.2.1.1.1
            Jegs says:

            Let’s wait and see. If you may have noticed the defense has been presenting merits of their case inside the impeachment court only. If ever these accusations will be brought up by the prosecution, then they will surely answer this at the right venue. For now we are talking about the lives of private citizens which really has no bearing for now in the articles charged against the CJ.

            • ArielD says:

              It is NOT in the interest of the defense to allow this to come up in the trial, and thus form part of the record. Cries of “irrelevant your honoeur!!!” will meet any attempt by the prosecution to bring it up.

              Private citizens have the right to, well, their privacy… unless the CJ and the members of his family truly have nothing to hide as he has claimed, I don’t see them volunteering any kind of testimony, much less documentary evidence, that would tend to help the prosecution.

              There are ways, however, of using this information to the prosecution’s advantage… and that’s where cleverness and legal skill on the part of the prosecution team during rebuttal will play a huge part. In terms of chess, ill-advised moves on the part of the defense have exposed their king to a possible checkmate (insofar as the PUBLIC’S perception of the trial is concerned – the judges may have a different opinion), but such openings are easily squandered by passive or unskilled players.

              Let’s hope that our Representatives proves equal to the task.

              • fredicule says:

                Yes, but TJ is not a private citizen, he is a public servant and he accepted it to be, even in the middle of the night from a Midnight Runner( Shenzhen, China remember?) and he dragged along with him his daughters and planned to do the same to his wife (will testify daw which I did not believe for a second just like the dollar accounts that he will not surely expose) but backtracked when criticized first but no other than Rene Saguisag. So Charina cannot have a privacy right because she was a willing accomplice.

              • kabayan2020 says:

                well in this game, the king corona sacrifices everything that doesnt make sense for his family. nag start yung problema nya nung tanggapin nya ang midnight appointment nya na walang kadelikadeza. yan ang mahirap sa pinilit, lalong nagkapalipilipit.
                now, kung nag let go na lang sya nung start ng impeachment d sana retired na lang sya ngayon at nagpapakasarap s mga nanakaw nya.. sus, obvious na obvious na marami syang hindi maipaliwananag na yaman.. yung dollar pa lang napakalaking question mark na!

              • PinoyConcerned888 says:

                Sa lakas ng kompyansa nya sa mga dekampanilya nyang mga defense team, pro bono kuno, lalong kumapal ang pagmumukha nya. Nag-pretend syang di makikita ng tao ang mga kasinungalingan nya at aayon sa kanya ang batas. Di nya akalain na maraming concerned citizen na nagmamatsag sa kanya at kahit na baluktutin nya ang batas. Ang taong bayan ang magpapanipis ng kanyang mukha dahil sa kahihiyan

            • austin tx says:

              TJ’s dummies should know what the risks of being used are because they are being rewarded for taking those risks.

              The evidence being revealed in this article and others are still relevant despite what the defense are saying:

              “While the overrated Enrile heartily plays his role, the senators should never lose sight of the fact that impeachment is essentially political (read policy making). And the policy question of the moment that is of extraordinary importance is whether it is wise for the senators as policymakers to now pave the way for the appointment of a new chief justice to be at the helm of an institution that is so invested with awesome but delicate State powers. They could arrive at this critical decision not solely on the basis of evidence ruled admissible by Judge Enrile but also on other facts and information they have judged to be reliable, justifiable, truthful and relevant to their policy goal.”

              That paragraph was taken from:
              Judicializing the Corona impeachment diminishes Senate role
              Written on February 24, 2012 by Abe N. Margallo

        • 455.2.1.2
          johnny lin says:

          I am not belittling capacity of Charina but the credentials of your sister are different compared to hers, She is in graduate school probably her BS degree is related to math and sciences. If you noticed I placed math above as an example. Students in US under tutorial are not that dumb either. Besides Charina career needed internship in rehab center to have clinical experience and job was physical in nature unlike your sister in school full time.

          Charina was denied licensure in Nevada in 2002. what are the possibilities she was denied and the reason she applied. She applied there instead of going to Tampa directly because Nevada has lax requirement for licensure. She was denied because she failed exam, probably not, or else she wont be put on public record but most probably her credentials or grades were poor.

          Do you know why states publish rejections or suspensions for licensure? if she applies in other states the PT boards in those states could inqquire from Nevada what is their reason for denial which reason they could use as reference instead of going thru all the rigors of interviewing or giving exam to applicant to save their time.

          And students who are determined to get license since financial support is not a problem, they concentrate on their studies rather than trying to earn extra money. That is an attitude of most Filipinos needing a license before they could earn good income.

          • 455.2.1.2.1
            Jegs says:

            An attribute for non-issuance of license is the curriculum of the school of origin as approved by the board. Most of the time those who want to practice outside really need additional credentials for them to be allowed to practice. It’s not because of poor grades but a difference in the curriculum system. My sister as well had to go through the same thing where even her graduate units in UP were not considered and she had to start from scratch as well. Extra money can still be earned while studying. Have you studied the course outline of PT in UP Manila and the extensive math and science training in Pisay? For sure she can handle the basics with ease.

            • simplify1 says:

              jeffrey john, este jegs: curious lang ako kung ano ang masters ni charina na sinasabi mong graduate studies na tinapos nya…sa pilipinas ba eto kinuha? I respect your pride of your schools… but once someone migrates to north america, his or her school credentials will only be at par with someone graduating from other universities in manila. The “social benefits” of graduating from prestigious schools in the philippines no longer exist in a foreign land. Pare pareho na tayo dito, abilidad na ang labanan dito….

        • 455.2.1.3
          techburns says:

          @Jeg Do you know Charina personally? if not, then your argument is useless. Everyone knows it’s possible to some people, though to most people it’s improbable. Pedro’s is not the same as Juan. Who knows, she might have won in vegas casino or invested in stocks or made big deals on selling stuff… the possibilities are endless, but, can anyone give proof that she did this and that to amass wealth? Only Charina can give proof that she can.

          We can only analyze what facts we have, and they are all posted right here.
          The Facts speak for themselves loud and clear. If she can really afford these two properties, the purchase could have been done in unquestionable manner.

        • 455.2.1.4
          kabayan2020 says:

          jegs, ilabas na lang nya yung 1040 nya.. tsaka 1040 ng sister mo.. dami pang satsat eh.. hanggat wala kang ebidensya, puro theory lang yang sinasabi mo. ika nga ni cuevas HEARSAY! anybody can say something..

        • 455.2.1.5
          pelang says:

          you seem to very well know her. are you related to her at nag gagalaiti ka sa pagtatanggol sa kanya. if every PT practice what she did, wala nang pulubi sa mundo.

    • 455.3
      Elio Madama says:

      What Mrs. Maria Charina Corona and her sister Carla need to do is very, very simple.
      To clean their names and his father’s name is to SHOW THEIR INCOME TAXES RETURNS IN THE USA.
      And you know very well that even money “made under the table” must show in the taxes.
      Florida may have low taxes, but federal taxes are the same in the whole USA.
      How about if they also show copy of the money transferred from USA to Manila to pay for the properties?
      How about the maintenance fees on the four properties in Manila.
      Remember, Mrs. Carla and husband “invested” in Manila UN MILLION DOLLARS and few years.
      Of course is possible, why not?
      But the best is to prove it with the tax returns.
      Then, will be the end of the problem.

      • 455.3.1
        JiroArturo says:

        @Elio Madama. Naisip na rin siguro nila yon ipakita ang tax return. Kung meron talagang ganoon kinitang malaki binigay na nila kay Cuevas o sa parents. Siguro hindi kalakihan ang suweldo kaya hindi mailabas.

    • 455.4
      techburns says:

      we do not say it’s Impossible. It is always possible given luck and hard work, but analyzing the circumstances and the facts like,
      1. Hubby’s waiver
      2. Buying 2 expensive properties 11 days apart
      3. having a wealthy and influential father,
      4. having license approved in Dec. 2006, basically 2007 na yun.
      5. well you will have to read all blogs written about this to enumerate everything. tinatamad na ko mag-enumerate

      We do not know how she did it. she might have won a lottery, had noodles 3 times a day or whatever. She might have invested in stocks and had doubled her money, well, only she can tell.

      But given the facts, common sense tells me, kay TJ nato yung McKinley. Everyone who knows how to read can figure that out. The downpayment for the CA property could’ve been also be provided by TJ, hence, the hubby’s waiver.

      • 455.4.1
        pelang says:

        oh yes, as in nagdildil ng asin araw araw to save 200K Dollars. LOL! what johnny lin said was true. do you think a licensed PT would allow himself to compete with an unlicensed one? Don’t you even dare. Her neighbors would know if there are patients, or students who would come to her house for lessons or physical therapeutic treatment or whatever. ang takot lang niya isumbong sa IRS. magiging talk of the town siya dahil ang pasyente niya magyayabang na sa kaniya mura lang ang singil in comparison to a licensed one. lalo namang hindi siya pwedeng maningil ng mas mahal kesa doon sa me license dahil kung kasing mahal ang singil niya kesa doon sa licensed PT doon na lang sila pupunta sa Licensed PT, wala pang sabit. . like here in germany, everyone who is on skillpower business (like builders or butchers, bakers etc. has special master license which they earn hard by studying and becoming a master of any trade and only these are allowed to open up business of trade.. so kung ang isang manggugupit na merong salon nalaman niyang meron kumukompetensiya sa kanya na walang license to do so, hindi registered na merong business, nagse-service sa mga kakilala diyan sa may area nila, ay pwede niyang ireklamo dahil kinukumpentensiyahan siya, siya nagbabayad ng tax, at meron pang license. Malaki ang magiging parusa sa iyo ng IRS fine at more fine . at kung katulad pa ni Charina na foreigner siya, kahit pa meron siyang green card o naturalized citizen pa siya, baka ma deport pa siya. it maybe different in the USA , pero ang principle ng mga developed countries ay pare-pareho. kaya nga sila maunlad.

        • 455.4.1.1
          techburns says:

          simple lang ang point ko dito. may magsyota, natulog sa isang kwarto. kinaumagahan syempre iisipin mo nagmilagro,
          pero sasabihin nila nag-tongits lang sila magdamag.

          Siyempre hindi ka maniniwala. Pero ang tanong nakita mo ba? (logic says ano ba gagawin ng babae at lalaki sa loob ng kwarto na silang dalawa lang) Pero ang sabi nga nila nag-tong-its lang sila eh, tas pakita pa sa yo may baraha na ginamit. LOL

          Para sa karamihan sapat na yung magkasamang natulog yung magsyota sa isang kwarto na silang dalawa lang.
          Sapat na ang ebidensya kay TJ para sa atin, pero hindi dito ang labanan. Magaling defense team nya…. kaya nilang patunayan (at walang duda) na nag-tong its lang yung magsyota. LOL
          Kaya tuloy natin suportahan si Mam raissa at lahat ng contributors hanggang maihayag ang buong katotohanan.

  24. 454
    erick says:

    Anybody here have access sa Phil stock exchange or broker-dealer or other investment entities or share/partnership sa corporation? kc kung mahilig ang mga coronas mag-invest sa real estate i’m pretty sure meron din cla sa money market and other businesses.

  25. 453
    Mafe says:

    Hey everyone, Raissa’s latest post is out. OMG is all I can say!

  26. 452
    Den says:

    Dear Fellow Netizens of Plaza Miranda,

    Do not let your guards down! It is still a long way to go before the trial resumes. Renato Corona will not relent. He will not resign, and he will not take a leave of absence. He, and his gang of liars, err.., lawyers, are too callous and proud to surrender. But as long as our online sleuths keep on digging them damn dirt from under Corona’s nose, Corona and his gang will never rest from trying to catch up with their own lies.

    Keep the faith! With the trial suspended, our countrymen will look to this blog more and more in their search for truth. A star will shine brightest when the night is at its darkest. The more they suppress the truth, the more it will shine forth with a light that will render them blind.

    March on! Victory will not be at the hands of the Senate whose members have betrayed the people’s sovereign will. Victory will be by the collective will of the people. The cry for truth, justice and rectification will be so loud they will not be able to ignore it. The people will triumph and those against truth shall be cast away.

    Fight and never give up! For us, for our children, for our country and everything our ancestors fought and died for.

  27. 451
    rey reyes says:

    DEAR RAISSA,

    WILL YOU PLEASE CHECK THAT PROPERTY IN CALIFORNIA? THEY MIGHT GET A LOAN FOR 30 YEARS BUT AFTER FEW MONTHS THEY PAID IN FULL.

    WHAT DO U THIN RAISSA.? POSSIBLE NAG LOAN KUNWARI THEN AFTER FEW MONTHS BINAYARAN NG BUO ANG PROPERTY.

    • 451.1
      JiroArturo says:

      @rey reyes, Pwede ba huwag mo ng bigyan ng ibang trabaho si Raissa. Hindi naman siya nasa California para i-confirm lahat ang papeles doon sa condo ni Charina. Ikaw na lang kaya ang mag volunteer. Makakatulong ka pa sa kanya para mahalungkat pa ang ibang katotohanan.

      • 451.1.1
        Anton says:

        Nagalit ang mama, ha ha Oo nga naman.

      • 451.1.2
        NorCaLLady... says:

        ..ahihihihi… ;))

      • 451.1.3
        netty says:

        hahha, pardon pls, @ JIRO ;):) my husband’s namesake but mine they say is Mr Fix it otherwise Macgyver , so your comment @RR is kinda hilarious.

        • 451.1.3.1
          JiroArturo says:

          @netty Pakiulit nga ang sinabi ko kay @RR. Hindi ko na matandaan sa dami ng mga comments ko.

          • 451.1.3.1.1
            netty says:

            It is ok, nagulo pa kita., just saying naaliw mo ako sa comment mo above on this block for personal reasons. Yes delegation of tasks is positive for this forum is also a collective effort to gather WMD so to speak against the corrupt(S). cheers ,, be safe on your Holydays.

    • 451.2
      Eddie Boy says:

      You can check with Placer County recorder if the mortgage company recorded a reconveyance to Charina. Or you can check with First American Title Company and talk to any Title Officer if the mortgage lien has been cleared.

  28. PROSECUTION’S PROPAGANDIST says:

    Prosecution’s propagandist, too
    FRONTLINE
    Ninez Cacho-Olivares

    03/27/2012

    So why should Raissa Robles, blogger, come up and claim a property in the United States that belongs to the daughter of Chief Justice Renato Corona and link it to the CJ while insisting that such information is relevant to his alleged dollar account?

    Earlier, even when this blogger was aware of the fact that the two other residences in the US do not belong to the CJ, she nevertheless linked them to him, which is not only reflective of a tabloid reporting mentality but also fairly malicious, as she was obviously trying to create an entirely different impression on those properties as probably belonging to him under a dummy, then claiming that heavens, no, she is not saying that the properties belong to the CJ.

    So why bring it up then, if the properties are not in the name of the CJ?

    But that wasn’t the end of it or her. Still she claimed in an interview with the usual yellow media yesterday of the linkage between daughter Charina’s purchase of an unnamed property in the US and her purchase of the McKinley property in a space of 22 days, claiming that it would be too much for Charina to have two liabilities while stressing on the importance of the link to the CJ’s dollar deposits. Hello. Wht a gossip she is. The liabilities are not the blogger’s problem or business, for that matter but Charina’s.

    She even stressed that all these were relevant and material to the impeachment case.

    She should take up law first, because if she did, she would have known that (a) it is neither relevant to the impeachment case nor (b) is it material to the same impeachment case and (c) she is being impertinent with her claim, considering the fact that (1) the property mentioned is obviously registered in the name of the CJ’s daughter and not the CJ himself and (2) the prosecution has already rested its case.

    Then too, just who does she think she is, insisting on the CJ to clarify his statement that “we do not own any property in the United States?” with her even demnding if the “we” used by the CJ means only the CJ and his wife Cristina, or his entire family.

    And what is it to look into the properties abroad of daughter Charina, who is not the subject of the impeachment trial?

    Can Robles prove that Charina is just a dummy when the blogger herself admits that the property is in the name of Charina for her to even insinuate that she is merely a dummy for the CJ?

    Not even the prosecution team can prove that the other properties in the name of his other daughters are his — certainly not when official documents and other sale documents point to the children being the real owners.

    And what does all that she says in the blog have to do with the dollar account of the CJ?

    Robles, along with a few more journalist-bloggers are said to be conduits of past demolition jobs against the CJ.

    Raissa has also been tagged earlier by a Tribune source as being one of those who had passed on to prosecution members the PSBank account numbers and the manufactured photocopy of the dollar accounts in the name of the CJ.

    The thing is, since she is a blogger, as well as a journalist, being stringer for an Asian newspaper, if she truly has the “goods” on the CJ’s deposits and properties abroad, why does she put these out in her blog instead of coming up with a genuine journalist’s report, instead of coming up with all these innuendos in her blog, which isn’t journalism at all and worse, she is showing her partisan color in coming up with such innuendos against the CJ.

    She may not be officially a member of the prosecution team but she certainly is starting to look like one of its propagandists

  29. Lamosto says:

    Ala eh!
    Kahit linggo-linggo pala bumili, pwede!

    “Morales said Corona had only one dollar account in 2003, or a year before he was appointed Associate Justice of the Supreme Court during the time of former President and now Pampanga Representative Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
    But in 2004, Corona opened 13 more dollar accounts; additional 9 in 2005 or a total of 23 dollar accounts from 2003 to 2005 alone.
    In 2006, Corona opened additional 12 dollar accounts; 35 more in 2007; and another 14 accounts in 2008.
    So by 2008, Morales said Corona had a total of 49 dollar accounts and added another 14 accounts bringing the number to 63 in 2009.
    From 63 accounts, Morales said Corona again opened 12 dollar accounts in 2009 and six more accounts in 2010.
    “In 2011, he had 81 dollar accounts, he added one account that gives a total of 82 dollar accounts,” said the Ombudsman.”

    Spokening DOLLAR$!!!

  30. felice says:

    Raissa, mukhang talagang NAPIKON ka sa comment ko tungkol sa writing mo. Hindi ako Master of Language, pero dahil hindi ko Master, hindi ibig sabihin na hindi ako marunong kumilatis mg topnotch writing. Tulad din ng pagkain. Kahit hindi ka Chef, alam mo kung masarap o hindi ang luto Hindi ako ang journalist.” Ikaw ang journalist. Therefore, ang standards para sa iyo ay dapat ikaw ang “Master of Language.” Hindi ba? At dahil hindi ako impressed sa writing mo, naging loka-loka na ako? (Re your inclusion of “Mandaluyong” in your sarcastic reply to my comment). What is in order here is the EGO CROWN for you, rather than a crown for the lunatic that you say I am just because I gave you some pointers in your writing. Raissa, it would behoove you to take note of my criticism in order to improve your future writings. Deep in your heart, you know it’s true that your syntax, organization, etc could use some work. Anything given to the public must bear criticism and comments. Your reaction shows your lack of professionalism. You were very ANGRY and DEFENSIVE. A professional would have replied this way: “Thanks for your comments, Felice. Yes, I’m still green, but hope to get better and better with each journalistic piece.” Deep in your heart, you know I was right. I am amused to see the angry reactions to my comment: Must have hit a nerve. The nerve of truth. So, Raissa. Make sure your future articles are tight and perfectly written (yes, in professional writing, sloppiness is not allowed). As to your loyal admirer Elena Lemi’s comment: Who or what is MDS? I need to know if I have a long-lost relative I know not of. I do wonder how much time Elena and others have, constantly making comments. Would they even have time to take a shower? And most of their comments are shallow, sarcastic, useless, personal, and destructive. Lots of ego involved. In the end, all this is garbage. The only thing that matters is where we end up after death (this comment is for Christians). If you are not a believer, ignore this part. It’s healthy that we all want to search for the truth, and an open platform for discourse is rather commendable. Therefore, criticisms to your article should be an issue that can be taken for granted. Take it in stride. Take whatever value you can get from them, and don’t get all riled up. Raissa, it is not professional to reply the way you did to me. Remember that. You actually proved my comment to be true. That you are still quite green as a journalist. And I will dare say herein that, in a way, I am a Master of Language. But never purporting to be a professional such as you are. I don’t have the degree or credentials, but I have the instinctive feel for language. A journalistic and investigative piece of journalism must not include personal opinions. Stick to the facts if they are indeed facts (meaning, documented), and classfy the non-facts as mere questions. Speculation, by the way, has no place in strict journalism. That belongs to the editorial column. First, decide what your article is. Is it investigative, or is it an editorial? Review your lessons in college about journalism, and stick to the rules. Beware that you don’t acquire self importance just because you are getting hundreds of comments. The goal of a journalist is to expose the truth – the truth in its proper context. You are a mere conduit, a messenger, not the center of the issue at hand. Do write the Truth not only in its barest and obvious form, but also truth with all its delicate subtleties. If some is something is in an “alleged” stage, avoid writing it as if it’s already a fact. An “incomplete” truth is not yet truth or a fact. Not yet. Make sure you review yuor writing before publishing it to make sure it does not contain innuendos that might plant seeds in the readers’ minds. Because if that is done, it becomes propaganda, not professional journalism. Best of luck to you, Raissa. You’re going to need it. God bless us all.

    • Alan says:

      Sorry, Raissa’s time is too precious to waste replying to ageing pointless KSP trollettes. However I have a little time to spare: listen, judging from your tone you must be no less than the Greatest Journalist in the World, writing for Time, Newsweek and Trollweek among others. And you must also be a bestselling writer too. So what are you doing wasting your time in a site like this? Shouldn’t you be busy writing Harry Potter XXI? MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • techburns says:

      @felice
      Wow marunong ka palang kumilatis ng topnotch writing! Parang pagkain pala, LOL.

      Ganito na lang. Kung meron kang nakita na part ng Ariticle na twisted facts, or unclassified opinion, or questions or statements that contain inuendos, yun ang pag-usapan natin dito, kung wala naman e tumahimik ka nalang.

    • baby17 says:

      Ano daw??? Was? Am? Master of Language ba kamo…wehhhh di nga???

  31. Jeff O. M. says:

    @felice bulag ka ba? o nagbulag-bulagan naiintindihan mo ba’t nabasa ang titulo ng sinulat ni @ms raissa o babasahin ko pa’t ipapaintindi sa’yo, buti sana kung ang dalawang properties na’to nabili’t nabayaran sa loob ng maraming taon subali’t 22 days lang po!; pakitanong nga sa mga idolo mo kung papano nangyari ‘to. Sa palagay mo? bakit ba na-impeach ang idol mo si corona? idilat mo nga ‘yang mata mo ng mahimasmasan ka “hoy gising”.

    • felice says:

      Hindi ko idolo si CJ Corona. Ang mga comment ko ay tungkol sa transactions, hindi sa character ni Corona. Maraming posibilidad ang source ng pera. Hanggang matapos ang lahat, huwag tayong mag-husga.

  32. Jeff O. M. says:

    Mga kabayan worldwide at sa sambayanang Pilipinas inyong pakatandaan kung sakaling ma-acquate si cj corona sa nalalapit na paghatol ng mga senators judges siguro naman alam n’yo na rin kung sino-sinong senador ang mga nararapat ding hatulan sa 2013 eleksyon, salamat po! at mabuhay ang mga pinoy saan mang sulok ng mundo para sa pagbabago ng Pilipinas at lalo na kina raissa at cpm; blessed us all & our beloved country phils.

  33. teri says:

    Mukhang pinahack na yata ni TJ yung Placer county website, bakit hindi ako makaconnect sa website nila.

  34. ilongolaway says:

    when you posted this article, probably wala ka man lang ideya kung papano kumikita ang mga PT like her, she could earn an excess of 10 thousand dollars a month including overtime of if me double job, you are insinuating that she cannot afford it.OMG bago mo i post ang article mo magtanong tanong ka muna, siniraan mo na cla agad,if you know this fact na malaki ang kinikita ng PT sa States at ang binayad nga lang nya d2 ay 10% maski credit card nya lang pwede na nya gamitin pangbayad ng downpayment eh, well ikaw ay isang bayaran o gusto mo iimpress c Pnoy for a position, or ur just simply u wanted ur 15 mins of fame…

    • raissa says:

      It’s not just the Roseville property.

      You should also take the McKinley property into account.

      The REAL proof is the inward remittance of money from Charina’s very own account in the US to put a down payment and then to fully buy McKinley IN CASH.

      That’s all.

      • Rodel says:

        what’s your comment about this?

        now, im disgusted. wala palang basehan mga pinag sasabi mo dito. :) won’t be reading your blogs anymore.

        “no wonder. raissa robles graduated with honors from UP majored in IMAGINATIVE WRITING..she could be the female version of CARLO J. CAPARAS and write massacre stories for movies.” – Ed Gabito

        • raissa says:

          I never put a gun on anyone’s head or crossed anyone’s palm with silver just to read my blog.

          No sweat. People are free NOT to read.

          You know what, Rodel, my background on Imaginative Writing really helps me cover the Philippines and its politics because in most instances, truth is stranger than fiction.

          I don’t need to invent things. Strange things keep happening in PH.

          Recall the time a man declared a stick-up inside a plane and proceeded to rob everyone. And then he was intending to jump out with a makeshift parachute but the steward pushed him out of the plane?

          Or take the case of this man who was expelled from high school for fisticuffs. He never finished college and yet ended up getting a full-fledged psychiatrist to fall for his smashing good looks and become his wife. He poured everything into one movie which became a box office hit.

          He was a drunkard, a womanizer and all he wanted was to have a good time. But one day he decided he wanted to become president and went for it. And won. But his vices got in the way and he was kicked out of the presidency by a perfumed mob. People thought his political life was over. And yet he managed to still make a political comeback and nearly got the presidency.

          That, RODEL, is real life AND stranger than fiction.

          • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

            well, here you go, more info about the house that you questioned. given that she could earn at least USD$79k per year, you could save enough to buy properties. stop insinuating.

            http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/04/11/12/coronas-daughter-bought-%E2%80%98starter-house%E2%80%99

            and as for the wife owning the property, it’s normal in the US.

            so @teri hindi bayaran si ilongolaway. :) why did i know this site? because this particular article made abs-cbn news frontpage, while the article to destroy this by robles, was not, or i think not. but still, clearly a slap to the face.

            oh, and you wanted the placer county registry?

            http://www.placer.ca.gov/Departments/Tax/Taxes/TaxBillSearch.aspx
            http://www.placer.ca.gov/

            no one hacked it.

            abs-cbn themselves checked it for you.

            • raissa says:

              You totally forgot she bought two properties almost at the same time.

              Factor the other one in.

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                and? just because abs-cbn themselves proved your wrong, based on their article “far from luxurious” you can’t still admit you made a mistake. they clearly said only a starter home. and if you didnt read the 1st line, i think they were mentioning you as one of his critics.

                by nadia trinidad abs-cbn north america taken from http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/04/11/12/expert-charina-coronas-home-not-luxurious-property

                ROSEVILLE, California (UPDATE) – Critics of Chief Justice Renato Corona painted a picture of a luxurious house that cost millions, and suggested that it must have bought using stolen funds.

                But when we paid a visit to the house owned by the daughter of the impeached Supreme Court chief in Roseville, California, this is what we saw: a starter home in a modest neighborhood a few miles away from a Walmart store.

                i think nadia should have been more specific. the only one who made is such was, hmm. you. now if you’re gonna claim that you never did, talk to nadia trinidad. it’s on abs-cbn news, go on, its the network that has been promoting ur blogs. :)

              • raissa says:

                The article did not prove me wrong.

                I never said the US property was “luxurious”. I merely gave the purchase price of the property.

                In fact Nadia’s story confirmed my story on the US property further.

                My story was that Charina bought two properties almost at the same time. Nadia’s story did not talk about the OTHER property in McKinley.

                Sorry.

                Your chortling is premature.

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                you still dont get it do you raissa? kasasabi lang ni nadia e, uulitin ko ba?

                “Critics of Chief Justice Renato Corona painted a picture of a luxurious house that cost millions, and suggested that it must have bought using stolen funds.”

                though you claim that you didnt, actually, you did. and there wont be a rebuttal from you if you’re conscience is clean. kaso hindi e, yan guilty of that, and claiming otherwise. :) case closed.

                oh my chortling now is premature? and what’s this article? let me get something of what you said, “Since Charina was married to Carlos Salgado, you would assume that Roseville is their conjugal home. But it is intriguing to note that on the day Charina bought Roseville, her husband Carlos signed an “Interspousal Grant Deed” waiving all his rights to the property.

                The deed turned Roseville into Charina’s “sole and separate property.”

                wasn’t that speculating? when, hmm, who was that in nadia’s article, let me post it. “In Manila, amid speculation regarding this set-up, talk was rife that the Chief Justice’s daughter may have acted as a dummy for her father in owning this house.

                But signing quit claims like these, according to Reyes, is not an unusual practice in California.

                “It’s not uncommon for married couples to enter into an agreement whether formal or otherwise, that certain property would be considered separate property of one spouse instead of community property even though that property may have been acquired during the time of the marriage. That’s not uncommon at all,” Reyes said.

                you read nadia’s article right? and this is investigative journalism? when nadia clearly denounced your “claims”

                well im done. im sorry if you cant see your mistakes in this article.

              • raissa says:

                As I said, it is true that signing quit claims is not unusual and one of the reasons is in order for the other spouse NOT TO PULL DOWN THE CREDIT RATING.

                Which would mean – the husband could have a lower credit rating than Charina.

                Which would not look good.

              • carmen says:

                Hindi ba halos magkasabay/sunod binili yong Roseville at Fort. Bakit pagkatanda ko at may nabasahan ako na doon sa Fort, “single” ang estadong nakalagay kay Charina. At siyempre alam naman ni Corona na may asawa na ang anak niya at bilang Punong Mahistrado ng Korte Suprema na binigyan kuno ni Charina ng SPA para bilhin para sa kanya yong Fort, nang ginawa ang bilihan ng Fort ipalalagay niya (Corona) “married” sa titulo o/at tax declaration. Hindi ba hayagang pagsisinungaling na naman ito?

                Kaya nga hindi karapat-dapat manatili si Corona sa kanyang posisyon unang-una siyang hindi sumusunod sa mga patakaran. Dapat walang bahid-dungis sa lahat ng pagkakataon. Siya ang huwaran ng mga maling gawa. Sino pa ang susunod sa batas?

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                basahin mo article raisa, sabi mo:
                Since Charina was married to Carlos Salgado, you would assume that Roseville is their conjugal home. But it is intriguing to note that on the day Charina bought Roseville, her husband Carlos signed an “Interspousal Grant Deed” waiving all his rights to the property.

                The deed turned Roseville into Charina’s “sole and separate property.”

                sabi naman sa article ay: “In Manila, amid speculation regarding this set-up, talk was rife that the Chief Justice’s daughter may have acted as a dummy for her father in owning this house.

                But signing quit claims like these, according to Reyes, is not an unusual practice in California.

                “It’s not uncommon for married couples to enter into an agreement whether formal or otherwise, that certain property would be considered separate property of one spouse instead of community property even though that property may have been acquired during the time of the marriage. That’s not uncommon at all,” Reyes said. ”

                finally kay jiroarturo, plus elena, sabi din ni nadia sa article nya, Charina put a 10% downpayment and assumed the balance with seller-financing that would have them pay for it for the next 30 years.

                Based on this public record alone, Reyes says there is nothing remarkable about this purchase.

                and, Statistics from the US labor department shows that this occupation remains in demand and pays an annual mean wage of at least $79,000 a year or close to P3.5 million.

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                awaiting moderation. LOL. di na ako pede magpost?

                Jose Maria Espiritu says:
                Your comment is awaiting moderation.
                April 17, 2012 at 10:31 am

                basahin mo article raisa, sabi mo:
                Since Charina was married to Carlos Salgado, you would assume that Roseville is their conjugal home. But it is intriguing to note that on the day Charina bought Roseville, her husband Carlos signed an “Interspousal Grant Deed” waiving all his rights to the property.

                The deed turned Roseville into Charina’s “sole and separate property.”

                sabi naman sa article ay: “In Manila, amid speculation regarding this set-up, talk was rife that the Chief Justice’s daughter may have acted as a dummy for her father in owning this house.

                But signing quit claims like these, according to Reyes, is not an unusual practice in California.

                “It’s not uncommon for married couples to enter into an agreement whether formal or otherwise, that certain property would be considered separate property of one spouse instead of community property even though that property may have been acquired during the time of the marriage. That’s not uncommon at all,” Reyes said. ”

                finally kay jiroarturo, plus elena, sabi din ni nadia sa article nya, Charina put a 10% downpayment and assumed the balance with seller-financing that would have them pay for it for the next 30 years.

                Based on this public record alone, Reyes says there is nothing remarkable about this purchase.

                and, Statistics from the US labor department shows that this occupation remains in demand and pays an annual mean wage of at least $79,000 a year or close to P3.5 million.

              • raissa says:

                Yes it is not uncommon.

                What the article did not ask was – why was Salgado”s name not included as owner?

                One of the possible reasons was –

                Because he has a lower credit score than Charina. Exclusion was resorted to in order to enable Charina to borrow.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @Jose Maria Espiritu

                Ikaw ang hindi nakakaintindi. Ang tanong ko kaya ba niyang magbayad sabay saby o sunod sunod sa 2 properties. Yon isa cash yon another one 30 years with 10% down. After 2 years walang nakasulat na lien so ibig sabihin clear na sa mortgage. Saan nanggaling ang pera? Gets?

              • jorge bernas says:

                @ jose maria espirito,

                Para malaman natin kong nagsasabi nang totoo si charina corona salgado ay ipakita niya sa lahat ang resibo monthly remittances niya kong paano siya nakapagpadala nang pera kay C.J. at ipakita rin ni charina ang monthly income/paycheck niya para malaman na rin natin kong kaya ni charina na bumili nang dalawang mamahaling properties at the same time.

                Para malaman mo jose maria espirito hinding hindi makaya ni charina ang mga properties na ito at dahil sa dinawit ni thief justice nato corona ang mga anak makalusot lamang ay si T.J. na rin mismo ang nagbulgar at nagdamay nang mga anak sa kahihiyan…ha ha ha…

              • jiroarturo says:

                @jose maria Espiritu
                Nag down payment si Charina ng $27K. Tapos binarayan pa niya ang Mckinley Hills ng cash P6M o $115K. Total cash $142K. Meron bang ganoon cash si Charina? Yon bang bahay sa Roseville meron pa bang balance ang loan? Ano ba ang parcel number para ma-search ko kung fully paid na ba ang bahay?

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                basahin mo article ni nadia jiroarturo, kasasabi lang na 30years to pay e.

              • jiroarturo says:

                @ Jose Maria Espiritu , @Elena Lemi

                I will call the Recorder-Registrar today to find out when the loan was fully paid. I can get the certified copy of the document by mail after paying $6 per page.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @JiroArturo

                Thanks but I want to share the half. Where can I send you the money or when you come back home I will treat you. That’s a promise. You can get my email add from Raissa. Daming trolls kasi so better careful than you know what I mean.

              • jiroarturo says:

                @Elena Lemi

                Sa Pinas ka ba ngayon? No need to send me the money. But thanks anyway. I will try my best to get that information. If I get a copy I will post it here. I might go to the Philippines. I am buying a house in Davao City.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @JiroArturo

                Just tell me when you will come back then we meet. I will not break my promise of treating you. Am not TJ. Didn’t see you in the new link.

              • jiroarturo says:

                @Elena Lemi

                I called Placer County Recorder. The lady I talked to said that there is no reconveyance – meaning that the loan has not been paid. I also search online the documents pertaining to Charina. There is an Assignment of Deed of Trust Document 2009-0050024-00. Grantor is John Laing and Corona Maria. Grantee is Wells Fargo. It was recorded in 2009. All this searching points to loan still outstanding.
                It is possible that TJ’s money was used to buy the McKinley Hills lot. It can easily be proven if TJ dollar account can be opened.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @JiroArturo

                Thanks for the info. The trat still stands when you come home. Dead end na tayo dito.

              • jiroarturo says:

                Ang layo mo naman sa akin para i-treat mo ako. Baka magselos pa ang asawa mo. Huwag na lang. Kalimutan mo na lang. Ako naman ang nag volunteer. Nag enjoy naman ako sa ginagawa kong research.
                Sa palagay ko lang acquit si Corona. Parang lima lang ang boboto for conviction. Wala akong tiwala kay Enrile, Escudero, Villar, Marcos, Recto, Pia Cayetano, Sotto.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @JiroArturo

                Pag uwi mo sa Pinas stand talaga treat ko. No problem with me you can bring your wife pa.

              • jiroarturo says:

                @elena
                Saan ka ba sa Pinas? Saan tayo magkikita? Ako lang ang uuwi. Ano ang cellphone number mo? Eto ang email add ko: JiroArturo@yahoo.com. Email mo na lang para ma-contact kita. Bibili pa kasi ako ng sim card sa Pinas para matawagan ka. Kung meron kang FB doon mo na lang i-message. Search mo renato david sa fb. Meron akong picture doon kasama ko ang wife ko, anak at apo.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                I mean treat.

              • techburns says:

                @Jose Maria Espiritu
                You said “i think nadia should have been more specific. the only one who made is such was, hmm. you”
                ang nakasulat sa Article ni Nadia ay “CRITICS of Chief Justice Renato Corona painted a picture of a luxurious house that cost millions, and suggested that it must have bought using stolen funds.”
                “Critics” ang sabi hindi iisa. Lahat daw ng kritiko ni Corona ngayon, asan ba sa Article ni Raissa na nagsasabing LUXURIOUS yung bahay? Ang nakasaad dun ay kung magkano… Downpayment daw ay 1,000,000.00 pesos take note, downpayment lang yun ah. May 1M ka ba? Ako kasi wala nun. Teka teka, sasabihin mo eh nasa US naman eh, pangkariniwan lang sa US yun, ang kaso hindi naman puro taga US ang nagbabasa. Sa isyu ng “luxurious” nasa tumitingin lang yan, pero walang sinasabi sa article na ito na luxurious yun.

                Sa article ni Nadia ang sabi “But signing quit claims like these, according to Reyes, is not an unusual practice in California.” – Yes because Californians are not Filipinos but is it a usual practice for Filipinos in California?

                At sabi pa ““It’s not uncommon for married couples to enter into an agreement whether formal or otherwise, that certain property would be considered separate property of one spouse instead of community property even though that property may have been acquired during the time of the marriage. That’s not uncommon at all,” Reyes said. ” – Yes but is it not uncommon for married FILIPINO couples?

                Sabi mo “pinopoint ng article na ito, na meron pang ari-arian si corona sa US” well ang title ng Article na ito ay “Corona’s daughter bought California and The Fort properties 22 days of each other ”
                at sabi mo pa “pinopoint ng article ng abs-cbn, na si charina talaga may ari hindi si corona” eh ang title nung Article ay “Expert: Charina Corona’s Home Not Luxurious Property”.
                Wala namang Conflict yung dalawang article na yan dahil pareho namang nagsasabi na kay charina yung Roseville. Ang hinahanapan namin ng kasagutan e kung sino ang nagbayad? Ang pagbili ng bahay e hindi parang bibili ng kendi sa tindahan.

                sabi mo maaring si Charina naghuhulog nung sa California tapos hati silang mag-asawa sa Property sa Pilipinas. OK e di mainam kung ganon nga, pero ang tanong pa rin asan ang money trail. Sa pagkakaalam ko tapos na magprisinta ang defense para sa Mckinley property, iba na ang kasunod, at hindi nila binanggit kung paano ito binayaran ni Charina. Kaya ang presumption ko (akin lang) si TJ ang nagbayad ng McKinley at ipinangalan kay Charina.

            • techburns says:

              @Jose Maria Espiritu.
              Wala naman sanang question kung yung property lang sa US ang binili ni Charina. Hindi naman pinag-uusapan dito kung pang mahirap ba itong bahay na ito o pang mayaman. Ang punto lang ay kung magkano ba ito. kaso ayon sa depensa ni TJ, sinasabing si Charina rin ang bumili ng lupa sa McKinley na halos kasabay ng pagbili sa kanyang bahay sa US. Pinatunayan ng depensa sa pamamagitan ng SPA at Deed of Assignment na si Charina ang legal na may ari ng naturang lupa sa McKinley, pero walang ebidensya na ipinakita kung papano ito binayaran ni Charina. Lumilitaw na ang kanyang magulang ang nagbayad nito, na pinatutunayan ng mga resibo na nakapangalan sa kanila. Sa ganang akin, kung may ebendensya sila na nagpapatunay na galing kay Charina ang ipinambayad sa McKinley, sana’y inilabas na nila. At kung mapatunayan na si Charina ang nagbayad ng lupang ito, ibig sabihin magkasabay nyang binili yung dalawang property. Ngayon natin tatanungin kung may kakayahan ba siyang bayaran ito ng sabay ng walang tulong mula sa magulang nya na napakayaman. Kung hiniram pansamantala sa magulang ang pambayad sa McKinley sana’y nasa SALN ito ni Corona.
              Yan po ang mga katanungan sa maliit kong utak na sanay bigyang kasagutan ng mga kinauukulan.

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                yay, isa ka pa @techburn. pinopoint ng article na ito, na meron pang ari-arian si corona sa US. pinopoint ng article ng abs-cbn, na si charina talaga may ari hindi si corona. kailan ito pinalabas ni robles? march 26, kailan article sa abs? april 11 (yata). so kung may paratang, may tamang panahon na ilabas ang ebidensya. bakit mo huhusgahan e di pa nga tapos, wala nang kaso ang prosecution, at depensa na maglalabas. media ginamit para iparatang itong us properties, media din ang sumagot nyan, minsan mabuti din ang abs. sila ang sumira sa “critics” ni corona, as said in the very good article, by an investigative journalist nadia trinidad. walang lumilitaw dahil pinapakita mong nagdedecide ka na sa ebidensya ng prosecution. ang huling estado ng trial ay, 45 properties went down to what? 5? or 6 based on prosecutions claim. alam ko nandun pa lang bago sila mag lenten break. pero, ikaw na rin nagsabi, na si charina ang may ari, bakit ilalagay sa saln? sinabi na mismo ng kakampi nyong si sen recto, na any daughter or son over 18, the assets of whom, shouldn’t be included in the saln. and so if that’s hers, and the deed shows that its hers, what’s it to you kung san nya nakuha pambayad? kung sa us, sya lang pede bumili, baka sa pinas silang dalawa magasawa nagbayad. papaano mo nasabing yung magulang ang nagbayad? based on mere speculation? e kasasabi lang ni robles sa taas, “The REAL proof is the inward remittance of money from Charina’s very own account in the US to put a down payment and then to fully buy McKinley IN CASH” so ano ba talaga kwento nyo? bought in cash or installment? and nasan yung “real” proof na sinasabi ni robles in the first place? so malamang, tanungin mo muna si robles kung anong pangalan nakalagay sa resibo, or mga resibo (kung installment). iba iba kayo ng kwento.

              • techburns says:

                @Jose Maria Espiritu. LOL!!!!! asan ka na Dr Pill. hehehe.

              • techburns says:

                tagalog na nga di pa naintindihan, ano ba native language mo para mapa-translate natin para sa yo.

              • jiroarturo says:

                @techburns

                Parang English ang basa ko ng news. Sorry, bobo lang kasi ako.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @Jose Maria Espiritu

                Why don’t you tell us if the property in Roseville is fully paid within 2 years. Ano magic? Nawala bigla yon lien niya sa property na yan? Why don’t you answer @Jiro Arturo? To cut it short, pakita ka ng evidence & prove that Charina has the capacity to buy the 2 properties simultaneously. Simple question. Prove it!

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                basahin nyo kasi article

                Charina made a 10% downpayment and she pays the balance every month. The balance is payable in 30 years

                hindi nyo binabasa e, awaiting moderation din post ko, so sorry na lang, baka hindi ipapost ito.

              • raissa says:

                This is what you call assuming the wrong thing.

              • Jose Maria Espiritu says:

                anyway, if you said it here about the credit rating of the husband, then MAYBE (im speculating, or you would call me assuming that) nadia would also talk about that. but it seems your hmm, how did nadia put it? ahh, your “speculation” on the properties and how she bought it only mattered. if you wish to point the credit rating, go prove it again, as you said, it’s only 1 reason, but are you sure that’s the reason? as an investigative journalist, you will try to find out, wont you? or just ask that question to the air?

                and im done here. made my point, and to the others, please read the abs-cbn article, reported by an investigative journalist.

              • raissa says:

                Nadia did not ask the question –

                Why do they do that, resort to interspousal deed transfer.

                You are avoiding the issue.

              • Elena Lemi says:

                @Jose Maria Espiritu

                I had read & seen the report at abs-cbn. The report is incomplete. I had questioned you re lien on Roseville property & simultaneous purchase of another property in Mckinley, you did not answer but just go around the bush. Best way for thief justice to prove is show the IRS/ITR of Charina. No need to argue with a moron like you!

              • Mafe says:

                Kanina ka pa nagsasabi ng basahin niyo,basahin niyo. Binasa na po namin yung isinulat ni Nadia Trinidad. Kami dito sa CPM nagbabasa, hindi lang basta comment ng comment. At hindi lang kami nagbabasa, mag-aanalyze pa. At siyempre, may initiative to do online search, offer evidences, analyses backed by law, etc…

                Wala don sa article ni Nadia na nagpapatunay na mali si Raissa or ang mga CPM’ers na nagresearch. Sa tingin ko kulang pa ang research niya at siyempre ng CPM. Kaya tuloy-tuloy pa rin ang volunteerism dito.

                Dapat pa nga magpasalamat si Nadia sa blog na ito for the lead.

              • Lolo_Basyong says:

                Di ba nag-loan si Charina ng $245K? Binayad niya ang 10% sa Roseville property, tapos binayad niya ang natira para sa cash purchase (worth 6M in pesos) sa Mckinley.

              • felice says:

                Charina is not on trial. Her father is. Strictly speaking, she does not have to prove anything to anyone. If she is called to testify in court, that’s the only time she would have to say something. In the meantime, tayong mga hanggang comments lang, dahan-dahan lang. At baka maging mukhang tanga tayong lahat in the end.

            • Mafe says:

              @Jose Maria Espiritu

              Thanks for the link and for your analysis. But I stick to my own analysis, and that is an analysis that reads between, beyond and beneath the lines of the so-called “getting the facts right” in journalism.

              I’m still waiting for the answers to the relevant follow-up questions asked by Raissa and other CPM’ers. For example, is Charina in a financial capacity to buy two properties in the span of less than a month? Roseville, perhaps yes. But McKinley after 22 days? Absolutely not!

              Another question, why was there an inter-spousal agreement? The answer is not “because it is not uncommon”. The question is why. Besides in Filipino culture, it is uncommon. So why?

              And these transactions should be viewed in light of the other circumstances in the Corona family – the penchant to pass on (disguised as sale) multi-million property to the children.

            • maria e. says:

              No it’s not normal there are states that you don’t need both names in the title but when you sell the property both has to sign. It’s very rare especially in California because women are well protected should there will be divorce. Therefore Charina’s intent to the extent that she drew a document to have her husband waive his right is ????

      • felice says:

        Raissa , mas maganda yata na kung ang sinasagot mong comment ay sa wikang Tagalog, ay dapat Tagalog din ang gamitin mong wika. Yan ang diperensiya ng mga Pilipino. Kapag magaling mag-Ingles, akala nila, mas matalino o mas-class sila kaysa sa mga Pilipinong hindi ganoong magaling. Alam mo ba ang sinabi ni Jose Rizal tungkol sa mga Pilipinong hindi nagmamahal sa sariling wika? Na sila daw ay mas masahol pa sa malansang isda. Ang daming mali sa Ingles mo Raissa. Masama ang syntax, defective ang organization, sa madaling salita, hindi puedeng ipasok sa mag periodiko or magazine na Ingles tuland ng Time, Newsweek, Wall Street Journal. Por ejemplo – ano ba yung sinasabi mong “inward remittance of money”? At saka bakit may “very own” descriptions yung account ni Charina? Hindi ba bastante na sabihim na lang na “Charina’s account in the US? At yung adjective pa na “fully” (fully buy)? Redundant. Anomg ibig mong sabihin buy in CASH? You mean cold cash? Ang sa alam ko, cheke or banker’s check ang ginagamit sa karamihan ng real estate transactions. Mahina ang Ingles mo Raisa, kaya kung pede lang, mag-practice ka sa Pilipino. Okay? At sa States, pag maganda ang credit mo at nakaipon ka ng down payment, madaling bumili ng baha. Marami diyang city bus drivers lang e dalaw o tatlo and mga bahay. $269,000 for a house in California back in 2008 was mighty cheap.

        Kaya Raisa, kung gusto mong maging batikang “investigative journalist,” dpat magaling lang mag-research at magaling ka sa contect ng situasyon.

        You are still green, very green.

        Best of luck in your investigations.

        P.S. Bawal bang maging mayaman ang Chief Justice as long as it’s not from ill-gotten wealth?

        • raissa says:

          We are pleased to welcome a master of language.

          Pls. take a seat while we get your crown from Mandaluyong.

          • Bellissima says:

            I know Felice to be a close relative of MDS. Pagpasensiyahan mo na siya Raissa, parang may tililing….lol

        • duquemarino says:

          @felice @raissa

          wow @felice you are now crowned “linguistic purist”, kasama ka siguro sa orihinal na bumubuo sa Surian ng Wikang Pambansa (SWP) alinsunod sa Batas Komonwelt Blg. 184 na nilagdaan ng Pangulo ng Komonwelt, si Manuel L. Quezon noong Nobyembre 13, 1936 o kaya ay ang Linangan ng mga Wika ng Pilipinas sa panahon ni Cory Aquino noong 1987 o baka naman ng Komisyon sa Wikang Pilipino sa bisa ng Batas Republika Blg. 7104 petsa Agosto 14, 1991.

          Gayun pa man, ang pinag-uusapan natin dito ay ang sustansiya sa mga nilalaman ng nakasulat at sa akusasyon kay corona. Wag mo sanang ilihis na ang isyu dito ay tungkol sa kaso ni Corona at hindi malaking usapin ang paggamit ng iba’t-ibang wika hangga’t nauunawaan ng mga bumabasa ang nasasaad.
          sya ng

          Bigyan natin ng pokus ang usaping kinakaharap ng punong mahistrado. At ang tanging masasabi ko, sinira ni corona ang tiwala ng bayan (betrayal of public trust, an impeachable offense) kaya dapat ay bigyan siya ng kombiksyon (tama ba yung pagsa-Pilipino ko ng “conviction”?). He he he he.

        • Elena Lemi says:

          @felice

          Nobody is perfect even you! Why don’t you start checking your own 1st? Start with your spelling!

          • felice says:

            To Elena: Sorry, hindi ako nag spell check dahil kulang ang oras ko. Unlike you, it seems who has 24-7 time for this.

            • Elena Lemi says:

              @felice

              You were the one who first criticize with regards to the writings of Raissa. When I pointed out your misspelled words, you said I got 24/7 time for this. You, yourself can’t accept me for mentioning it then. So what do you call yourself? Perfect? Nobody in this world is! Gets!
              Why not talk about the issue at hand?

        • techburns says:

          @felice
          mas maganda yata kung di ka na lang nagkumento. Kung wala ka rin lang namang maayos na argumento at manglalait ka lang ng kapwa tao, malamang babalik yan sa yo ng maraming beses.
          eto basahin mo para maliwanagan ka sa mga sinasabi mo:

          http://raissarobles.com/about-us/

          at eto naman ang kwento tungkol sa yo:

          http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

          ayos ba?

          • felice says:

            To Techburn: This site is wall-to-wall full of your “panglalait sa kapwa.” Bawal ba mag-comment kung hindi kampi kay Raissa o kung hindi anti-Corona?

            • techburns says:

              @felice Unang una, sa internet ang ispeling at mga grammar ay hindi mahalaga, at kahit anong wika ang gamitin mo ang importante naiintidihan ng bumabasa.

              Pero kung yun lang mga yun ang bibigyan mo ng pansin, siguraduhin mo na perpekto ang pagkakasulat mo dahil siguradong babalik sa yo mga sinabi mo. Marami nang gumawa nyan dito pro o anti at kagaya mo ganyan din ang nangyari.

              wala ring bawal dito, kahit mga troll (see definition) pwede, kung sa ibang sites lang yan, buti kung nakita mo pa yang post mo, censored na kaagad yan.

              mismong may ari pa nang website ang tinitira mo.

              hindi ka lalaitin dito kung hindi mo inumpisahan.

    • teri says:

      @ilongolaway I think ikaw bayaran .

      Si Thief Corona eh bistado na ang mga kasinungalingan. Kaliwa’t kanan at patong patong na mga kasinungalingan, hindi hearsay ha, me ebidensya, sa bibig nya mismo nangggaling, on live tv!

      Ang taong pinagtatanggol sya eh mga bayaran nya.

      BTW, I called Placer county assesors office today and I inquired about the lien on the Roseville property if there is any, I was transferred to the Records department and sabi nung kausap ko, sa records nila, walang Lien information on the said property. I asked her , no mortgage lien, sabi nya eh, based on the records eh no lien reported on the property. I asked her, does it mean the loan has been fully paid? she did not answer my question directly , basta sabi nya, no lien information sa record nila.

      Kung sino me access dyan, sabi nya, you can call a title company , for a fee , they can perform a preliminary title search, at yung documents na yun ang magiging evidence kung bayad na or hindi yung loan.

      • concerned citizen says:

        very interesting is that the 240.000 usd as mortgage looks to be unpaid purchase amount of the unit and the developer/builder filed for insolvency as per: http://lansner.ocregister.com/tag/john-laing/ what opens the posibility of wheeling and dealing…..

      • Rene-Ipil says:

        @Teri

        That info means that the mortgage loan had been fully paid? Insofar as the world is concerned, the property is free fom any lien. In the realm of possibility, however, Charina might owe somebody a certain amount, the payment of which is solely between Charina and her creditor.

        Let us get a copy of the pertinent document and post it here in our Cyber Plaza Miranda.

    • maddog says:

      it’s irrelevant what a pt could earn anywhere in the world. only what charina earned up to that time she purchased those two properties matter. why is it that difficult for corona’s camp to show us these numbers to prove that the purchases were legit?

      ill-gotten wealth are usually hidden under other people’s name or else it would be too obvious. these people are always relatives and friends.

    • Elena Lemi says:

      @ilongolaway

      As you said high wages ang mga PT dyan sa US. We are not contesting about that. What we want is prove it to us that Charina is capable of buying the 2 properties simultaneiusly by showing us her IRS/ITR.
      By the way, walang bayad bayad dito kaya sa ibang blog ka pumunta. Kawawa ka naman, mukhang you needed the money too much for you to comment such an idea of yours na kalawang. Pity!

    • techburns says:

      @ilongolaway. when you posted your comment, probably hindi mo binasa yung article… O baka hindi mo naintindihan…Kahit title lang sana intindihin mong mabuti. Palitan mo pa ng 11 days yung 22 days.

  35. gb says:

    musta na mga katropa….excited na me sa impeacment continuation sa May… Please do not lose hope and interest… May pagasa pa…

  36. jocko says:

    So many good people post on here with very much good and factual information. Keep it up.

    Now if you would all use your talents.. with friends, relatives etc. in and outside of the Philippines to “dig” for information. We need to know where all this “MILLIONS” of piso are coming from that is lining TJ’s pockets…and start to put some “heat” on these people or companies, hopefully that may stem the flow.
    These companies like Megaworld, PAL, etc..should be brought to justice, not so? It is called “BRIBERY”

    Maybe in the future, these kinds of events won’t be happening as frequently, and “them crooks” not be so bold about it and flaunt them millions.

    Food for thought, as Easter Sunday approaches and as we celebrate the rising of our LORD and savior, so should all Filipinos, and those that are related , married, or just friends with “rise up” and be counted and take your country “back” from those who have been looting, plundering. and stealing for you so very very long….

    Example for some work and help… Someone posted a while back he had a auto listed on SALN in 2002 worth 1.2 million..(not sure the exact figure here ) But then in 2006 0r 2008 “wala wala”…. What happen to that auto ?? How was it paid? What make etc…. Surely someone here knows a relative or friend in LTO ? ?? See if that information can come to light in here for all of to see….We just need to keep hammering more AND GET MORE INFORMATION ..

    Just my thoughts on the matter.

    God Bless all and have a extra safe weekend here.

  37. baycas says:

    My comments are “now you see it, now you don’t”…

    So here goes another re-post…

    —–

    Trivial, trivial

    A SALN is a tool against graft and corruption. It makes public officers accountable.

    A lie can be two things:

    1. Lie of commission – there are wrongful entries in SALN
    2. Lie of ommission – the needed entries in SALN are lacking

    From past cases decided by the Supreme Court, SALNs were placed under a microscope to check if these lies were committed by public officers who were accused of lying. “Public office is a public trust,” the Supreme Court always said.

    Past cases also taught us that there is actually a corrective action in accomplishing SALNs. This is by way of a review undertaken by heads of offices, for example, the Chief Justice.

    There are two factors in a SALN, namely, form and substance. The corrective action, the Supreme Court said, involved only the FORMAL defects of a SALN:

    (a) Was it filed or submitted on time?
    (b) Was it filled up or accomplished completely?
    (c) Was it in proper form?

    The task of a head of office (the reviewer) is to allow correction as to the above formal defects. The filer will later comply with the requirements of the SALN law.

    Thus, the review is limited only in scope. The SUBSTANTIAL defects will not be corrected upon review because no way can the reviewer act upon a defect in the substance of the submitted SALN:

    (d) Was the SALN accomplished by the filer truthfully or not?

    The reviewer, for example, the Chief Justice, will not be able to know if a filer is lying on his SALN or not. He is powerless to further check the accuracy of the SALN entries or omissions. As long as the SALN is filed on time and filled up completely it is then placed for safe-keeping by a custodian as required by the SALN law.

    A SALN in the filing cabinet may then be brought out into the open when the public so desires or, most especially, when a filer is suspected of wrongdoing, such as this Corona Impeachment. Scrutiny of a SALN will then take place thereafter it is publicly disclosed.

    What has been extensively discussed in this blog are details of the lies of commission AND omission possibly done by the Chief Justice.

    Trivial (or just a small item to give enormous importance) as it may seem, there was one omission in the Chief Justice’s SALN that I will give emphasis in this comment. This is the fact that the Chief Justice failed to identify his “kamag-anaks” in government up to the 4th consanguinity.

    Then Vice President Noli de Castro has a certain ROMEO C. CORONA working under him.

    Mr. Romeo C. Corona turned out to be the first cousin of the Chief Justice because Renato C. Corona placed this in his 2010 SALN. Please note that this was the first time Renato disclosed this information and apparently he mistakenly placed the “Office of the President” as the workplace of Romeo.

    I am sure there are other Coronas out there that are already working in government since the Chief Justice started filing SALNs. (One should look for other Coronas out there especially the ones who may, in one way or another, be involved or embroiled in litigation.).

    Yet, the Chief Justice inexcusably neglected them as if he is not proud of his relatives being included in his SALNs. To think that they carry the same surname as the Chief Justice’s is incomprehensible to not being able to verify and know that they are blood-related.

    It is really hard to understand that this “small” information has been neglected. But what is harder to understand is that this “small” but factual thing is given extreme importance side-by-side with the many “big” lies the Chief Justice allegedly committed in his SALN.

    Most likely, there is one and only explanation to this unthinkable failure by the Chief Justice:

    It is because SALN is just a TRIVIAL THING for the Chief Justice to be meticulous about. SALN is just a form to be filled up. SALN is just a document to be reviewed by his peer then and by himself now. SALN is just a bunch of papers kept in the cabinet. Anyway, a Supreme Court Resolution made the SALN secret from the public!

    Small wonder that Corona Defense counsels are trivializing the prosecution’s evidence and the detailed handling of Renato C. Corona’s SALNs.

    It is simply because, to the Chief Justice and company, SALN as a tool against graft and corruption is just a small thing that the accountability of Renato C. Corona is likewise trivial…to merit his conviction.

    – baycas, 04.04.2012

    • baycas says:

      On Romeo C. Corona: I first mentioned it here…

      raissarobles.com/2012/02/06/corona-led-supreme-court-okd-jail-for-2-saln-cheats/#comment-14181

      He was already working in government when the Chief Justice was still an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court.

      I am sure there are other Coronas out there that the Chief Justice failed to identify.

  38. Jeff O. M. says:

    @techburns hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon ang mga maimpluwensya’t gahaman sa kapangyarihan ang laging panalo,alalahanin mo gaano man kaliliit ang mga pulgas ‘pag kumapit/kumagat ‘to sa malaking aso 2lad ni cj, tiyak sila ang ‘di magpapatahimik sa kanya, saan na ba ngayon ang mga maimpluwensyang nilalang no’ng nakaraang administrasyon, ‘diba nakakulong na, iba kinitil sariling buhay,iba kinuha na ni lord, kaya ‘wag pakasiguro si corona maabswel2 man s’ya sa impeachment dahil marami ‘syang kapanalig ‘do’n tiyak ko naman na sa pamamagitan ng mga pulgas na maralitang sambayanang filipino at ang opm/raissa robles at ang kabayang worldwide ay ‘di titigil upang manaig ang katarungan at ka22hanan.{Ang buhay ng mga maimpluwensya’t ganid ay parang pelikula lang ‘yan sa umpisa laging panalo subali’t sa pagwawakas nito mananaig lagi ang katotohanan at ang mga bida, mabuhay ang sambayanang pilipinas).

    • techburns says:

      @Jeff O. M. “Ang tanging laban ng mahihirap na mamamayan ay kung gano kalakas ang kaso na kung minsan kahit singliwanag na ng sikat ng araw ang ipinaglalaban ay natatalo pa rin.” Kaw naman jeff parang di mo naintindihan sinasabi ko. Meron bang word na PALAGI sa komento ko. ang sabi ko “KUNG MINSAN” kahit basahin mo ulit yun, 3 times ko sinabi “KUNG MINSAN”. dapat nga ang sinabi ko pa e “kadalasan”.

      Pero sang ayon ako sa mga sinabi mo. walang dapat pagtalunan, There is strength in numbers sabi nga nila. mabisang paraan ang pagsasamasama.

  39. Elena Lemi says:

    SATURDAY, MARCH 10, 2012

    An Open Letter to Sister Flory Basa

    Last night, I posted in an online Inquirer article an open letter to Sister Flory Basa, aunt of Cristina Roco Corona. Almost as soon as hit the Save button, comments poured in, and people started sharing and re-posting the letter in different blogs and sharing sites. I even found a Cebuano translation of the letter just today. Although there were a few negative reactions, majority of those who commented were very supportive. I guess a lot of people share the same sentiments as I have.

    I am sharing the letter in its original form, and some of the links to sites where it has been re-posted so you would be able to read both the good and not so good reactions.

    Dear Sister Flory,

    I almost gave up on the impeachment process. I thought it was going nowhere. The defense team was succeeding in their suppression of evidences. The prosecution was fumbling all over the place. Some Senator-Judges were openly showing their dogged resolve to literally look the other way as the impeached pretender to the position of Chief Justice trampled on the very basic tenets of integrity and honesty. Like you, I had left it to the Good Lord to do justice in His own time.

    But then your family, most especially you, came along. God indeed works in mysterious ways! The lawyers of Mr Corona and their misguided followers have done and will continue to do everything to discredit you, short of calling you a lying senile and disgruntled relative who wants more money. I saw your interview on TV, and you have that serenity about you. It is a peace of mind and soul that only true forgiveness can bring about. But you also have that resoluteness in your voice – firm, truthful and honest. You said charity made you forgive the Coronas, but truth and justice compels you to speak up and let the people confront the truth about Mr Renato Corona.

    God has not only been good to you, He has shown even more compassion to us the Filipino people. While a lot of people your age would have been beset with illnesses of both body and mind, you have been blest with good health and a mind still so sharp and lucid. It is not so for no reason, I am sure. When the battle seemed lost, you came forth like a shining star to remind us not to lose hope. God allowed you to outlive your siblings so that the truth may be proclaimed in all its brutal glory, and not in the convoluted version being peddled to us by those who seek to block our nation’s search for justice.

    Thank you for your courage in proclaiming the truth. Mr Corona might have succeeded in having his character flaws overlooked by the Judicial and Bar Council when he was planted by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo in the Supreme Court. He might have pushed his luck too far when he got his minions in the SC to legitimize his midnight appointment. I do not think he will be able to shut out the flames of truth that you now so resolutely hold in your hands. While they have everything to lose and will do anything and everything to cover up their lies, you only have your faith in God and his abiding fidelity to his promise that His justice will be supreme over all human frailties.

    If it is not too much to ask, we will be forever grateful if you will do us a great favour – please take the witness stand. Please tell this nation how this man who claims the exalted position of Chief Justice as his unalienable right has done injustice to his own kin for more than 30 years. Please tell our Senators, who have been vested by our sovereign will with power in order to protect our nation’s interest, how the same power when wielded by someone who do not have the probity, integrity and moral uprightness not to be drowned by it can abuse the same to inflict harm on the very people he is supposed to serve and protect. You, who are old and weak, you whose only weapon is the truth, can teach our power-tripping Senators a most valuable lesson in humility and fairness.

    I know it might be too much to ask from a frail, 90 year old servant of the Lord. But the stakes are too high – our future and those of the generations to come. If we allow this travesty to pass, we would have sold our souls to the devil. What are we teaching to our children? That as long as you can justify it in the rules of court, it is okay to be to be dishonest? That it is okay to do wrong as long as you can win it in court? That it is okay to do away with morals and the sense of what is right and what is wrong as long as there are good lawyers that you can pay to twist the facts and suppress the truth? Is this what we want for our country? Please say it isn’t so Sister Flory. For your family’s and for our country’s sake, please say it isn’t so.

    And before I end this rather long letter, I would like to assure you that in case you do decide to take the witness stand and if Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago dare try to scare you off with her histrionics and self-serving plaudits to her perceived superior intelligence, and God forbids that something bad happens to you, I will march on the street even if I should do it by my lonesome self, and demand that God open up the ocean and swallow the entire Senate and everyone else who have dragged this country into the dark abyss.God is with you. We are with you. All right thinking Filipinos should be with you. Let us not stay in the dark. You have the light. Lead us to our redemption as a nation. God Bless you Sister Flory.

    Sincerely,

    Den

    PLEASE PASS ON TO AS

    MANY AS YOU CAN…….

    • nic tolentino says:

      In our community, we proclaim a message of honesty.

      “Be honest.
      Even if others are not.
      Even others will not.
      Even if others cannot.”

      Proverbs 10:9 ” He who walks honestly walks securely.”

      May Jesus live in our hearts, forever! To God be the glory!

  40. Leona says:

    The news is that the defense team will go on a truce during the Lenten week. I thought that they don’t only have no respect for the truth but also none for the law, and now they will announce that they go on truce to make the public believe they are God-fearing bastards. 73% of the people per poll survey don’t believe them.
    What more evidence can they present? It will just add up more pack of lies from them and their client.

    They are banking the senators will acquit their client. The truth is that Karma will come to all of them. Soon if not very soon, one way or the other, here and now or hereafter.

    They must be disciples of Ms. Folly.

    Mercy or punishment to them all.

    • JiroArturo says:

      @Leona

      Forwarding a joke intended for the Senators in the Phil who are running for re-election and to those Pinoys who will vote in 2013.
      While walking down the street one day a Corrupt Senator(that may be redundant) was tragically hit by a car and died.
      His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.
      “Welcome to heaven,” says St. Peter. “Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we’re not sure what to do with you.”
      “No problem, just let me in,” says the Senator.
      “Well, I’d like to, but I have orders from the higher ups. What we’ll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.”
      “Really?, I’ve made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,” says the Senator.
      “I’m sorry, but we have our rules.”
      And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.
      The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course.
      In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends
      and other politicians who had worked with him.
      Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake
      his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the
      expense of the people.
      They played a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and the finest champagne.
      Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who is having a good time dancing and telling jokes.
      They are all having such a good time that before the Senator realizes it,
      it is time to go.
      Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises.
      The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens in heaven where St.
      Peter is waiting for him, “Now it’s time to visit heaven…
      So, 24 hours passed with the Senator joining a group of contented souls
      moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time
      and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.
      “Well, then, you’ve spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.”
      The Senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: “Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.”
      So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell…
      Now the doors of the elevator open and he’s in the middle of a barren
      land covered with waste and garbage.
      He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls to the ground.
      The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulders.
      “I don’t understand,” stammers the Senator. “Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there’s just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?”
      The devil smiles at him and says,
      “Yesterday we were campaigning,
      Today, you voted..”

      Vote wisely in 2013

  41. gb says:

    wag tigilan ang article na ito…. hanggat walang verdict, di tayo sigurado kung GUILTY ang ihahatol. Let us pray this holy week, THE WILL OF THE LORD BE DONE… HIS PEOPLE ARE CRYING FOR MERCY AND JUSTICE…Let us be vigilant umaasa ang defense na magsasawa tayo at manlalamig para di na pagisipan at pagusapan ang kabulastugan ni Thief Renato… Wag tayong bibitiw sa isyu na ito…

  42. Yvonne says:

    I don’t know if anyone has posted this before:

    The address 208 Saint Katherine Drive, La Canada, Flintridge, CA 91011 that appears in Charina and Carla’s public records – this property is owned by a Revocable Trust in the name of Guerrero C & M Trust. The trustees are Cesar B. Guerrero and Miriam Roco Guerrero.

    Interesting.

    • Elena Lemi says:

      @Yvonne

      Miriam Roco is the sister of Cristina Corona. She was the one who sold the other half of the Marikina property to Vicente.
      Lahat kapamilya!

    • Gigi says:

      @Yvonne

      If this is true the Corona couple must really be awash with cash.

    • Eddie Boy says:

      Request preliminary title report from a title company through a realtor or escrow company that will show vesting of the property. From that information, you can verify the trust registration which state it is registered. The prelim report data has been compiled by the title company and it will show chain of title, names of prior owners and the years it was transferred. it will show how the property was acquired and if there are existing liens against the property.

    • Gigi says:

      Balikbayan has an entry (#276 A Curious Set of Transaction) in relation to this.

  43. jun 2 says:

    Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth, for being correct, for being you.
    Never apologize for being correct, or for being years ahead of your time. If you’re right you know it, speak your mind Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the truth.

    Mahatma Gandhi

    Posted by: Time To Wake Up.

  44. jun 2 says:

    San na kaya napunta ung perang nai-widraw nung dec. 2011, parang putol ang estorya non ehh, parang nalibang ang mga manonood ng IT. kung di un sa kanila, eh, nasaan na, sa anong account num na, at anong banko na,,, kasi parang kaya biniyak un sa tatlong account, gustong labahan ehh!!! nag ka impeachment, nabulilyaso!!! san na kaya un noh????

    • maria e. says:

      Nag open nang bagong account same bank. Actually nakatawa kasi tinanong si Corona bakit, sabi nya I lost trust with the bank tapos doon din diniposito:)

  45. AN INSIGHT ON CORRUPTION: (Views by Filipino expatriates living in Europe)
    In most developing countries today, corruption is widespread and a PART OF EVERY DAY LIFE. Their society has learned to live with it, even considering it, fatalistically ‘bahala na”, as an integral part of their culture. Not only public or official decisions – for instance, on the AWARD OF GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS or THE AMOUNT OF TAX DUE (SALN) – are bought and sold, but very often access to a public service or the exercise of a right, such as obtaining civil documents, also has to be paid for.
    In practice, it is the ENVIRONMENT in which public servants and private actors operate that CAUSES corruption. Whether it be in Benin, Bolivia, Morocco, Pakistan or the Philippines – five countries examined in a study by the UN Development Programme – corruption IS closely linked to the ‘type” of government involved.
    The link between POLITICAL and ECONOMIC POWER can be direct. There is ‘patrimonialism’, as in Morocco, where access to political power ensures access to economic privileges. The link can be indirect too, as in the Philippines, where political power (not only in the executive and legislative branches but more recently the uncovered scandal in the PHILIPPINE JUDICIARY BRANCH, wherein a favorable decision sought by competing litigants) CAN ALSO BE BOUGHT AND SOLD..
    CIVIL ACTION and THE MEDIA can help by denouncing corruption and putting pressure on all branches of the government. But the real impediments to the fight against corruption are as much the interests of the ‘politico-administrative apparatus’ as the FATALISM and IGNORANCE of the victims, which are maintained by a “culture of fear” nurtured by those who benefit from corruption. But before one can act, IT IS NECESSARY TO BE INFORMED FIRST. That is why careful research into the incidence of corruption and its effects is so important. Only on that basis can action by civil society of that country and the INTERNATIONAL AID AGENCIES be guided for appropriate actions.
    Personally, it is my fervent wish, along with the majority of Filipino people, that Chief Justice of Supreme Court, a purveyor of corruption in the Judiciary, BE CONVICTED AT ONCE inorder that this country move forward to a new phase of genuine JUDICIAL REFORMS ADVOCATED BY THE NEW REFORMIST PRESIDENTOF THE PHILIPPINES.
    The battle cry therefore will be – “TOGETHER WE UNITE TO FIGHT THIS SOCIAL CANCER THAT MAKES THE FILIPINO PEOPLE FOREVER POOR IN THE WORLD.”.
    (Opinion expressed by Peregrino Natividad. (Cum Laude, B.A. Central Philippine University; Asian Civilization, Australian University; Public Administration, University of Amsterdam, the Netherlands)

  46. abcguy says:

    there are more important things that our government and filipino citizens needs to focus on rather than this lousy impeachment which is a political propaganda and a waste of time and resources

    • raissa says:

      In other words, leave the CJ alone

    • rojam says:

      tell that to your boss corona, he is already utilizing government time and resources to defend himself. ask him to testify so that this will shorten the proceedings. what is it that he is afraid of?

      • tagaiyam says:

        ang hiram sa marami…… tatanong…..pag sinagot at hindi nila gusto….. nagsisinungalin……. sino ang nagsampa nang kaso……? bigyan ninyo nang as much time as the prosecutors ang defense na mag salita at mag bigay nang kanilang evidences……. sinasagot lang naman nila ang mga paratang…… at pinapakita ang mga maling procedures and violations of the constitution…….. sinasagot naman nila ang paratang…… yoon nga lang ang sagot at ang mga ginagawa nilang laying the foundation….. ay ayaw nang madlang people dahil naiinip sila……. stay focused….. watch every thing not just bit and pieces……. then decisions can be made fairly. Prosecution continues to fish out for evidences that they cannot even prove…… pagtinapos ninyo na ang mga articles ay hindi napatunayan…….. sasabihin naman ninyo…… dinaya….. unfair…..

        Look at it this way….. anumang sikap nang defense to prove the complains wrong…….. kala ba ninyo papayag siPNOY na siya ay matalo…….

        • techburns says:

          @tagaiyam: Sa palagay mo ba papayag si corona na matalo? Kung sakaling nagkapalit ng mga abogado, si cuevas et. al. sa prosekusyon at mga tongressman sa defense, palagay mo ba may pinagtatalunan pa tayo ngayon? talsik na si Corona… Buti na lang may kaso talaga dahil kung mahina ang kaso at mahina ang abogado… sa kangkungan ka pupulutin.

          parang sa mga lokal na korte, ang mga mayayaman, ipinagtatanggol ng mamahaling abogado kung minsan bayad pa pati judge, ang mga mahihirap na pilipino ipinagtatanggol ng PAO na kung minsan ay nabibili rin. Ang tanging laban ng mahihirap na mamamayan ay kung gano kalakas ang kaso na kung minsan kahit singliwanag na ng sikat ng araw ang ipinaglalaban ay natatalo pa rin.

    • Rasec says:

      @abcguy, I rather want Pnoy to spend his entire 4yrs left fighting the corruption and set the stage for the next leader of our country, Philippines will survive because of us OFW who works hard and send dollars and keep the economy afloat..Remit, remit, remit, until this corrupt people,rouge SC is gone …

      • priscila sereno -reyes says:

        @rasec,agree ako sa natitirang 4 years ni Pnoy ay linisin na lang niya ang m pamahalaan at sana naman ay katulad din niya ang susunod na president as of now parang si Binay lang ang malakas na kandidato for president , may nabasa pa ako na iyong political party ni Binay at ni Bong Revilla ay mag sasama na sana bago ma qualify si Binay na candidate for president sana i audit muna siya kasi mukhang big ? din ang yaman niya.
        sana may mag invistigate na rin kay BInay para kahit malayo pa ang election ay makilala na siya .

      • vander anievas says:

        458.4
        ako rin payag jan sa reasoning mo rasec. ok na sa akin ung malinis lang ni pnoy ang lahat ng sangay ng ating gobyerno. mantakin mong mula pa kay makoy ang kabulukang ito. na pinalala ng mga nagsisunod na mga corrupt.

        • fredicule says:

          @vander: Tama ka sa sinabi mong nagmula pa ang corruption kay Macoy. 18 yrs. old lang ako noong ibaba ang Martial Law, 58 na ako ngayon. Naisip ko noon na kung ang pinuno ay corrupt, ano na ang matututunan ng mga susunod pang generation kundi corruption din. Hindi nagkabula ang sapantaha ko. Kaya naman noong nawala na si Macoy, nakita nating naglabasan ang mga corrupt sa govierno sa panahon ni Cory at lumala na nga nang lumala hangga ngayon.
          Ang solusyon sana ay mag- Martial Law muli pero this time, iyong leader na hindi corrupt. Pero mahirap ding magtagumpay dahil napakarami na ring corrupt sa military, baka hindi makayanang suwetuhin ng matinong leader. But I think we have to take that chance, ang military naman ay sumusunod sa pinag-uutos lalo na kung ang mga ilalagay mo ay mga bata na wala pang muwang sa corruption, napipili naman iyan. Kung ang aasahan natin ay pagbabago sa kasalukuyang sistema ng govierno, magtagumpay man ay aabutin ng maraming taon. We have a saying that desperate times call for drastic measures. Kaya noong lumutang ang tsismis na PNoy will resort to a revolutionary government, medyo natuwa ako dahil matutupad yata ang aking theory.

    • duquemarino says:

      @abcguy Ang babaw naman ng kaisipan mo, everything that we do in search of truth is of equal importance. We all aspire for good governance and an upright judiciary. How can you say that the impeachment process is just a political propaganda and a waste of resources, the Thief Justice is given a day in the impeachment court. Nagkataon lang na maraming nadidiskubreng incriminating issues against him na hindi nakita ng prosecution dahil sa pagtutulungan ng mamamayan and this is politics in its true sense. Here is another definition of politics, para naman malaman mo na dapat ikaw ay involved din sa process.

      “Politics is the process by which groups make decisions. Although the term is generally applied to behavior within governments, politics is observed in all human (and many non-human) group interactions, including corporate, academic, and religious institutions. In general, politics can be considered the art of navigating through tensions among multiple “I”s and the “we” to achieve collectively desired ends.”

      Sift through all of Raissa’s blogs and the comments objectively, it will help you see the light.

      • Rasec says:

        @duquemarino.. Good point man,, another meaning of politics in Tagalog,,, Ang tuluyan kilos at galaw ng mamamayan sa kanyang lipunan….

    • ArielD says:

      I must, with respect, disagree. True, there are a great many important things we need to attend to. Few are as important as this trial.

      We have seen with our own eyes, and heard with our own ears, how evasive and duplicitous the Chief Justice of the Philippines has been all these years. This man, more than any other, represents the ideal of JUSTICE in our nation. He is the face of our justice system; when one is wronged, and seeks redress from the courts, it is this man’s principles and integrity the one perceives in every officer of the court he may meet. I for one would feel infinitely more confident in our Judiciary and the efforts to reform it if this man did not lead it.

      We may suffer bad presidents, clueless senators, avaricious representatives; unless provoked to People Power, with time and the next election, we have an opportunity to take direct action and remove them from office. Not so with the judiciary; unless retired or ejected through constitutional or legal channels, an unfit Judge or Justice may serve for decades, time enough to irretrievably erode our society’s trust in the Law.

      With all the revelations of the trial, I remain unconvinced that the Chief Justice should not be convicted. Though the trial is still ongoing, I doubt the ability of the defense to persuade me otherwise. More than any other official in government, as his hallowed and exalted position requires, the Chief Justice of the land must be absolutely, unquestionably ABOVE SUSPICION. This man, I believe, is not.

      • Defender says:

        @ArielD

        Agree. Could not have said it better. You verbalized what I would guess a lot of us have in mind.

    • kabayan2020 says:

      you mean hayaan na lang naming mangurakot ng mangurakot dyan sa pwesto si Corona? d namin sya titigilan hanggat nakakapit tuko sya dyan.. mas maganda pa nga kung mag resign na lang si corona at hayaan na lang nyang palitan sya ng mas deserving sa position nya. it doesn’t make sense na mag stay pa sya dyan dahil gumugulo lang lalo ang Pilipinas. nagtataka ako sa mga katulad nya masyadong greedy, at the end of your life, 4×8 ft lang naman kailangan mong lupa para mamahinga, bakit sobrang dami? sa sobrang kasakiman, napakapangit na legacy ang maiiwan nya sa mga kamag anak nya..

    • Ella Tovara says:

      I beg to disagree with you. Pnoy actually has a good strategy … start with the supreme court because every charge for the past administration will be brought to the supreme court and if it is a court full of corrupt justices and headed by a midnight appointee … then all these cases will be a waste of money, time and effort … so the best thing is clean the supreme court, clean the ombudsman, clean the Commission on Audit … the the rest wil follow.

      The impeachment is not a waste of time and resources … at least ngayon alam na lahat ng mga nag-iisip na Pilipino sa si Corona ay magnanakaw, sinungaling na pati academic records niya ay sinungaling, in short he is an animal and not fit to be a chief justice , actually not fit to be a Filipino.

    • jun 2 says:

      @abcguy

      sana, naman sinabi mo kung anong dapat unahin, at kung ano ang magandang sulusyon ang naiisip mo, nang me matutuhan naman kami sa iyo!!! kaw talaga oh, pero kung me binabayaran ka sa ganyang diskarte mo, pag husayan mo, sana makatulong yan sa iyo at sa pamilya mo!

    • manny says:

      @ abcguy,
      That ‘s the reasoning why we continue to be at this mess , and unable to get rid of this social cancer .. Why don’t you sir read and re-read comment above you of Mr. Peregrino Natividad.

      The main mandate why Pres. Pnoy was elected is to get rid of corruption in our government. That should be the focus. And it already started from the top , then lets deal with the corrupt ex-president so the rest in government
      will follow good governance. When this’s done those and more Filipinos blessed with resources after staying abroad will come and invest in our country.

    • PinoyConcerned888 says:

      No way….dapat sagutin lahat ni corona ang mga allegations sa kanya at kapag di nya nasagot, it proves that he is guilty. Napakarami nang doubt sa kanya ang taong bayan that he continually diversifiy. Sa mga sinasabi nya in public lalo lang syang nabubuking…di na nya maloloko ang taong bayan liban sa mangilan ngilan na kaalyado ni corona na ayaw makita ang malinaw na motibo ni corona. ginagamitan nya ng reverse psychology, mukhang sya yata ang may probema sa pag-iisip eh.

    • Elena Lemi says:

      @abcguy

      I agree that there are some important things the gov’t should tackle but have you ever think if the fake president didn’t appoint Corona to the SC, will we have impeachment? Before the 2010 election the fake president was already preparing for she knew there will be cases file against her.

      Be that it is a political propaganda, don’t you think it’s high time we clean up the mess of the past for a better Philippines? If you can answer me straight, I would like to hear your side.

    • maddog says:

      the more reason that it is the right thing to remove corona and the senators should do it now.

      in an environment full of corruption, everything will cost more than is necessary. government debt will rise and so will taxes. and that means its people has to pay more.

    • Kabalyero01 says:

      @abcguy

      as a taxpayer, I have Php 100 million reasons why CJ Corona must be impeached

      as a citizen, I am invoking my Constitutional right to engage myself in governance

      as a voter, I am exacting accountability from my chosen elected officials to pursue
      the conviction of CJ Corona through the senate tribunal

      as a member of this community of concerned Filipinos demanding Truth and Justice,
      I challenge you to open your heart and mind if Renato C. Corona is morally fit as
      Chief Justice and his presence at the SC will benefit the 108 million Filipinos until 2018?

      This present dispensation is mandated by 15M Filipinos to pursue its relentless campaign
      to weed out corrupt government officials.

      THAT IS A PRIORITY!

  47. Eddie Boy says:

    Everyone had seen or read the real estate forms posted in this forum which were duly notarized and recorded by the County Recorder of Placer County. Recording of public document is required under the laws of the State of California for it to become valid and enforceable. Grant Deed is the document that transfer title from seller to buyer or from grantor to grantee, Deed of Trust : In real estate in the United States, a trust deed or deed of trust is a deed wherein legal title in real property is transferred to a trustee, which holds it as security for a loan (debt) between a borrower and lender. The borrower is referred to as the trustor, while the lender is referred to as the beneficiary of the trust deed.. In case of loan default, the trustee will enforce the foreclosure of your property.
    Notice during the impeachment trial, Vicente bought the Marikina property from Cristina Corona, the sale was not recorded, there’s no transfer of title, they did not comply with the law, yet they believe Cuevas argument that the property is not owned by the Corona’s. Cuevas is not the law, there are processes to follow in real estate transactions under the law and if those are not followed, like the purchase of Charina’s property, the transaction is not legal. Legally, the Marikina property are still owned by the Corona’s. The sale and transfer was not recorded by government agency concern, the sale is only between seller and buyer, therefore it is not legally enforceable. Senators actually accepted Cuevas’s arguments without legal basis and law supporting his arguments.

    • JiroArturo says:

      @eddie boy Meron kang punto. Pero ang maghahatol kay Corona ay nagbubulagan at nagbibingihan. Meron na yan desisyon sa umpisa pa lang ng paglilitis. Kahit ano pang argumento at ebidensiya ang ipapalabas ng defense wala na rin saysay. Ewan ko na lang kung mabuksan ang dollar accounts na nagkakahalaga ng milyon-milyon dollars.

      • Eddie Boy says:

        If and when Corona disclaim his dollar accounts and declare that those are deposited in trust for his daughters residing in the US, US tax laws are very strict on undeclared foreign assets, whether cash or real estate. When you file your federal income tax return, a question must be answered regarding this matter. Like the SALN, you sign it, you own it.

        • raissa says:

          Pls provide a link citing this law.

          thanks.

          • Eddie Boy says:

            http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=254501,00.html

            Have a nice day!

          • Eddie Boy says:

            Hiding income offshore Over the years, numerous individuals have been identified as evading U.S. taxes by hiding income in offshore banks, brokerage accounts or nominee entities and then using debit cards, credit cards or wire transfers to access the funds. Others have employed foreign trusts, employee-leasing schemes, private annuities or insurance plans for the same purpose.

            The IRS uses information gained from its investigations to pursue taxpayers with undeclared accounts, as well as the banks and bankers suspected of helping clients hide their assets overseas. The IRS works closely with the Department of Justice to prosecute tax evasion cases.
            While there are legitimate reasons for maintaining financial accounts abroad, there are reporting requirements that need to be fulfilled. U.S. taxpayers who maintain such accounts and who do not comply with reporting and disclosure requirements are breaking the law and risk significant penalties and fines, as well as the possibility of criminal prosecution.

            http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=254501,00.html

            • jfd says:

              @Eddie Boy

              May I add that in the same irs.gov website one can find Form 3949-A (Information Referral) which any person could fill out inconspicuously to report to the IRS any suspected violation of the U.S. tax law.

              More power to the OPM movement.

              • netty says:

                Hurt him on the jugular that is reporting the daughters hidden income from the IRS. Even Al Capone went down in history because of this. I am positive this will knock him out before you know it. Go na, now na!

              • duquemarino says:

                @netty You are perfectly right. If the impeachment court would do otherwise, Taxman (woman) Kim Henares has probably enough solid evidences to file tax evasion against the Crown. Sa dami ng information na naibahagi ng mamamayan ng Cyber Plaza Miranda na mula sa iba’t-ibang sektor ng lipunan, all she has to do is connect the dots.

                Remember this, “The jury that convicted Capone consisted almost entirely of rural, white men. Among them, a retired hardware dealer, a country storekeeper and a farmer. Judge Wilkerson substituted this jury for the original jury to prevent tampering. (CHS DN 97016)”

                Blessed Easter to all of us!!!!!

        • techburns says:

          I don’t think Corona does not know this. Maybe this is why the dollar accounts are not open yet. I am curious of what the defense could come up with.

          We can’t underestimate the defense pero sa dami ng matang nakatingin, mahihirapan sila.

          Onward Cyber Plaza Miranda

  48. erick says:

    Para sa mga kababayan worldwide, eto po magandang reference to access relevant information inside the SC. for example po yung TRO sa dollar account http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprudence/2012/february2012/200238-TRO.pdf

    Also you can enter Senator-judge’s name or any “name” sa search box para malaman po kung sinu-sino ang may pending case(s) sa supreme court. http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/search/index.php?cx=011534559016285832868%3A3vlgertfrly&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=miriam+defensor+santiago&button=SEARCH

    Don’t worry these are all public records. Ngayon ko lang po toh nalaman and its very informative.

    Enjoy!

    • Mafe says:

      Thank you erick!

    • netty says:

      Aba eh, meron na palang ganitong relevant information accessible sa madlang pipol. Can I present my unsolicited advice? Since next year is another election year, which I am not sure what government level, pwede rin sigurong gumawa ng mga relevant information din tungkol sa mga tatakbong representaives/politicians about their propagandas/ performances/ who voted for this and that bills, kagaya nong DOH …Know your Meat program… Eto naman Know your Representatives program which can also be accessible to even smaller barrios /barangays to encourage poor voters to scrutinize more on the merits of the running politicians so they are not only choosing based on popularity of families /or being actors. That way they would start to become educated, well informed and enlightened voters, hopefully. Matuwid na daan na po.

  49. Jegs says:

    If she was in Florida with Carla from 2002 – 2006, she could have saved a lot. Physical therapy assistantship programs give out around $40k per year (14% tax). She could have easily qualified given her caliber education. Add in any additional passive income. And I suppose she has no dependents at that time yet.

    $3000 tutorial per month is very doable, Ang advantage nga niya may training sya from pisay and up, so she can tutor subjects beyond PT. Sometimes 3 to 4 students per session yan, depending on the topic. Eto din raket ng sister ko when she was in grad school (from pisay and up din) at sabi nya conservative estimate na daw ang $3k per month. Pag crunch or finals month mas malaki kita. May iba pang sources of passive income like ebay and other part time jobs beyond the academic calendar.

    This just shows she could have actually saved that amount by accumulating passive income during her student years, where taxes imposed are lenient. Add in whatever savings she might have from 2006 to 2008 as a full time physical therapist.

    With regards to the acquisition of properties, it can really happen that there are “deals you don’t want to pass up”, where you must have someone act in your behalf – which needs to be formalized. The formalities though can be a bit late (trip to consul, etc) like what happened to my sister in Texas who had to go to California to get an SPA to allow the selling of her car to a family friend. Although the car and money changed hands already, the formal deed came in late. With regards to where they got the COH for those payments, I presume the BGEI account and it won’t reflect on the CJ’s since it was the daughter who eventually replenished it.

    • suplada says:

      Ha Ha Ha! Sa mga naghahanap ng FICTION, Eto yon. Nandito ang FICTION.

      SIGURO tutorial. SIGURO pera ng BGEI. SIGURO Physical therapy assistantship programs. SIGURO na late lang yung SPA kasi may magandang deal SIGURO.

      Ang lakas ng imagination mo.

      • netty says:

        pwera supla hane! parang ganun na nga yun, fix -yun fix- that baka madiskobre na naman ni Raissa.;))

        • Vibora says:

          @netty, are you from the town where Buruwisan is located? just curious hane, maybe we have something in common.

          • netty says:

            Buruwisan Falls, Laguna .I googled it. Oh,I would love that place but I am not a local there. kABAYAN is my province mate but now I am happily transplanted in the Land of the Braves…bbrrr TY for asking… TC..

    • johnny lin says:

      What do you mean by tutorial. She did not have PT license in Florida, she did not have enough credentials to qualify as PT graduate under US standard. Who is going to accept her as a teacher? Who in their right mind is going to get PT lessons privately like piano or math lessons from an unproven transient in Tampa? Impossible.

      What did your sister teach?

      if she has 4 students per session she makes $3000 a month at $25- 50 per hourly session that would be $1400 maximum income a week, 7 days a week with same students. Who is the student getting tutorial doing it everyday? How many sessions did she have in one day? Did she have license doing that if she has even one session a day? She would not have lasted few months running an illegal school if she did it everyday with many sessions.

      Everyone has the ability to have passive income, but not everybody is successful in saving lots of money in a very short period. From Corona himself, the only explanation for her daughter’s source of income was “double job”. So much for your speculation in reality for Charina. In theory, its possible to save by beating your ass to work 24/7/365. In reality, impossible.

      • Jegs says:

        @Johnny Lin apparently ayaw mag work ng reply button. Charina stayed in Florida with Carla for 4 years to get additional education so that she can be granted license. PT assistantship programs give out ~$40k per year less 14% tax lang. Savings could be in order since Carla has been there early on and could have buffered some of her expenses, especially rent which can take up most of her allowance.

        Schools provide tutorial opportunities to augment student incomes. Her academic credibility will surely suffice for her to teach undergraduate students on their areas of difficulties. This is what my sister (who is also from Pisay and UP) did when she took her graduate studies, teaching basic mathematics and sciences. Earnings here directly go into savings (the ballpark figure I stated below came from my sister) and it’s very feasible to earn that amount. Call it extraordinary if you may but don’t underestimate the academic credentials of some people who can translate it into money.

        • Elena Lemi says:

          @Jegs

          Let’s just say you’re right. Then why don’t Carla & Charina show us proofs how much they had earned so there will be no arguments regarding this matter. If the defense has it they would have paraded it in front of the media. Try convince me!

          • Jegs says:

            Let’s wait and see. If you may have noticed the defense has been presenting merits of their case inside the impeachment court only. If ever these accusations will be brought up by the prosecution, then they will surely answer this at the right venue. For now we are talking about the lives of private citizens which really has no bearing for now in the articles charged against the CJ.

            • ArielD says:

              It is NOT in the interest of the defense to allow this to come up in the trial, and thus form part of the record. Cries of “irrelevant your honoeur!!!” will meet any attempt by the prosecution to bring it up.

              Private citizens have the right to, well, their privacy… unless the CJ and the members of his family truly have nothing to hide as he has claimed, I don’t see them volunteering any kind of testimony, much less documentary evidence, that would tend to help the prosecution.

              There are ways, however, of using this information to the prosecution’s advantage… and that’s where cleverness and legal skill on the part of the prosecution team during rebuttal will play a huge part. In terms of chess, ill-advised moves on the part of the defense have exposed their king to a possible checkmate (insofar as the PUBLIC’S perception of the trial is concerned – the judges may have a different opinion), but such openings are easily squandered by passive or unskilled players.

              Let’s hope that our Representatives proves equal to the task.

              • fredicule says:

                Yes, but TJ is not a private citizen, he is a public servant and he accepted it to be, even in the middle of the night from a Midnight Runner( Shenzhen, China remember?) and he dragged along with him his daughters and planned to do the same to his wife (will testify daw which I did not believe for a second just like the dollar accounts that he will not surely expose) but backtracked when criticized first but no other than Rene Saguisag. So Charina cannot have a privacy right because she was a willing accomplice.

              • kabayan2020 says:

                well in this game, the king corona sacrifices everything that doesnt make sense for his family. nag start yung problema nya nung tanggapin nya ang midnight appointment nya na walang kadelikadeza. yan ang mahirap sa pinilit, lalong nagkapalipilipit.
                now, kung nag let go na lang sya nung start ng impeachment d sana retired na lang sya ngayon at nagpapakasarap s mga nanakaw nya.. sus, obvious na obvious na marami syang hindi maipaliwananag na yaman.. yung dollar pa lang napakalaking question mark na!

              • PinoyConcerned888 says:

                Sa lakas ng kompyansa nya sa mga dekampanilya nyang mga defense team, pro bono kuno, lalong kumapal ang pagmumukha nya. Nag-pretend syang di makikita ng tao ang mga kasinungalingan nya at aayon sa kanya ang batas. Di nya akalain na maraming concerned citizen na nagmamatsag sa kanya at kahit na baluktutin nya ang batas. Ang taong bayan ang magpapanipis ng kanyang mukha dahil sa kahihiyan

            • austin tx says:

              TJ’s dummies should know what the risks of being used are because they are being rewarded for taking those risks.

              The evidence being revealed in this article and others are still relevant despite what the defense are saying:

              “While the overrated Enrile heartily plays his role, the senators should never lose sight of the fact that impeachment is essentially political (read policy making). And the policy question of the moment that is of extraordinary importance is whether it is wise for the senators as policymakers to now pave the way for the appointment of a new chief justice to be at the helm of an institution that is so invested with awesome but delicate State powers. They could arrive at this critical decision not solely on the basis of evidence ruled admissible by Judge Enrile but also on other facts and information they have judged to be reliable, justifiable, truthful and relevant to their policy goal.”

              That paragraph was taken from:
              Judicializing the Corona impeachment diminishes Senate role
              Written on February 24, 2012 by Abe N. Margallo

        • johnny lin says:

          I am not belittling capacity of Charina but the credentials of your sister are different compared to hers, She is in graduate school probably her BS degree is related to math and sciences. If you noticed I placed math above as an example. Students in US under tutorial are not that dumb either. Besides Charina career needed internship in rehab center to have clinical experience and job was physical in nature unlike your sister in school full time.

          Charina was denied licensure in Nevada in 2002. what are the possibilities she was denied and the reason she applied. She applied there instead of going to Tampa directly because Nevada has lax requirement for licensure. She was denied because she failed exam, probably not, or else she wont be put on public record but most probably her credentials or grades were poor.

          Do you know why states publish rejections or suspensions for licensure? if she applies in other states the PT boards in those states could inqquire from Nevada what is their reason for denial which reason they could use as reference instead of going thru all the rigors of interviewing or giving exam to applicant to save their time.

          And students who are determined to get license since financial support is not a problem, they concentrate on their studies rather than trying to earn extra money. That is an attitude of most Filipinos needing a license before they could earn good income.

          • Jegs says:

            An attribute for non-issuance of license is the curriculum of the school of origin as approved by the board. Most of the time those who want to practice outside really need additional credentials for them to be allowed to practice. It’s not because of poor grades but a difference in the curriculum system. My sister as well had to go through the same thing where even her graduate units in UP were not considered and she had to start from scratch as well. Extra money can still be earned while studying. Have you studied the course outline of PT in UP Manila and the extensive math and science training in Pisay? For sure she can handle the basics with ease.

            • simplify1 says:

              jeffrey john, este jegs: curious lang ako kung ano ang masters ni charina na sinasabi mong graduate studies na tinapos nya…sa pilipinas ba eto kinuha? I respect your pride of your schools… but once someone migrates to north america, his or her school credentials will only be at par with someone graduating from other universities in manila. The “social benefits” of graduating from prestigious schools in the philippines no longer exist in a foreign land. Pare pareho na tayo dito, abilidad na ang labanan dito….

        • techburns says:

          @Jeg Do you know Charina personally? if not, then your argument is useless. Everyone knows it’s possible to some people, though to most people it’s improbable. Pedro’s is not the same as Juan. Who knows, she might have won in vegas casino or invested in stocks or made big deals on selling stuff… the possibilities are endless, but, can anyone give proof that she did this and that to amass wealth? Only Charina can give proof that she can.

          We can only analyze what facts we have, and they are all posted right here.
          The Facts speak for themselves loud and clear. If she can really afford these two properties, the purchase could have been done in unquestionable manner.

        • kabayan2020 says:

          jegs, ilabas na lang nya yung 1040 nya.. tsaka 1040 ng sister mo.. dami pang satsat eh.. hanggat wala kang ebidensya, puro theory lang yang sinasabi mo. ika nga ni cuevas HEARSAY! anybody can say something..

        • pelang says:

          you seem to very well know her. are you related to her at nag gagalaiti ka sa pagtatanggol sa kanya. if every PT practice what she did, wala nang pulubi sa mundo.

    • Elio Madama says:

      What Mrs. Maria Charina Corona and her sister Carla need to do is very, very simple.
      To clean their names and his father’s name is to SHOW THEIR INCOME TAXES RETURNS IN THE USA.
      And you know very well that even money “made under the table” must show in the taxes.
      Florida may have low taxes, but federal taxes are the same in the whole USA.
      How about if they also show copy of the money transferred from USA to Manila to pay for the properties?
      How about the maintenance fees on the four properties in Manila.
      Remember, Mrs. Carla and husband “invested” in Manila UN MILLION DOLLARS and few years.
      Of course is possible, why not?
      But the best is to prove it with the tax returns.
      Then, will be the end of the problem.

    • techburns says:

      we do not say it’s Impossible. It is always possible given luck and hard work, but analyzing the circumstances and the facts like,
      1. Hubby’s waiver
      2. Buying 2 expensive properties 11 days apart
      3. having a wealthy and influential father,
      4. having license approved in Dec. 2006, basically 2007 na yun.
      5. well you will have to read all blogs written about this to enumerate everything. tinatamad na ko mag-enumerate

      We do not know how she did it. she might have won a lottery, had noodles 3 times a day or whatever. She might have invested in stocks and had doubled her money, well, only she can tell.

      But given the facts, common sense tells me, kay TJ nato yung McKinley. Everyone who knows how to read can figure that out. The downpayment for the CA property could’ve been also be provided by TJ, hence, the hubby’s waiver.

      • pelang says:

        oh yes, as in nagdildil ng asin araw araw to save 200K Dollars. LOL! what johnny lin said was true. do you think a licensed PT would allow himself to compete with an unlicensed one? Don’t you even dare. Her neighbors would know if there are patients, or students who would come to her house for lessons or physical therapeutic treatment or whatever. ang takot lang niya isumbong sa IRS. magiging talk of the town siya dahil ang pasyente niya magyayabang na sa kaniya mura lang ang singil in comparison to a licensed one. lalo namang hindi siya pwedeng maningil ng mas mahal kesa doon sa me license dahil kung kasing mahal ang singil niya kesa doon sa licensed PT doon na lang sila pupunta sa Licensed PT, wala pang sabit. . like here in germany, everyone who is on skillpower business (like builders or butchers, bakers etc. has special master license which they earn hard by studying and becoming a master of any trade and only these are allowed to open up business of trade.. so kung ang isang manggugupit na merong salon nalaman niyang meron kumukompetensiya sa kanya na walang license to do so, hindi registered na merong business, nagse-service sa mga kakilala diyan sa may area nila, ay pwede niyang ireklamo dahil kinukumpentensiyahan siya, siya nagbabayad ng tax, at meron pang license. Malaki ang magiging parusa sa iyo ng IRS fine at more fine . at kung katulad pa ni Charina na foreigner siya, kahit pa meron siyang green card o naturalized citizen pa siya, baka ma deport pa siya. it maybe different in the USA , pero ang principle ng mga developed countries ay pare-pareho. kaya nga sila maunlad.

        • techburns says:

          simple lang ang point ko dito. may magsyota, natulog sa isang kwarto. kinaumagahan syempre iisipin mo nagmilagro,
          pero sasabihin nila nag-tongits lang sila magdamag.

          Siyempre hindi ka maniniwala. Pero ang tanong nakita mo ba? (logic says ano ba gagawin ng babae at lalaki sa loob ng kwarto na silang dalawa lang) Pero ang sabi nga nila nag-tong-its lang sila eh, tas pakita pa sa yo may baraha na ginamit. LOL

          Para sa karamihan sapat na yung magkasamang natulog yung magsyota sa isang kwarto na silang dalawa lang.
          Sapat na ang ebidensya kay TJ para sa atin, pero hindi dito ang labanan. Magaling defense team nya…. kaya nilang patunayan (at walang duda) na nag-tong its lang yung magsyota. LOL
          Kaya tuloy natin suportahan si Mam raissa at lahat ng contributors hanggang maihayag ang buong katotohanan.

  50. erick says:

    Anybody here have access sa Phil stock exchange or broker-dealer or other investment entities or share/partnership sa corporation? kc kung mahilig ang mga coronas mag-invest sa real estate i’m pretty sure meron din cla sa money market and other businesses.

  51. Mafe says:

    Hey everyone, Raissa’s latest post is out. OMG is all I can say!

  52. Den says:

    Dear Fellow Netizens of Plaza Miranda,

    Do not let your guards down! It is still a long way to go before the trial resumes. Renato Corona will not relent. He will not resign, and he will not take a leave of absence. He, and his gang of liars, err.., lawyers, are too callous and proud to surrender. But as long as our online sleuths keep on digging them damn dirt from under Corona’s nose, Corona and his gang will never rest from trying to catch up with their own lies.

    Keep the faith! With the trial suspended, our countrymen will look to this blog more and more in their search for truth. A star will shine brightest when the night is at its darkest. The more they suppress the truth, the more it will shine forth with a light that will render them blind.

    March on! Victory will not be at the hands of the Senate whose members have betrayed the people’s sovereign will. Victory will be by the collective will of the people. The cry for truth, justice and rectification will be so loud they will not be able to ignore it. The people will triumph and those against truth shall be cast away.

    Fight and never give up! For us, for our children, for our country and everything our ancestors fought and died for.

  53. rey reyes says:

    DEAR RAISSA,

    WILL YOU PLEASE CHECK THAT PROPERTY IN CALIFORNIA? THEY MIGHT GET A LOAN FOR 30 YEARS BUT AFTER FEW MONTHS THEY PAID IN FULL.

    WHAT DO U THIN RAISSA.? POSSIBLE NAG LOAN KUNWARI THEN AFTER FEW MONTHS BINAYARAN NG BUO ANG PROPERTY.

    • JiroArturo says:

      @rey reyes, Pwede ba huwag mo ng bigyan ng ibang trabaho si Raissa. Hindi naman siya nasa California para i-confirm lahat ang papeles doon sa condo ni Charina. Ikaw na lang kaya ang mag volunteer. Makakatulong ka pa sa kanya para mahalungkat pa ang ibang katotohanan.

      • Anton says:

        Nagalit ang mama, ha ha Oo nga naman.

      • NorCaLLady... says:

        ..ahihihihi… ;))

      • netty says:

        hahha, pardon pls, @ JIRO ;):) my husband’s namesake but mine they say is Mr Fix it otherwise Macgyver , so your comment @RR is kinda hilarious.

        • JiroArturo says:

          @netty Pakiulit nga ang sinabi ko kay @RR. Hindi ko na matandaan sa dami ng mga comments ko.

          • netty says:

            It is ok, nagulo pa kita., just saying naaliw mo ako sa comment mo above on this block for personal reasons. Yes delegation of tasks is positive for this forum is also a collective effort to gather WMD so to speak against the corrupt(S). cheers ,, be safe on your Holydays.

    • Eddie Boy says:

      You can check with Placer County recorder if the mortgage company recorded a reconveyance to Charina. Or you can check with First American Title Company and talk to any Title Officer if the mortgage lien has been cleared.

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