Dear Justice Assistant Secretary Sy: If cyber adultery doesn’t exist, why did you put it in the Cybercrime Law?

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By Raïssa Robles

cyber adulteryLast October 9, 2012, Justice Assistant Secretary Geronimo Sy went out of his way to mention me by name in his media briefing about the Cybercrime Prevention Act; he also mentioned what I said about cyber adultery.

Before that briefing, I’d written a piece called “The Cybercrime Law was brought to you by 7 senators & 12 congressmen”. Here’s the link to my article where I criticized  Section 6 of the Cybercrime Prevention Act which not only CRAMMED the entire Penal Code and all special laws within the ambit of the Cybercrime Law. It also raised the punishment one degree higher.

Here is the section I questioned:

SEC. 6. All crimes defined and penalized by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws, if committed by, through and with the use of information and communications technologies shall be covered by the relevant provisions of this Act: Provided, That the penalty to be imposed shall be one (1) degree higher than that provided for by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws, as the case may be.

In addition, the next section makes the accused liable as well for violating the present Penal Code:

SEC. 7. Liability under Other Laws. — A prosecution under this Act shall be without prejudice to any liability for violation of any provision of the Revised Penal Code, as amended, or special laws.

In that article, I had interviewed Congressman Teddy Casiño – who had voted “yes” to the House version of the Cybercrime Law. I told him my apprehension about the law and gave him the crime of adultery as an example. Here’s what I wrote:

“For instance, I told him (Casiño), if a woman commits adultery using a computer, she would be guilty of a cybercrime and her penalty would be one degree higher.”

To use my previous example of the case of the woman accused of adultery, because of Section 6, if a married woman’s e-mail to her lover were submitted as evidence, her penalty if convicted automatically becomes one degree higher.”

This is what Assec Sy said in his lengthy October briefing about what I wrote:

To quote Assec Sy in this video:

“Pause for a minute. And with all due respect to Raissa, can you help me think of a scenario when adultery can be committed with a – through the computer.

I had a nightmare last night. I said, how can I answer this provision. In what instance can I commit adultery over a computer.

Seriously, I can’t think of any situation where adultery can be committed through a –  with a computer, maybe. But not through a computer. OK?

But the whole point is, we have to be very careful of this. I mean as I said I respect Raissa and all of that, but, the question is, she might have been confusing the mode of proving adultery – electronic evidence – e-mail – versus the fact of adultery.

Two separate things. No two separate prosecutions. Definitely no higher cyber-adultery. No higher cyber-adultery, definitely. I can say that.

There is in law what we call the factum probandum and factum probans. For the lawyers here, two different things. Sounds like, looks similar, totally different.

So with all due respect, let’s be careful in blogging because when lay person reads it, it creates another chilling effect or whatever it’s called. Let’s have a seasoned debate, a very clear debate on what it’s all about. So far, so good?

Good.”

Assec Sy is probably busy right now feverishly trying to prepare explanations for why there’s no “chilling effect” to the multitudes who’ve expressed outrage about the cybercrime law (which seems to be primarily Sy’s handiwork). But at any rate, I will now belatedly answer his remarks.

Dear Atty Sy, if cyber adultery doesn’t exist, why is it listed?

Let’s just assume, as Sy claims, that one cannot commit adultery using a computer or any other technological device.

If this is the case, then why is the crime of adultery even included in the Cybercrime Prevention Act?

Besides adultery, what other crimes in our Penal Code and special laws cannot be committed “by, through and with the use of information and communications technologies?” Who is supposed to sift through these hundreds of laws to find out?

Remember, the entire Penal Code and all special laws were CRAMMED into the Cybercrime Law through Section 6. It states that -

“All crimes defined and penalized by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws, if committed by, through and with the use of information and communications technologies shall be covered.”

Remember, it was Assec Sy himself who had drafted the Cybercrime Prevention Act, which the senators virtually adopted as theirs except for some insertions such as Senator Vicente Sotto’s online libel.

Under the principle of statutory construction, when a section states “all crimes”, it means all crimes without exception, for as long as these are “committed by, through and with the use of information and communications technologies.”

Who is now to determine whether a certain crime cannot be “committed by, through and with the use of information and communications technologies?”

This, I believe, is what the make the present Cybercrime Law so dangerous because it is so vague and so broad in scope. It leaves too much to court interpretation. One highly-placed official I talked to calls Assec Sy a “favorite fascist.” It gives an idea of the mindset the Cybercrime Prevention Law comes from.

That’s why it will give the average law-abiding Filipino nightmares.

Does cyber adultery exist?

The advent of social networking sites and chat rooms on the Internet has opened up a new channel for committing adultery. In the year 2000, Famiglia Cristiana – a magazine that states the Vatican line – first sounded the alarm against “cyber adultery”:

 

cyber adultery

In recent years, there emerged in developed countries – where computer penetration is high – the growing problem of men and women taking on virtual lovers.

Here is an interesting article on it, about a married man who has taken on an “online wife” in a virtual world – where the players number in the millions – through an Internet game called “Second Life”:

It’s Sunday morning at 6AM, and Dutch Hoorenbeek rolls out of bed to check on his strip club and do some renovations to an outside party deck. He then fires several tenants in his mall for not paying rent, signs up four new ones, and transports to his office to spend some time with his wife, Tenaj Jackelope.

The thing is, in real life, Dutch Hoorenbeek is actually Ric Hoogestraat, a call-center operator making $14 an hour. He’s also married to Sue Hoogestraat, not Tenaj Jackelope.

Confusing? It should be. Turns out that Ric and Sue’s marriage is on the rocks. She contends that he spends more time online in Second Life, a virtual universe currently home to 30 million players, with his online wife. Sue spends her days in front of the television, while Ric is in the other room running a virtual night club and consorting with his online wife, sometimes for as long as 14 hours at a time on weekends.

To read the rest of the article, click on this link.

Below is a teaser video about “Second Life”:

Here’s another one about cyber adultery -

The Sydney Morning Herald [Australia] reports that “virtual adultery” is a new threat to marriages. Until recently, adultery has been a sin of the flesh. Temptation arrives, chemistry sizzles and before long the unfaithful spouse is spending stolen nights in cheap hotels. Now there is a new threat: the virtual affair. While some argue online affairs aren’t real, research shows some spouses take them as seriously as the offline variety – and they’re becoming a gateway to divorce.

To read the rest of the article, click on this link.

The US military was concerned enough to post the following on its website:

Cyber affairs — are they the new adultery?

By Michelle Owens/Army Flier

FORT RUCKER, Ala. (TRADOC News Service, Oct. 2, 2006) –

The Problem

With the availability of chat rooms and groups on Internet Web sites, the temptation to meet new people online increases, according to ChatCheaters.com, a Web site created to help couples struggling with Internet infidelity and how to work through the problems.

A Probe Ministries Internet article titled, “The Allure of Cyber-Relationships,” defines a cyber affair as “an intimate or sexually-explicit communication between a married person and someone other than their spouse that takes place on the Internet.”

Two-thirds of American attorneys say the Internet played a significant role in divorces, according to ChatCheaters.com.

Online relationships provide individuals with an outlet to tell secrets and express themselves to a stranger anonymously, while allowing for the creation of another persona, according to the Probe Ministries article.

Men often create a well-groomed, professional, athletic persona, while women create a thin, beautiful and adventurous alter ego. When online, people create fictitious, seemingly perfect personalities that are desirable to others to fill social and psychological needs, the article stated.

To read the rest of the article, click on this link.

So, Assec Sy, what do you think? Does cyber adultery exist?

Adultery under Philippine law

At the moment, Philippine law defines adultery this way:

“Adultery is committed by any married woman who shall have sexual intercourse with a man not her husband and by the man who has carnal knowledge of her, knowing her to be married, even if the marriage be subsequently declared void.”

Could not a smart lawyer argue in court that “sexual intercourse” in the Internet Age also means intercourse of a sexual nature between a married woman and a man, using a  modern device such as the mobile phone or the iPad and iPod, in such a manner that they perform a virtual intercourse?

DOJ Assec Sy said in his lecture that I mistook factum probandum for factum probans.

According to the 1972 Philippine Law Dictionary of the late Supreme Court Justice Federico Moreno which I have, factum probandum is “a fact to be proved or established”; while factum probans is “a proving fact.”

As I understand Assec Sy, in cases of adultery, the crime itself is the factum probandum; while he contends that e-mails and videos are the “proving fact” or factum probans.

The problem is that in the crime of adultery, the proving facts play such a major role in establishing the crime. I was aghast to find out that a wife need not be caught in the act – or inflagrante delicto – to be convicted of adultery. According to the book on the Revised Penal Code written by the late husband-and-wife Supreme Court Justices Ramon C. Aquino and Carolina Griño-Aquino:

“…proof of adultery, like proof of most other crimes, may safely rest on circumstantial evidence when the evidence is such that it leaves no room for reasonable doubt as to the guilt of the accused. Conviction for this crime has been frequently had without direct evidence as to the specific acts constituting the offense. The unexplained fact that a man is found at a late hour of the night alone in the room with another man’s wife, she being in bed, and absent from her husband’s home without his consent, and as far as she knew without his knowledge, is sufficient to sustain for the crime of adultery.”

“The nature of adultery is such that it cannot often be established by direct evidence….”

One of the examples that both judges cited was the Legaspi case where several love letters from a lover was found in the wife’s possession…and the offended husband, armed with a search warrant, found both “partially disrobed in one bed”.

If a husband were to catch his scantily dressed spouse while she is doing Facetime on the iPhone with another man, would that be the same as being “partially disrobed in one bed”?

cyber adultery

Now I will explain one other reason why I was greatly disturbed by this wholesale cramming of the crime of adultery into the Cybercrime Prevention Act.

The law will make it easier for husbands to gather evidence against their wives. As in the case of the American General David Petraeus, racy e-mail between lovers could provide strong circumstantial evidence. So could photographs and videos exchanged between them. So could “sexting”.

Since the Cybercrime Prevention Act crammed the entire Penal Code (which includes the crime of adultery) into this law, husbands can use the following section to fish for evidence:

SEC. 12. Real-Time Collection of Traffic Data. — Law enforcement authorities, with due cause, shall be authorized to collect or record by technical or electronic means traffic data in real-time associated with specified communications transmitted by means of a computer system.

What’s wrong with that, you might say. As President Benigno Aquino said, shouldn’t a crime in the real world also be a crime in the virtual world?

Here’s where I come to one of my strongest objections to what Assec Sy did with the present Cybercrime Law (aside from online libel of course).

In other countries like the United States, adultery is defined as the act of having sexual relations by the husband or wife outside of their marriage. In the Philippines – where the Revised Penal Code containing the adultery law dates back to 1949 – adultery can only be committed by a married woman and by a man who knew the woman was married.

In other words, a married man who has multiple affairs with women who are single or whom he thought were single cannot be accused of adultery.

In simple terms, if your husband is cheating on you with affairs or single night stands right and left, you cannot charge him with adultery unless he happens to be hitting on a woman he knows is married. The only other way you can haul him to court is on the charge of concubinage, which means binabahay niya yung babae (he has placed a woman in a love nest) or he keeps a mistress in the conjugal home or has sexual intercourse “under scandalous circumstances.”

As a woman, I find it unjust that our present Penal Code allows married men to have a string of affairs and sexual intercourse so long as they do this with women whom they think are single.

And get this: adultery is punished more harshly than concubinage. Adultery is punished with prision correccional (six months to six years) in its medium to maximum periods; concubinage is punished with prision correccional in its minimum to medium periods.

In addition, a married woman can be charged with and convicted of adultery with the same lover for each known act of sexual intercourse. As the two associate justices explained in their book on the Revised Penal Code:

“Adultery is not a continuous offense; each sexual act is a separate crime of adultery. Conviction for one act does not bar prosecution for other adulterous acts.”

In contrast, the justices explained, concubinage is a single continuing offense:

“It is not the single act of adultery. It is cohabiting in a state of adultery. It may be a week, a month, a year, or longer, but still it is one offense only (Pitoc case).”

Our Penal Code, in effect, legalizes male philandering.

Now comes the Cybercrime Law drafted by DOJ Assec Sy which makes it easier to convict women with circumstantial electronic evidence, using real time collection of traffic data as provided under Section 12 of the Cybercrime Law. And yet the same law in effect  gives Filipino husbands free rein to carry on affairs in cyberspace.

Being convicted of adultery has grave consequences for women

Besides a jail term, adultery has other devastating consequences for married women. A lawyer told me that a conviction of adultery is one of the grounds that a husband can use to file for legal separation.

Now, under a newer separate law called the Family Code, the adulteress would be forced to lose her share of the conjugal property and be barred from inheriting anything if the husband dies. More devastatingly, she would automatically lose custody of any minor children.

The Family Code is more just and fair than the Revised Penal Code in that it makes no distinction between the wife or the husband as the erring spouse, but merely states that “sexual infidelity” is ground for separation.

In my interview with women’s right advocate Elizabeth Angsioco many months back, she told me that some lawyers were revisiting our laws on the crimes of adultery and concubinage with a view to revising them.

I would be amenable to the crime of adultery being crammed into the Cybercrime Law as long as lawmakers make married men equally liable for it and – in addition – make concubinage a crime punishable one degree higher than adultery. But I probably wouldn’t trust DOJ Assec Geronimo Sy to draft the proposed legislation.

303 Responses to “Dear Justice Assistant Secretary Sy: If cyber adultery doesn’t exist, why did you put it in the Cybercrime Law?”

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  1. 42
    PCC says:

    please read the email i sent you and kindly reply.
    check your spam folder.
    please reply to make sure you read it or you saw it in your inbox or spam folder(at least),
    even if you are not interested to pursue that extremely important topic.
    It is very important.
    regarding cybermartiallaw.
    Included in that law is a provision that will send many Filipinos to prison and
    could be potentially become victim of extortion or bullying by trolls.
    It is not about the libel part of the law,
    we have enough lawyers attacking that terrible part of the law.
    Analyze it.
    I am sure if cyberlaw happened in the USA
    and a journalist received that message that i sent you,
    He/she would spend the entire day analyzing it and send it to the press the next day as urgent.
    This would be unacceptable to the Americans or the entire Europe +UK
    and would claim it to be an absolutely absurd law that needs to be immediately thrown to the trash bin.

    Note: For highly intellectual person only.

    It is a long letter but if you think it is great,
    i want you to be the 1st one to bring it up and out to the public for debate.
    I assure you, this is a topic for a great debate.
    If you need my help, contact me.

    few day left for the TRO…

    • 42.1
      raissa says:

      OK. I found it in spam.

      I’ve asked someone to comment on it.

      Thanks.

      • 42.1.1
        PCC says:

        i sent you a reply, pls read it.
        Check you spam folder.
        If you could, honestly tell me if you are interested with the message
        and if you find the argument valid and important enough.
        Let me know if it is not, so that I wouldn’t keep on sending messages that might be unwanted.
        Maybe I am the only Filipino who have this analysis because i have heard no one,
        not a single one, brought it up.
        It was always the libel part that is being targeted by the anti cyber law movement that demands it to be removed
        while this equally important provision might be able to slip in without anyone noticing it.
        There is still time to ask the SC to strike this out as well.
        if you do not fully understand the content of the message,
        ask someone who might be able to help you (30+ yrs old I.T. or tech guy with a business/social sense).
        I really think it is important and i believe anyone (tech guy) from silicon valley (California) would agree with me.

  2. 41
  3. 40
    Jan says:

    There is no such banana as cyberadultery. Any conclusion that there is such a thing is a result of a reading of a badly crafted law. Tawag dyan impossible crime. Ganyan ang nangyayari kung hindi napag-isipan ng maigi ang paggawa ng batas.

  4. 39
    raissa says:

    I’ve updated this post – in reply to RM –

    Sex without contact

    http://raissarobles.com/2013/01/16/sex-without-contact/

    • 39.1
      netty says:

      Raissa, just a curious question. Some instances here that occur in the popular use of social media like FB, Twitter etc where couples now whether same sex or not separate/divorce depending what law prevails in their country.. If the case goes to court due to reasons of custody or for any other reason to dissolve/separate the union, does this constitute this cyber adultery? I am excited to hear the free opinion of our friend RM.

  5. 38
    Martial Bonifacio says:

    Complete audio of 1st oral debate in SC regarding cybercrime law.

    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/features/oral_arguments/cybercrime/cybercrime-01-15-13.mp3

  6. 37
    baycas says:

    Warning: NSFW

    Wow, this blog never ceases to amaze me…

    It’s rather naughty or kinky…but I wouldn’t think that operational definitions of “cyber sexual intercourse” and “cyber carnal knowledge” will be insinuated here.

    Both, I have read in a few comments but somehow with improvement or modification, may mean:

    Sexual penetration or close sexual contact with a continuously ringing device or gadget equipped with 3G, 4G or LTE capability and put on Vibration mode

    Tsk, it is now even harder to prosecute because weak or bad signal may be a defense…

    Hmm, perhaps cyber adulterers will get hold of smart phones with dual, triple, or quintuple SIM cards.

  7. 36
    PCC says:

    I find it weird. Why did you delete my previous post while you allow jokes?

    • 36.1
      raissa says:

      I didn’t delete anything.

      This is what you posted and it is up –

      I sent you an email regarding an extremely important matter about the cyberlaw that needs equal and full attention just like the libel part but nobody seems to notice it. There are enough lawyers pounding for the removal of the libel part , the search without warrant but no one has notice a part of the law the will hinder and bind the hands of current and future generation of internet guys from creating great websites.
      I want you to be the 1st one to write about it.
      Check your spam folders.
      If you cant find it, email me.
      I want it to remain confidential for the moment. analyze it. It is absolutely important that this should be brought to the attention of the public and should also be scrapped from whatever would be left of the cyber law (if the SC allow a revised cyberlaw new edition).
      It is Anti Filipino, Anti Filipino businessmen, Anti cyber rights and productivity of Filipino, Anti Filipino opportunity, anti internet technology. If this unnoticed part of the cyber law pass, it will literally put multitudes of internet guys (now and future generations) in danger and thus, will forever make the Philippines uncompetitive in the Internet age. It is about one of the very foundation of the internet, and the crappy cyberlaw will basically hinder or limit Filipinos to grab opportunities.

      • 36.1.1
        PCC says:

        Have you read my email? I sent it a long time ago. You seem not interested at all what it is. I did not receive any reply. It is ok if you are not interested, i just want to (hopefully) to be at least notified that what I am saying doesn’t interest you or is not worthy to be pursued. If you will only read it and find the logic on what it means you would clearly understand the repercussion or negative effect it will have. All media personnel are focused on the libel part and the search without warrant because it is what will get media attention but none has spent even a minute to investigate further other errors in the cyber law that needs to be deleted.If you have not read it, kindly tell me where to sent it (email), or do you want me to post it online on another site like wordpress or tumblr (while i want you to read it 1st and find out if i am mistaken or not). You seem to have enough clout to ask important people to look into the said matter than I have. What do you think?

        • 36.1.1.1
          raissa says:

          I have not received any e-mail from you.

          • 36.1.1.1.1
            PCC says:

            I have on raissarobles dot com at gmail dot com dot = “.” for antibots.
            I have no choice than but post a link here.
            do not forget to visit this exact link, i will post it online. I will recompose it and post the link here in your site. Please read it. If you are a reader here, please re visit this link tonight and read the post. Join the conversation and maybe Rissa can create a full post if it is worth the attention. I believe it does and not only a post but a petition for it to be deleted from the cyberlaw(new edition). Thanks

            • raissa says:

              I just checked again. I have not received anything from you in that e-mail address.

              Just copy and paste here what you want to say. I’m sure the other commenters would want to know.

              Thanks.

        • 36.1.1.2
          fed_up says:

          @FCC. Please take patience. As a commenter in this blog since the time it was debated which name should be given to this community (it was eventually agreed upon to be called CPM for “Cyber Plaza Miranda”) I have been fed up a number of times waiting for my comments to be posted here.

          Though it took time, all my comments have been posted, sometimes duplicated because I got impatient as to repeat the posting.

          This blogging thing is a new technology we are all enjoying but sometimes technology can be a burden.

    • 36.2
      Parekoy says:

      @PCC

      Please check if you added hyper links, this site automatically quarantines the comments with those. The waiting time is about an hour to release those. It happened to me too.

      Don’t worry, Raissa’s site is an Equal Opportunity Site (EOS), even some nutcase comments are allowed here as I observed.

      We can’t wait to read your urgent message!

      • 36.2.1
        The Thinker says:

        You are right. In a country full of nutcase, an intelligent person would be a social deviant among nutcase.

        • 36.2.1.1
          Baltazar says:

          @ The Thinker
          …that’s just another euphemism. So which one are you , the intelligent or the nutcase.?.and have you seen PCC’s comments such that you can categorize him as one of the two cases?

          • 36.2.1.1.1
            The Thinker says:

            @Baltazar, grow up, listen and learn. Assuming if you know how to read, understand simple elementary English what did PCC said again? What was the issue of his e-mail to Raissa that you allude that I have read?

            How can I know what her issue is when she did not post his query to Raissa in this blog?

            Baltazar with your age and supposedly wisdom you are just normal. A normal nutcase in my definition among many.

            As what this wacko who calls himself Mariano Renato Pacifico: “TO HAVE A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM IS TO KNOW THE PROBLEM FIRST”

            So, Baltazar, I cannot know PCC’s issues are but definitely I cannot know because she did not post it here unless I am clairvoyant which majority of the Filipinos still rely on.

            Thank you.

            P.S. Please do not bother to respond. Because your response is likely another of your snipping and tirade that is unsubstantiated like the Philippine Media.

            • Baltazar says:

              @The THinker

              So, Baltazar, I cannot know PCC’s issues are but definitely I cannot know because she did not post it here unless I am clairvoyant which majority of the Filipinos still rely on.

              Let me repeat what I said in one thred:
              Do not argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with their idiotic experience

              So you too believe in clairvoyant while you are accusing Pinoys of beleiving one. So you have answered my question, you intelligent
              Case Rested!

  8. 35
    Parekoy says:

    Break muna para more fun in the CPM

    Syno ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Anonymous Philippines’ hacks gov’t webSytes anew!
    -balitang halaw sa Philstar

    Dahil sa panibagong paghaSyk ng mga hackers para ireklamo ang karapatang pantao sa pamamahayag, nagpanik ang Malakanyang. Ang reklamo ng mga hackers ay dahil sa ADULTERATED na Sybercrime Law. Titigil lang daw Syla pag tinanggal ang mga ADULTERATED proviSyons at pangalanan at tanggalin sa pwesto ang mga ADULTERERS ng Sybercrime Law. Namumutla, namumula at kumikislap na parang krismas layt ang bumbunan ni PNoy sa galit.

    Madaling irepeal ni Pnoy ang mga probiSyon dahil hawak nya rin ang TongreSyo, Syetnado, at andon na Sy Syreno sa Korte Suprema. Pero ang problema ni PNoy ay kung Syno ang may pakana ng nakakahiyang mga probiSyon ng Sybercrime Law. Inatasan nya ang NBI, PNP, at iba pang sangay ng gobyerno sa pagimbestiga kung Synong henyo ang may kagagawan nito.

    PaSyguro rin Sy Pnoy. Dahil alam nya na tSysmoso ang karamihan ng mga Pilipino baka may mag syngsyng. So inatasan nya ang isang Sexy Reporter (Malaki rin ang Futures) na mag-interbyu sa mga PUlitiko at iba-ibang personalidad sa bansa. Humayo at nang-interbyu ang reporter.

    Reporter: Syno ho ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Syetnator Miriam:
    (Nakita ang camera at automatic na nakangiti dahil bagong facial/botox pero bago sumagot biglang naging seryoso at inilabas ang kanyang mga pangil at umuusok ang tenga) . Sy Syetnator PonSy Enrile yan. Alam naman natin kung Syno ang namahagi ng “Christmas Gifts sa Syetnado”, Synoli ko pa nga dahil alam ko suhol yun sa panantili nya sa pagka PreSyetdente ng Syetnado. Syno ba ang MarSyal Law Administrator? Syno ang nagpayaman Symula pa noong panahon ni Marcos?Hukluban na yan mahilig pa manliligaw, pa-coup-coup pa cuopal naman, ngayon gusto pang maging Syetnador ang kanyang anak. Daanin na lamang naming sa BokSying, kung Syno ang matalo Sya ang Adulterer ng Sybercrime Law!

    Syetnator JPonSyE:
    (Papungay ng mata at iSynilid sa kwelyo ang kanyang kulubot na balat sa leeg, habang nagpapak ng Viagra) ADULTERER? Ako? Ayoko ng patulan yan, alam naman natin kung Syno ang may tama sa ulo. Sya nga pagkagraduate nya, nagtrabaho agad yan sa gobyerno kay Kokoy (Kapatid ni Imelda) at alam ko ni hindi nag practice yan. Ako yumaman ako kaSy nagpractice ako bago pa ako nag Symula sa gobyerno. Sya ang imbestigahan natin, ang yaman nya na rin, laki pa ng mga bahay. Anong sabi nya, nanliligaw ako sa kanya? Hindi ah, naman may taste naman ako, aminin ko kay Loren oo, pero yung Chief of Staff ko, wow Syuper. At yong paninira nya na gawa-gawa kong ambush nong MarSyal Law sa libro ko, sabihin nyo sa kanya mas fictitious yung kanyang pagka Expert nya Kuno sa Constitutional Law, ilabas nya nga grades nya sa UP. Haay, ayoko na ngang pumatol dyan. May kasabihan kaSy: Pag pumatol ka sa isang Syra-ulo eh di Syra-ulo ka rin. Pag-usapan na lang natin ang kandidatura ng anak ko, hindi mamatay tao yan at lalo na hindi rapist.

    Syetnatorial Jacky PonSyE: Iboto nyo ako para maimbestigahan ko yan sa Syetnado, kaSy gusto ko happy rin kayo. Ulitin ko hindi ko trip yung pagiging Adulterer, gusto ko hapi wife ko. Pero yung pagiging killer at rapist…(tinapik ng tatay at Synenyasan na itigil na ang interbyu.)

    PreSyetdente Erap: Adulterer? Naman. Anong ebidenSya nyo? Kahit tanungin nyo pa Sy Loi, Sy Guia, Sy Laarni, saka Sy Joy. Plunderer okay, pero Adulterer never. Maling akusaSyon yan, hindi ako mahilig sa matanda (Adult), mahilig ako sa mga diSye. Hwag nyo nga pa lang kalimutan, iboto JV.

    Reporter: Syr, nagtatanong lang po kung alam nyo, hindi ko po Synasabi na kayo

    PreSyetdente Erap: Ganon ba, paki bati nga kay Gloria, “Una Una lang yan, he he…”. Tanungin nyo Sy Syabit, baka may listahan yun.

    Syabit Syngson: Synabi ni Erap yun?(Nagsuot muna ng shades na parang sa tutubi) Hindi ako ang nag insert nyan, pero pabor ako dyan lalo na yung sa adultery. Dapat yung asawa ko nakulong yun, ano ba ang karapatan nya na magboyfriend kahit hiwalay na kami, adultery pa rin yun. Kaming mga lalaki pwedeng kumuha kahit pa ilang babae, pero sila hindi. Tularan dapat ng batas ang parusa ko sa adultery. Ganito. Bugbugin yung lalaki, ilabas ang ari (liit naman ng ari ng boyfriend ng asawa ko), hawakan ng maiigi, at martilyuhin.

    Syetnatorial JV EjerSyto: Syguro yung isang bansot na Syetnador ang nag insert nyan. Halata naman Sya na ayaw nya akong maging Syetnador, gusto nya Sya na lang ang laging Sykat, Sya na lang ang bida, Sya na lang ang paborito ni Daddy, alam ko Sya ang panganay pano naming kaming ibang mga kafatid? Sya nga Syguro…

    Syetnator Jinggoy: Hoy Syadaffbadaff!

    Syetnator(a?) Koko: (Tinamaan) Walang ganyanan Jinggoy, courteSy naman sa kapwa Syetnador. Pero Miss Reporter, sa tingin ko ipinasok yang probiSyon nayan nong ni Syubiri pa ang nakaupo. Hudas yan, mandaraya, kaya Adulterer ng Sybercrime, Sya yon. Hoy Syubiri, amihnihn. Pag nakita ko Sya, kukurutin ko Sya, pero gwapo Sya diba?

    Syetnatorial Syubiri: Hmmp, kaya ka iniwan ng asawa mo, mas malandi ka pa sa kanya. Hindi ako aaah. Aminin ko na lang na may alam ako sa dayaan noon sa Mindanao sa tulong ni PreSyetdente Gloria, GarSy at ng mga Sycho Ampatuan, pero nagSyngit nyan never!

    Syetsya*Gloria: Ano bayan Syubiri, nanahimik na ako ditto sa St Luke, Hello?

    *masarap lang pakinggan

    Syiter(Cheater) GarSy: Tawag kaba Maam? Kulang pa ba yung 1M?

    Sycho Ampatuan: Pisting kang yawa’a ka Syubiri, nanahimik ko dito sa kulungan Bay, hwag nako damay. Piro Miss Reporter, sa tingin ko yung hinahanap nyo, Sya rin ang bumaon dun sa midya , Sya yon. Naghanting lang kami baboy ramo dun, nagkataon lang na napadaan dun yung cunvuy ng miSys ni Mangungudato at midya. Hwag naman aku husgahan. Piro pag inamin ko ba na ako yung pumatay sa priss pridom sa Sybercrime, abswilto aku sa masakir? Kung uu, aminin ko na.

    Syxyparin Korina: Syno ba ang pandak at maitim na maligno at atat na maging PreSyetdente? Pati anak nya na wala namang alam at bano pa, pinatakbo pa sa Syetnado. Di na magkaSya sa kanila ang pagiging Mayor ng Makati, Tongresswoman, at Bise PreSyetdente. Talagang namamaligno na tayo. Maligno SyxSyxSyx Dynasty yan.Syla na nga!

    SyxSyxSyx NanSy Binay: (Habang namimili ng mga Belo whitening products) Grabe naman kayo kung laitin nyo ang Daddy ko. Proud ho kami sa kulay namin. Bata pa lang ho ako, ang orientation naming magkakapatid ay towards public Syrvice so iyon ang strong point namin, our deSyre to help. Kaya nga ako ang plataporma ko, dapat magpaganda ka. Tag line ko: Kay Binay, gaganda ang buhay.

    Reporter: Whatever…

    Reporter pumunta sa presscon para update sa Atimonan Overkill

    Sycretary Ochoa: (May hangover pa) Alam ko yung probiSyon nayan, proposal lang yan noon, pero hindi ko inapruban yan, wala ngang pondo eh. Sabi sakin ni Dumlao, mga gun- for- hire daw to. Sana naman hwag ng patulan to ni Sycretary Padyak Mar.

    Dumlao: Coplan Armado Sybercrime. Yan po ang pangalan ng operaSyon namin. Yun nag-insert ng libel probiSyon yung target namin sa Atimonan. Sy Supt.Hansel Manratrat ang operations offiSyr, paki tanong nyo Sya.

    Supt. Manratrat: Confirmed po, Sy Syman nga po. Rubout? Nanlaban po, yun kailangan depensahan naming ang sarili namin. Opo 24 kaming pulis at 25 na mga kapatid na mga sundalo. Nawawalang 100milyon? Baka po naibigay na doon sa mga Syetnador na bumoto para mailusot nya Syung korberSyal na libel probiSyon. More than 400 na bala ang tumama sa sasakyan? Konti pa po yun. Rubout? Di po. Kahit itanong nyo pa don sa mga pamilya ng 16 biktima sa Paranaque nonng 2008, bayani po ako noon nabigyan pa ako ng promoSyon. Masakit pa po ang mga galos oops tama pala ng bala ko sa kamay at paa, pahinga na muna po ako.

    Syetnator Lacson: Rubout? Hwag muna tayong maSyadong mag-speculate, magaling na mga enforcers yan Syla Dumlao at Hansel Manratrat, uphold nyan ang batas. Alam ko ang nararamdaman nila ngayon, dumaan din ako dyan nung ako ay naakusahan sa Kuratong Baleleng, pero ano napatunayan ba nila? Sa tingin ko Sy Syman talaga ang nag insert ng probiSyon.

    Nagtanong naman Sy Miss Reporter sa mga Taipans.

    LuSyo Tan: Tingin ko funded yan ni Sy. Alam mo naman yan gustong Sya na lang lagi ang pinakamayaman sa Pilipinas. Ano ang purpose nya? May lihim kaSy yan at gusto nyang itago, so kailangan higpitan ang freedom of speech sa internet, baka lumabas. Pero alam mo, may pagkaengot din yan, yung tinatago nya nasa pangalan ng kanyang mall. SM-Sadista na Masokista pa yan. Pano ko nalaman? Yung babae nya naging babae ko rin, yun iniwan nya, kaSy kung ano-ano daw kahalayan ang pinag-gagawa sa kanya. Call me anytime if you need anything, okay? (sabay kindat)

    Henry Sy: Synabi ni LuSyo yun? LuSyfer talaga yan, naungusan ko lang sa pagiging pinakamayaman sa Pinas, kung ano-ano na ang Synasabi. Syguro Sya, lahat nyan binibili panahon pa ng MarSyal Law hanggang ngayon. Yung mga Syetnators binibili nya. Please ask Syetnator Recto. Tingnan mo yung Syn Tax, diba sumingaw ang pangalan nya don? Sya yun. Call me anytime if you need anything, okay? (kumindat din pero hindi halata, halos nakapikit na kasi.)

    Nagdako Sy Miss Reporter sa Bilibid.

    Rolito Go: Sya yung nagkidnap sa akin sa loob ng kulungan.

    Antonio Sanchez: Pag itinuro ko ba mabibigyan ako ng pardon tulad ni Jalosjos?

    Meanwhile in Zamboanga City…kausap si Miss Sexy Reporter sa Cellphone

    Jalosjos: Ano iSynabit ang pangalan ko ni Sanchez? Rapist ako pero hindi ako rapist-murderer na tulad nya. Buhay, buhay yung bata! Kung gusto nyang lumabas, magbigay Sya dami namang nababayaran dyan sa Bilibid, ako diretso sa itaas, diba mam Glo? Kung makakalabas Sya, pwede rin Syang tumakbo under UNA, feel at home Sya. Mga Ex convicts, Plunderers, Rapists, mga Coup plotters, at iba pang mga astigs. Hwag nyo nga pala akong kalimutan sa darating na botohan. Mayor ng Zamboanga City under the Syga party of UNA. Syno sa tingin ko ang ADULTERER ng Sybercrime? PasenSya ka na ija, hindi ako tSysmoso at nagbalik-loob na ako ki God. Plug ko na rin yung programa ko sa mga kabataan dito sa Zambongga: iYOUTH(iyut), bale scholarship yun sa mga edad 12-16 na mga babae, kwalipikaSyon: maganda, sexy at bobo. Tapos ng interbyu, humayo at namigay ng mga kendi sa mga paslit sa lansangan…

    Nag Jeep sa UP Sy Miss Reporter, bumili ng banana q at nang interbyu ng mga frat boys.

    Sygma Rhoan: Pakana yan ng mga UpSylon. Andyan Sy Joker, Pangilinan, Remulla, at Fuentebella.

    UpSylonian: Pakana yan ng mga Sygma Rhoans. Nasa kanila Sy Enrile, Angara, Drilon, Villafuerte, Salas, at lalo na Sy Antonio Carpio.

    Alpha Phi Omega: Nagturuan ang dalwang tunggak. Good! Di nila alam nasa amin Sy Binay at Sy Chiz. Sa rambolan ala Syla sa amin. Pero walang aamin sa amin kaSy may Omerta kami. MafyoSy kami. PreSyetdente Binay 2016, APO, APO, APO!

    Dumaan na rin sa,Ateneo, UST, AMA at LaSalle at nang interbyu ng mga estudyante.

    Atenista: It is quite obvious who is going to benefit from strengthening the punishment of Adultery. Maka SyBiSyPi. Syempre mga taga USTe, mga sarado ang mga utak nyan, utak-Damaso. Kahit Syguro Synabi ng mga taga UST na lemons and cowards yung mga taga LaSalle, Sygurado ako hindi La Sallista yun, kailangan mo above 80 yung IQ para maipalusot mo yung ganong probiSyon. Taga AMA utak komiks pero marunong yun sa computer, remotely Syguro.

    USTe: Atenista yun! Mga Jesuits traydor ang mga yan, meron na naman yan binabalak para mas malakas ang impluenSya nila sa gobyerno. Bulok na style ng mga yan, panahon pa ng inquiSySyon. Pero Sygurado ako hindi LaSallista yun, obvious diba, baka taga AMA.

    Batang AMA: Syet Tsong, Dude.., Anti Cybercrime kami! Mga hackers kami, kita mo yung tumira sa mga webSytes ng gobyerno, Anonymous Philippines, ka-grupo namin Syla. Nagpa cute at sabi, “Miss gusto mo ng fishball?”

    LaSallista: What is that again? Sybercrime…Libel…Adultery? Can you please wait a minute, I’ll have to call my driver, baka alam nya yun.

    Miss Reporter: Hwag na…

    Dumaan na Sy Miss Reporter sa Senado, nag PM sa FB kay Kerry Kennedy at tinanong sa iSyu.

    Kerry Kennedy: Text message-“ Syetnator Syotto!”

    Nadaan Sy Syotto sa hall, interbyu agad ni Miss Reporter.

    Reporter: Syno ho ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Syetnator Syotto: (Nagpapogi muna, hinagod ang bigote at balbas para magmukhang matalino. Pinabilog ang boses) Nainterbyu mo na ba Sy Kennedy?

    Reporter: Oho, sumagot na sa text.

    Syetnator Syotto: Pareho kami ng sagot.

    Solve?

    Sundan ang susunod na kabanata…

    • 35.1
      leona says:

      Sa ibaba pareho din!…SYOTOO COPY ito?

      • 35.1.1
        Parekoy says:

        @leona,

        Pasensya na, na sandwich yong sayo. May link kasi kaya na quarantine yun, di ko alam akala ko nag error yung computer ko, yun resend ulit. Accidentally, na Syottocopy nga.

    • 35.2
      pinay710 says:

      @kabayan parekoy. aba eh daig mo si CAPARAS sa scrip writing. hahahhahha natauhan ako. ngayon lang sa tagal mula pumasok yung SIRA MRP dito sa CPM ngayon lang ako nabuhay muli. hahahhahahah!! puede ba magsuggest ng titulo ng scirp mo? eto? ANG SYBER SYSY!! BOW!! (mais no?) ganyan ang mag papatama sa mga GUNGGONG na nasa gobyerno natin. hindi naninigaw at hindi nagaalipusta pero may tama sa makabasa. hangang hanga ako sa iyo parekoy!!saka mas madali kong naintindihan ang situaSYon ng usapin dito. gustong gusto ko ang isytyle mo, SYr!!

    • 35.3
      pinay710 says:

      @parekoy, ang galing mong gumawa ng script. daig mo si CAPARAS. parang smorsgasbord ang dating. lahat ng artikulo ni raissa nasa isang script. hahahaha mula noong pumasok yung SIRANG MRP ngayon lang ako natuwa at natauhan. lalo kong naintindihan ang mga artikulo ni raissa. ito ang tamang iSYtle ng pagkokommento. hindi sumisigaw, hindi nanghihiya, hindi nanyayapak ng kapwa at hindi nagmamalaki. lalong maliwanag sa akin ang mga pangyayari. salamat ha. mas natututo ako sa iSYtle mo. you make my night with a SYmile!! hihihihi! ty po!

    • 35.4
      Rossi says:

      made me LOL hohohohohohohohohohohohooo…….

      very nice, indeed!!!!!

    • 35.5
      Baltazar says:

      @Parekoy
      Ngayon ko lang binasa kasi medyo mahaba.. syet.! .I really did burst into laughter in that part with Tia Miriam, The Huk (luban), Erap & Chavit ;-) . This is what I’m really calling as the icing of the cake. ..way to go parekoy.

    • 35.6
      tagasampaloc says:

      @Parekoy-
      Brilliant screen writing this blog of yours. Better than most graduates’ work majoring in screen writing at Columbia Uni in NY. You are the best!

    • 35.7
      netty says:

      Tsk, tsk, na- late ka yata sa Best Screenplay and Best Director of Cyber Comedy Story sa Golden Globe Award. -15 dito sa lugar ko , pero naginit ako sa katatawa..I am looking forward to read the part two, SYGE abangan ko.

  9. 34
    leona says:

    PataWA muna…Kwento tungkul kay EVA…

    EVE’S SIDE OF THE STORY . . .

    After three weeks in the Garden of Eden, God came to visit Eve. ‘So, how is everything going ?’ inquired God.

    ‘It is all so beautiful, God,’ she replied. ‘The sunrises and sunsets are breathtaking, the smells, the sights, everything is wonderful, but I have just one problem . . .

    It’s these breasts you have given me. The middle one pushes the other two out and I am constantly knocking them with my arms, catching them on branches and snagging them on bushes. They’re a real pain.’

    And Eve went on to tell God that since many other parts of her body came in pairs, such as her limbs, eyes, ears, etc . She felt that having only two breasts might leave her body more ‘symmetrically balanced’.

    ‘That’s a fair point,’ replied God, ‘But it was my first shot at this, you know. I gave the animals six breasts, so I figured that you needed only half of those, but I see that you are right. I will fix it up right away.’

    And God reached down, removed the middle breast and tossed it into the bushes .

    Three weeks passed and God once again visited Eve in the Garden of Eden.

    ‘Well, Eve, how is my favorite creation ?’

    ‘Just fantastic,’ she replied, ‘But for one oversight. You see, all the animals are paired off. The ewe has a ram and the cow has her bull. All the animals have a mate except me. I feel so alone.’

    God thought for a moment and said, ‘You know, Eve, you are right. How could I have overlooked this? You do need a mate and I will immediately create a man from a part of you. Let’s see . . . where did I put that useless boob?’

    Now doesn’t THAT make more sense than the rib story?!?!

    Para sa mga LALAKI, pag masdan ninyo!

    • 34.1
      pinay710 says:

      kung ganun pala hindi sa TADYANG kinuha si adan? heheheh kundi sa isang parte na walang PAKINABANG at PAMPAGULO? heheheheh kaya pala puro KALALAKIHAN ANG NAGNGUGULO SA MUNDO. kasi pinulot lang sila. hihihi pero mahal ko ang asawa kong LALAKE. at ang mga BABAE ang talagang makulit kaya hindi natahimik si Lord.hehehe tulad ni RAISSA makulit kaya daming natutuklasang mga KATOTOHANAN NA DAPAT NATING MALAMAN.

  10. 33
    Rolly says:

    Last year similar online Bills at the US (SOPA, Stop Online Piracy Act and PIPA Protect IP Act), but not even half as much potent as the Cybercrime Law, were unable to take off the ground due to incessant protests of its citizens.

    pcworld.com/article/248298/sopa_and_pipa_just_the_facts.html

  11. 32
    Parekoy says:

    Break muna para more fun in the CPM

    Syno ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Anonymous Philippines’ hacks gov’t webSytes anew
    http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/01/15/897221/anonymous-philippines-hacks-govt-webSytes-anew

    Dahil sa panibagong paghaSyk ng mga hackers para ireklamo ang karapatang pantao sa pamamahayag, nagpanik ang Malakanyang. Ang reklamo ng mga hackers ay dahil sa ADULTERATED na Sybercrime Law. Titigil lang daw Syla pag tinanggal ang mga ADULTERATED proviSyons at pangalanan at tanggalin sa pwesto ang mga ADULTERERS ng Sybercrime Law. Namumutla, namumula at kumikislap na parang krismas layt ang bumbunan ni PNoy sa galit.

    Madaling irepeal ni Pnoy ang mga probiSyon dahil hawak nya rin ang TongreSyo, Syetnado, at andon na Sy Syreno sa Korte Suprema. Pero ang problema ni PNoy ay kung Syno ang may pakana ng nakakahiyang mga probiSyon ng Sybercrime Law. Inatasan nya ang NBI, PNP, at iba pang sangay ng gobyerno sa pagimbestiga kung Synong henyo ang may kagagawan nito.

    PaSyguro rin Sy Pnoy. Dahil alam nya na tSysmoso ang karamihan ng mga Pilipino baka may mag syngsyng. So inatasan nya ang isang Sexy Reporter (Malaki rin ang Futures) na mag-interbyu sa mga PUlitiko at iba-ibang personalidad sa bansa. Humayo at nang-interbyu ang reporter.

    Reporter: Syno ho ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Syetnator Miriam:
    (Nakita ang camera at automatic na nakangiti dahil bagong facial/botox pero bago sumagot biglang naging seryoso at inilabas ang kanyang mga pangil at umuusok ang tenga) . Sy Syetnator PonSy Enrile yan. Alam naman natin kung Syno ang namahagi ng “Christmas Gifts sa Syetnado”, Synoli ko pa nga dahil alam ko suhol yun sa panantili nya sa pagka PreSyetdente ng Syetnado. Syno ba ang MarSyal Law Administrator? Syno ang nagpayaman Symula pa noong panahon ni Marcos?Hukluban na yan mahilig pa manliligaw, pa-coup-coup pa cuopal naman, ngayon gusto pang maging Syetnador ang kanyang anak. Daanin na lamang naming sa BokSying, kung Syno ang matalo Sya ang Adulterer ng Sybercrime Law!

    Syetnator JPonSyE:
    (Papungay ng mata at iSynilid sa kwelyo ang kanyang kulubot na balat sa leeg, habang nagpapak ng Viagra) ADULTERER? Ako? Ayoko ng patulan yan, alam naman natin kung Syno ang may tama sa ulo. Sya nga pagkagraduate nya, nagtrabaho agad yan sa gobyerno kay Kokoy (Kapatid ni Imelda) at alam ko ni hindi nag practice yan. Ako yumaman ako kaSy nagpractice ako bago pa ako nag Symula sa gobyerno. Sya ang imbestigahan natin, ang yaman nya na rin, laki pa ng mga bahay. Anong sabi nya, nanliligaw ako sa kanya? Hindi ah, naman may taste naman ako, aminin ko kay Loren oo, pero yung Chief of Staff ko, wow Syuper. At yong paninira nya na gawa-gawa kong ambush nong MarSyal Law sa libro ko, sabihin nyo sa kanya mas fictitious yung kanyang pagka Expert nya Kuno sa Constitutional Law, ilabas nya nga grades nya sa UP. Haay, ayoko na ngang pumatol dyan. May kasabihan kaSy: Pag pumatol ka sa isang Syra-ulo eh di Syra-ulo ka rin. Pag-usapan na lang natin ang kandidatura ng anak ko, hindi mamatay tao yan at lalo na hindi rapist.

    Syetnatorial Jacky PonSyE: Iboto nyo ako para maimbestigahan ko yan sa Syetnado, kaSy gusto ko happy rin kayo. Ulitin ko hindi ko trip yung pagiging Adulterer, gusto ko hapi wife ko. Pero yung pagiging killer at rapist…(tinapik ng tatay at Synenyasan na itigil na ang interbyu.)

    PreSyetdente Erap: Adulterer? Naman. Anong ebidenSya nyo? Kahit tanungin nyo pa Sy Loi, Sy Guia, Sy Laarni, saka Sy Joy. Plunderer okay, pero Adulterer never. Maling akusaSyon yan, hindi ako mahilig sa matanda (Adult), mahilig ako sa mga diSye. Hwag nyo nga pa lang kalimutan, iboto JV.

    Reporter: Syr, nagtatanong lang po kung alam nyo, hindi ko po Synasabi na kayo

    PreSyetdente Erap: Ganon ba, paki bati nga kay Gloria, “Una Una lang yan, he he…”. Tanungin nyo Sy Syabit, baka may listahan yun.

    Syabit Syngson: Synabi ni Erap yun?(Nagsuot muna ng shades na parang sa tutubi) Hindi ako ang nag insert nyan, pero pabor ako dyan lalo na yung sa adultery. Dapat yung asawa ko nakulong yun, ano ba ang karapatan nya na magboyfriend kahit hiwalay na kami, adultery pa rin yun. Kaming mga lalaki pwedeng kumuha kahit pa ilang babae, pero sila hindi. Tularan dapat ng batas ang parusa ko sa adultery. Ganito. Bugbugin yung lalaki, ilabas ang ari (liit naman ng ari ng boyfriend ng asawa ko), hawakan ng maiigi, at martilyuhin.

    Syetnatorial JV EjerSyto: Syguro yung isang bansot na Syetnador ang nag insert nyan. Halata naman Sya na ayaw nya akong maging Syetnador, gusto nya Sya na lang ang laging Sykat, Sya na lang ang bida, Sya na lang ang paborito ni Daddy, alam ko Sya ang panganay pano naming kaming ibang mga kafatid? Sya nga Syguro…

    Syetnator Jinggoy: Hoy Syadaffbadaff!

    Syetnator(a?) Koko: (Tinamaan) Walang ganyanan Jinggoy, courteSy naman sa kapwa Syetnador. Pero Miss Reporter, sa tingin ko ipinasok yang probiSyon nayan nong ni Syubiri pa ang nakaupo. Hudas yan, mandaraya, kaya Adulterer ng Sybercrime, Sya yon. Hoy Syubiri, amihnihn. Pag nakita ko Sya, kukurutin ko Sya, pero gwapo Sya diba?

    Syetnatorial Syubiri: Hmmp, kaya ka iniwan ng asawa mo, mas malandi ka pa sa kanya. Hindi ako aaah. Aminin ko na lang na may alam ako sa dayaan noon sa Mindanao sa tulong ni PreSyetdente Gloria, GarSy at ng mga Sycho Ampatuan, pero nagSyngit nyan never!

    Syetsya*Gloria: Ano bayan Syubiri, nanahimik na ako ditto sa St Luke, Hello?

    *masarap lang pakinggan

    Syiter(Cheater) GarSy: Tawag kaba Maam? Kulang pa ba yung 1M?

    Sycho Ampatuan: Pisting kang yawa’a ka Syubiri, nanahimik ko dito sa kulungan Bay, hwag nako damay. Piro Miss Reporter, sa tingin ko yung hinahanap nyo, Sya rin ang bumaon dun sa midya , Sya yon. Naghanting lang kami baboy ramo dun, nagkataon lang na napadaan dun yung cunvuy ng miSys ni Mangungudato at midya. Hwag naman aku husgahan. Piro pag inamin ko ba na ako yung pumatay sa priss pridom sa Sybercrime, abswilto aku sa masakir? Kung uu, aminin ko na.

    Syxyparin Korina: Syno ba ang pandak at maitim na maligno at atat na maging PreSyetdente? Pati anak nya na wala namang alam at bano pa, pinatakbo pa sa Syetnado. Di na magkaSya sa kanila ang pagiging Mayor ng Makati, Tongresswoman, at Bise PreSyetdente. Talagang namamaligno na tayo. Maligno SyxSyxSyx Dynasty yan.Syla na nga!

    SyxSyxSyx NanSy Binay: (Habang namimili ng mga Belo whitening products) Grabe naman kayo kung laitin nyo ang Daddy ko. Proud ho kami sa kulay namin. Bata pa lang ho ako, ang orientation naming magkakapatid ay towards public Syrvice so iyon ang strong point namin, our deSyre to help. Kaya nga ako ang plataporma ko, dapat magpaganda ka. Tag line ko: Kay Binay, gaganda ang buhay.

    Reporter: Whatever…

    Sycretary Ochoa: (May hangover pa) Alam ko yung probiSyon nayan, proposal lang yan noon, pero hindi ko inapruban yan, wala ngang pondo eh. Sabi sakin ni Dumlao, mga gun- for- hire daw to. Sana naman hwag ng patulan to ni Sycretary Padyak Mar.

    Dumlao: Coplan Armado Sybercrime. Yan po ang pangalan ng operaSyon namin. Yun nag-insert ng libel probiSyon yung target namin sa Atimonan. Sy Supt.Hansel Manratrat ang operations offiSyr, paki tanong nyo Sya.

    Supt. Manratrat: Confirmed po, Sy Syman nga po. Rubout? Nanlaban po, yun kailangan depensahan naming ang sarili namin. Opo 24 kaming pulis at 25 na mga kapatid na mga sundalo. Nawawalang 100milyon? Baka po naibigay na doon sa mga Syetnador na bumoto para mailusot nya Syung korberSyal na libel probiSyon. More than 400 na bala ang tumama sa sasakyan? Konti pa po yun. Rubout? Di po. Kahit itanong nyo pa don sa mga pamilya ng 16 biktima sa Paranaque nonng 2008, bayani po ako noon nabigyan pa ako ng promoSyon. Masakit pa po ang mga galos oops tama pala ng bala ko sa kamay at paa, pahinga na muna po ako.

    Syetnator Lacson: Rubout? Hwag muna tayong maSyadong mag-speculate, magaling na mga enforcers yan Syla Dumlao at Hansel Manratrat, uphold nyan ang batas. Alam ko ang nararamdaman nila ngayon, dumaan din ako dyan nung ako ay naakusahan sa Kuratong Baleleng, pero ano napatunayan ba nila? Sa tingin ko Sy Syman talaga ang nag insert ng probiSyon.

    Nagtanong naman Sy Miss Reporter sa mga Taipans.

    LuSyo Tan: Tingin ko funded yan ni Sy. Alam mo naman yan gustong Sya na lang lagi ang pinakamayaman sa Pilipinas. Ano ang purpose nya? May lihim kaSy yan at gusto nyang itago, so kailangan higpitan ang freedom of speech sa internet, baka lumabas. Pero alam mo, may pagkaengot din yan, yung tinatago nya nasa pangalan ng kanyang mall. SM-Sadista na Masokista pa yan. Pano ko nalaman? Yung babae nya naging babae ko rin, yun iniwan nya, kaSy kung ano-ano daw kahalayan ang pinag-gagawa sa kanya. Call me anytime if you need anything, okay? (sabay kindat)

    Henry Sy: Synabi ni LuSyo yun? LuSyfer talaga yan, naungusan ko lang sa pagiging pinakamayaman sa Pinas, kung ano-ano na ang Synasabi. Syguro Sya, lahat nyan binibili panahon pa ng MarSyal Law hanggang ngayon. Yung mga Syetnators binibili nya. Please ask Syetnator Recto. Tingnan mo yung Syn Tax, diba sumingaw ang pangalan nya don? Sya yun. Call me anytime if you need anything, okay? (kumindat din pero hindi halata, halos nakapikit na kasi.)

    Nagdako Sy Miss Reporter sa Bilibid.

    Rolito Go: Sya yung nagkidnap sa akin sa loob ng kulungan.

    Antonio Sanchez: Pag itinuro ko ba mabibigyan ako ng pardon tulad ni Jalosjos?

    Meanwhile in Zamboanga City…kausap si Miss Sexy Reporter sa Cellphone

    Jalosjos: Ano iSynabit ang pangalan ko ni Sanchez? Rapist ako pero hindi ako rapist-murderer na tulad nya. Buhay, buhay yung bata! Kung gusto nyang lumabas, magbigay Sya dami namang nababayaran dyan sa Bilibid, ako diretso sa itaas, diba mam Glo? Kung makakalabas Sya, pwede rin Syang tumakbo under UNA, feel at home Sya. Mga Ex convicts, Plunderers, Rapists, mga Coup plotters, at iba pang mga astigs. Hwag nyo nga pala akong kalimutan sa darating na botohan. Mayor ng Zamboanga City under the Syga party of UNA. Syno sa tingin ko ang ADULTERER ng Sybercrime? PasenSya ka na ija, hindi ako tSysmoso at nagbalik-loob na ako ki God. Plug ko na rin yung programa ko sa mga kabataan dito sa Zambongga: iYOUTH(iyut), bale scholarship yun sa mga edad 12-16 na mga babae, kwalipikaSyon: maganda, sexy at bobo. Tapos ng interbyu, humayo at namigay ng mga kendi sa mga paslit sa lansangan…

    Nag Jeep sa UP Sy Miss Reporter, bumili ng banana q at nang interbyu ng mga frat boys.

    Sygma Rhoan: Pakana yan ng mga UpSylon. Andyan Sy Joker, Pangilinan, Remulla, at Fuentebella.

    UpSylonian: Pakana yan ng mga Sygma Rhoans. Nasa kanila Sy Enrile, Angara, Drilon, Villafuerte, Salas, at lalo na Sy Antonio Carpio.

    Alpha Phi Omega: Nagturuan ang dalwang tunggak. Good! Di nila alam nasa amin Sy Binay at Sy Chiz. Sa rambolan ala Syla sa amin. Pero walang aamin sa amin kaSy may Omerta kami. MafyoSy kami. PreSyetdente Binay 2016, APO, APO, APO!

    Dumaan na rin sa,Ateneo, UST, AMA at LaSalle at nang interbyu ng mga estudyante.

    Atenista: It is quite obvious who is going to benefit from strengthening the punishment of Adultery. Maka SyBiSyPi. Syempre mga taga USTe, mga sarado ang mga utak nyan, utak-Damaso. Kahit Syguro Synabi ng mga taga UST na lemons and cowards yung mga taga LaSalle, Sygurado ako hindi La Sallista yun, kailangan mo above 80 yung IQ para maipalusot mo yung ganong probiSyon. Taga AMA utak komiks pero marunong yun sa computer, remotely Syguro.

    USTe: Atenista yun! Mga Jesuits traydor ang mga yan, meron na naman yan binabalak para mas malakas ang impluenSya nila sa gobyerno. Bulok na style ng mga yan, panahon pa ng inquiSySyon. Pero Sygurado ako hindi LaSallista yun, obvious diba, baka taga AMA.

    Batang AMA: Syet Tsong, Dude.., Anti Cybercrime kami! Mga hackers kami, kita mo yung tumira sa mga webSytes ng gobyerno, Anonymous Philippines, ka-grupo namin Syla. Nagpa cute at sabi, “Miss gusto mo ng fishball?”

    LaSallista: What is that again? Sybercrime…Libel…Adultery? Can you please wait a minute, I’ll have to call my driver, baka alam nya yun.

    Miss Reporter: Hwag na…

    Dumaan na Sy Miss Reporter sa Senado, nag PM sa FB kay Kerry Kennedy at tinanong sa iSyu.

    Kerry Kennedy: Text message-“ Syetnator Syotto!”

    Nadaan Sy Syotto sa hall, interbyu agad ni Miss Reporter.

    Reporter: Syno ho ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Syetnator Syotto: (Nagpapogi muna, hinagod ang bigote at balbas para magmukhang matalino. Pinabilog ang boses) Nainterbyu mo na ba Sy Kennedy?

    Reporter: Oho, sumagot na sa text.

    Syetnator Syotto: Pareho kami ng sagot.

    Solve?

    Sundan ang susunod na kabanata…

  12. 31
    baycas says:

    The exchange between @raissa and ASec Sy involved a hypothetical scenario as everyone already know by this time. I’ll add some…

    @joedelacruise at Comment No. 21 got it right that the email series is a proving fact (the factum probans) that will help in proving adultery (the factum probandum).

    @Rene-Ipil at Comment No. 15 also got it right in introducing the computer (and, thus, the online world too) as the prime element of proving cyber adultery. Examples are a person engaging in extramarital cyber sex who was caught in the act by the spouse or a recorded video starring a married person engaged in cyber sex with a person other than the spouse.

    We can see here that in both cases, (1) proving adultery by an email series and (2) proving cyber adultery by the act itself, the use of a computer and the online (virtual) world are present.

    The difference is that in case number 1, the email series is only the factum probans in proving adultery. In the latter, the act itself constitutes both the factum probans and the factum probandum in proving cyber adultery. However, an email series, if available as evidence, may also be a factum probans in order to strengthen case number 2.

    What is probably being ignored that is causing confusion is the fact that sexual intercourse in the virtual world happens. Regardless if virtual or real, sexual intercourse results in gratification. Physical penetration and exchange of body fluids need not be present.

    The offense is Cyber Adultery. Fact is, cyber [bleep] may exist, but perhaps, harder to prove.

    However, must it involve a one-degree higher penalty? I don’t know. I guess the difficulty in proving such an offense will merit such punishment…

    • 31.1
      baycas says:

      What I meant to say in the last paragraph was…

      However, must it involve a one-degree higher penalty? I don’t know. I guess the relative ease in committing and the difficulty in proving such an offense will merit such punishment…

    • 31.2
      raissa says:

      Hmmm. The good Assec may even now copying what you wrote.

    • 31.3
      baycas says:

      In general, an “operational definition” or functional definition of terms must be given…especially in proposed laws. This will prevent confusion.

      The excessive speed in making the Cybercrime Prevention Act was made led to uncertainties which led to unimaginable fear.

      Haste makes waste (HMW).

      —–

      Off-topic but somehow related…

      Constitutionally, the floor has always been open since 1987 to create an operational definition of “political dynasty”.

      Absent such definition, the perceived “political dynasty” does not exist.

    • 31.4
      Parekoy says:

      “sexual intercourse results in gratification”

      This definition of sex can always free the woman. The guy can’t fake the gratification, but the woman can argue that she was just faking it. Now this is tilted towards the woman…hmmm

      • 31.4.1
        Parekoy says:

        If the wife is doing the act with a lesbian, then there is no adultery?

        • 31.4.1.1
          baycas says:

          Offhand, I don’t know…

          Try checking if the RPC is gender-sensitive.

          • 31.4.1.1.1
            leona says:

            “Penetration” or ‘carnal knowledge’ [Rev.Penal Code] covers all forms and kinds…penis, tongue, finger, toe, atbpa! Lesbians ‘can’ have all these even ‘put-on belt type penis!” [Made in China & Japan]. It BLEEPS too!

      • 31.4.2
        baycas says:

        @Parekoy on No. 29.4…

        There you go…operational definition, again, is needed.

        Sexual intercourse in the real world may be different in the virtual world.

        But the fact that the f_ck [insert another bleep here] was consummated then either adultery or cyber adultery was committed.

  13. 30
    PCC says:

    I sent you an email regarding an extremely important matter about the cyberlaw that needs equal and full attention just like the libel part but nobody seems to notice it. There are enough lawyers pounding for the removal of the libel part , the search without warrant but no one has notice a part of the law the will hinder and bind the hands of current and future generation of internet guys from creating great websites.
    I want you to be the 1st one to write about it.
    Check your spam folders.
    If you cant find it, email me.
    I want it to remain confidential for the moment. analyze it. It is absolutely important that this should be brought to the attention of the public and should also be scrapped from whatever would be left of the cyber law (if the SC allow a revised cyberlaw new edition).
    It is Anti Filipino, Anti Filipino businessmen, Anti cyber rights and productivity of Filipino, Anti Filipino opportunity, anti internet technology. If this unnoticed part of the cyber law pass, it will literally put multitudes of internet guys (now and future generations) in danger and thus, will forever make the Philippines uncompetitive in the Internet age. It is about one of the very foundation of the internet, and the crappy cyberlaw will basically hinder or limit Filipinos to grab opportunities.

  14. 29
    RM says:

    i am not a supporter of this law as in fact i hate this law. but i hope you allow me to say my thoughts on your questions.There is no such crime as cyber adultery. let me be clear on that. If you will file an information in court charging the accused of the crime of “cyber adultery” the judge will dismiss it outright on the ground that the facts charged do not constitute an offense under Rule 117 of the Rules of Court. Even if the counsel for the defendant failed to file a motion to quash the information. the judge can motu proprio dismiss it. Another ground for dismissal is that the court has no jurisdiction over the offense charged because no such offense exists. how do we know that no such offense exists? we consult the revised penal code and the relevant special laws. so far no law has ever defined a crime such as cyber adultery. the rule is you cannot prosecute a person for a crime that does not exist. we cannot just identify an act and conclude that it is a crime say frustrated manslaughter there is no such crime that is defined under our laws even though it may exist in other countries. that would be dismissed outright as well. why is this so? because it is the constitutional right of every accused to be informed of the nature and cause of accusation against him. We also have to take note about the concept of bill of attainder and ex post facto law. the things i am talking about is not subject to a debate unless you are a lawyer, a law student, or a person who has devoted his whole life studying our judicial system in the Philippines. these things are very technical which cannot just be understood by reading blogs and news and opinion of others. you have to read our revised penal code. you have to read our family code. you have to read our constitution. you have to read the rules on civil procedure as well as criminal procedure and also the rules on evidence particularly the admissibility of evidence there are a bunch of requisites in order for an evidence to be admissible. you have to know what an object evidence is. what a documentary and testimonial evidence refer to. the best evidence rule the parol evidence rule the spousal immunity or the marital disqualification rule and distinguish it from marital privileged communication and from parental and filial privilege which you also have to connect in the provision under the Family Code particularly art. 215 regarding when the testimony of the witness is considered indispensable in a crime as an exception to the general rule and what crimes covered and committed by whom. this is why the study of law takes four years. it is not like we see a law we read it and then we understand it already no. we should not assume too much that we know about it especially if that is not our field of specialization.

    what is my point? i am not faulting anyone here who does not understand legal terms and principles precisely because law is a profession and not everyone pursues that profession. i cannot imagine what the world would be like if we are all lawyers. am i saying that you should just shut up instead? again, that is not my point. i am not saying that just because we dont understand these stuff we should just shut up instead. my point simply is it is okay to form our opinion and to express it for as long as we are knowledgeable about what we are talking about. just imagine talking about stuff pertaining to the practice of medicine and making it sound like we are licensed physicians when in fact we are not. We would sound utterly ridiculous actually from the point of view of the medical practitioners. it is okay to be a critic it is okay to be curious and inquisitive and aware of the happenings in our society. in fact everyone should be aware of what is happening to our society. but there are stuff like these things that we should be extra careful in commenting on otherwise we will sound ludicrous. its okay if we sound ludicrous but the problem is people who are likewise not knowledgeable about such matter will take it as gospel truth. look at us now we are talking discussing debating about cyber adultery when in fact it does not even exist.

    there is no cyber adultery but only adultery. and it does not refer to the Christians’ concept of what adultery is about. adultery is a designation of the crime explicitly defined under our Revised Penal Code and nothing else. under art. 333 of the RPC Adultery is committed by any married woman who shall have sexual intercourse with a man not her husband and by the man who has carnal knowledge of her knowing her to be married, even if the marriage be subsequently declared void. this is the only definition that we should follow for purposes of criminal prosecution in our country. adultery may have many other meanings but that should not concern us. we should not alter the words of the law. we should not modify the terms used. we should not interpret the meaning the way we understand it in layman’s terms. the words used may appear simple but they are not. there are hundreds and even thousands of cases already decided by the Supreme Court defining what a carnal knowledge means depending on the facts of the case. in one case (people vs. bormeo G.R. No. 91734. March 30, 1993.) decided by the supreme court carnal knowledge has been defined as the act of a man having sexual bodily connections with a woman; sexual intercourse. An essential ingredient thereof is the penetration of the female sexual organ by the sexual organ of the male. In cases of rape, however, mere proof of the entrance of the male organ into the labia of the pudendum or lips of the female organ is sufficient to constitute a basis for conviction. see? these a very very technical terms to which we should study before commenting on. do we apply the above definition of carnal knowledge in adultery? is the same as sexual intercourse in adultery? how do we prove carnal knowledge in adultery? can we prove it even without direct evidence? what is a direct evidence in the first place? how is it different from a circumstantial evidence? how about relevant evidence? corroborative evidence? material evidence? cumulative evidence? parol evidence? hearsay evidence? can we just define these stuff on our own? no. can we just cite internet definitions? no. they have technical meanings in our rules on evidence. Raissa is talking about factum probandum and factum probans and cites its meaning from i forgot what source but you see these things have precise meanings. factum probandum is the fact in issue. factum probans is the evidentiary fact by which a factum probandum is to be proved. does that make sense? i can go on and on and on but no one will ever understand me. the factum probandum in the crime of adultery for instance is whether or not the accused had sexual intercourse with a woman not his wife on the eve of bla bla bla at the house of bla bla bla. the factum probans is the evidentiary fact. the semen found on the floor. the underwear of the accused left in the room of the woman. the bystander who saw the man entered the house of the woman. these all constitute circumstantial evidence and by that it means evidence on collateral matters which establishes in any reasonable degree the probability or improbability of the fact in issue – the factum probandum. It may also constitute a direct evidence if there was witness who say the particular act. The would directly prove the fact in issue. is circumstantial evidence sufficient to convict a person of the crime of adultery? for this question we consult the jurisprudence. we consult the revised penal code. we look for precedents in past cases.

    the problem seems to be that catch all provision in the cybercrime law which provides SEC. 6. All crimes defined and penalized by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws, if committed by, through and with the use of information and communications technologies shall be covered by the relevant provisions of this Act: Provided, That the penalty to be imposed shall be one (1) degree higher than that provided for by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws, as the case may be.

    is there really a problem with the provision and the example of raissa? to my mind theres none. why? because we cannot commit the crime of adultery ” through and with the use of information and communications technologies xxx” but the section says ALL CRIMES… so? to answer these we must know the elements of each crime. as for adultery it must be committed by having sexual intercourse. can there be adultery without sexual intercourse? no. how about through skype? is that possible? again we refer to the definition of sexual intercourse as defined under our jurisprudence and not on any source found in the internet. it must be one where the male’s penis must have contact with the female’s vagina. so can we do it through skype? of course not. so what now? can we still commit adultery through the use of information and communications technology? of course not. so can we still be prosecuted with adultery under the RPC in relation to the cybercrime law? of course not. how about murder? homicide? parricide? if you know the elements of each crime you know will know the answer. but let me illustrate a situation where you may be held liable both for violation of the cybercrime law and a crime as defined under the RPC. Estafa. there are different ways to commit estafa. im referring to a specific mode which i will not cite anymore because im tired already. but im sure it can be an example of a crime which will not only make u liable under RPC and the cybercrime law if committed through the use of bla bla bla… i am already tired and i dont even know why i am here in the comments section but i hope you appreciate what i just said. again i would like to make it clear that i am not faulting anyone of you for lack of knowledge of the legal intricacies of the lawyer’s profession. it is not your fault. unless you’re a lawyer and you argue like a layman you absolutely do not have a place in the legal community. i wanna make it clear also that i am not a supporter of the cybercrime law as in fact i abhor the law for many reasons and some of which are even the same as those raised by raissa. good night everyone

    • 29.1
      raissa says:

      Of course there is no such crime yet as cyber adultery.

      Because we are still operating under the Revised Penal Code and special laws and the Family Code, etc. The Cybercrime Prevention Act is not yet in effect since it’s still under a TRO. But if it goes into effect, there will be cyber adultery.

      • 29.1.1
        RM says:

        Raissa… you know in the practice of law we do not fit things that cannot fit. There is only one way to commit adultery. that is by having sexual intercourse. i do not even have to mention that it should be committed by a married woman. for as long as there is no sexual intercourse there can be no adultery. but of course you insist that once the TRO is lifted there will be a cyber adultery. that for know it is merely suspended. i say whether or not the TRO is lifted there can never be a cyber adultery. again we cannot prosecute a person for a crime that does not exist. a crime must be defined. and the only definition we can refer to insofar as criminal prosecution is concerned is the revised penal code. the cyber crime law does not define what a cyber adultery is. i would not have a problem if it is defined there but the problem is theres none. it is not like oh theres this law and theres that law and then lets mix them and voila another law! we cannot do that. nullum crimen sine poena, nulla poena sine lege – there is no crime without a penalty and there is no penalty without a law. but of course you insist again that all crimes in the rpc can be committed through the use of information technology etc by virtue of that all encompassing provision. but Raissa the fact that it mentions ALL CRIMES does not mean that we ignore the elements of each crimes as defined in the RPC and in the decided cases. that we just focus instead on the cybercrime law. that is not a correct interpretation. i say that if the elements of a crime as defined under the RPC is SUCH THAT it cannot be made applicable to a certain law then we simply do not have to apply that. otherwise stated there has to be that logic in the relating the commission of a crime with the use of information technology etc. maledicta est expositio quae corrumpit textum – it is dangerous construction which is against the text.

        otherwise stated, for you to be liable both under the cybercrime law and the crime of adultery as defined in the RPC, the use of information technology etc. must be such that it is indispensable in the commission of the crime. alright let me give you an scenario… say A and B are married. B the wife went to the house of her neighbor C, a man. both engaged in sexual intercourse in the past without the knowledge of A the legal husband. now say for instance C, the man took out his iphone 5 and inserted it in the vagina of B then had the vibration turned on and the latter was shaking and screaming at the top of her lungs saying deeper! deeper! A the husband heard it and recognized her wife’s voice. so he went to the apartment of C to see for himself what was happening and boom. they were caught in the act of doing the deed. so A decided to file a criminal action. Question: what crime may B and C be held liable for, if any? the answer is of course is adultery. not cyber adultery but adultery. the fact that C inserted his iphone inside the vagina of B does not make the cybercrime law applicable because carnal knowledge or sexual intercourse is also defined by jurisprudence as the act a person inserting his penis or any other object in the vagina of a woman. Ratio legis est anima legis – the reason of the law is its soul. consequently, when the cybercrime law mentions electronics or computer devices in relation to the commission of another crime we do not apply everything literally. if it is inapplicable then we do not apply it. Finally, there is this last principle i want you to memorize by heart, and this is helpful in reading other laws too – hoc quidem perquam durum est, sed ita lex scripta est – it is exceedingly hard but so the law is written. peace.

        PS i myself want to have that law declared null and void too. i also raise fears on that provision too and for that reason it must be stricken down or declared unconstitutional. just so you know we’re on the same page. =)

        • 29.1.1.1
          raissa says:

          You are going by the current legal definition of the word “sexual intercourse”. What if this definition changes due to technology?

          • 29.1.1.1.1
            raissa says:

            You are looking at the law from the prism of today and yesterday.

            I am looking at the law from what could happen in the future when the definition of “adultery” or “sexual intercourse” could change.

            Recall that the definition of rape changed dramatically in our law. Penetration is no longer required to establish rape.

            By the way, I’m curious as to your take on the fact that if – as you say – there is no cyber adultery – why is it included in this law?

            • RM says:

              i tried to locate for the term. i could not find it. what section are you specifically referring to? if you are referring again to sec. 6 then i do not think i can make any further explanation. that already involves the study of basic criminal law principles. fact is, the law did not enumerate which crime will it be applicable under the rpc it would be too burdensome. the law rather assumed that it can be applied only to a crime where it is essential to the consummation of the crime defined under the rpc. if it is not essential in order to consummate the crime then it is not applicable. if there exists what call as cyber adultery does that mean that there is also cyber murder? cyber homicide? cyber serious physical injuries? does that automatically make a computer a deadly weapon? the corpus delicti in the crime? that if u throw a computer to a person and the person died what? you are now guilty of cyber murder? how about if you are texting while driving then you hit a person and the person died. what? cyber reckless imprudence resulting in homicide? i did not know that this is how deadly the law is.

              • raissa says:

                You said –

                “fact is, the law did not enumerate which crime will it be applicable under the rpc it would be too burdensome. the law rather assumed that it can be applied only to a crime where it is essential to the consummation of the crime defined under the rpc. it would be too burdensome. the law rather assumed that it can be applied only to a crime where it is essential to the consummation of the crime defined under the rpc”

                And you accept that just like that?

                That, I believe, is one of the major weaknesses of the law.

                You’re saying – “it would be too burdensome..”

                To whom?

                To lawmakers whom we are paying just to make laws?

                Because of this wholesale cramming of this law, it will become burdensome to the Filipino citizen. I will write a separate post explaining why.

      • 29.1.2
        leona says:

        @RM…you said, quote – ‘ i am already tired and i dont even know why i am here in the comments section xxx.’

        How do we know that what you really commented here is true or correct, when you admit that you don’t even know why you came here? Does it include also ‘how surprised are you, you found this place?’ Like saying to the judge “Judge, I don’t know why and how I’m here! ” Judge: Huh? What are you doing here then?” You: Judge, I don’t really know!” Judge: Sytankyo! Call next Case! You have permission to syleave – ‘Pre!” …joke only. Relax.

        Take Raissa’s reply. It will come true [maybe]. Nothing is impossible in ‘sylawing.’ Believe me, you know there is even in law an ‘impossible crime’! Everything is possible in law! Many here and out there will be charged & 50% convicted under sybercrime law even if syainnocent by syprosecs & syajudges! Na saan na si MRP aka RPM?

        • 29.1.2.1
          vander anievas says:

          everything is possible in the PHL. pinoys are so creative. ginawa ngang fertilizer and tubig!…

        • 29.1.2.2
          moonie says:

          many times, I think, RM was quoting, quoting, quoting from a book. endlessly. many times too, I wonder, if he can give summary. or think laterally. we are the people, we make common law.

          the problem with law is that it has to play catch up with modern terms and technology. it look for precedents in the past. but we are not about precedents here, we are about to break into newer grounds. and I think, law is afraid, it is on unprecedented ground, and might just find itself lacking. playing catch-up.

      • 29.1.3
        Rene-Ipil says:

        RM @29 & Raissa @ 29.1

        With due respect, I beg to disagree your honors. I believe there is now a crime of cyber adultery as provided in article 333 of the Revised Penal Code (RPC) and section 6 of RA 10175, known as the Cybercrime Law (CCL). While the crime of cyber adultery has been existing already, a TRO was issued to suspend its enforcement up to February 5, 2013. The problem lies on the failure of the lawmakers to qualify adultery and designate a specific name or nomenclature for a crime which subsumes the elements of adultery and adopted another element concerning computer use.

        For example, the crime designated by the RPC as theft becomes qualified theft when the theft is committed with grave abuse of confidence, or by domestic servants, among six qualifications, and is added to the basic elements of taking personal property of another, etc. In the advent of CCL, the use of computer in theft makes the crime a qualified theft. While qualified theft is penalized two degrees higher than (simple) theft, cyber theft is penalized only one degree higher.

        In CCL adultery has been qualified only by the use of computer. So it could rightly be called cyber adultery instead of qualified adultery for clarity. While qualified theft gets a penalty two degrees higher, “qualified” adultery gets one degree higher penalty.

        So, let’s get real. Cyber adultery or qualified adultery stares us on the face. But it cannot hit us because the Supreme Court hog tied it.

        I also wish that, as much as possible, the lawyers among the CPMers would comment in such manner that non-lawyers would understand. So, with due respect to RM, I hope that the lawyers in CPM would write like a layman. I understand it would not be very difficult. One way is to avoid legal maxims in latin. Theoretically, the only difference between a layman and a lawyer is not on the knowledge about basic laws. Remember that ignorance of the law excuses no one. They differ only on knowledge about procedural laws, i.e., criminal and civil procedures, etc.. Even non-trial lawyers are having difficulty in understanding, much less explaining, pertinent procedures in law.

        • 29.1.3.1
          raissa says:

          Very interesting explanation, you have.

        • 29.1.3.2
          RM says:

          i still cannot understand how on earth can you commit the act of sexual intercourse which is the constitutive element of the crimes of adultery with the use of computers. u may say that the definition of a sexual intercourse changes over time. but no. unless it is otherwise explicitly defined by a law then we have to abide by the definition laid down by the supreme court. and that is penetration of the penis to the vagina. no more no less. cybercrime law did not define sexual intercourse in relation to adultery. in fact it is not even a law which concerns adultery. i am talking about a crime as defined under the RPC for purposes of criminal prosecution. you go to court ask the judge hey judge this man right here is accused of cyber adultery. good luck with that.

          the problem is we do not study how the law is to be understood. in fact we do not study the law at all. we tend to define terms on our own because that is how we understood it. that is not how we do it in practice. courts do not listen to our opinions. it is weightless. in fact it is inadmissible in evidence except in certain cases. where the law does not define it we do not define it. we do not make assumptions. we do not make conjectures. we do not make conclusions based on incompetent understanding. but that is okay. i forgot this is a blog. so you can basically discuss and debate about practically anything under the sun. supplying suppositions assumptions or definitions that are neither based on law nor reason. these is your arena. this is the court of public opinion and to that i concede. thank you for all the response. good bye.

          • 29.1.3.2.1
            raissa says:

            I’ll explain the new technology of how – in a separate post :)

          • 29.1.3.2.2
            Baltazar says:

            Let’s see what Raissa is keeping in store for us.
            @rm, a big appreciation to what you have shared.I have read every bit of it though I sometimes get disturbed by the all-lowercase letters – Peace! But just like what @parekoy said, try laymanning the terms ;-) .

          • 29.1.3.2.3
            Rene-Ipil says:

            RM@ 29.1 January 13, 2013, 3:00PM

            Here is a blow by blow account of how a computer is used in committing the crime of adultery. It is not how you do the act of sexual intercourse using computer akin to a condom or oil or lotion. It is about how without the use of computer, the married woman would not be able to meet the man who does not know that she is married. Without the same meeting of course, there would be no sexual intercourse or penetration of the said man’s organ to the said woman’s organ.

            Here is how it goes. Mar and Rena have not met each other in person before. A common friend provided Mar with the cell phone number of Rena who is looking for a lover. Mar lives in a place which only means of communication is via cell phone and internet. Mar and Rena became pals via cell phone, email and Skype. Later on they decided to meet at Boracay. Mar paid airline ticket online and got e-ticket for both. Mar also made online reservation in a resort in Boracay. Using google maps, Mar and Rena pinpointed the place where they would meet in Boracay. In the Boracay resort, Mar met Rena and made payments using his credit card. They entered their room using an e-card. And they engaged in SSS – safe and satisfying sex.

            Without the computer or information technology, do you think Mar and Rena could have indulged themselves into SSS?

            • raissa says:

              I like the new meaning of “SSS”.

            • baycas says:

              @Rene-Ipil,

              Still, factum probans for adultery (under the RPC).

            • RM says:

              let me help you out brother… i assume you are a devoted law student… thats very good… but i am very sure that you have not reached your 3rd year yet in law school. i can very well say that because in the facts that you have given you have equated those circumstances as indispensable in the commission of the crime of adultery. if that is the facts that you have given me, and i am the lawyer, heck i do not even have to present a witness who will testify directly that he saw the act. what i will do instead is to offer those pieces of evidence in court namely: (assuming of course that it is admissible in evidence) (1) cellphone conversations, (2) internet records, (3) the airline e-ticket, the google maps? naaah irrelevent… (4) the receipt of the payments using the credit card, (5) e-card…

              wowwww…….. with all the pieces of evidence like that tsk only the dumbest lawyer can lose that case. but here is the question bro… as for the crime of adultery, what is the fact to be proved? the factum probandum? okay in layman’s terms what do we need to establish or prove so that one can be made liable for the crime of adultery? if you still recall your study in criminal law, a first year subject constituting 4 units, that is if you really are a law student, there is this thing we call the “elements” of a crime. what do you mean elements you might ask. why should i be concerned about the elements of a crime? bro, elements of a crime consist of facts that you need to establish with so that when ALL the elements of a crime are PRESENT then… you can say this accused is liable for such crime. are my words too technical here? am i being too legalese? okay, otherwise stated, if one OR some OR all of the elements of a crime are not present, then it is time for you to pack up your things and leave the court because you have no case.

              do you still follow me? okay, now that you understand (i hope) the concept of how a crime is proved in court we now go to a specific example. adultery. accordingly, the elements of adultery are the ff: (1) that the woman is married; (2) that she has sexual intercourse with a man not her husband; (3) that as regards the man with whom she has sexual intercourse, he must know her to be married. the 3rd element applies to men only. meaning, he will only be liable for the crime of adultery if he had knowledge that the woman is married. for all we know the man is seriously in love with the woman except that he does not know that she is married. kawawa naman xa. anyway, it goes without saying, that the only facts that we need to prove so that a woman can be held liable for the crime of adultery are nos. 1 and 2. as for the first element there is no problem if you can present the marriage certificate or contract in the court. they are the best evidence to prove the fact of marriage. but how about the second element? if you can present a witness in court who can testify that he personally saw Mar and Rena having sex, your problem is solved. and the judge will even thank you because you help lessen his work. all the elements are now established and are sufficient to support the conviction of Rena for the crime of adultery.

              But what if you do not have a witness who can testify as to the sexual intercourse? remember that this kind of evidence, under the rules which i am sure you are not familiar with, is called DIRECT EVIDENCE because it directly proves the facts that need to be proved to win a case. it goes without saying that if you do not have the witness mentioned above then you do not have any direct evidence to prove the crime.

              still following? now, since we do not have a direct evidence, are we now hopeless??? of course not. a good lawyer will not give up and abandon the case. a good lawyer will think of other ways to win a case. one of which is by proving the fact that needs to be proved through what we call CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. as to weight, it is weaker than the direct evidence. direct evidence is heavier and stronger than circumstantial evidence. from the word itself it refers to circumstances. what do we do with these circumstances? think of them like pieces of a puzzle. you need to pick up the pieces of the puzzle so as to see the picture. what picture? this picture must be something that will tell you that indeed a crime has been committed and that the accused is probably guilty of the crime.

              bored already? dont worry ill wind up. so what is an example of a circumstantial evidence? the following can be is the best example. and this i quote from you:

              “Mar and Rena have not met each other in person before. A common friend provided Mar with the cell phone number of Rena who is looking for a lover. Mar lives in a place which only means of communication is via cell phone and internet. Mar and Rena became pals via cell phone, email and Skype. Later on they decided to meet at Boracay. Mar paid airline ticket online and got e-ticket for both. Mar also made online reservation in a resort in Boracay. Using google maps, Mar and Rena pinpointed the place where they would meet in Boracay. In the Boracay resort, Mar met Rena and made payments using his credit card. They entered their room using an e-card.”

              with the first element and the second element established can she now be convicted of the crime of adultery? the answer is yes. where is your cybercrime law there? oh but you might say hey those e tickets and e cards the skype etc. without them you cannot prove adultery! therefore adultery is committed with the use of those stuff therefore they are indispensable to the crime hence penalized under the cyber crime law!!! therefore i am right and you are wrong! well bro, isn’t that what you have been trying to point out in your earlier posts?

              i am so disappointed. you have grossly misunderstood the law. let me ask you again. are those things indispensable for the commission of the crime as defined under the RPC? are those things indispensable in PROVING the commission of the crime under the facts you gave?

              as to the first question, refer to the elements of a crime. consult your RPC. as to the second question, recall our lesson earlier regarding circumstantial evidence.

              Conclusion: do not confuse the factum probandum with the factum probans. also do not confuse proof and evidence. proof is the effect of evidence. meaning without evidence, there is no proof. my, friend you need to enroll yourself in law school because you seem to be too much interested with this profession. i can see a bright future in you. you are full of idealisms. hold on to it. see you in court. =)

              • raissa says:

                I have answered you in a new post

              • Alan says:

                How fortunate we are to be graced by the presence of the Lord of Justice himself. I wonder how many ambulances he chases

              • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

                No wonder the Philippine Law cannot be understood by laymen compared to AMerican law because they still speak in tongue.

              • Parekoy says:

                @RM

                I’m grateful with your lecture. I’m convinced that indeed you are a Filipino Lawyer, with your pompousity and condescending manner (DIRECT EVIDENCE? Please correct me sir.) and very good presentation of facts and hypotheticals, you pricked the litigious part of my brain.

                @CPM

                Lawyering is a different kind of animal, behaviour sometimes are least to be desired, but it is indeed a profession looked down by many. We need them. With time, their style will be an acquired taste. Please accord him with the same respect as we do to some nutcases here. I can see how vital it is have visiting professors in their field of some expertise. I appreciate the diversity this site welcomes and I bet that this is healthy.

                @RM

                Sir, I’m looking forward to your series of interesting lectures! Again, thank you for trying to illuminate the nuances, we will digest and might have further clarifications too.

              • tristanism says:

                Why do I get this feeling that you’re talking down to a lot of people here?

                Is it because you actually are talking down to a lot of people here?

                Not sexy, dude.

                I do enjoy reading your comments, though.

              • Joe America says:

                “factum probandum”, ahahahahahaha. It sounds like a guy’s sex organ at work. I believe baycas is keeping a count of applications.

                I tell you, this CPM crowd has gone up-intellectual on us. I fully expect Father Bernas to join the next debate on the Church. It’s all Mariano’s fault, always demanding more . . .

              • Parekoy says:

                @joe

                I believe that Pacifico’s (the special kid, not the lucid) presence virtually uplifted individual standard without us doing anything. He lowers the mean that suddenly everybody notches up. But, I will not give him credit for myself doing more. I give the credit to raissa for posting topics that pricks our interests and being passive to give everybody the opportunity to shine.

              • Rene-Ipil says:

                RM@29.1 January 16, 2013 11:42PM

                With due respect, it seems that we are arguing on two different but related cases. Yours is a case of (simple) adultery while mine is qualified adultery – adultery with the use of information technology (IT). Your case does not include the use of IT as a fact-in-issue or what you term as factum probandum in Latin. I understand that the use of IT is not merely a fact proving a certain allegation, i.e., that the cell phone number of Rena was given to Mar by his friend. The use of IT in my case must be proved to secure conviction for qualified adultery because it is a fact-in-issue, that is, the sexual intercourse could not have been consummated without the use of IT. BTW I forgot to allege that Mar was a “virgin” and could not distinguish the genital from the anus. So he got the picture of a naked woman focused on that genital area in his iPad which he positioned in his front to properly guide him while consummating the sexual intercourse and having SSS. Reminder: my story about Mar and Rena is purely fiction but in the realm of possibility.

                Thank you for your advice that I should enroll in a law school. But I think no reputable law school will enroll me.

              • pinay710 says:

                @sir RM, maraming salamat po. nadagdagan na naman ang kaalaman ko.

          • 29.1.3.2.4
            moonie says:

            I think law listens intently to opinions, contrary to what RM said. that’s why they ask the presence of experts like doctor, nurses, forensic pathologists, etc. in the courts of law, and ask for their opinions. I have friends who have provided expert opinions in court, and believe me, those opinions matter a lot. opinions even sink and discredit a witness.

            • Gene Simmowns says:

              OT: I have learned a lot of things from the exchanges. Keep it coming please. :)

              B TW, naglie low ata si Marianito?

            • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

              FORENSIC PATHOLOGISTS? What have you been reading all these years ? New YOrk Times? Boston Globe? Der Speigel? la Parisiene ?

              This is the Philippines we are talking about. FOREINSIC PATHOLOGIST IS SOOOOO FOREIGN TO THESE PEOPLE.

              Go ahead ask Alan and Raissa if they ever covered murdered news that used FORENSIC PATHOLOGISTS.

              • raissa says:

                Yes

              • Parekoy says:

                @Pacifico

                If you are not absolutely sure that the answer will not be to your benefit to prove you are correct, don’t ask the question.

                Usual mistakes of neophyte trial lawyers. If you are one, then charge this to experience and be thankful that it is not inside the courtroom.

                Lick your wounds, suck it up, sleep, and wake up a learned man.

                Syet…that reminds me…need a nap, be wiser!

              • moonie says:

                isn’t dr rachel fortun our country’s current forensic pathologist? her expert opinion shot down the atimonan ‘shoot out’. she’s also involved in the ampatuan massacre case.

    • 29.2
      Parekoy says:

      @RM

      Wow! This is a pro bono opinion!

      I agree that we need more lawyers here, those who can translate legalese into layman’s term.

      With the lure of that biblical salacious sin, Adultery, this site becomes even more stronger. If it may not be asking too much from you, can you please disect the implications and complications of the cyber libel provisions?

      Thanks RM!

      • 29.2.1
        RM says:

        the libel provision is a surplusage in the statute. it is not needed. it is already defined under the RPC. under art. 355 of our RPC, a libel may be committed by means of writing, printing, lithography, engraving, radio, phonograph, painting, theatrical exhibition, cinematographic exhibition, or ANY SIMILAR MEANS xxx. when the code was drafted there was no internet yet. but it doesn’t mean that online articles cannot be considered libelous under the definition of RPC. by sheer use of logic, if it can be committed by means of or with the use of an engraving which is very hard to do then there is every reason that it can be committed with the use of internet. ex necessitate legis – by necessary implication of law.

        but if cybercrime law takes effect indeed can we prosecute a person for the crime of libel both under the cybercrime law and under the RPC? possible… because the cybercrime law says without prejudice to the criminal liability under the RPC. it is like bribery. a single act by a public officer accused of bribery under art. 210 of our revised penal code may also be charged with violation of RA 3019 violation of anti graft and corrupt practices act. he may also be held liable for the crime of plunder and anti money laundering act as well as obstruction of justice if the circumstances warrant. so thats the danger there.

        • 29.2.1.1
          moonie says:

          thank you, RM, I believe this is your opinion? and may even be subject to another lawyer’s opinion?

    • 29.3
      Rolly says:

      We can learn many things from @RM, hope the visit would come in regular interval.

      We have to remember that the discussions, arguments and debates is hapenning online, here on a blogsite…not on a court of law. We may be non-lawyers, but we have general perceptions of what law is about…it affects our daily lives, therefore discourses should rather be encouraged instead.

      Our brilliant lawyers around can satisfactorily convinced lay people that the color red is actually green, and the green is red, depending on the time of day or the mood of the individual lawyer…the same, goes with the interpretation of the law.

      • 29.3.1
        moonie says:

        rolly, please let us not forget that there are deviants around. there are people who are color blind and live among us, and can give us the most trouble. we have to have an open mind. we can question a lawyer, although valued, his/her opinion may differ from another lawyer. their judgement can be revoked that’s why we have courts of appeal. let us not be overly awed by lawyers. they’re humans too, and make mistakes. often to our detriments.

  15. 28
    Yvonne says:

    I’m not a lawyer, and have no legal background, so allow me to ask these questions in the hope that some of our CPMers, or better yet Assistant Secretary Sy, might be able to provide some clarity:

    1. Is the proposed crime of cyber adultery a crime against an individual, or a crime against the people? Who will prosecute? Under this proposed law would a spouse be compelled to testify against the erring spouse?

    2. Is cyber sex between a married person and a lover who is not his/her spouse an act of cyber adultery, or is carnal knowledge (or penetration, with apologies to @ baycas) a necessary element for cyber adultery to occur?

    3. Consider a hypothetical situation where a married woman (or man) committed cyber adultery but her spouse, in an attempt at marital reconciliation, forgave her and both even seek counseling but things still did not work out. Can the married woman be still charged with cyber adultery, or is the crime extinguished by virtue of the forgiveness by the offended spouse?

    4. Now, consider another hypothetical situation where a married OFW divorced his wife in the Philippines and started a new family overseas. His wife who is left alone caring for their children in the Philippines eventually takes on a lover out of loneliness and frustration. Assuming a computer, or a smart phone, was used in their sexual escapades, can the wife be charged of cyber adultery from the viewpoint that she is still considered to be married because divorce is not recognized in the Philippines?

    It seems to me that the proposed law on cyber adultery is too intrusive, too broad, and too vague that it should be declared unconstitutional.

    • 28.1
      macspeed says:

      the cyber crime law is definetely vague and shall only be used by oppurtunist and alike….

      cyber crimes requires only regulations, punihment can be just merely ban from sites.

      Real crime such as one is killed and the killer left traces on the net can be used to pin

      down the offenders or murderers ….

      • 28.1.1
        leona says:

        @macspeed…it is also vague – your explanation to @Yvonne who asked specific questions. Dagdagan natin…

        Q.1 = it is a crime against the State once the innocent spouse’s COMPLAINT is filed in court. “Pple Phil vs Guilty Spouse.” State prosecutes Star Witness Inn.Spouse who is a “willing witness” no need to compel.

        Q.2 = Acc to Cybercrime law, isang kalokohan na Batas, yan tanong mo ay cyber adultery basta may BLEEP PENETRATION! [Salamat kay @baycas] kasama CARNAL KNOWLEDGE sa bleep bleep [ dalawang crimes na yun!]. Bleeps elemento yun sa krimen.

        Q.3 = Cannot be charge anymore once FORGIVEN and forgiveness should include also the BLEEPER LOVER or ‘syota ‘o syoto.’ Maski di natuloy ang reconciliation.

        Q.4 = The OFW who became an Arab BLEEPER cannot complain against the wife if wife also BLEEPED in the Philippines due to Arab bleeping in Middle East. It is what we can call BLEEPING IN PARI DELICTO…complaining spouse must be without ANY BLEEP OFFENSE…BE ‘with clean hands.!’

        p.s. Both BLEEPERS will have bleepos-children also, Arabs and Pinoys! Nasaan si RPM? hahaha…

        • 28.1.1.1
          macspeed says:

          @leona, you are now as well CS Cultured Shocked he he he he

          he is probably mending his domestic problem with his wife for his cybercrime>>> to much CPM he he he he

  16. 27
    letlet says:

    Mr President, PNOY

    An open ltter to you

    Before signing any bills for laws, could you please thoroughly scrutinize them, that they are for the good of the common tao. Also, please see to it that your officials- cabinet or senators- are not using you for their own selfish ends specially in passing laws. The ruination of these people are causing you would be devastating on your Presidency. It seems our government officials are using their power of positions to extricate subtly from their personal vendetta (Sotto- plagiarism, online libel) personal vested interest and personal whims and caprices ( Assec Sy, are you contemplating affairs with single women?)

    Raissa’s blogging is very right to raise concerns that would tremendously affect the common tao as a whole. She augurs well for fairness and equality between husband and wife in terms of penalty, much better if husband received penalty one degree higher. Are married women being treated as second class citizens, which is a sex disrcrimination? We, Raissa’s bloggers/commenters, have our own intellect to dissect the facts presented by her. The chilling effect only occurs when the truthfulness of her facts are too hard to ignore, thus, has a galvanizing effect on her bloggers/commenters. I wonder if Assec Sy is trying to stifle Raissa’s ( by singling her out) argumentation of truth, as it is a subtle way of curbing free speech and expression.

    • 27.1
      leona says:

      hear! hear! hear! read! read! rea! Btw, ‘adultery’ as originally in 1870 Spanish Penal Code where our penal code was based, granted DIVORCE to the innocent spouse but the Code Commission was antiquated then and did not retain this grant. The link

      “7. Killing of spouse in act of adultery.
      Article 247, which is similar to Art. 425 of the old Pe
      Code as amended by Act 3195, states that: “Any legally
      ried person who, having surprised his spouse in the act of co
      mitting sexual intercourse with another person, shall kill eit
      of them in the act or immediately thereafter, or shall inf!o
      upon them any serious physical injury, shall suffer the pena
      of destierro” (banishment for 6 mos. and 1day to 6 years).
      provision of the old Code, on which Article 247 was based,
      unanimously criticized in Spain particularly during the last f
      years as being a cruel provision, indirectly authorizing the 0.
      fended spouse to take away the life of the adulterers. Aceo
      ingly, the new Spanish Penal Code, in article 5.23, merely co
      siders the act as having been executed under passion and
      fuscation as a special extenuating circumstance such that
      offended spouse will have to suffer the penalty for the offen
      committed, but lower by one degree. In the Philippines, wh
      adultery is a ground for divorce, there is added reason for sU
      pressing the antiquated and cruel provision preserved in arti
      247 above quoted. The Code Committee, which was too mode
      in punishing the impossible crime, was, perhaps, quite an
      J;uated in preserving the provision of Article 423 of the
      1n~nal Code.”

      Kaya si ass sec Sy, bata pa subalit antiquated ang isip katulad ng 1932 Commission that drafted our penal code. Suply ko ang link sunod…

    • 27.2
      Rolly says:

      Before becoming into a Law, a Bill is introduced to the Lower House, debated and passed after the “third reading”. The identical proposed law meantime (Senate version), is being presented, debated, and approved after the third reading.

      That House version and the Senate Bill version are smoothened and given the final touches, coordinated, reconciled and consolidated to come up with one proposed Republic Act.

      The President then (whether the likes of Miriam, Joker, Enrile, Rene Saguisag and other legal luminaries, or PNoy as he is, being not a lawyer), signed the Republic Act into Law and becomes effective after a prescribed period of time.

      Although some would put the blame to the President’s advisers, I shall attribute this particular Cybercrime Law debacle to PNoy’s lapse of judgement.

      Please visit the below link to have a better perspective to lawmaking.

      gov.ph/about/gov/the-legislative-branch/

      Please copy and paste to the address bar of your Browser.

      • 27.2.1
        Rolly says:

        To Pnoy’s credit, he doesn’t blame his staff (at least in public), he crucifies himself instead.

  17. 26
    Leun B. McQueen says:

    That CyberCrime Law was enacted in haste. It must be shot down! and maybe along with Asec Sy, hehehe

  18. 25
    leona says:

    DOJ ass sec Sy, quote, said – “So with all due respect, let’s be careful in blogging because when lay person reads it, it creates another chilling effect or whatever it’s called.”

    Bakit hindi niya, sa unahan, sinabi or sabihin ” That is precisely the point, ahead of blogging, why the senators and congressmen, rammed …PINILIT AT e-SAKSAK sa lalamunan ng mga TAO BAYAN, the cybercrime bill, para magawang Batas!”

    Kaya tayo nag karoon ng mysteryosong blogging dahil dito! Walang ma sisi-si si ass sec Sy sa atin. Siya, isa sa mga ‘mentor’ ng bill. Hindi niya rin pinag-aralan ng ma-igi. Propesor pa naman! Ganoon ba siya, parehas sa mga mam-babatas? Reckless? Hurried? Anong motibo niya ma-apura ang bill na mapasa?

    • 25.1
      macspeed says:

      same as doing design without checking for quality assurance, pag nagiba, sino sisisihin?

      Delete lahat ng palpak na section sa Cyber crime laws…make it simple such as warnings,

      suspension, and lectures…

  19. 24
  20. 23
    Anubayan! says:

    “I would be amenable to the crime of adultery being crammed into the Cybercrime Law as long as lawmakers make married men equally liable for it and – in addition – make concubinage a crime punishable one degree higher than adultery. But I probably wouldn’t trust DOJ Assec Geronimo Sy to draft the proposed legislation.”

    Our law professor told us back then that the reason why adultery has a higher penalty than concubinage is because there is a danger that an unfaithful wife will bring into the family a child who is not an offspring of her husband. This will not be the case on the part of the husband even if he had extra-marital relations with several women. “What kind of a man would want to raise a child knowing he has a different father?”, my professor asked. I know It smacks of unfairness on the part of the women but maybe the lawmakers who wrote the revised penal code are all men.

    • 23.1
      leona says:

      Hindi tutuo ang sabi na ang ‘adultery’ kaya mataas ang penalty kaysa ‘concubinage’ sa explakasyon quoted ni @Anubayan.

      Di ba halat at masagwa, pag ang lalaki asawa ay namatay, sa burol nya dadating ang MGA DAMING “ASAWA – kabit, kasama ang DAMING MGA ANAK! Na gulat ang tunay na asawa!

      Sa ‘adultery’ ka dalasan, minos ang sama. Sa CONCUBINAGE, sobra ang sama. Pag nag kapareho ang sama ng ‘adultery’ sa concubinage, GRABI ANG CONCUBINAGE kaysa ‘adultery.!’

      Kaya, dapat pareho ang parusa ng dalawang krimen. Walang un-sihan sa mga kaBABAE-han. Tama rin, ang CONCUBINAGE dapat 1 degree higher ng adultery ang parusa.

      • 23.1.1
        pinay710 says:

        adultery at concubinage PAREHONG MASAMA KAYA DAPAT PAREHO ANG KAPARUSAHAN. parehong gumawa ng masama sa asawa. saka bakit babae lang dapat kasama din ang lalake. ganun din ang suma totasl panloloko sa bawat isa pareho ang epekto sa mga anak at sa pagsasama. HINDI PUEDE ANG BABAE LANG.

        • 23.1.1.1
          macspeed says:

          at this age i have only one partner my wife, do i know if she have an affair while i am away???

          The answer is, that can be forgiven, as long as she asked for forgiveness, no need for adultery case if she want a new chance that can be arranged, that is how the human should do, everyone made mistakes he he he

          hence cybercrime law is not applicable, kakatawa at kakainis kung maging Law pa yan, sayang pera at panahon…

    • 23.2
      Baltazar says:

      This topic has really prompted me to have a discussion with my two Singaporean Muslim colleagues – a male and a female – regarding what Sharia law says about adultery/concubinage.. Is Sharia Law being applied in the Filipino Muslim community? (Zamera & macspeed could probably answer this.) If it is, how does it align with the Philippine civil law that only allows one marriage? I am throwing up this question in the air because the Sharia -acceptable marriage of up to four times for a man is basically concubinage in our civil law.

      • 23.2.1
        raissa says:

        True.

      • 23.2.2
        macspeed says:

        @Baltazar: Yes Sharia Law is applied in Phiippines to Muslim only.

        Marrying up to 4 is only an Option in Al Qur-an.

        Chapter (SURA) 4. AN-NISA (WOMEN)

        1. O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single
        soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a
        multitude of men and women. Be careful of your duty toward Allah in Whom ye
        claim [your rights] of one another, and toward the wombs [that bare you]. Lo!
        Allah hath been a watcher over you.
        2. Give unto orphans their wealth. Exchange not the good for the bad [in your
        management thereof] nor absorb their wealth into your own wealth. Lo! that would
        be a great sin.
        3. And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the
        women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot
        do justice [to so many] then one [only] or [the captives] that your right hands
        possess. Thus it is more likely that ye will not do injustice.
        4. And give unto the women [whom ye marry] free gift of their marriage portions;
        but if they of their own accord remit unto you a part thereof, then ye are
        welcome to absorb it [in your wealth].

        For Adultery, it is not punishable by Death:

        SURA 24. AN-NOOR (THE LIGHT)
        1. [Here is] a surah which We have revealed and enjoined, and wherein We have
        revealed plain tokens, that haply ye may take heed.
        2. The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them [with] a
        hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to
        Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers
        witness their punishment.

        That is the Basic teaching of Islam.

        For me, when a woman ask for 2nd chance, it should be given, love is lovlier the secnd time around he he he

        • 23.2.2.1
          Baltazar says:

          @macspeed
          Let’s not get off-track. How about the legality? In Singapore, when it comes to a crime, a Muslim has the right to choose to be under/prosecuted Sharia law and they have a constitutional provision for that. But according to my colleagues, most Muslim would not choose to be prosecuted under Sharia law because the penalties are so severe (ie . you steal, they’ll cut your hand). But when it comes to marriage, they have a separate government registry for Muslim marriages where multiple marriage registration is allowed. Do we have the same facility in the Philippines? Or is there a constitutional provision for the same? Otherwise, it boils down to my argument ..that it is a concubinage.

          • 23.2.2.1.1
            macspeed says:

            @baltazar one of the 3kings he he he

            if the christian country is permitting sharia law, the muslim may select a lighter law which is not sharia law he he he

            but if one did like ampatuans, the main goventment which is not sharia law cannot agree to the shifting from government law to sharia law he he he

            murderers cannot scape whereso ever law he he he

          • 23.2.2.1.2
            leona says:

            Sharia Law Philippines is not the same Sharia Law Singapore or other such Laws of countries. No cutting of hands for stealing, or cutting of heads or stoning, etc. No.

            Btw, @macspeed…pag may 5th marriage, is that governed by Sharia law? Or Sharingmore Law? Adultery pag 5th marriage in the Philippines?

  21. 22
    fed_up says:

    Hi CPMers, let’s have a joke to chase away the heat of irritation generated by a passing “asteroid”.

    Subject: Who’s In Charge Here?

    All the organs of the body were having a meeting, trying to decide who should be the one in charge.

    “I should be in charge,” said the brain, “Because I run all the body’s systems, so without me nothing would happen.”

    “I should be in charge,” said the blood, “Because I circulate oxygen all over so without me you’d all waste away.”

    “I should be in charge,” said the stomach,” Because I process food and give all of you energy.”

    “I should be in charge,” said the legs, “because I carry the body wherever it needs to go.”

    “I should be in charge,” said the eyes, “Because I allow the body to see where it goes.”

    “I should be in charge,” said the rectum, “Because I’m responsible for waste removal.”

    All the other body parts laughed at the rectum and insulted him, so in a huff, he shut down tight.

    Within a few days, the brain had a terrible headache, the stomach was bloated, the legs got wobbly, the eyes got watery, and the blood was toxic. They all decided that the rectum should be the boss.

    The Moral of the story?

    The asshole is usually in charge.

    P.S.
    With so many posts here by the “asteroid” disallowing senior citizen CPMers like me to concentrate, I think he’s the one in charge here.

    • 22.1
      Baltazar says:

      @fed_up
      Raissa, being the owner of the site is in charge and here’s the site’s comment policy. What makes a cake truly delectable is not just the base cake itself but also the icing. Some people who get a piece of the cake will get a slice together with the icing but have to throw the latter later. CPM atmosphere is just like that. Sometimes, you have to filter the comments on your own. That will also reduce the load on Raissa. CPM – being modeled after the Plaza Miranda in the heyday of Marcos power must also uphold democracy ; that is people speak, some listen . Hence it welcomes passers-b y who will virtually fecalize or urinate on one corner of the plaza – Pinoy eh! Sabi nga ni Joe-Am, well dressed pa rin naman ang iba.
      Pagbati po mula sa Singapore.

    • 22.2
      Parekoy says:

      As I said previously in other threads, a gross variant of this is:

      Treat every idea here like food, absorb all the nutrients, expel the waste, and you get a relief.

      I believe in free speech and I would fight for the right or priviledge of anyone here to make a fool of himself/herself/gayself!

    • 22.3
      leona says:

      Kasayahan ang atin patitipon dito. Salo-salo ang bigayan sa sulat natin. Mabasa natin para mag-saya sa kwentuhan. Wag sana dumami ang “I think he’s the one in charge here.” Pag dumani, mawawala ang kasayahan. Oo nga may ‘pridom’ sumulat kung ano mang ang gusto nya. Kung ang sinulat ay nakaka sira sa saya sa isa, dalawa ‘o tatlo dito, yan ay senyas may dating na puputol ng atin kasayahan. Pag nag tatlo ‘o apat o’ sampu na ang “in charge” ano ang kasayahan dito? ‘Di na ‘pridom’ yan! Ibang gawa-in ang dating…sila lang ang sasaya, hindi na lahat tayo ‘o karamihan dito! ‘Di na CPM ito kundi
      RPM…rapido puro M…Wag sana tayo sige ng basa ng RPM…’di natin ma-iwasan sa loob nitong ‘spasyo’ dito at nakaka kausa ng sayang ang horas skrolling baba at taas! Walang hugas! Ang pridom may limitasyon sa lahat ng gawa. Walang lang sobra…ito lamang ang paki-usap.

    • 22.4
      macspeed says:

      to CPM…

      Pardon us for some transgreesion, especially if we insulted people he he he such words of my co cultured shocked MRP: here is why:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_shock

      Culture shock

      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Jump to: navigation, search

      For uses of Culture Shock as a proper noun, see Culture shock (disambiguation).

      Culture shock is the personal disorientation a person may feel when experiencing an unfamiliar way of life due to immigration or a visit to a new country, or to a move between social environments, also a simple travel to another type of life.[1]

      Enthusiastic welcome offered to the first Indian student to arrive in Dresden, East Germany (1951)
      One of the most common causes of culture shock involves individuals in a foreign environment. Culture shock can be described as consisting of at least one of four distinct phases: Honeymoon, Negotiation, Adjustment, and Mastery, are the most common attributes that pertain to existing problems, further hindrances include: information overload, language barrier, generation gap, technology gap, skill interdependence, formulation dependency, homesickness (cultural), infinite regress (homesickness), boredom (job dependency), response ability (cultural skill set). [2] There is no true way to entirely prevent culture shock, as individuals in any society are personally affected by cultural contrasts differently.[3]

      he he he he

      • 22.4.1
        Baltazar says:

        @macspeed
        I always love analogy. In the olden days (even up to now, I believe) , softdrinks promos would ask you to check the bottle crowns (tansan) for prizes by removing the inner seal and presto, a prize printed at the inner side of the crown will be revealed. In those days, I had redeemed so many softdrinks (Contents Only is also printed).. Now I have highlighted the word redeemed – which means new (sort of)..so I really hope CPM has new macspeed now(?)

  22. 21
    joedelacruise says:

    Dear everyone….and Madame Raissa. Good day to one and all.
    Although I am a habitual reader of this blog, I don’t normally post comments. Whatever my views are on any given topic, I always defer to the wisdom of the more educated, and therefore more knowledgeable, commenters on this site.

    On this current topic, I wish to agree, if I may, with the views expressed by Assistant Secretary Geronimo Sy in response to Madame Raissa’s hypothetical question,

    “To use my previous example of the case of the woman accused of adultery, because of Section 6, if a married woman’s e-mail to her lover were submitted as evidence, her penalty if convicted automatically becomes one degree higher”.

    Adultery is the physical act or crime the woman is being accused of; while e-mail is the evidence or the cyber component being submitted as proof of the act. Her conviction, and penalty, will be on the physical act of adultery which she is accused of. The evidence, e-mail, if presented, might or might not be taken into consideration by the court, but it will not make the physical crime a cyber crime. One can be accused/convicted/penalized OF a crime (adultery, in this example) but can not be accused OF evidence (email).

    Cyber adultery is not specifically mentioned in the Cybercrime Law nor in the submitted petitions lodged with the Supreme Court… but I’ll check again. As I said, I will always submit and bow to the more educated/knowledgeable commenters.

    Thank you all.

    • 21.1
      raissa says:

      Adultery is in Section 6 of the Cybercrime Prevention Act.

      Thanks for commenting.

    • 21.2
      Rene-Ipil says:

      Joedlc@21

      First thing first. What is the crime charged in the information filed with the court? If it was cyber adultery, the information must allege that adultery was committed with the use of computer as an element of the crime. Otherwise the case of cyber adultery would be dismissed or amended because the facts charged do not constitute the offense of cyber adultery.

      If the crime charged was (simple) adultery, there would be no need to allege the use of computer because it is not an element of the crime of (simple) adultery. Introduction of email as evidence in (simple) adultery case would only be considered an aggravating circumstance. The email may not be proved at all for conviction in (simple) adultery. On the other hand, the email must be proved in the case of cyber adultery to secure conviction.

    • 21.3
      leona says:

      @joedelacruise…ang adultery sa ‘e-mail’ ‘o cyberspace ay hindi ‘evidence.’ Yan ay isang krimen sa ilalim ng Cybercrime law, kaya tataas ang imprisonment. Si ass sec Sy baliktad ang basa ‘o pag ka-intindi ng sariling ‘draft’ ng naging Batas!

      Ulit…hindi ‘evidence’ lang kundi KRIMEN with increases of the penalty! Walang sinabi itong Batas na ang ‘evidence’ ay makaka pag-taas ng ‘penalty’ kundi ang sinabi ay ‘pag ang krimen – halimbawa – adultery, ay pina-raan sa cyberspace ‘o ‘e-mail,’ TAAS ANG PENALTY dito!

      Ka lito si ass sec Sy dito. Bakit? Hindi nya pina-aralan ng mabuti ang implikasyon ng draft nya! Apurado siya! Walang ma-igi ng aral at konlsulta sa mamayan ang Batas nito.

      Sobra si PNoy, pinimahan pa walang aral ang ‘Legal Staff’ nya rin! Kaya PUTOK na KAMATIS itong Batas nito.

      • 21.3.1
        macspeed says:

        terminate this guy from the Government services, or perhaps terminate this Gay he he he, bakit galit sya sa mga adulteress???

      • 21.3.2
        moonie says:

        I’m laughing so hard, I nearly fell of my chair. I think, ass sec sy needs more zinc in his diet, his brain is not functioning properly. his neurons and synaptic relays are not firing as well as they ought to. the prez probably did not fully understand what he was signing, he has no legal training. his legal staff? nilaglag yata nila and presidente.

  23. 20
    moonie says:

    hi, joe america at 17. loved your comment. young men though are nearly as obstinate as old men. they’re impatient too ,and behaved like the world owe them a living. they raged often and many are undisciplined, spoiled brats and loudmouths with barely respect for authority. seen the way they dressed? they have their own language too, not understandable to many.

    • 20.1
      Joe America says:

      Yes, I should eliminate the age distinction and simply mention those who are too rigid, impatient or full of themselves to learn. Thanks.

    • 20.2
      leona says:

      @moonie…pag ang RPM kasama sa CPM, ang matigas, walang pasenya at puno ng kagustuhan mag aral, sino kaya…’RPM’ ‘o CPM?

      • 20.2.1
        macspeed says:

        @leona, please understand RPM he he he Cultured shock like me he he he siguro sa akin mga limang bulate na lang pipirma wasak na sanity ko.

        Kay MRP, he is being healed here, pero madami yata nahahawa sa kanya he he he in turn culture shock waves he he he i just notice on some comments

      • 20.2.2
        moonie says:

        hi, leona. diversity, babe, is giving me headache. rpms can grow, they can become assets – with time. I started an rpm, brash and unpolished, more like hilong talilong, but then, I got influenced by the likes of you, johnny lin, joe america, baycas and the rest. raisa writes fine articles, she’s not like some ‘helicopter’ bloggers that only hover and couldn’t quite land, write from a distance, and didn’t get to know their subject well.

        I cannot help but be moved by the passion and tenacity shown by you people. we may disagree, but I think, we are family now. for better or for worse.

        • 20.2.2.1
          Joe America says:

          “Helicopter” blogger. I love that term. I consider myself to be a “drone” blogger., though. I hover in the distance and shoot missiles at deserving targets.

  24. 19
    moonie says:

    adultery between consenting adults, that’s their business. problem is adultery has many collateral damages. it destroys trust, family relationship, ruined lives too. why can’t adults finish one relation before starting another?

    my friends says it’s because we filipinos have high libidos, we over-medicate ourselves with zinc daw gotten from fish that we eat almost everyday. also from oysters (talaba?) pusit, sugpo, pugita, seafoods kasi is part of our basic diet. and seafood is high in zinc, which is responsible for normal brain functioning and also for sperm production. zinc helps make our men virile, women fertile, one sexual encounter at buntis kaagad. even our teenagers barely into puberty suddenly find themselves new parents. they did not see it coming. ops, I’m waffling.

    cyber adultery will soon be reason to file for divorce, maybe annulment too. it might even be mentioned in prenups as mitigating factor to end a marriage.

    • 19.1
      leona says:

      Wag natin sisihin ang mga Babae sa adultery kasama mga Lalaki, ‘o Lalaki sa concubinage. Tao lamang sila at tayo. Sisihin and mga lawmerriers natin ang hindi PANTAY NA BATAS, sa Revised Penal Code at Cybercrime law.

      Walang APURAHAN NA BATAS! Parang sila gusto lahat pumunta sa kasilyas umihin ‘o t…e.

  25. 18
    pinay710 says:

    hindi na nga ako makapag concentrate sa pagbasa sa mga komento na may maiiwan sa akin ng kaalam dahil sa susunod na komento puro panghihiya, pagmamarunong at pagsesermon sa mga Pilipino ang nababasa ko. gusto ko pa naman sanang matuto ng mga bagay na hindi ko natutunan noong nagaaral ako at dito lang sa blog ni raissa ako natutuo kaso nakakaiinis ang mga komento ng isang SIRA ang ulo dito. puro sya na lang ang magaling, panay paninira sa kapwa ang sinasabi. sanay tumigil na sya. hindi ko naman malampasan kasi nasa pagitan ng mga komentong pangkaisipna tapos bigla kokomento naman ng puro pagaalipusta sa kapwa. NAKAKAINIS!

    • 18.1
      pelang says:

      that’s true @pinay710. it was more fun at raissa’s blog before MR came along.

      • 18.1.1
        erwin says:

        @ pelang,

        It’s really true that it was more fun at raissa’s blog before though there were some trolls at least they have superior conscience and education for not doing or writing silly comments…… di ba?

    • 18.2
      baycas says:

      Please trust me, @pinay710, this blog is more fun now than ever before…

      Simply because it is funnier with comic character/s around.

      Please do stick around, you are needed here.

  26. 17
    Joe America says:

    I suppose this dilemma on cyber-adultery shows what is wrong with the Cybercrime Law from the getgo. It tries to take a completely new form of expression, social media being the form, and fit it into laws designed for person to person communication. Social dialogue is a completely new animal, founded on the essential notion of free and open communication, no matter the content within the form.

    You have old men who try to control interpersonal communications now trying to control a completely unrestrained medium. Old laws don’t work. And old men who appear long past the age of intellectual flexibility make the laws. They no longer fit, either.

    • 17.1
      Parekoy says:

      Hear, hear!

    • 17.2
      Enting says:

      You get it right.

    • 17.3
      raissa says:

      You are right on the money, Joe.

      Digital guru Nicholas Negroponte calls them “the digital homeless”, Alan told me.

      However, in the case of DOJ Assec Geronimo Sy, he is not old but young.

      I think the trouble is that he has blinders – like those of a carriage horse – that only allows him to have a narrow perspective of the issue. He only sees the Cybercrime Law from the national security issue.

      As Alan pointed out in his article written recently, Assec Sy hewed close to the Budapest Convention when it came to the security aspect but dropped the Convention’s recommendations on the human rights and free expression aspect altogether.

      He wrote:

      “The bill was supposed to follow an international agreement on specific cybercrimes, the Budapest Convention (by the way, the Philippines is not a signatory). But, in a fit of creative legal engineering, it looks as if Sy and congressmen went above and beyond what the agreement calls for. To cite an example: the Budapest Convention has a section on safeguards to protect human rights and liberties —the Philippine Cybercrime Law drops that totally. And, where the Convention lists the very specific crime of “child pornography,” RA 10175’s framers invented and added a new vague category, “cybersex”— the “willful engagement, maintenance, control, or operation, directly or indirectly, of any lascivious exhibition of sexual organs or sexual activity, with the aid of a computer system, for favor or consideration.” Looking nervously at the porn stash in your smartphone?”

      • 17.3.1
        Joe America says:

        Interesting. This guy seems a tad overly political and untrustworthy to me, but then I guess attorneys get paid not to think right or wrong, but different advocacies. It’s not cool, however, that a person who hold’s the courts’ trust in his hands, or mouth, is so fluid with things. Like the truth, or the law.

      • 17.3.2
        Parekoy says:

        “favor or consideration”

        I guess it is about cyberprostitution, where one pays to have an online live cybersex. My take: As long as they are not children, then it is just an act of commerce. It has its advantage too, venerial disease is completely absent.

        Now, what if the cybersex is done by consenting adults without any favor or consideration, would it still be considered as cybercrime?

        Grabe na kasi ang mga Palusot sa atin, nagkaron pa kasi ng rider provision sa libel, yun nabuko tuloy sila at hinihimay pa ng tao ang ibang pwedeng maging pinsala ng mga bright-bright na mambabatas at pa Genius na si Sy. Nagmumura ata ang mga Hukom sa korte suprema, sila pa ngayon ang binigyan ng sakit ng ulo at pwedeng malipat ang yamot ng taong bayan sa kanila kaysa don sa mga PU na gumawa at nagpalusot ng bulok na probisyon at igapos ang karapatang pantao sa malayang pamamahayag.

        Sabi nga ni Baycas, abangan…

        • 17.3.2.1
          leona says:

          Sobra tumataas lang ang ego ni ass sec Sy…kaya pati siya nawala sa draft ng Batas nya! Kalimutan nya tatastas ng ‘freedom of speech’ at ‘freedom of the Press’ tiong Batas. Kayong, depress the Press! Depress the speech!

          • 17.3.2.1.1
            moonie says:

            taas ang ego, o sobrang in a hurry, gigil and gigil thinking about enrile’s cash christmas gift in the offing?

      • 17.3.3
        macspeed says:

        ass sec sy is vicious hence meron syang blinders or blinkers he he he running like novato maiden races he he he he

        The penalty of such horses is suspension indifinetely he he he subject for barrier trial with approval of commissioner he he he

  27. 16
    leona says:

    leona says:
    January 15, 2013 at 10:13 am

    We’re getting nowwhere in many exchanges! Raissa worked so hard for every piece of article she puts here and we cannot abandon not to reciprocate for her tireless efforts by making comments unrelated to the important points or issues raised up.

    Let’s be that considerate. Once in a while ok but not 99.9999% unknowable comments. Do we want readers to find out such a kind of bloggings? Poor taste karamihan ang labas natin lahat dito.

    Can we do it or not? This is CPM place. I love this place but but but I am not sure for long.

    • 16.1
      Tomas Gomez III says:

      Sang – ayon po ako sa inyong daing, Leona. There is an increasing degree of impertinence that is interfering with the service and joy that we derive from being sober participants of CPM. Puwede kayang mag-tatag ng isang subsidiary blog site para doon i-redirect ang basura?

      • 16.1.1
        Parekoy says:

        @Tommy

        Majority has similar sentiments too. But a blogsite, which champions the free flow of ideas however repulsive, should stick to its cause.

        We can apply the time tested quote(attributed to so many great leaders):

        “A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members.”

        We need to show maximum tolerance even to nutcases!

        Please refer to my #8 comment.

    • 16.2
      Joe America says:

      I’m reminded of someone whose taste in clothing is simply godawful and so they wear the wrong garb to a party, coming across as awkward at best and clownish at worst. If there are too many of those kinds of people, the affair becomes a circus. So I know what you mean. Still, the rest can carry on a good conversation. There are a lot of properly attired people here.

      • 16.2.1
        Alan says:

        Good point, although the signal to noise ratio might have to be adjusted so there’s less static

        • 16.2.1.1
          Baltazar says:

          @Alan,
          Your iPhone’s S/N ratio in the picture above seems to be a bit low…hence some noise patches in the image :-)

          • 16.2.1.1.1
            Alan says:

            Yes Baltazar, those two noise patches are singularly unfortunate in their location

            • Joe America says:

              The term “singularly” or “singular” gained popularity because they were used relentlessly by Sherlock Holmes. Hence they are commonly used today by those of mighty deductive prowess.

              • Alan says:

                that’s interesting, I was unaware of that JoeAm, I’ve been using the word “singular” for years. Can’t say, though, that I have much prowess in anything except meeting editorial deadlines (usually).
                And I’ve always thought of the word “singularity” in its cosmological sense (the center of a black hole, a point of infinite density) ever since I read it eons ago in Paul Davies’ fascinating science book, Stardoom

              • Parekoy says:

                I thought it meant not married yet, like PNoy.

                Thanks joe!

              • Joe America says:

                That’s alright. I was just making it up anyhow. It is a fine word. Duplicitous is another one. And lollapalooza.

              • Alan says:

                HAHA. Whatever happened to prestidigitation?

              • Parekoy says:

                I just invented one:

                Syetnator

              • Joe America says:

                Prestidigitation went out of usage along with legerdemain when marketing people used polls to determine that “magic” had greater popular appeal. They also outlawed floccinaucinihilipilification for reasons that are probably fairly obvious.

              • Alan says:

                I wonder if that can be used in a column? might be libelous though,

    • 16.3
      macspeed says:

      This is CPM, anything goes beyond the topic he he he as long as wala lang magmumura o mananakit ng damdamin, hayyy , the original Plaza Miranda, may sintu sintu pa nga raw he he he

      cyber crime laws should only be regulations, warnings, pangaral, isa hanggang tatlo, pag ayaw, suspension he he he but not totally ban, kawawa naman he he he

  28. 15
    Rene-Ipil says:

    Let us identify adultery in the Revised Penal Code (RPC) as simple adultery and adultery in the cybercrime law as cyber adultery.

    The elements of simple adultery:
    1. The woman is married
    2. She has sexual intercourse with a man not her husband
    3. The man must know her to be married

    The cybercrime law added another element, that is, a computer is used to commit the crime. Meaning that the use of computer is not merely an aggravating circumstance which “aggravates” the penalty, for example, from the minimum period (6 months imprisonment) to medium (4 years imprisonment) period of prision correctional, only one period higher. Not a degree higher – meaning, for example, from prision correctional (maximum of 6 years imprisonment) to prision mayor (maximum of 12 years imprisonment).

    The cybercrime law provides another complexion to the crime of simple adultery. The use of computer becomes an element – not merely an aggravating circumstance. So that the crime penalized in the RPC by prision correctional ( 6 years ) is now punishable by prision mayor ( 12 years ) under the cybercrime law- one degree higher.

    In other words, cyber adultery can be committed ONLY with the use of computer. No computer, no cyber adultery but merely simple adultery.

    ASEC Sy commits intellectual dishonesty in saying that he could not imagine any situation where adultery could be committed through a computer. He knew pretty well that simple adultery in the RPC metamorphosed into cyber adultery when computer is used to consummate the former.

    • 15.1
      Parekoy says:

      Another hypothetical:

      What if the adulterer used their 4G cellphones, one for video recording and the other used as a sex toy inserted into the genital during coitus, will the Cybercrime Law be applied to this scenario and aggravate the punishment?

      • 15.1.1
        Rene-Ipil says:

        Parekoy @ 15.1

        Of course the desktop computer or maybe an iPad or mini iPad, by any stretch of imagination, cannot be used in the physical act of sexual intercourse. Maybe that was what ASEC Sy was referring to when he said that adultery cannot be committed though a computer. But the difference between me and ASEC Sy is that maybe his idea of computer use in sexual intercourse is by physical insertion of the hardware while mine is the use of the computer software in a conspiracy to develop a plan, mobilize resources and finally engage in consensual sexual intercourse between a married woman and a man.

        In fact the conspiracy to commit murder could be initiated by the use of computer for planning purposes and consummated by direct participation of the planners in the killing itself. So I steadfastly maintain that cyber adultery can be committed with the use of computer via email, google maps with street view, facebook, twitter, google earth, online payment to hotels and resorts (short time included), FedEx (which uses computers to deliver hard copy of letters, maps and oplans), etc., etc.

    • 15.2
      leona says:

      Punta tayo sa “Libel” sa Batas dito. Medyo nawawala itong importanteng topic. Bihira ang adultery dito. Mas marami ang magiging subject matter of the effects on libelous writings, baka, baka lang mapasama ang iba dito na manunulat sa Libel – cause and effects.

      Depress free speech! Depress the Press! Constitutional rights. Adultery hindi. Sino ang gusto hindi na makaka sulat ng marami sa cyberspace? Sino ang ma-agrabyado hindi na maka gawa ng maraming adultery? Sino at ilang ang disgustado hindi na makaka imprinta sa Press?

  29. 14
    moonie says:

    e-mail aside, I hope we are not forgetting the webcam in adulterous rendezvous where parties undress and view each other’s tomographies and private assets. I have read somewhere about commiting adultery (motives) in their libidous hearts. more like using the computer to organize activities that lead to adultery. and then, maintaining such activities through the help of a computer.

    • 14.1
      Parekoy says:

      That is correct.

      Technology provide alternative means as gateway to adultery. In fact the advances in internet technology are driven by the needs of the pornography industry, which is more than $50 billion dollars in revenue. Then internet gaming followed suit to provide fast real time actions among the gamers.

      Bloggers needs, I suspect are at the bottom though :-(

    • 14.2
      macspeed says:

      Applicable only for Husband and Wife he he he such as Sex using Skype he he he

      bakit puro adultery, lipat naman tayo Libel he he he

  30. 13
    baycas says:

    Bottom line in all these is that…

    Will “cyber adultery” be specifically mentioned in Court this afternoon?

    • 13.1
      Parekoy says:

      Sereno said that it depends on God’s will. She is staring at her monitor for the virtual answer from the Chistian God.

      Maybe the Scientologists’ God is more credible about cybermatters. Let’s contact Tom Cruise, he can share us his wisdom about Cyber Adultery, he might have some first hand knowledge about it.

    • 13.2
      raissa says:

      Maybe cybersex?

  31. 12
    Johnny Lin says:

    Asec Guillermo Sy
    An open letter to you

    You have alluded that you read Raissa blog, thus I have a confession to make.
    Ever since I was a teenager, I have been told by sexy girls that when I stared
    at them as they pass by they felt naked but the worst comment I heard was that my luscious stare seemed to impregnate her. That was reality but my action was never considered a crime.

    Now that I’m married and you wanted cyber adultery be included in cybercrime law, does it mean that my visual lust is now illegal?

    Since my stare could impregnate, will you also charge me for child support?
    I’m worried financially because I’m unemployed!

    Please answer my question

    Yours truly

    He he he

    • 12.1
      Johnny Lin says:

      Atty Guillermo Sy

      PS

      I think the Asian looking child of Angelina Jolie is my son since I have been staring at her even before she lived with Brad.

      Please advise me legally if I have to confess also to Angelina

      Thanks

      He he he

    • 12.2
      macspeed says:

      He he he he another Cultured Shocked like MRP but sensual and sexy he he

      grabee ka naman tol, tinitingnan mo lang buntis na he he he

      magagalit na si Leona, Libel naman daw he he he

  32. 11
    jcc says:

    “In other words, a married man who has multiple affairs with women who are single or whom he thought were single cannot be accused of adultery.”

    hehehe… i hope your dad is alive today raissa so he can explain to you the policy consideration behind the adultery provision tilted a little bit in favor of the husband… a married woman conceiving because of an illicit relationship with a man other than the husband creates the possiblity of a husband supporting a child not from his loin. this situation would not happen if the woman is single.

    • 11.1
      raissa says:

      I am aware of this consideration, which many men have abused for their selfish ends :-(

      • 11.1.1
        Rene-Ipil says:

        Jcc & Raissa @ 11/11.1

        Not only the maintenance and support of a child not his own. It would be totally unfair and completely devastating when the husband died and the said child becomes his sole heir to the detriment of his own blood and legal heirs, i.e., parents or siblings.

        • 11.1.1.1
          Parekoy says:

          @Rene,

          Still archaic, if that is the main consideration. DNA test is now available and if the father has some doubts, then perform one rather than imposing unjust punishment to the mother.

          The absence of divorce actually burdens so many couples, specially the middle class and the poor. The cost to get annulment is prohibitive and only favors the rich. Kris Aquino was able to because she can afford to hire annulment lawyers. Koko and Chiz are on the same track.

          A number of our politicians, if given a choice, would be in favor of a divorce law. With a divorce bill, amending or repealing the adultery law is now appealling to harmonize the intent of the related laws.

          When RH became the law of the land, it loosened the grip and influence of the Catholic Church in the legislative branch. It is logical that to tackle the divorce and adultery laws. If they insist to influence, the state can likewise insist by asking them to pay taxes to be able to participate in the political process. They can’t have their cake and it it too. No representation without taxation.

          • 11.1.1.1.1
            Rene-Ipil says:

            Parekoy@ 11.1

            You are absolutely right. The basis of adultery law is archaic and anachronistic. The 1932 law on adultery aims to deter spurious heirs and protect the rights of true heirs. Now, the paternal link is easily determined via DNA testing. The adultery provision has no more underpinning. And adultery is already a ground for legal separation and, soon, divorce.

        • 11.1.1.2
          leona says:

          There is somewhat a move to amend further the New Family Code to put ‘illegitimate children” on same footing as to “rights” with legitimate children. Seems fair and right! If done…meaning amended, no ascendants or collateral relatives can come in when there are ‘all children’ surviving the deceased parent.

          The New Civil Code and New Family Code are still of ‘old school thought.’

          • 11.1.1.2.1
            Joe America says:

            Good to know. I wrote on this last week: “Is Poverty Illegitimate?” thesocietyofhonor(dot)blogspot(dot)com/2013/01/is-poverty-illegitimate.html

            A child is innocent of the conditions leading to his or her birth, and to promote a lifelong condemnation of the child is horribly insensitive.

            • leona says:

              @Joe Am…yup, I rem’ber you wrote on it. Hoooray for all children! Hope they get it soon.

    • 11.2
      Parekoy says:

      The adultery and concubinage laws should be repealed.

      This is unfair to to both parties. If either find that their marriage is not working, they should be matured enough to have a divorce. I was jumping the gun, there is no divorce law yet but only annulment.

      Sy created a myriad of problems by making the Cybercrime Law all encompassing, now they are extricating himself by justifying each.

      The Cybercrime Law is adulterated especially by inserting those libel provisions.

      If we are truly serious prosecuting adulterers, we should start with Sy and Senators who inserted these adulterated law, whose impact is sweeping because of their careless crafting of this law.

      • 11.2.1
        Parekoy says:

        I am guilty of murdering the english language by hastily posting without a review, but compared to their irresponsibility and incompetence, mine is just a quark compared to their bloated egos.

        • 11.2.1.1
          leona says:

          @Parekoy, either you are just as innocent for being hasty like the lawmakers who also hastily rammed the cybercrime bill into law, or just as guilty for same reason. Either way, innocence will be in your favor rather than guilty for ‘adulterous’ english language!

          • 11.2.1.1.1
            baycas says:

            As the blog post mentioned, “computer penetration is high“…

            “Insertion”, as introduced, err, inserted by @Yvonne last year is now passé.

            “Penetration” is the new high…

            Thus, “Cyber Adultery” definitely exists, contrary to Asec Sy’s contention, because cyber penetration may result in gratification not only virtually but, oftentimes, real.

            • Parekoy says:

              Until the engineers improve the Wii/Xbox360/PS3 remote controllers to fit it with phallus- like and anatomically correct female genital toys together with all the real time feedbacks, then we can say that man harnessed his creativity to the fullest and reached unprecedented level in providing real satisfying cybersex! That’s the time those self-righteous moralists can make their case about sex related offenses.

              • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

                Ewwww !!! Gross !!!! NEVER DO SEX.

                Sex is clinically unsanitary, absolutely not hygeinic. People who indulge casual recreatiional sex 7 times a week have obsessive compulsive behaviour close to addiction.

                Sex is procreation. God did not intend it to be recreation.

              • Alan says:

                besides there is always the ever present danger that sex might result nine months later in Ignacio

              • Parekoy says:

                @Pacifico

                i suggest that you flip your preference in procreation and recreation, so you can do favor to mankind.

                It is like pleading, “We have enough of Johnny Enrile, please do not create more Jackies!”

              • Baltazar says:

                @Parekoy,
                ….Until the engineers improve the Wii/Xbox360/PS3 remote controllers to fit it with phallus- like and anatomically correct female genital toys together with all the real time feedback…
                Funny it is, but this idea could become the next big thing in the hybrid world of cyber-sex-gaming. I am a part-time developer and my mind is now playing on the idea of how an Android app can turn a cellphone into a dildo with just a single or few attachment/s — GROSE!

            • raissa says:

              Ahhh, Baycas.

              I see you noticed THAT phrase.

            • macspeed says:

              what do you mean by Penetration??? he he he that is haram (bad) he he he slowly but surely, MRP is spreading his Cultured shock Viruses he he he

              • baycas says:

                @macspeed,

                If you will refer back to earlier @raissa’s blog posts “insertion” was the double entendre word then.

                I believe the word “penetration” is now the in thing…inasmuch as it was written in the blog post as I noted in my previous comment on it.

                Kindly read my Comment No. 29 to further understand.

                Thank you.

              • baycas says:

                Incidentally, I resent the notion that I got afflicted of anything…

                The only virus worth spreading (and, worth getting!) here is the “get involved” virus. We are thankful that @raissa gave us the platform.

          • 11.2.1.1.2
            Parekoy says:

            Punishment should be commensurate to the crime committed. I might be punished by reading, understanding, and memorizing the book, The Elements of Style and buying and use spell check before sending. :-)

        • 11.2.1.2
          Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

          @Parekoy, I googled Penal Code of the Philippines they do not have punishment for MURDERING ENGLISH as long as you are understood you will only be subjected to Reclusion Perpetua MEANING you are not allowed to post until you have resurrected english.

          • 11.2.1.2.1
            Parekoy says:

            I respect people who uses their wits.

            See, it shows that you are not unredeemable after all. That is a good start!

            Keep taking your medication regularly and even with your condition you can still act normally in the cyberworld :-)

        • 11.2.1.3
          Parekoy says:

          @leona,

          You characterized how our lawmakers perform in bed by describing their preferred action: Rammed!

          Seems Raissa is right, they were acting like male chauvinist pigs after all. Few women might enjoy that, but majority would prefer the slow, tender, and thourough process, which leads to ultimate satisfying and gratifying (out)come.

          • 11.2.1.3.1
            leona says:

            @Parekoy…kaya marami na rin ang “uncomfortable women” sa Cybercrime law! ‘Kala ko Japanese soldados lang ang marunong ng ‘ramming!’

  33. 10
    baycas says:

    Cybercrime Law Oral Arguments Set on January 15; Justice Abad Confers with Counsels for Orderly Oral Arguments
    Posted: January 4, 2012; By Gleo Sp. Guerra

    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/pio/news/2013/01/01041301.php

    CYBERCRIME PETITIONS SC BULLETIN No. 2
    Posted: January 9, 2012

    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/pio/news/2013/01/01091302.php

    CYBERCRIME PETITIONS SC BULLETIN No. 3
    Posted: January 9, 2012

    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/pio/news/2013/01/cybercrime_advisory.pdf

  34. 9
    viewko says:

    gudibning, ms. raissa, everyone:
    again, well researched po, and solidly argued. which made me think that, with the proliferation of very sophisticated editing programs, and with the ease with which hackers are able to attack the internet, maraming magiging problema. indeed, government should take the stand that data taken from the internet should not be taken seriously, unless, perhaps, corroborated by other facts not coming from the internet. kasi po, very public ang internet as it is, lahat pwedeng gumamit. kaya lahat ng trash masasagap dun.
    it then follows that all crimes shall still be processed according to existing penal code, and the cybercrime law should therefore only address hacking and other improper use of the internet…heh, heh. tsaka, yung privacy, whether ordinary handwritten letter or an sms through the internet, dapat government should protect. maraming hihinto sa paggamit ng internet pag itinuloy ung pwedeng pakialaman ng kung anong department ng gobyerno yun without need of a court order. (automatic shortcut yun. heh, heh. hindi naman pwede sabihing inaalis lang yung redtape. heh, heh.)

    • 9.1
      leona says:

      @Viewko…Raissa is much better than all the lawmerriers who didn’t bother to study and review the cybercrime bill…thus, it became a stupid law. Some of them ‘voted’ without bothering what was voted ‘YES’ for! Another additional stupid acts by lawmerriers!

  35. 8
    parekoy says:

    @Raissa,

    I really commend your blogsite for it welcomes all ideas and to name a few:

    brilliant
    average
    idiotic
    racist
    evangelic
    satirical
    sanctimonious
    comic
    apologetic
    authoritarian
    collegial
    prescriptive
    witty
    flat
    etc.

    This blogsite is also disability friendly as obviously shown by the restraint and tolerance accorded to a person with cyber epileptic seizures ;-)

    • 8.1
      raissa says:

      Thanks, Parekoy.

    • 8.2
      Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      @Parekoy, sooooo true !!!

      I Go placidly amidst the noise and haste. As far as possible without surrender I will be on good terms with all persons. I Speak truth and analysis quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.

      • 8.2.1
        parekoy says:

        @Pacifico

        Let me be polite to you and point out some of your discrepancies in your statements @8.2

        noise-that is what you usually contribute here.

        haste-very hyper as shown by your rapid nonsensical response.

        good terms with all persons-not to all the bloggers here but to your Multi-personalities.

        analysis-what you contribute here is devoid of that process.

        quietly-I believed that when you shussssh yourself.

        clearly- that you have disability, clearly with your impoverished ideas evident by reposting your rehashed and tiresome rants.

        listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant- I definitely agree that you listen to yourself!

        Before I forget, you might have not noticed but please wipe your saliva and froth. I can understand, though I can’t stand the way you smell, but I assume that you are hydrophobic. Seriously, you may want to see a doctor.

        What are the symptoms of rabies in humans?

        http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/cd/cdrab-faq.shtml#q5

        Early symptoms, which may last for several days, include irritability, headache, fever, malaise, and sometimes discomfort or tingling at the site of the bite or exposure. Within days the patient may develop slight or partial paralysis, hallucinations, agitation, hypersalivation, difficulty swallowing, hydrophobia (fear of water), anxiety, confusion, excitation, convulsions, delirium and death.

        .

      • 8.2.2
        parekoy says:

        @Pacifico

        Let me be polite to you and point out some of your discrepancies in your statements @8.2

        noise-that is what you usually contribute here.

        haste-very hyper as shown by your rapid nonsensical response.

        good terms with all persons-not to all the bloggers here but to your Multi-personalities.

        analysis-what you contribute here is devoid of that process.

        quietly-I believed that when you shussssh yourself.

        clearly- that you have disability, clearly with your impoverished ideas evident by reposting your rehashed and tiresome rants.

        listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant- I definitely agree that you listen to yourself!

        Before I forget, you might have not noticed but please wipe your saliva and froth. I can understand, though I can’t stand the way you smell, but I assume that you are hydrophobic. Seriously, you may want to see a doctor.

        What are the symptoms of rabies in humans?

        Early symptoms, which may last for several days, include irritability, headache, fever, malaise, and sometimes discomfort or tingling at the site of the bite or exposure. Within days the patient may develop slight or partial paralysis, hallucinations, agitation, hypersalivation, difficulty swallowing, hydrophobia (fear of water), anxiety, confusion, excitation, convulsions, delirium and death.

        (gathered from nyc.gov-link removed to free from the quarantined comments with links.)

    • 8.3
      fed_up says:

      @parekoy. I’m just curious and I don’t want to be like a cat. Is “a person with cyber epileptic seazures” has anything to do with somebody who has a “blazing keyboard” (“nagbabagang keyboard)? Joke lang, peace!

    • 8.4
      macspeed says:

      he he he this site is the best site i have ever surf with…

      keep it up guys he he he

    • 8.5
      erwin says:

      @ Parekoy,

      “This…….. tolerance accorded to a person with cyber epileptic seizures ;-)”

      I really do not know what happened to Dr. Phil who was very busy in accommodating all the trolls during the Corona saga. I think we need his help to finally give a medicine or two to THIS PERSON WITH CYBER EPILEPTIC SEIZURES.

      And by the way, sana my idol Johnny Lin contribute some jokes especially for this person with cyber epileptic seizures……di ba?

  36. 7
    Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

    Where do I apply for cyber-marriage?

    The Philippine government cannot even deploy a simple fillable pdf individual income tax return?

    WHO ARE THEY KIDDING ME?

    Where do I apply for cyber-separation?
    cyber-divorce?

    I cannot even pay my water and power bills on-line. How much more cyber-adultery? The Filipinos cannot even know how far Spratleys from the Philippines and how far the recently purchased “nmilitary” helicopters can fly.

    NEVER A DULL MOMENT IN THE PHILIPPINES. I’m lovin’ it. Life is Goot.
    NO WONDER PHILIPPINES IS A FUN PLACE. It is a funny place. Run by funny senators voted and elected by FUNNY PEOPLE.

    • 7.1
      Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      THE FILIPINOS EAT MORE THAN THEY CAN CHEW.

      Will there be a crime against those people de-friending me ?

      Will there be DUE PROCESS before someone bans and block me from websites ?

      Will there be CYBER-PRISON SYSTEM? CYBER-POLICE? CYBER-JAIL? CYBER-JUDGE?

      HA! HA! HA! This is truly funny, DO FILIPINOS EXIST? OR THEY ARE JUST VIRTUAL?

      Filipinos, c’mon. You making me nervous. MAYBE THE VIRTUAL FILIPINOS ARE HIT BY VIRUSES. I went to my cyber-doctor and he had me by McAfee or McCafe from McDonalds to protect me from VIRUSES.

      JESUS MARY MOTHYER OF GOD, HELP US FFROM SELF-DESTRUCTION FROM FILIPINOS.

      • 7.1.1
        Johnny Lin says:

        Mariano
        Banning you is a kind or hospitable act to you.
        You are already doing our kindness a favor, self inflicted torture on your part. Gitmo torture doesn’t rise to your level.

        Analyze this : you talk incoherently and incessantly then you answer your own postings non stop. Even Dr Phil and Dr Oz don’t have cures for you YET!

        Not in the near future
        Even when all Filipinos will become GOOT
        He he he

      • 7.1.2
        Alan says:

        Also save us from presidents like Arroyo and chief justices like Corona

    • 7.2
      Mel says:

      ang chulat mu “Where do I apply for cyber-marriage?”

      umpisahan mo sa cyber email-by-order-bride.

      baka makabingwit ka ng desperada.

      • 7.2.1
        Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

        HA! HA! HA! Mel, naman, naman …

        I love mail-order-bride. I can filter it by sex, age, height, religion, etceteras …

        Then hit SUBMIT.

        It ask you 24-hour delivery: UPS, FedEx, Philippine Post

        Here is the problem: I have to process import documents thru Philippine Embassy and pay import duties.

  37. 6
    Mel says:

    “Dear Atty Sy, if cyber adultery doesn’t exist, why is it listed?”, that is a good question to put forward to Department of Justice (DOJ) Assistant Secretary Geronimo Sy. Ibalik sa kaniya dahil siya naman ang sumulat at nagbigay sa mga Senador as their Bill drafts. Turn the table. He got it wrong, and the Senators willy-nilly and Congressmen jumped in the wagon. Turo turo sila…

    Even Military Generals can get it wrong on Adultery played on cyberspace.

    One cost him the Directorship of CIA, ENTER SHIRTLESS F.B.I. AGENT, FOLLOWED BY GENERAL ALLEN

    Email exchanges, photo images (?) and a trail of virtual exchanges on ICT infrastructure didn’t cloud the steamy and flirtatious content inspite of military grade security.

    Someone was snooping how serious and real it was. Not all the Encryption technology can cover the lusts between, another one passed on himself shirtless to bait perhaps …

    Source:

    - General Petraeus, Adultery and Patriotism

    - Officials Say F.B.I. Knew of Petraeus Affair in the Summer

    - Veteran F.B.I. Agent Helped Start Petraeus E-Mail Inquiry

    - The Petraeus scandal: What we know

    - Widening scandal focuses on ‘flirtatious’ e-mails

    Ooiii even by just looking at an opposite sex with grrrh lustful eyes, he/she commits Spiritual Adultery. MUCH DAMNING THAN CYBER ADULTERY.

    But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” – Jesus Christ from Matthew Chapter 5 Verse 28.

    • 6.1
      Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      The basis of cyber-adultery is from, quoting Mel:

      “But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already commioted adultery with her in his heart” – Jesus Christ from Matthew Chapter 5 Verse 28.

      I TRULY AGREE.

      Cyber-adultery may not exist but Sy must have got it from the orders of re-interpretative religion from the Vatican.

      Watching porn should also be punishable by beheadings .

      • 6.1.1
        macspeed says:

        he he he he that is goot, gagawa ng cybercrime law kulang pa, isama na rin yan>>Watching porn should also be punishable by beheadings

        my goodness, ito na lang kasayahan ko maliligwak pa dahil cybercrime law na yan, dapat regulations lang, wag parusa then 1 degree higher pa penalty?

        Adultery is only in real life, kung makikita yun evidencia sa internet na mag dadate sila, pede magsama ka ng pulis at hulihin sa akto, guide or help lang yun sa internet info.

        Ang babae kung gagawa ng kasamaan, bakit mag iinternet pa sya???

    • 6.2
      leona says:

      Had DOJ Sy consulted and work out the cybercrime law with Raissa and CPMers here, that bill would have been summarily thrown into the garbage can, for dustbin history!

      There is or was an evil motive WHY this law, not studied very well, was soooooo hurriedly passed and signed into law.

      Just imagine, all the provisions of the Revised Penal Code and even SPECIAL LAWS all crammed into the Cybercrime bill…the lawmerriers just couldn’t wait to study all this. Evil Evil Evil. Now, as I said, the proponents and authors are holding HOT BARS OF IRON before the SC. Will the Court ‘touch or feel’ these bars too? Who wants burned hands!

  38. 5
    Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

    JESUS MARY MOTHER OF GOD HELP US FROM THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR OWN … !!!

    Cyber-Adultery? Cyber-Marriage? Cyber-divorce?

    If there is such thing as Cyberadultery, there should be cyber-marriage and cyber-divorce, RIGHT? Well, we already have e-Harmony, cyber-friends, virtual friends. Going out to see physical friends is sooooo in the 90s. Aw, c’mon. I visit friends virtually. We exchange pictures like I send it thru Philippine post.

    What about sexual fantasy ? That is adultery, too !!!!!! HOw would a partner feel if they are having sex while watching Brad Pitt and Zooey Zinfandel’s pictures for arousal?

    HAS THE FILIPINO SENATE GONE CRAZY ? INSANE?

    Well, Filipinos get what they voted for.

    • 5.1
      Alan says:

      yep, they got Estrada. Then they got Arroyo. Oh, wait , they didn’t vote for her. Garci did

      • 5.1.1
        Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

        Aw, c’mon, Alan, stop flogging a dead horse. Garci is absolutely history. There was not even voiceprint verification of the telephone call. It may be acceptable to 3rdworld Asian trash country but totally not acceptable in 1stworld 21st century countries without voice verification which to this day this 3rdworld Asian trash has not done so.

        Well, 3rdworld justice for 3rdworld englischtzes-proud-country.

        • 5.1.1.1
          Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

          That is why Aling Gloria graduate from 1stworld ivy-school is confident she can get away with it along with Garci because it was illegal wiretapping …..

          I remember my parents told me about O.J. Simpson. There was a Filipino houseslave that heard something, a Filipno glove manufacturing executive wanted to testify but American Judge did not have them put in the stand because they are not reliable.

          That is a big slap on Filipino race.

          • 5.1.1.1.1
            Alan says:

            Now tell us what you feel about certain shady ex-chief justices with huge dollar accounts

        • 5.1.1.2
          Alan says:

          tsk tsk, I notice how you have a crush on Gloria. Any other sleazy officials you defend?

  39. 4
    parekoy says:

    @raissa,

    I have a different take on this.

    Why should the state keep this adultery law as crime? This is based on biblical times and we should grow up. It is a family matter but not a state matter. Why do we try to uphold the separation of church and state yet we have laws based on the imposed moralities of the church?

    I am not against treating it as a misdemeanor. But as a crime, we are too hypocritical and imposing moralities to consenting adults.

    If it is to be taken as a breach of marriage contract, then we can make provisions in the laws that can punish the offender in the civil courts by awarding cash commensurate to the economic loss of the plaintiff as punitive damages.

    We also need to get rid of adultery laws as a crime in tandem with creating divorce laws. Only then we can claim that our laws are just regarding couples.

    • 4.1
      Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      SEXUAL FANTASY is a biblical crime. If you beleive in God you believe in the bible, therefore, fantasy is a crime.

      Heeeelllllo !!!!! Knock! Knock! Dr. Holmes ? You, there?

      Sexual fantasy is like cyber adultery, right, ‘home? Errrrr, Holmes?

      The Senate will be controlling our minds, too !!!! WoW!!!!!!!!!

      Why would they be controlling my minds when they cannot even tell that these helicopters against Chinese cannot even fly round trip to Spratleys and the brilliant Philippine Media are sooooo silent in impeaching Co Huang Co on these.

      • 4.1.1
        Alan says:

        so wait, these are different from the helicopters that Arroyo’s husband used and then sold at a markup to the military? are those the ones you’re referring to?

    • 4.2
      leona says:

      @Parekoy…adultery is plain and simple prohibited SEX. Biblical or whatever, it’s a subjective crime, a spouse complains about it. State entertains the complaint.

      It was long committed before the time of Moses. Divorce before his time was not allowed. Watch Cecil de Mille’s Ten Commandments…7th Article THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY…implanted in the Tablets via cyberspace, written with fire on stone! Nice movie, classic.

      What then if it was in the Ten Commandments? Moses had to think. Remedy? He had to allow DIVORCE between SPOUSES for the crime of adultery as adultery couldn’t be stopped. Amend the crimes of adultery and concubinage by putting an additional CLAUSE – divorce for both crimes.

  40. 3
    Parekoy says:

    @Raissa

    I have a different take on this.

    Why should the state keep this adultery law as crime? This is based on biblical times and we should grow up. It is a family matter but not a state matter. Why do we try to uphold the separation of church and state yet we have laws based on the imposed moralities of the church?

    I am not against treating it as a misdemeanor. But as a crime, we are too hypocritical and imposing moralities to consenting adults.

    If it is to be taken as a breach of marriage contract, then we can make provisions in the laws that can punish the offender in the civil courts by awarding cash commensurate to the economic loss of the plaintiff as punitive damages.

    We also need to review the elimination of adultery laws as a crime in tandem with creating divorce laws. Only then we can claim that our laws are just regarding couples.

    • 3.1
      raissa says:

      I agree.

      We need to review these laws.

    • 3.2
      springwoodman says:

      1. I would go farther and say adultery is neither a felony nor a misdemeanour.
      2. But what about concubinage and bigamy?
      3. If one were logically consistent, one would have to admit that – beyond legal definitions – sexual relationships between and among consenting adults should not be considered a criminal offense. Islam recognizes polygyny and, although rare, certain cultures approve of polyandry.

      4. Both men and women have promiscuous tendencies.
      5. If the offspring were properly protected, provided for and properly brought up, should not any and all types of marital arrangements be allowed?
      6. Should not polygamy be considered a feasible solution to poverty – and the neglect of children – in the Philippines?

      • 3.2.1
        Parekoy says:

        Polygamy according to Moslem Laws is conditional too. Men are allowed upto four wives, as long as he was given consent by the other wives.

        In my view, this is unfair to women and one-sided. If men are allowed to marry four, why not the women too?

  41. 2
    netty says:

    I am not a religious person but I just c/p this biblical event re: adultery that Jesus chanced to judge.
    The crowd caught an adulterous woman and here’s what ff ; ““We caught her committing adultery … we caught her in the very act. The Law of Moses says she should die. What do you say?
    Jesus was faced with quite a dilemma! Before Him that morning was a woman unquestionably guilty of a serious offense. There was no way Jesus could question the validity of the accusation, and there is no evidence He did. She was caught in the act; there were witnesses; the woman herself was not denying the charge. Her guilt was indisputable! Under the Law of Moses the penalty for adultery was DEATH. Leviticus 20:10 declares that when an adulterous situation occurs, both “the adulterer and the adulteress (i.e., both the man and the woman) shall surely be put to death.” Deuteronomy 22:22-24 clearly states the same severe penalty! God views this as a serious matter, even though many of His people seemingly do not.” Truly this has broad interpretation that not only confines to penetration between married/unmarried couples. In biblical concept even one desirous longing for a woman or a man is already an unfaithfulness within one’s heart. Here’s more food for thought for Assec. Sy. In traditional theology and I ask him to consult the tireless Catholic authorities aka bishop et al that in some religion, even intermingling with other race is regarded as adultery. Sex with animals is also considered adulterous so the partner is not supposed to be only human.This law re of Ph adultery is very much a macho protector and breathes of a double standard. These PNOY OFFICIALS NEED TO CYBER-RESEARCH a lot to dig in to be able to reach the so called 18 hole, hihihii

    • 2.1
      Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      How would the government track cyber-adultery ? If they cannot even arrest a wang-wanger, Hackers how would the government do that?

      THIS IS TRULY A FIGMENT OF BORED SENATE’S IMAGINATION.

      We will again be laughing stock of the world.

      THE SENATE and the MEDIA atre now thinking like PYONGYANG.

      MIght as well OUTSOURCE THE PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT …… PLEASE …….

    • 2.2
      Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      I AM LOVING THIS CYBER-ADULTERY.

      HEre is why, FINALLY, there is a legal way of eliminating FILIPINOS FROM THE FACE OF THE WORLD.

      Cyber-ADultery Deuteric Deuterimos Deuteronmy Astronomy.

      LET IT PASS !!!!! Once the Filipinos has been cyber-adulterated I WILL PICK islands of BAtnangas as my cyber vacation spot.

    • 2.3
      tristanism says:

      O e ano na po nangyari dun sa babae?

      (Curious lang po.)

      • 2.3.1
        netty says:

        You mean the woman mentioned in the story? First of all we don’t know if it was sexual in nature. Keep in mind that perhaps even the bible has other/ different meanings of the word adultery. W e know in this modern day that adultery is sexual cohabitation, one night stand is just a fling. Suffice it to say for yours , mine and others curiosity , the woman ” shall not inherit the kingdom of God” .. dead or alive she was toast, good q Tristan, you made me think. too.

  42. 1
    Johnny Lin says:

    I’m off the rodeo rope of cyber sheriff Geronimo Sy.
    I’m guilty of adultery, not the usual kind, not even cyber adultery.
    My crime is not yet included in cybercrime law.

    It is “Adulterinception”.
    Remember Inception of Leonardo DiCaprio.

    Now that Sec Sy have read this word, I’m afraid he will incorporate it also in the cybercrime law.

    What kind of intelligence does PNoy put in charge in his administration?
    Rico Puno of DILG, Gen Pangilinan of BMJP, now DOJ Asec Sy.
    Wow!

    • 1.1
    • 1.2
      Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      “What kind of intelligence does Pnoy put in charge …”

      MY IMMUTABLE AXIOM #69 still works to this day and forever will be …

      “WHAT GOOT IS A GOOT PRESIDENT IF 99.99998% OF FILIPINOS ARE NOT GOOT?”

      It is no wonder former President U.S. McKinley has had sleeless nights and migraine and headaches when Dewey asked McKinley, “SIR, SPANIARDS ARE DEAD. We have Filipinos in our hands. What should we do? Leave them to their devices or colonize and RE-EDUCATE THEM?”

      McKinley: “Dewey, put Philippines on the map. We will re-educate them BECAUSE FILIPINOS ARE DANGER TO THE PLANET EARTH”

      Dewey: “Aye Aye, sir. Who will lead the Filipinos?”

      McKinley: “Bring back that S-O-B Gen Aguinaldo that sold Philippines and the Filipinos for six pence and have him lead”

      Dewey: “Aye Aye, sir. We will send useless ARMED-LESS HARM-LESS coast guard cutter to fetch Gen Aguinaldo”

      The rest is history … Sold-out Filipinos made Gen Aguinaldo their president and to this day remain forever and forever there will always be.

    • 1.3
      parekoy says:

      Ergo, Pacifico is underqualified to be employed by PNoy admin?

      • 1.3.1
        Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

        I am qualified. Look at the percentages above it says 99.99998%

        The 0.0000002% is benign0 and I, me, mine.

        • 1.3.1.1
          manuelbuencamino says:

          Pacifico there are not enough straight jackets, padded cells, and medications in this world for you and benignO.

          • 1.3.1.1.1
            Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

            I take offense of placing my name and benign0 in one sentence. benign0 of Get Real? Oh, puhleeez. Now I am getting rashes. benign0 is true blue anti-anything thy kingdom come. While I am more in DAAN-MATUWID in a dirt road to the boondocks.

            Gosh, you are reading off my comment above. I do not mean benign0 of Get Real that are the last remaining sane Filipino. I meant benign0 Simeon Co Huang Co A Qui No.

            Whenever I use benign0 it doesn’t mean benign0 of Get Real. IT MEANS OUR PRESIDENT.

            Since we are at benign0 of Get Real, I just wonder how he is doing. I hear his website has become cyber-derelict along with Filipino Voices.

            • Johnny Lin says:

              Mariano

              Adulterinception is adulterous dreams
              Your aligning with Benigno Co juang co is known as INTELLECEPTION in Inception or Dreamworld, that is dreaming to be INTELLIGENT ON YOUR PART in the level of President Aquino.

              BenignO answer to you is HELL, AQUI NO( hell, here No)!!!

              Capitalized to wake you up
              He he he

      • 1.3.2
        leona says:

        We’re getting nowwhere in many exchanges! Raissa worked so hard for every piece of article she puts here and we cannot abandon not to reciprocate for her tireless efforts by making comments unrelated to the important points or issues raised up.

        Let’s be that considerate. Once in a while ok but not 99.9999% unknowable comments. Do we want readers to find out such a kind of bloggings? Poor taste karamihan ang labas natin lahat dito.

        Can we do it or not? This is CPM place. I love this place but but but I am not sure for long.

        • 1.3.2.1
          e.a. pascual says:

          have found the solution to tiresome repetitive irrelevant rants whose only purpose that i can see is to make noise so as to attract notice and attention: include them in the count of vewers that come to this site and they will serve statistics favorable to this site but. do not read them and most importantly do not respond to them. we are talking here of the power of shunning and ignoring. let us continue to pay attention to what will educate and empower us. the discipline we develop in using this approach will empower us in the long run.

  43. Jan says:

    There is no such banana as cyberadultery. Any conclusion that there is such a thing is a result of a reading of a badly crafted law. Tawag dyan impossible crime. Ganyan ang nangyayari kung hindi napag-isipan ng maigi ang paggawa ng batas.

  44. raissa says:

    I’ve updated this post – in reply to RM –

    Sex without contact

    http://raissarobles.com/2013/01/16/sex-without-contact/

    • netty says:

      Raissa, just a curious question. Some instances here that occur in the popular use of social media like FB, Twitter etc where couples now whether same sex or not separate/divorce depending what law prevails in their country.. If the case goes to court due to reasons of custody or for any other reason to dissolve/separate the union, does this constitute this cyber adultery? I am excited to hear the free opinion of our friend RM.

  45. Martial Bonifacio says:

    Complete audio of 1st oral debate in SC regarding cybercrime law.

    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/features/oral_arguments/cybercrime/cybercrime-01-15-13.mp3

  46. baycas says:

    Warning: NSFW

    Wow, this blog never ceases to amaze me…

    It’s rather naughty or kinky…but I wouldn’t think that operational definitions of “cyber sexual intercourse” and “cyber carnal knowledge” will be insinuated here.

    Both, I have read in a few comments but somehow with improvement or modification, may mean:

    Sexual penetration or close sexual contact with a continuously ringing device or gadget equipped with 3G, 4G or LTE capability and put on Vibration mode

    Tsk, it is now even harder to prosecute because weak or bad signal may be a defense…

    Hmm, perhaps cyber adulterers will get hold of smart phones with dual, triple, or quintuple SIM cards.

  47. PCC says:

    I find it weird. Why did you delete my previous post while you allow jokes?

    • raissa says:

      I didn’t delete anything.

      This is what you posted and it is up –

      I sent you an email regarding an extremely important matter about the cyberlaw that needs equal and full attention just like the libel part but nobody seems to notice it. There are enough lawyers pounding for the removal of the libel part , the search without warrant but no one has notice a part of the law the will hinder and bind the hands of current and future generation of internet guys from creating great websites.
      I want you to be the 1st one to write about it.
      Check your spam folders.
      If you cant find it, email me.
      I want it to remain confidential for the moment. analyze it. It is absolutely important that this should be brought to the attention of the public and should also be scrapped from whatever would be left of the cyber law (if the SC allow a revised cyberlaw new edition).
      It is Anti Filipino, Anti Filipino businessmen, Anti cyber rights and productivity of Filipino, Anti Filipino opportunity, anti internet technology. If this unnoticed part of the cyber law pass, it will literally put multitudes of internet guys (now and future generations) in danger and thus, will forever make the Philippines uncompetitive in the Internet age. It is about one of the very foundation of the internet, and the crappy cyberlaw will basically hinder or limit Filipinos to grab opportunities.

      • PCC says:

        Have you read my email? I sent it a long time ago. You seem not interested at all what it is. I did not receive any reply. It is ok if you are not interested, i just want to (hopefully) to be at least notified that what I am saying doesn’t interest you or is not worthy to be pursued. If you will only read it and find the logic on what it means you would clearly understand the repercussion or negative effect it will have. All media personnel are focused on the libel part and the search without warrant because it is what will get media attention but none has spent even a minute to investigate further other errors in the cyber law that needs to be deleted.If you have not read it, kindly tell me where to sent it (email), or do you want me to post it online on another site like wordpress or tumblr (while i want you to read it 1st and find out if i am mistaken or not). You seem to have enough clout to ask important people to look into the said matter than I have. What do you think?

        • raissa says:

          I have not received any e-mail from you.

          • PCC says:

            I have on raissarobles dot com at gmail dot com dot = “.” for antibots.
            I have no choice than but post a link here.
            do not forget to visit this exact link, i will post it online. I will recompose it and post the link here in your site. Please read it. If you are a reader here, please re visit this link tonight and read the post. Join the conversation and maybe Rissa can create a full post if it is worth the attention. I believe it does and not only a post but a petition for it to be deleted from the cyberlaw(new edition). Thanks

            • raissa says:

              I just checked again. I have not received anything from you in that e-mail address.

              Just copy and paste here what you want to say. I’m sure the other commenters would want to know.

              Thanks.

        • fed_up says:

          @FCC. Please take patience. As a commenter in this blog since the time it was debated which name should be given to this community (it was eventually agreed upon to be called CPM for “Cyber Plaza Miranda”) I have been fed up a number of times waiting for my comments to be posted here.

          Though it took time, all my comments have been posted, sometimes duplicated because I got impatient as to repeat the posting.

          This blogging thing is a new technology we are all enjoying but sometimes technology can be a burden.

    • Parekoy says:

      @PCC

      Please check if you added hyper links, this site automatically quarantines the comments with those. The waiting time is about an hour to release those. It happened to me too.

      Don’t worry, Raissa’s site is an Equal Opportunity Site (EOS), even some nutcase comments are allowed here as I observed.

      We can’t wait to read your urgent message!

      • The Thinker says:

        You are right. In a country full of nutcase, an intelligent person would be a social deviant among nutcase.

        • Baltazar says:

          @ The Thinker
          …that’s just another euphemism. So which one are you , the intelligent or the nutcase.?.and have you seen PCC’s comments such that you can categorize him as one of the two cases?

          • The Thinker says:

            @Baltazar, grow up, listen and learn. Assuming if you know how to read, understand simple elementary English what did PCC said again? What was the issue of his e-mail to Raissa that you allude that I have read?

            How can I know what her issue is when she did not post his query to Raissa in this blog?

            Baltazar with your age and supposedly wisdom you are just normal. A normal nutcase in my definition among many.

            As what this wacko who calls himself Mariano Renato Pacifico: “TO HAVE A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM IS TO KNOW THE PROBLEM FIRST”

            So, Baltazar, I cannot know PCC’s issues are but definitely I cannot know because she did not post it here unless I am clairvoyant which majority of the Filipinos still rely on.

            Thank you.

            P.S. Please do not bother to respond. Because your response is likely another of your snipping and tirade that is unsubstantiated like the Philippine Media.

            • Baltazar says:

              @The THinker

              So, Baltazar, I cannot know PCC’s issues are but definitely I cannot know because she did not post it here unless I am clairvoyant which majority of the Filipinos still rely on.

              Let me repeat what I said in one thred:
              Do not argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with their idiotic experience

              So you too believe in clairvoyant while you are accusing Pinoys of beleiving one. So you have answered my question, you intelligent
              Case Rested!

  48. Parekoy says:

    Break muna para more fun in the CPM

    Syno ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Anonymous Philippines’ hacks gov’t webSytes anew!
    -balitang halaw sa Philstar

    Dahil sa panibagong paghaSyk ng mga hackers para ireklamo ang karapatang pantao sa pamamahayag, nagpanik ang Malakanyang. Ang reklamo ng mga hackers ay dahil sa ADULTERATED na Sybercrime Law. Titigil lang daw Syla pag tinanggal ang mga ADULTERATED proviSyons at pangalanan at tanggalin sa pwesto ang mga ADULTERERS ng Sybercrime Law. Namumutla, namumula at kumikislap na parang krismas layt ang bumbunan ni PNoy sa galit.

    Madaling irepeal ni Pnoy ang mga probiSyon dahil hawak nya rin ang TongreSyo, Syetnado, at andon na Sy Syreno sa Korte Suprema. Pero ang problema ni PNoy ay kung Syno ang may pakana ng nakakahiyang mga probiSyon ng Sybercrime Law. Inatasan nya ang NBI, PNP, at iba pang sangay ng gobyerno sa pagimbestiga kung Synong henyo ang may kagagawan nito.

    PaSyguro rin Sy Pnoy. Dahil alam nya na tSysmoso ang karamihan ng mga Pilipino baka may mag syngsyng. So inatasan nya ang isang Sexy Reporter (Malaki rin ang Futures) na mag-interbyu sa mga PUlitiko at iba-ibang personalidad sa bansa. Humayo at nang-interbyu ang reporter.

    Reporter: Syno ho ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Syetnator Miriam:
    (Nakita ang camera at automatic na nakangiti dahil bagong facial/botox pero bago sumagot biglang naging seryoso at inilabas ang kanyang mga pangil at umuusok ang tenga) . Sy Syetnator PonSy Enrile yan. Alam naman natin kung Syno ang namahagi ng “Christmas Gifts sa Syetnado”, Synoli ko pa nga dahil alam ko suhol yun sa panantili nya sa pagka PreSyetdente ng Syetnado. Syno ba ang MarSyal Law Administrator? Syno ang nagpayaman Symula pa noong panahon ni Marcos?Hukluban na yan mahilig pa manliligaw, pa-coup-coup pa cuopal naman, ngayon gusto pang maging Syetnador ang kanyang anak. Daanin na lamang naming sa BokSying, kung Syno ang matalo Sya ang Adulterer ng Sybercrime Law!

    Syetnator JPonSyE:
    (Papungay ng mata at iSynilid sa kwelyo ang kanyang kulubot na balat sa leeg, habang nagpapak ng Viagra) ADULTERER? Ako? Ayoko ng patulan yan, alam naman natin kung Syno ang may tama sa ulo. Sya nga pagkagraduate nya, nagtrabaho agad yan sa gobyerno kay Kokoy (Kapatid ni Imelda) at alam ko ni hindi nag practice yan. Ako yumaman ako kaSy nagpractice ako bago pa ako nag Symula sa gobyerno. Sya ang imbestigahan natin, ang yaman nya na rin, laki pa ng mga bahay. Anong sabi nya, nanliligaw ako sa kanya? Hindi ah, naman may taste naman ako, aminin ko kay Loren oo, pero yung Chief of Staff ko, wow Syuper. At yong paninira nya na gawa-gawa kong ambush nong MarSyal Law sa libro ko, sabihin nyo sa kanya mas fictitious yung kanyang pagka Expert nya Kuno sa Constitutional Law, ilabas nya nga grades nya sa UP. Haay, ayoko na ngang pumatol dyan. May kasabihan kaSy: Pag pumatol ka sa isang Syra-ulo eh di Syra-ulo ka rin. Pag-usapan na lang natin ang kandidatura ng anak ko, hindi mamatay tao yan at lalo na hindi rapist.

    Syetnatorial Jacky PonSyE: Iboto nyo ako para maimbestigahan ko yan sa Syetnado, kaSy gusto ko happy rin kayo. Ulitin ko hindi ko trip yung pagiging Adulterer, gusto ko hapi wife ko. Pero yung pagiging killer at rapist…(tinapik ng tatay at Synenyasan na itigil na ang interbyu.)

    PreSyetdente Erap: Adulterer? Naman. Anong ebidenSya nyo? Kahit tanungin nyo pa Sy Loi, Sy Guia, Sy Laarni, saka Sy Joy. Plunderer okay, pero Adulterer never. Maling akusaSyon yan, hindi ako mahilig sa matanda (Adult), mahilig ako sa mga diSye. Hwag nyo nga pa lang kalimutan, iboto JV.

    Reporter: Syr, nagtatanong lang po kung alam nyo, hindi ko po Synasabi na kayo

    PreSyetdente Erap: Ganon ba, paki bati nga kay Gloria, “Una Una lang yan, he he…”. Tanungin nyo Sy Syabit, baka may listahan yun.

    Syabit Syngson: Synabi ni Erap yun?(Nagsuot muna ng shades na parang sa tutubi) Hindi ako ang nag insert nyan, pero pabor ako dyan lalo na yung sa adultery. Dapat yung asawa ko nakulong yun, ano ba ang karapatan nya na magboyfriend kahit hiwalay na kami, adultery pa rin yun. Kaming mga lalaki pwedeng kumuha kahit pa ilang babae, pero sila hindi. Tularan dapat ng batas ang parusa ko sa adultery. Ganito. Bugbugin yung lalaki, ilabas ang ari (liit naman ng ari ng boyfriend ng asawa ko), hawakan ng maiigi, at martilyuhin.

    Syetnatorial JV EjerSyto: Syguro yung isang bansot na Syetnador ang nag insert nyan. Halata naman Sya na ayaw nya akong maging Syetnador, gusto nya Sya na lang ang laging Sykat, Sya na lang ang bida, Sya na lang ang paborito ni Daddy, alam ko Sya ang panganay pano naming kaming ibang mga kafatid? Sya nga Syguro…

    Syetnator Jinggoy: Hoy Syadaffbadaff!

    Syetnator(a?) Koko: (Tinamaan) Walang ganyanan Jinggoy, courteSy naman sa kapwa Syetnador. Pero Miss Reporter, sa tingin ko ipinasok yang probiSyon nayan nong ni Syubiri pa ang nakaupo. Hudas yan, mandaraya, kaya Adulterer ng Sybercrime, Sya yon. Hoy Syubiri, amihnihn. Pag nakita ko Sya, kukurutin ko Sya, pero gwapo Sya diba?

    Syetnatorial Syubiri: Hmmp, kaya ka iniwan ng asawa mo, mas malandi ka pa sa kanya. Hindi ako aaah. Aminin ko na lang na may alam ako sa dayaan noon sa Mindanao sa tulong ni PreSyetdente Gloria, GarSy at ng mga Sycho Ampatuan, pero nagSyngit nyan never!

    Syetsya*Gloria: Ano bayan Syubiri, nanahimik na ako ditto sa St Luke, Hello?

    *masarap lang pakinggan

    Syiter(Cheater) GarSy: Tawag kaba Maam? Kulang pa ba yung 1M?

    Sycho Ampatuan: Pisting kang yawa’a ka Syubiri, nanahimik ko dito sa kulungan Bay, hwag nako damay. Piro Miss Reporter, sa tingin ko yung hinahanap nyo, Sya rin ang bumaon dun sa midya , Sya yon. Naghanting lang kami baboy ramo dun, nagkataon lang na napadaan dun yung cunvuy ng miSys ni Mangungudato at midya. Hwag naman aku husgahan. Piro pag inamin ko ba na ako yung pumatay sa priss pridom sa Sybercrime, abswilto aku sa masakir? Kung uu, aminin ko na.

    Syxyparin Korina: Syno ba ang pandak at maitim na maligno at atat na maging PreSyetdente? Pati anak nya na wala namang alam at bano pa, pinatakbo pa sa Syetnado. Di na magkaSya sa kanila ang pagiging Mayor ng Makati, Tongresswoman, at Bise PreSyetdente. Talagang namamaligno na tayo. Maligno SyxSyxSyx Dynasty yan.Syla na nga!

    SyxSyxSyx NanSy Binay: (Habang namimili ng mga Belo whitening products) Grabe naman kayo kung laitin nyo ang Daddy ko. Proud ho kami sa kulay namin. Bata pa lang ho ako, ang orientation naming magkakapatid ay towards public Syrvice so iyon ang strong point namin, our deSyre to help. Kaya nga ako ang plataporma ko, dapat magpaganda ka. Tag line ko: Kay Binay, gaganda ang buhay.

    Reporter: Whatever…

    Reporter pumunta sa presscon para update sa Atimonan Overkill

    Sycretary Ochoa: (May hangover pa) Alam ko yung probiSyon nayan, proposal lang yan noon, pero hindi ko inapruban yan, wala ngang pondo eh. Sabi sakin ni Dumlao, mga gun- for- hire daw to. Sana naman hwag ng patulan to ni Sycretary Padyak Mar.

    Dumlao: Coplan Armado Sybercrime. Yan po ang pangalan ng operaSyon namin. Yun nag-insert ng libel probiSyon yung target namin sa Atimonan. Sy Supt.Hansel Manratrat ang operations offiSyr, paki tanong nyo Sya.

    Supt. Manratrat: Confirmed po, Sy Syman nga po. Rubout? Nanlaban po, yun kailangan depensahan naming ang sarili namin. Opo 24 kaming pulis at 25 na mga kapatid na mga sundalo. Nawawalang 100milyon? Baka po naibigay na doon sa mga Syetnador na bumoto para mailusot nya Syung korberSyal na libel probiSyon. More than 400 na bala ang tumama sa sasakyan? Konti pa po yun. Rubout? Di po. Kahit itanong nyo pa don sa mga pamilya ng 16 biktima sa Paranaque nonng 2008, bayani po ako noon nabigyan pa ako ng promoSyon. Masakit pa po ang mga galos oops tama pala ng bala ko sa kamay at paa, pahinga na muna po ako.

    Syetnator Lacson: Rubout? Hwag muna tayong maSyadong mag-speculate, magaling na mga enforcers yan Syla Dumlao at Hansel Manratrat, uphold nyan ang batas. Alam ko ang nararamdaman nila ngayon, dumaan din ako dyan nung ako ay naakusahan sa Kuratong Baleleng, pero ano napatunayan ba nila? Sa tingin ko Sy Syman talaga ang nag insert ng probiSyon.

    Nagtanong naman Sy Miss Reporter sa mga Taipans.

    LuSyo Tan: Tingin ko funded yan ni Sy. Alam mo naman yan gustong Sya na lang lagi ang pinakamayaman sa Pilipinas. Ano ang purpose nya? May lihim kaSy yan at gusto nyang itago, so kailangan higpitan ang freedom of speech sa internet, baka lumabas. Pero alam mo, may pagkaengot din yan, yung tinatago nya nasa pangalan ng kanyang mall. SM-Sadista na Masokista pa yan. Pano ko nalaman? Yung babae nya naging babae ko rin, yun iniwan nya, kaSy kung ano-ano daw kahalayan ang pinag-gagawa sa kanya. Call me anytime if you need anything, okay? (sabay kindat)

    Henry Sy: Synabi ni LuSyo yun? LuSyfer talaga yan, naungusan ko lang sa pagiging pinakamayaman sa Pinas, kung ano-ano na ang Synasabi. Syguro Sya, lahat nyan binibili panahon pa ng MarSyal Law hanggang ngayon. Yung mga Syetnators binibili nya. Please ask Syetnator Recto. Tingnan mo yung Syn Tax, diba sumingaw ang pangalan nya don? Sya yun. Call me anytime if you need anything, okay? (kumindat din pero hindi halata, halos nakapikit na kasi.)

    Nagdako Sy Miss Reporter sa Bilibid.

    Rolito Go: Sya yung nagkidnap sa akin sa loob ng kulungan.

    Antonio Sanchez: Pag itinuro ko ba mabibigyan ako ng pardon tulad ni Jalosjos?

    Meanwhile in Zamboanga City…kausap si Miss Sexy Reporter sa Cellphone

    Jalosjos: Ano iSynabit ang pangalan ko ni Sanchez? Rapist ako pero hindi ako rapist-murderer na tulad nya. Buhay, buhay yung bata! Kung gusto nyang lumabas, magbigay Sya dami namang nababayaran dyan sa Bilibid, ako diretso sa itaas, diba mam Glo? Kung makakalabas Sya, pwede rin Syang tumakbo under UNA, feel at home Sya. Mga Ex convicts, Plunderers, Rapists, mga Coup plotters, at iba pang mga astigs. Hwag nyo nga pala akong kalimutan sa darating na botohan. Mayor ng Zamboanga City under the Syga party of UNA. Syno sa tingin ko ang ADULTERER ng Sybercrime? PasenSya ka na ija, hindi ako tSysmoso at nagbalik-loob na ako ki God. Plug ko na rin yung programa ko sa mga kabataan dito sa Zambongga: iYOUTH(iyut), bale scholarship yun sa mga edad 12-16 na mga babae, kwalipikaSyon: maganda, sexy at bobo. Tapos ng interbyu, humayo at namigay ng mga kendi sa mga paslit sa lansangan…

    Nag Jeep sa UP Sy Miss Reporter, bumili ng banana q at nang interbyu ng mga frat boys.

    Sygma Rhoan: Pakana yan ng mga UpSylon. Andyan Sy Joker, Pangilinan, Remulla, at Fuentebella.

    UpSylonian: Pakana yan ng mga Sygma Rhoans. Nasa kanila Sy Enrile, Angara, Drilon, Villafuerte, Salas, at lalo na Sy Antonio Carpio.

    Alpha Phi Omega: Nagturuan ang dalwang tunggak. Good! Di nila alam nasa amin Sy Binay at Sy Chiz. Sa rambolan ala Syla sa amin. Pero walang aamin sa amin kaSy may Omerta kami. MafyoSy kami. PreSyetdente Binay 2016, APO, APO, APO!

    Dumaan na rin sa,Ateneo, UST, AMA at LaSalle at nang interbyu ng mga estudyante.

    Atenista: It is quite obvious who is going to benefit from strengthening the punishment of Adultery. Maka SyBiSyPi. Syempre mga taga USTe, mga sarado ang mga utak nyan, utak-Damaso. Kahit Syguro Synabi ng mga taga UST na lemons and cowards yung mga taga LaSalle, Sygurado ako hindi La Sallista yun, kailangan mo above 80 yung IQ para maipalusot mo yung ganong probiSyon. Taga AMA utak komiks pero marunong yun sa computer, remotely Syguro.

    USTe: Atenista yun! Mga Jesuits traydor ang mga yan, meron na naman yan binabalak para mas malakas ang impluenSya nila sa gobyerno. Bulok na style ng mga yan, panahon pa ng inquiSySyon. Pero Sygurado ako hindi LaSallista yun, obvious diba, baka taga AMA.

    Batang AMA: Syet Tsong, Dude.., Anti Cybercrime kami! Mga hackers kami, kita mo yung tumira sa mga webSytes ng gobyerno, Anonymous Philippines, ka-grupo namin Syla. Nagpa cute at sabi, “Miss gusto mo ng fishball?”

    LaSallista: What is that again? Sybercrime…Libel…Adultery? Can you please wait a minute, I’ll have to call my driver, baka alam nya yun.

    Miss Reporter: Hwag na…

    Dumaan na Sy Miss Reporter sa Senado, nag PM sa FB kay Kerry Kennedy at tinanong sa iSyu.

    Kerry Kennedy: Text message-“ Syetnator Syotto!”

    Nadaan Sy Syotto sa hall, interbyu agad ni Miss Reporter.

    Reporter: Syno ho ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Syetnator Syotto: (Nagpapogi muna, hinagod ang bigote at balbas para magmukhang matalino. Pinabilog ang boses) Nainterbyu mo na ba Sy Kennedy?

    Reporter: Oho, sumagot na sa text.

    Syetnator Syotto: Pareho kami ng sagot.

    Solve?

    Sundan ang susunod na kabanata…

    • leona says:

      Sa ibaba pareho din!…SYOTOO COPY ito?

      • Parekoy says:

        @leona,

        Pasensya na, na sandwich yong sayo. May link kasi kaya na quarantine yun, di ko alam akala ko nag error yung computer ko, yun resend ulit. Accidentally, na Syottocopy nga.

    • pinay710 says:

      @kabayan parekoy. aba eh daig mo si CAPARAS sa scrip writing. hahahhahha natauhan ako. ngayon lang sa tagal mula pumasok yung SIRA MRP dito sa CPM ngayon lang ako nabuhay muli. hahahhahahah!! puede ba magsuggest ng titulo ng scirp mo? eto? ANG SYBER SYSY!! BOW!! (mais no?) ganyan ang mag papatama sa mga GUNGGONG na nasa gobyerno natin. hindi naninigaw at hindi nagaalipusta pero may tama sa makabasa. hangang hanga ako sa iyo parekoy!!saka mas madali kong naintindihan ang situaSYon ng usapin dito. gustong gusto ko ang isytyle mo, SYr!!

    • pinay710 says:

      @parekoy, ang galing mong gumawa ng script. daig mo si CAPARAS. parang smorsgasbord ang dating. lahat ng artikulo ni raissa nasa isang script. hahahaha mula noong pumasok yung SIRANG MRP ngayon lang ako natuwa at natauhan. lalo kong naintindihan ang mga artikulo ni raissa. ito ang tamang iSYtle ng pagkokommento. hindi sumisigaw, hindi nanghihiya, hindi nanyayapak ng kapwa at hindi nagmamalaki. lalong maliwanag sa akin ang mga pangyayari. salamat ha. mas natututo ako sa iSYtle mo. you make my night with a SYmile!! hihihihi! ty po!

    • Rossi says:

      made me LOL hohohohohohohohohohohohooo…….

      very nice, indeed!!!!!

    • Baltazar says:

      @Parekoy
      Ngayon ko lang binasa kasi medyo mahaba.. syet.! .I really did burst into laughter in that part with Tia Miriam, The Huk (luban), Erap & Chavit ;-) . This is what I’m really calling as the icing of the cake. ..way to go parekoy.

    • tagasampaloc says:

      @Parekoy-
      Brilliant screen writing this blog of yours. Better than most graduates’ work majoring in screen writing at Columbia Uni in NY. You are the best!

    • netty says:

      Tsk, tsk, na- late ka yata sa Best Screenplay and Best Director of Cyber Comedy Story sa Golden Globe Award. -15 dito sa lugar ko , pero naginit ako sa katatawa..I am looking forward to read the part two, SYGE abangan ko.

  49. leona says:

    PataWA muna…Kwento tungkul kay EVA…

    EVE’S SIDE OF THE STORY . . .

    After three weeks in the Garden of Eden, God came to visit Eve. ‘So, how is everything going ?’ inquired God.

    ‘It is all so beautiful, God,’ she replied. ‘The sunrises and sunsets are breathtaking, the smells, the sights, everything is wonderful, but I have just one problem . . .

    It’s these breasts you have given me. The middle one pushes the other two out and I am constantly knocking them with my arms, catching them on branches and snagging them on bushes. They’re a real pain.’

    And Eve went on to tell God that since many other parts of her body came in pairs, such as her limbs, eyes, ears, etc . She felt that having only two breasts might leave her body more ‘symmetrically balanced’.

    ‘That’s a fair point,’ replied God, ‘But it was my first shot at this, you know. I gave the animals six breasts, so I figured that you needed only half of those, but I see that you are right. I will fix it up right away.’

    And God reached down, removed the middle breast and tossed it into the bushes .

    Three weeks passed and God once again visited Eve in the Garden of Eden.

    ‘Well, Eve, how is my favorite creation ?’

    ‘Just fantastic,’ she replied, ‘But for one oversight. You see, all the animals are paired off. The ewe has a ram and the cow has her bull. All the animals have a mate except me. I feel so alone.’

    God thought for a moment and said, ‘You know, Eve, you are right. How could I have overlooked this? You do need a mate and I will immediately create a man from a part of you. Let’s see . . . where did I put that useless boob?’

    Now doesn’t THAT make more sense than the rib story?!?!

    Para sa mga LALAKI, pag masdan ninyo!

    • pinay710 says:

      kung ganun pala hindi sa TADYANG kinuha si adan? heheheh kundi sa isang parte na walang PAKINABANG at PAMPAGULO? heheheheh kaya pala puro KALALAKIHAN ANG NAGNGUGULO SA MUNDO. kasi pinulot lang sila. hihihi pero mahal ko ang asawa kong LALAKE. at ang mga BABAE ang talagang makulit kaya hindi natahimik si Lord.hehehe tulad ni RAISSA makulit kaya daming natutuklasang mga KATOTOHANAN NA DAPAT NATING MALAMAN.

  50. Rolly says:

    Last year similar online Bills at the US (SOPA, Stop Online Piracy Act and PIPA Protect IP Act), but not even half as much potent as the Cybercrime Law, were unable to take off the ground due to incessant protests of its citizens.

    pcworld.com/article/248298/sopa_and_pipa_just_the_facts.html

  51. Parekoy says:

    Break muna para more fun in the CPM

    Syno ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Anonymous Philippines’ hacks gov’t webSytes anew
    http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/01/15/897221/anonymous-philippines-hacks-govt-webSytes-anew

    Dahil sa panibagong paghaSyk ng mga hackers para ireklamo ang karapatang pantao sa pamamahayag, nagpanik ang Malakanyang. Ang reklamo ng mga hackers ay dahil sa ADULTERATED na Sybercrime Law. Titigil lang daw Syla pag tinanggal ang mga ADULTERATED proviSyons at pangalanan at tanggalin sa pwesto ang mga ADULTERERS ng Sybercrime Law. Namumutla, namumula at kumikislap na parang krismas layt ang bumbunan ni PNoy sa galit.

    Madaling irepeal ni Pnoy ang mga probiSyon dahil hawak nya rin ang TongreSyo, Syetnado, at andon na Sy Syreno sa Korte Suprema. Pero ang problema ni PNoy ay kung Syno ang may pakana ng nakakahiyang mga probiSyon ng Sybercrime Law. Inatasan nya ang NBI, PNP, at iba pang sangay ng gobyerno sa pagimbestiga kung Synong henyo ang may kagagawan nito.

    PaSyguro rin Sy Pnoy. Dahil alam nya na tSysmoso ang karamihan ng mga Pilipino baka may mag syngsyng. So inatasan nya ang isang Sexy Reporter (Malaki rin ang Futures) na mag-interbyu sa mga PUlitiko at iba-ibang personalidad sa bansa. Humayo at nang-interbyu ang reporter.

    Reporter: Syno ho ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Syetnator Miriam:
    (Nakita ang camera at automatic na nakangiti dahil bagong facial/botox pero bago sumagot biglang naging seryoso at inilabas ang kanyang mga pangil at umuusok ang tenga) . Sy Syetnator PonSy Enrile yan. Alam naman natin kung Syno ang namahagi ng “Christmas Gifts sa Syetnado”, Synoli ko pa nga dahil alam ko suhol yun sa panantili nya sa pagka PreSyetdente ng Syetnado. Syno ba ang MarSyal Law Administrator? Syno ang nagpayaman Symula pa noong panahon ni Marcos?Hukluban na yan mahilig pa manliligaw, pa-coup-coup pa cuopal naman, ngayon gusto pang maging Syetnador ang kanyang anak. Daanin na lamang naming sa BokSying, kung Syno ang matalo Sya ang Adulterer ng Sybercrime Law!

    Syetnator JPonSyE:
    (Papungay ng mata at iSynilid sa kwelyo ang kanyang kulubot na balat sa leeg, habang nagpapak ng Viagra) ADULTERER? Ako? Ayoko ng patulan yan, alam naman natin kung Syno ang may tama sa ulo. Sya nga pagkagraduate nya, nagtrabaho agad yan sa gobyerno kay Kokoy (Kapatid ni Imelda) at alam ko ni hindi nag practice yan. Ako yumaman ako kaSy nagpractice ako bago pa ako nag Symula sa gobyerno. Sya ang imbestigahan natin, ang yaman nya na rin, laki pa ng mga bahay. Anong sabi nya, nanliligaw ako sa kanya? Hindi ah, naman may taste naman ako, aminin ko kay Loren oo, pero yung Chief of Staff ko, wow Syuper. At yong paninira nya na gawa-gawa kong ambush nong MarSyal Law sa libro ko, sabihin nyo sa kanya mas fictitious yung kanyang pagka Expert nya Kuno sa Constitutional Law, ilabas nya nga grades nya sa UP. Haay, ayoko na ngang pumatol dyan. May kasabihan kaSy: Pag pumatol ka sa isang Syra-ulo eh di Syra-ulo ka rin. Pag-usapan na lang natin ang kandidatura ng anak ko, hindi mamatay tao yan at lalo na hindi rapist.

    Syetnatorial Jacky PonSyE: Iboto nyo ako para maimbestigahan ko yan sa Syetnado, kaSy gusto ko happy rin kayo. Ulitin ko hindi ko trip yung pagiging Adulterer, gusto ko hapi wife ko. Pero yung pagiging killer at rapist…(tinapik ng tatay at Synenyasan na itigil na ang interbyu.)

    PreSyetdente Erap: Adulterer? Naman. Anong ebidenSya nyo? Kahit tanungin nyo pa Sy Loi, Sy Guia, Sy Laarni, saka Sy Joy. Plunderer okay, pero Adulterer never. Maling akusaSyon yan, hindi ako mahilig sa matanda (Adult), mahilig ako sa mga diSye. Hwag nyo nga pa lang kalimutan, iboto JV.

    Reporter: Syr, nagtatanong lang po kung alam nyo, hindi ko po Synasabi na kayo

    PreSyetdente Erap: Ganon ba, paki bati nga kay Gloria, “Una Una lang yan, he he…”. Tanungin nyo Sy Syabit, baka may listahan yun.

    Syabit Syngson: Synabi ni Erap yun?(Nagsuot muna ng shades na parang sa tutubi) Hindi ako ang nag insert nyan, pero pabor ako dyan lalo na yung sa adultery. Dapat yung asawa ko nakulong yun, ano ba ang karapatan nya na magboyfriend kahit hiwalay na kami, adultery pa rin yun. Kaming mga lalaki pwedeng kumuha kahit pa ilang babae, pero sila hindi. Tularan dapat ng batas ang parusa ko sa adultery. Ganito. Bugbugin yung lalaki, ilabas ang ari (liit naman ng ari ng boyfriend ng asawa ko), hawakan ng maiigi, at martilyuhin.

    Syetnatorial JV EjerSyto: Syguro yung isang bansot na Syetnador ang nag insert nyan. Halata naman Sya na ayaw nya akong maging Syetnador, gusto nya Sya na lang ang laging Sykat, Sya na lang ang bida, Sya na lang ang paborito ni Daddy, alam ko Sya ang panganay pano naming kaming ibang mga kafatid? Sya nga Syguro…

    Syetnator Jinggoy: Hoy Syadaffbadaff!

    Syetnator(a?) Koko: (Tinamaan) Walang ganyanan Jinggoy, courteSy naman sa kapwa Syetnador. Pero Miss Reporter, sa tingin ko ipinasok yang probiSyon nayan nong ni Syubiri pa ang nakaupo. Hudas yan, mandaraya, kaya Adulterer ng Sybercrime, Sya yon. Hoy Syubiri, amihnihn. Pag nakita ko Sya, kukurutin ko Sya, pero gwapo Sya diba?

    Syetnatorial Syubiri: Hmmp, kaya ka iniwan ng asawa mo, mas malandi ka pa sa kanya. Hindi ako aaah. Aminin ko na lang na may alam ako sa dayaan noon sa Mindanao sa tulong ni PreSyetdente Gloria, GarSy at ng mga Sycho Ampatuan, pero nagSyngit nyan never!

    Syetsya*Gloria: Ano bayan Syubiri, nanahimik na ako ditto sa St Luke, Hello?

    *masarap lang pakinggan

    Syiter(Cheater) GarSy: Tawag kaba Maam? Kulang pa ba yung 1M?

    Sycho Ampatuan: Pisting kang yawa’a ka Syubiri, nanahimik ko dito sa kulungan Bay, hwag nako damay. Piro Miss Reporter, sa tingin ko yung hinahanap nyo, Sya rin ang bumaon dun sa midya , Sya yon. Naghanting lang kami baboy ramo dun, nagkataon lang na napadaan dun yung cunvuy ng miSys ni Mangungudato at midya. Hwag naman aku husgahan. Piro pag inamin ko ba na ako yung pumatay sa priss pridom sa Sybercrime, abswilto aku sa masakir? Kung uu, aminin ko na.

    Syxyparin Korina: Syno ba ang pandak at maitim na maligno at atat na maging PreSyetdente? Pati anak nya na wala namang alam at bano pa, pinatakbo pa sa Syetnado. Di na magkaSya sa kanila ang pagiging Mayor ng Makati, Tongresswoman, at Bise PreSyetdente. Talagang namamaligno na tayo. Maligno SyxSyxSyx Dynasty yan.Syla na nga!

    SyxSyxSyx NanSy Binay: (Habang namimili ng mga Belo whitening products) Grabe naman kayo kung laitin nyo ang Daddy ko. Proud ho kami sa kulay namin. Bata pa lang ho ako, ang orientation naming magkakapatid ay towards public Syrvice so iyon ang strong point namin, our deSyre to help. Kaya nga ako ang plataporma ko, dapat magpaganda ka. Tag line ko: Kay Binay, gaganda ang buhay.

    Reporter: Whatever…

    Sycretary Ochoa: (May hangover pa) Alam ko yung probiSyon nayan, proposal lang yan noon, pero hindi ko inapruban yan, wala ngang pondo eh. Sabi sakin ni Dumlao, mga gun- for- hire daw to. Sana naman hwag ng patulan to ni Sycretary Padyak Mar.

    Dumlao: Coplan Armado Sybercrime. Yan po ang pangalan ng operaSyon namin. Yun nag-insert ng libel probiSyon yung target namin sa Atimonan. Sy Supt.Hansel Manratrat ang operations offiSyr, paki tanong nyo Sya.

    Supt. Manratrat: Confirmed po, Sy Syman nga po. Rubout? Nanlaban po, yun kailangan depensahan naming ang sarili namin. Opo 24 kaming pulis at 25 na mga kapatid na mga sundalo. Nawawalang 100milyon? Baka po naibigay na doon sa mga Syetnador na bumoto para mailusot nya Syung korberSyal na libel probiSyon. More than 400 na bala ang tumama sa sasakyan? Konti pa po yun. Rubout? Di po. Kahit itanong nyo pa don sa mga pamilya ng 16 biktima sa Paranaque nonng 2008, bayani po ako noon nabigyan pa ako ng promoSyon. Masakit pa po ang mga galos oops tama pala ng bala ko sa kamay at paa, pahinga na muna po ako.

    Syetnator Lacson: Rubout? Hwag muna tayong maSyadong mag-speculate, magaling na mga enforcers yan Syla Dumlao at Hansel Manratrat, uphold nyan ang batas. Alam ko ang nararamdaman nila ngayon, dumaan din ako dyan nung ako ay naakusahan sa Kuratong Baleleng, pero ano napatunayan ba nila? Sa tingin ko Sy Syman talaga ang nag insert ng probiSyon.

    Nagtanong naman Sy Miss Reporter sa mga Taipans.

    LuSyo Tan: Tingin ko funded yan ni Sy. Alam mo naman yan gustong Sya na lang lagi ang pinakamayaman sa Pilipinas. Ano ang purpose nya? May lihim kaSy yan at gusto nyang itago, so kailangan higpitan ang freedom of speech sa internet, baka lumabas. Pero alam mo, may pagkaengot din yan, yung tinatago nya nasa pangalan ng kanyang mall. SM-Sadista na Masokista pa yan. Pano ko nalaman? Yung babae nya naging babae ko rin, yun iniwan nya, kaSy kung ano-ano daw kahalayan ang pinag-gagawa sa kanya. Call me anytime if you need anything, okay? (sabay kindat)

    Henry Sy: Synabi ni LuSyo yun? LuSyfer talaga yan, naungusan ko lang sa pagiging pinakamayaman sa Pinas, kung ano-ano na ang Synasabi. Syguro Sya, lahat nyan binibili panahon pa ng MarSyal Law hanggang ngayon. Yung mga Syetnators binibili nya. Please ask Syetnator Recto. Tingnan mo yung Syn Tax, diba sumingaw ang pangalan nya don? Sya yun. Call me anytime if you need anything, okay? (kumindat din pero hindi halata, halos nakapikit na kasi.)

    Nagdako Sy Miss Reporter sa Bilibid.

    Rolito Go: Sya yung nagkidnap sa akin sa loob ng kulungan.

    Antonio Sanchez: Pag itinuro ko ba mabibigyan ako ng pardon tulad ni Jalosjos?

    Meanwhile in Zamboanga City…kausap si Miss Sexy Reporter sa Cellphone

    Jalosjos: Ano iSynabit ang pangalan ko ni Sanchez? Rapist ako pero hindi ako rapist-murderer na tulad nya. Buhay, buhay yung bata! Kung gusto nyang lumabas, magbigay Sya dami namang nababayaran dyan sa Bilibid, ako diretso sa itaas, diba mam Glo? Kung makakalabas Sya, pwede rin Syang tumakbo under UNA, feel at home Sya. Mga Ex convicts, Plunderers, Rapists, mga Coup plotters, at iba pang mga astigs. Hwag nyo nga pala akong kalimutan sa darating na botohan. Mayor ng Zamboanga City under the Syga party of UNA. Syno sa tingin ko ang ADULTERER ng Sybercrime? PasenSya ka na ija, hindi ako tSysmoso at nagbalik-loob na ako ki God. Plug ko na rin yung programa ko sa mga kabataan dito sa Zambongga: iYOUTH(iyut), bale scholarship yun sa mga edad 12-16 na mga babae, kwalipikaSyon: maganda, sexy at bobo. Tapos ng interbyu, humayo at namigay ng mga kendi sa mga paslit sa lansangan…

    Nag Jeep sa UP Sy Miss Reporter, bumili ng banana q at nang interbyu ng mga frat boys.

    Sygma Rhoan: Pakana yan ng mga UpSylon. Andyan Sy Joker, Pangilinan, Remulla, at Fuentebella.

    UpSylonian: Pakana yan ng mga Sygma Rhoans. Nasa kanila Sy Enrile, Angara, Drilon, Villafuerte, Salas, at lalo na Sy Antonio Carpio.

    Alpha Phi Omega: Nagturuan ang dalwang tunggak. Good! Di nila alam nasa amin Sy Binay at Sy Chiz. Sa rambolan ala Syla sa amin. Pero walang aamin sa amin kaSy may Omerta kami. MafyoSy kami. PreSyetdente Binay 2016, APO, APO, APO!

    Dumaan na rin sa,Ateneo, UST, AMA at LaSalle at nang interbyu ng mga estudyante.

    Atenista: It is quite obvious who is going to benefit from strengthening the punishment of Adultery. Maka SyBiSyPi. Syempre mga taga USTe, mga sarado ang mga utak nyan, utak-Damaso. Kahit Syguro Synabi ng mga taga UST na lemons and cowards yung mga taga LaSalle, Sygurado ako hindi La Sallista yun, kailangan mo above 80 yung IQ para maipalusot mo yung ganong probiSyon. Taga AMA utak komiks pero marunong yun sa computer, remotely Syguro.

    USTe: Atenista yun! Mga Jesuits traydor ang mga yan, meron na naman yan binabalak para mas malakas ang impluenSya nila sa gobyerno. Bulok na style ng mga yan, panahon pa ng inquiSySyon. Pero Sygurado ako hindi LaSallista yun, obvious diba, baka taga AMA.

    Batang AMA: Syet Tsong, Dude.., Anti Cybercrime kami! Mga hackers kami, kita mo yung tumira sa mga webSytes ng gobyerno, Anonymous Philippines, ka-grupo namin Syla. Nagpa cute at sabi, “Miss gusto mo ng fishball?”

    LaSallista: What is that again? Sybercrime…Libel…Adultery? Can you please wait a minute, I’ll have to call my driver, baka alam nya yun.

    Miss Reporter: Hwag na…

    Dumaan na Sy Miss Reporter sa Senado, nag PM sa FB kay Kerry Kennedy at tinanong sa iSyu.

    Kerry Kennedy: Text message-“ Syetnator Syotto!”

    Nadaan Sy Syotto sa hall, interbyu agad ni Miss Reporter.

    Reporter: Syno ho ba ang dapat SySyhin sa pag insert ng Libel ProviSyons at Adulterer ng SyberCrime Law?

    Syetnator Syotto: (Nagpapogi muna, hinagod ang bigote at balbas para magmukhang matalino. Pinabilog ang boses) Nainterbyu mo na ba Sy Kennedy?

    Reporter: Oho, sumagot na sa text.

    Syetnator Syotto: Pareho kami ng sagot.

    Solve?

    Sundan ang susunod na kabanata…

  52. baycas says:

    The exchange between @raissa and ASec Sy involved a hypothetical scenario as everyone already know by this time. I’ll add some…

    @joedelacruise at Comment No. 21 got it right that the email series is a proving fact (the factum probans) that will help in proving adultery (the factum probandum).

    @Rene-Ipil at Comment No. 15 also got it right in introducing the computer (and, thus, the online world too) as the prime element of proving cyber adultery. Examples are a person engaging in extramarital cyber sex who was caught in the act by the spouse or a recorded video starring a married person engaged in cyber sex with a person other than the spouse.

    We can see here that in both cases, (1) proving adultery by an email series and (2) proving cyber adultery by the act itself, the use of a computer and the online (virtual) world are present.

    The difference is that in case number 1, the email series is only the factum probans in proving adultery. In the latter, the act itself constitutes both the factum probans and the factum probandum in proving cyber adultery. However, an email series, if available as evidence, may also be a factum probans in order to strengthen case number 2.

    What is probably being ignored that is causing confusion is the fact that sexual intercourse in the virtual world happens. Regardless if virtual or real, sexual intercourse results in gratification. Physical penetration and exchange of body fluids need not be present.

    The offense is Cyber Adultery. Fact is, cyber [bleep] may exist, but perhaps, harder to prove.

    However, must it involve a one-degree higher penalty? I don’t know. I guess the difficulty in proving such an offense will merit such punishment…

    • baycas says:

      What I meant to say in the last paragraph was…

      However, must it involve a one-degree higher penalty? I don’t know. I guess the relative ease in committing and the difficulty in proving such an offense will merit such punishment…

    • raissa says:

      Hmmm. The good Assec may even now copying what you wrote.

    • baycas says:

      In general, an “operational definition” or functional definition of terms must be given…especially in proposed laws. This will prevent confusion.

      The excessive speed in making the Cybercrime Prevention Act was made led to uncertainties which led to unimaginable fear.

      Haste makes waste (HMW).

      —–

      Off-topic but somehow related…

      Constitutionally, the floor has always been open since 1987 to create an operational definition of “political dynasty”.

      Absent such definition, the perceived “political dynasty” does not exist.

    • Parekoy says:

      “sexual intercourse results in gratification”

      This definition of sex can always free the woman. The guy can’t fake the gratification, but the woman can argue that she was just faking it. Now this is tilted towards the woman…hmmm

      • Parekoy says:

        If the wife is doing the act with a lesbian, then there is no adultery?

        • baycas says:

          Offhand, I don’t know…

          Try checking if the RPC is gender-sensitive.

          • leona says:

            “Penetration” or ‘carnal knowledge’ [Rev.Penal Code] covers all forms and kinds…penis, tongue, finger, toe, atbpa! Lesbians ‘can’ have all these even ‘put-on belt type penis!” [Made in China & Japan]. It BLEEPS too!

      • baycas says:

        @Parekoy on No. 29.4…

        There you go…operational definition, again, is needed.

        Sexual intercourse in the real world may be different in the virtual world.

        But the fact that the f_ck [insert another bleep here] was consummated then either adultery or cyber adultery was committed.

  53. PCC says:

    I sent you an email regarding an extremely important matter about the cyberlaw that needs equal and full attention just like the libel part but nobody seems to notice it. There are enough lawyers pounding for the removal of the libel part , the search without warrant but no one has notice a part of the law the will hinder and bind the hands of current and future generation of internet guys from creating great websites.
    I want you to be the 1st one to write about it.
    Check your spam folders.
    If you cant find it, email me.
    I want it to remain confidential for the moment. analyze it. It is absolutely important that this should be brought to the attention of the public and should also be scrapped from whatever would be left of the cyber law (if the SC allow a revised cyberlaw new edition).
    It is Anti Filipino, Anti Filipino businessmen, Anti cyber rights and productivity of Filipino, Anti Filipino opportunity, anti internet technology. If this unnoticed part of the cyber law pass, it will literally put multitudes of internet guys (now and future generations) in danger and thus, will forever make the Philippines uncompetitive in the Internet age. It is about one of the very foundation of the internet, and the crappy cyberlaw will basically hinder or limit Filipinos to grab opportunities.

  54. RM says:

    i am not a supporter of this law as in fact i hate this law. but i hope you allow me to say my thoughts on your questions.There is no such crime as cyber adultery. let me be clear on that. If you will file an information in court charging the accused of the crime of “cyber adultery” the judge will dismiss it outright on the ground that the facts charged do not constitute an offense under Rule 117 of the Rules of Court. Even if the counsel for the defendant failed to file a motion to quash the information. the judge can motu proprio dismiss it. Another ground for dismissal is that the court has no jurisdiction over the offense charged because no such offense exists. how do we know that no such offense exists? we consult the revised penal code and the relevant special laws. so far no law has ever defined a crime such as cyber adultery. the rule is you cannot prosecute a person for a crime that does not exist. we cannot just identify an act and conclude that it is a crime say frustrated manslaughter there is no such crime that is defined under our laws even though it may exist in other countries. that would be dismissed outright as well. why is this so? because it is the constitutional right of every accused to be informed of the nature and cause of accusation against him. We also have to take note about the concept of bill of attainder and ex post facto law. the things i am talking about is not subject to a debate unless you are a lawyer, a law student, or a person who has devoted his whole life studying our judicial system in the Philippines. these things are very technical which cannot just be understood by reading blogs and news and opinion of others. you have to read our revised penal code. you have to read our family code. you have to read our constitution. you have to read the rules on civil procedure as well as criminal procedure and also the rules on evidence particularly the admissibility of evidence there are a bunch of requisites in order for an evidence to be admissible. you have to know what an object evidence is. what a documentary and testimonial evidence refer to. the best evidence rule the parol evidence rule the spousal immunity or the marital disqualification rule and distinguish it from marital privileged communication and from parental and filial privilege which you also have to connect in the provision under the Family Code particularly art. 215 regarding when the testimony of the witness is considered indispensable in a crime as an exception to the general rule and what crimes covered and committed by whom. this is why the study of law takes four years. it is not like we see a law we read it and then we understand it already no. we should not assume too much that we know about it especially if that is not our field of specialization.

    what is my point? i am not faulting anyone here who does not understand legal terms and principles precisely because law is a profession and not everyone pursues that profession. i cannot imagine what the world would be like if we are all lawyers. am i saying that you should just shut up instead? again, that is not my point. i am not saying that just because we dont understand these stuff we should just shut up instead. my point simply is it is okay to form our opinion and to express it for as long as we are knowledgeable about what we are talking about. just imagine talking about stuff pertaining to the practice of medicine and making it sound like we are licensed physicians when in fact we are not. We would sound utterly ridiculous actually from the point of view of the medical practitioners. it is okay to be a critic it is okay to be curious and inquisitive and aware of the happenings in our society. in fact everyone should be aware of what is happening to our society. but there are stuff like these things that we should be extra careful in commenting on otherwise we will sound ludicrous. its okay if we sound ludicrous but the problem is people who are likewise not knowledgeable about such matter will take it as gospel truth. look at us now we are talking discussing debating about cyber adultery when in fact it does not even exist.

    there is no cyber adultery but only adultery. and it does not refer to the Christians’ concept of what adultery is about. adultery is a designation of the crime explicitly defined under our Revised Penal Code and nothing else. under art. 333 of the RPC Adultery is committed by any married woman who shall have sexual intercourse with a man not her husband and by the man who has carnal knowledge of her knowing her to be married, even if the marriage be subsequently declared void. this is the only definition that we should follow for purposes of criminal prosecution in our country. adultery may have many other meanings but that should not concern us. we should not alter the words of the law. we should not modify the terms used. we should not interpret the meaning the way we understand it in layman’s terms. the words used may appear simple but they are not. there are hundreds and even thousands of cases already decided by the Supreme Court defining what a carnal knowledge means depending on the facts of the case. in one case (people vs. bormeo G.R. No. 91734. March 30, 1993.) decided by the supreme court carnal knowledge has been defined as the act of a man having sexual bodily connections with a woman; sexual intercourse. An essential ingredient thereof is the penetration of the female sexual organ by the sexual organ of the male. In cases of rape, however, mere proof of the entrance of the male organ into the labia of the pudendum or lips of the female organ is sufficient to constitute a basis for conviction. see? these a very very technical terms to which we should study before commenting on. do we apply the above definition of carnal knowledge in adultery? is the same as sexual intercourse in adultery? how do we prove carnal knowledge in adultery? can we prove it even without direct evidence? what is a direct evidence in the first place? how is it different from a circumstantial evidence? how about relevant evidence? corroborative evidence? material evidence? cumulative evidence? parol evidence? hearsay evidence? can we just define these stuff on our own? no. can we just cite internet definitions? no. they have technical meanings in our rules on evidence. Raissa is talking about factum probandum and factum probans and cites its meaning from i forgot what source but you see these things have precise meanings. factum probandum is the fact in issue. factum probans is the evidentiary fact by which a factum probandum is to be proved. does that make sense? i can go on and on and on but no one will ever understand me. the factum probandum in the crime of adultery for instance is whether or not the accused had sexual intercourse with a woman not his wife on the eve of bla bla bla at the house of bla bla bla. the factum probans is the evidentiary fact. the semen found on the floor. the underwear of the accused left in the room of the woman. the bystander who saw the man entered the house of the woman. these all constitute circumstantial evidence and by that it means evidence on collateral matters which establishes in any reasonable degree the probability or improbability of the fact in issue – the factum probandum. It may also constitute a direct evidence if there was witness who say the particular act. The would directly prove the fact in issue. is circumstantial evidence sufficient to convict a person of the crime of adultery? for this question we consult the jurisprudence. we consult the revised penal code. we look for precedents in past cases.

    the problem seems to be that catch all provision in the cybercrime law which provides SEC. 6. All crimes defined and penalized by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws, if committed by, through and with the use of information and communications technologies shall be covered by the relevant provisions of this Act: Provided, That the penalty to be imposed shall be one (1) degree higher than that provided for by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws, as the case may be.

    is there really a problem with the provision and the example of raissa? to my mind theres none. why? because we cannot commit the crime of adultery ” through and with the use of information and communications technologies xxx” but the section says ALL CRIMES… so? to answer these we must know the elements of each crime. as for adultery it must be committed by having sexual intercourse. can there be adultery without sexual intercourse? no. how about through skype? is that possible? again we refer to the definition of sexual intercourse as defined under our jurisprudence and not on any source found in the internet. it must be one where the male’s penis must have contact with the female’s vagina. so can we do it through skype? of course not. so what now? can we still commit adultery through the use of information and communications technology? of course not. so can we still be prosecuted with adultery under the RPC in relation to the cybercrime law? of course not. how about murder? homicide? parricide? if you know the elements of each crime you know will know the answer. but let me illustrate a situation where you may be held liable both for violation of the cybercrime law and a crime as defined under the RPC. Estafa. there are different ways to commit estafa. im referring to a specific mode which i will not cite anymore because im tired already. but im sure it can be an example of a crime which will not only make u liable under RPC and the cybercrime law if committed through the use of bla bla bla… i am already tired and i dont even know why i am here in the comments section but i hope you appreciate what i just said. again i would like to make it clear that i am not faulting anyone of you for lack of knowledge of the legal intricacies of the lawyer’s profession. it is not your fault. unless you’re a lawyer and you argue like a layman you absolutely do not have a place in the legal community. i wanna make it clear also that i am not a supporter of the cybercrime law as in fact i abhor the law for many reasons and some of which are even the same as those raised by raissa. good night everyone

    • raissa says:

      Of course there is no such crime yet as cyber adultery.

      Because we are still operating under the Revised Penal Code and special laws and the Family Code, etc. The Cybercrime Prevention Act is not yet in effect since it’s still under a TRO. But if it goes into effect, there will be cyber adultery.

      • RM says:

        Raissa… you know in the practice of law we do not fit things that cannot fit. There is only one way to commit adultery. that is by having sexual intercourse. i do not even have to mention that it should be committed by a married woman. for as long as there is no sexual intercourse there can be no adultery. but of course you insist that once the TRO is lifted there will be a cyber adultery. that for know it is merely suspended. i say whether or not the TRO is lifted there can never be a cyber adultery. again we cannot prosecute a person for a crime that does not exist. a crime must be defined. and the only definition we can refer to insofar as criminal prosecution is concerned is the revised penal code. the cyber crime law does not define what a cyber adultery is. i would not have a problem if it is defined there but the problem is theres none. it is not like oh theres this law and theres that law and then lets mix them and voila another law! we cannot do that. nullum crimen sine poena, nulla poena sine lege – there is no crime without a penalty and there is no penalty without a law. but of course you insist again that all crimes in the rpc can be committed through the use of information technology etc by virtue of that all encompassing provision. but Raissa the fact that it mentions ALL CRIMES does not mean that we ignore the elements of each crimes as defined in the RPC and in the decided cases. that we just focus instead on the cybercrime law. that is not a correct interpretation. i say that if the elements of a crime as defined under the RPC is SUCH THAT it cannot be made applicable to a certain law then we simply do not have to apply that. otherwise stated there has to be that logic in the relating the commission of a crime with the use of information technology etc. maledicta est expositio quae corrumpit textum – it is dangerous construction which is against the text.

        otherwise stated, for you to be liable both under the cybercrime law and the crime of adultery as defined in the RPC, the use of information technology etc. must be such that it is indispensable in the commission of the crime. alright let me give you an scenario… say A and B are married. B the wife went to the house of her neighbor C, a man. both engaged in sexual intercourse in the past without the knowledge of A the legal husband. now say for instance C, the man took out his iphone 5 and inserted it in the vagina of B then had the vibration turned on and the latter was shaking and screaming at the top of her lungs saying deeper! deeper! A the husband heard it and recognized her wife’s voice. so he went to the apartment of C to see for himself what was happening and boom. they were caught in the act of doing the deed. so A decided to file a criminal action. Question: what crime may B and C be held liable for, if any? the answer is of course is adultery. not cyber adultery but adultery. the fact that C inserted his iphone inside the vagina of B does not make the cybercrime law applicable because carnal knowledge or sexual intercourse is also defined by jurisprudence as the act a person inserting his penis or any other object in the vagina of a woman. Ratio legis est anima legis – the reason of the law is its soul. consequently, when the cybercrime law mentions electronics or computer devices in relation to the commission of another crime we do not apply everything literally. if it is inapplicable then we do not apply it. Finally, there is this last principle i want you to memorize by heart, and this is helpful in reading other laws too – hoc quidem perquam durum est, sed ita lex scripta est – it is exceedingly hard but so the law is written. peace.

        PS i myself want to have that law declared null and void too. i also raise fears on that provision too and for that reason it must be stricken down or declared unconstitutional. just so you know we’re on the same page. =)

        • raissa says:

          You are going by the current legal definition of the word “sexual intercourse”. What if this definition changes due to technology?

          • raissa says:

            You are looking at the law from the prism of today and yesterday.

            I am looking at the law from what could happen in the future when the definition of “adultery” or “sexual intercourse” could change.

            Recall that the definition of rape changed dramatically in our law. Penetration is no longer required to establish rape.

            By the way, I’m curious as to your take on the fact that if – as you say – there is no cyber adultery – why is it included in this law?

            • RM says:

              i tried to locate for the term. i could not find it. what section are you specifically referring to? if you are referring again to sec. 6 then i do not think i can make any further explanation. that already involves the study of basic criminal law principles. fact is, the law did not enumerate which crime will it be applicable under the rpc it would be too burdensome. the law rather assumed that it can be applied only to a crime where it is essential to the consummation of the crime defined under the rpc. if it is not essential in order to consummate the crime then it is not applicable. if there exists what call as cyber adultery does that mean that there is also cyber murder? cyber homicide? cyber serious physical injuries? does that automatically make a computer a deadly weapon? the corpus delicti in the crime? that if u throw a computer to a person and the person died what? you are now guilty of cyber murder? how about if you are texting while driving then you hit a person and the person died. what? cyber reckless imprudence resulting in homicide? i did not know that this is how deadly the law is.

              • raissa says:

                You said –

                “fact is, the law did not enumerate which crime will it be applicable under the rpc it would be too burdensome. the law rather assumed that it can be applied only to a crime where it is essential to the consummation of the crime defined under the rpc. it would be too burdensome. the law rather assumed that it can be applied only to a crime where it is essential to the consummation of the crime defined under the rpc”

                And you accept that just like that?

                That, I believe, is one of the major weaknesses of the law.

                You’re saying – “it would be too burdensome..”

                To whom?

                To lawmakers whom we are paying just to make laws?

                Because of this wholesale cramming of this law, it will become burdensome to the Filipino citizen. I will write a separate post explaining why.

      • leona says:

        @RM…you said, quote – ‘ i am already tired and i dont even know why i am here in the comments section xxx.’

        How do we know that what you really commented here is true or correct, when you admit that you don’t even know why you came here? Does it include also ‘how surprised are you, you found this place?’ Like saying to the judge “Judge, I don’t know why and how I’m here! ” Judge: Huh? What are you doing here then?” You: Judge, I don’t really know!” Judge: Sytankyo! Call next Case! You have permission to syleave – ‘Pre!” …joke only. Relax.

        Take Raissa’s reply. It will come true [maybe]. Nothing is impossible in ‘sylawing.’ Believe me, you know there is even in law an ‘impossible crime’! Everything is possible in law! Many here and out there will be charged & 50% convicted under sybercrime law even if syainnocent by syprosecs & syajudges! Na saan na si MRP aka RPM?

        • vander anievas says:

          everything is possible in the PHL. pinoys are so creative. ginawa ngang fertilizer and tubig!…

        • moonie says:

          many times, I think, RM was quoting, quoting, quoting from a book. endlessly. many times too, I wonder, if he can give summary. or think laterally. we are the people, we make common law.

          the problem with law is that it has to play catch up with modern terms and technology. it look for precedents in the past. but we are not about precedents here, we are about to break into newer grounds. and I think, law is afraid, it is on unprecedented ground, and might just find itself lacking. playing catch-up.

      • Rene-Ipil says:

        RM @29 & Raissa @ 29.1

        With due respect, I beg to disagree your honors. I believe there is now a crime of cyber adultery as provided in article 333 of the Revised Penal Code (RPC) and section 6 of RA 10175, known as the Cybercrime Law (CCL). While the crime of cyber adultery has been existing already, a TRO was issued to suspend its enforcement up to February 5, 2013. The problem lies on the failure of the lawmakers to qualify adultery and designate a specific name or nomenclature for a crime which subsumes the elements of adultery and adopted another element concerning computer use.

        For example, the crime designated by the RPC as theft becomes qualified theft when the theft is committed with grave abuse of confidence, or by domestic servants, among six qualifications, and is added to the basic elements of taking personal property of another, etc. In the advent of CCL, the use of computer in theft makes the crime a qualified theft. While qualified theft is penalized two degrees higher than (simple) theft, cyber theft is penalized only one degree higher.

        In CCL adultery has been qualified only by the use of computer. So it could rightly be called cyber adultery instead of qualified adultery for clarity. While qualified theft gets a penalty two degrees higher, “qualified” adultery gets one degree higher penalty.

        So, let’s get real. Cyber adultery or qualified adultery stares us on the face. But it cannot hit us because the Supreme Court hog tied it.

        I also wish that, as much as possible, the lawyers among the CPMers would comment in such manner that non-lawyers would understand. So, with due respect to RM, I hope that the lawyers in CPM would write like a layman. I understand it would not be very difficult. One way is to avoid legal maxims in latin. Theoretically, the only difference between a layman and a lawyer is not on the knowledge about basic laws. Remember that ignorance of the law excuses no one. They differ only on knowledge about procedural laws, i.e., criminal and civil procedures, etc.. Even non-trial lawyers are having difficulty in understanding, much less explaining, pertinent procedures in law.

        • raissa says:

          Very interesting explanation, you have.

        • RM says:

          i still cannot understand how on earth can you commit the act of sexual intercourse which is the constitutive element of the crimes of adultery with the use of computers. u may say that the definition of a sexual intercourse changes over time. but no. unless it is otherwise explicitly defined by a law then we have to abide by the definition laid down by the supreme court. and that is penetration of the penis to the vagina. no more no less. cybercrime law did not define sexual intercourse in relation to adultery. in fact it is not even a law which concerns adultery. i am talking about a crime as defined under the RPC for purposes of criminal prosecution. you go to court ask the judge hey judge this man right here is accused of cyber adultery. good luck with that.

          the problem is we do not study how the law is to be understood. in fact we do not study the law at all. we tend to define terms on our own because that is how we understood it. that is not how we do it in practice. courts do not listen to our opinions. it is weightless. in fact it is inadmissible in evidence except in certain cases. where the law does not define it we do not define it. we do not make assumptions. we do not make conjectures. we do not make conclusions based on incompetent understanding. but that is okay. i forgot this is a blog. so you can basically discuss and debate about practically anything under the sun. supplying suppositions assumptions or definitions that are neither based on law nor reason. these is your arena. this is the court of public opinion and to that i concede. thank you for all the response. good bye.

          • raissa says:

            I’ll explain the new technology of how – in a separate post :)

          • Baltazar says:

            Let’s see what Raissa is keeping in store for us.
            @rm, a big appreciation to what you have shared.I have read every bit of it though I sometimes get disturbed by the all-lowercase letters – Peace! But just like what @parekoy said, try laymanning the terms ;-) .

          • Rene-Ipil says:

            RM@ 29.1 January 13, 2013, 3:00PM

            Here is a blow by blow account of how a computer is used in committing the crime of adultery. It is not how you do the act of sexual intercourse using computer akin to a condom or oil or lotion. It is about how without the use of computer, the married woman would not be able to meet the man who does not know that she is married. Without the same meeting of course, there would be no sexual intercourse or penetration of the said man’s organ to the said woman’s organ.

            Here is how it goes. Mar and Rena have not met each other in person before. A common friend provided Mar with the cell phone number of Rena who is looking for a lover. Mar lives in a place which only means of communication is via cell phone and internet. Mar and Rena became pals via cell phone, email and Skype. Later on they decided to meet at Boracay. Mar paid airline ticket online and got e-ticket for both. Mar also made online reservation in a resort in Boracay. Using google maps, Mar and Rena pinpointed the place where they would meet in Boracay. In the Boracay resort, Mar met Rena and made payments using his credit card. They entered their room using an e-card. And they engaged in SSS – safe and satisfying sex.

            Without the computer or information technology, do you think Mar and Rena could have indulged themselves into SSS?

            • raissa says:

              I like the new meaning of “SSS”.

            • baycas says:

              @Rene-Ipil,

              Still, factum probans for adultery (under the RPC).

            • RM says:

              let me help you out brother… i assume you are a devoted law student… thats very good… but i am very sure that you have not reached your 3rd year yet in law school. i can very well say that because in the facts that you have given you have equated those circumstances as indispensable in the commission of the crime of adultery. if that is the facts that you have given me, and i am the lawyer, heck i do not even have to present a witness who will testify directly that he saw the act. what i will do instead is to offer those pieces of evidence in court namely: (assuming of course that it is admissible in evidence) (1) cellphone conversations, (2) internet records, (3) the airline e-ticket, the google maps? naaah irrelevent… (4) the receipt of the payments using the credit card, (5) e-card…

              wowwww…….. with all the pieces of evidence like that tsk only the dumbest lawyer can lose that case. but here is the question bro… as for the crime of adultery, what is the fact to be proved? the factum probandum? okay in layman’s terms what do we need to establish or prove so that one can be made liable for the crime of adultery? if you still recall your study in criminal law, a first year subject constituting 4 units, that is if you really are a law student, there is this thing we call the “elements” of a crime. what do you mean elements you might ask. why should i be concerned about the elements of a crime? bro, elements of a crime consist of facts that you need to establish with so that when ALL the elements of a crime are PRESENT then… you can say this accused is liable for such crime. are my words too technical here? am i being too legalese? okay, otherwise stated, if one OR some OR all of the elements of a crime are not present, then it is time for you to pack up your things and leave the court because you have no case.

              do you still follow me? okay, now that you understand (i hope) the concept of how a crime is proved in court we now go to a specific example. adultery. accordingly, the elements of adultery are the ff: (1) that the woman is married; (2) that she has sexual intercourse with a man not her husband; (3) that as regards the man with whom she has sexual intercourse, he must know her to be married. the 3rd element applies to men only. meaning, he will only be liable for the crime of adultery if he had knowledge that the woman is married. for all we know the man is seriously in love with the woman except that he does not know that she is married. kawawa naman xa. anyway, it goes without saying, that the only facts that we need to prove so that a woman can be held liable for the crime of adultery are nos. 1 and 2. as for the first element there is no problem if you can present the marriage certificate or contract in the court. they are the best evidence to prove the fact of marriage. but how about the second element? if you can present a witness in court who can testify that he personally saw Mar and Rena having sex, your problem is solved. and the judge will even thank you because you help lessen his work. all the elements are now established and are sufficient to support the conviction of Rena for the crime of adultery.

              But what if you do not have a witness who can testify as to the sexual intercourse? remember that this kind of evidence, under the rules which i am sure you are not familiar with, is called DIRECT EVIDENCE because it directly proves the facts that need to be proved to win a case. it goes without saying that if you do not have the witness mentioned above then you do not have any direct evidence to prove the crime.

              still following? now, since we do not have a direct evidence, are we now hopeless??? of course not. a good lawyer will not give up and abandon the case. a good lawyer will think of other ways to win a case. one of which is by proving the fact that needs to be proved through what we call CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. as to weight, it is weaker than the direct evidence. direct evidence is heavier and stronger than circumstantial evidence. from the word itself it refers to circumstances. what do we do with these circumstances? think of them like pieces of a puzzle. you need to pick up the pieces of the puzzle so as to see the picture. what picture? this picture must be something that will tell you that indeed a crime has been committed and that the accused is probably guilty of the crime.

              bored already? dont worry ill wind up. so what is an example of a circumstantial evidence? the following can be is the best example. and this i quote from you:

              “Mar and Rena have not met each other in person before. A common friend provided Mar with the cell phone number of Rena who is looking for a lover. Mar lives in a place which only means of communication is via cell phone and internet. Mar and Rena became pals via cell phone, email and Skype. Later on they decided to meet at Boracay. Mar paid airline ticket online and got e-ticket for both. Mar also made online reservation in a resort in Boracay. Using google maps, Mar and Rena pinpointed the place where they would meet in Boracay. In the Boracay resort, Mar met Rena and made payments using his credit card. They entered their room using an e-card.”

              with the first element and the second element established can she now be convicted of the crime of adultery? the answer is yes. where is your cybercrime law there? oh but you might say hey those e tickets and e cards the skype etc. without them you cannot prove adultery! therefore adultery is committed with the use of those stuff therefore they are indispensable to the crime hence penalized under the cyber crime law!!! therefore i am right and you are wrong! well bro, isn’t that what you have been trying to point out in your earlier posts?

              i am so disappointed. you have grossly misunderstood the law. let me ask you again. are those things indispensable for the commission of the crime as defined under the RPC? are those things indispensable in PROVING the commission of the crime under the facts you gave?

              as to the first question, refer to the elements of a crime. consult your RPC. as to the second question, recall our lesson earlier regarding circumstantial evidence.

              Conclusion: do not confuse the factum probandum with the factum probans. also do not confuse proof and evidence. proof is the effect of evidence. meaning without evidence, there is no proof. my, friend you need to enroll yourself in law school because you seem to be too much interested with this profession. i can see a bright future in you. you are full of idealisms. hold on to it. see you in court. =)

              • raissa says:

                I have answered you in a new post

              • Alan says:

                How fortunate we are to be graced by the presence of the Lord of Justice himself. I wonder how many ambulances he chases

              • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

                No wonder the Philippine Law cannot be understood by laymen compared to AMerican law because they still speak in tongue.

              • Parekoy says:

                @RM

                I’m grateful with your lecture. I’m convinced that indeed you are a Filipino Lawyer, with your pompousity and condescending manner (DIRECT EVIDENCE? Please correct me sir.) and very good presentation of facts and hypotheticals, you pricked the litigious part of my brain.

                @CPM

                Lawyering is a different kind of animal, behaviour sometimes are least to be desired, but it is indeed a profession looked down by many. We need them. With time, their style will be an acquired taste. Please accord him with the same respect as we do to some nutcases here. I can see how vital it is have visiting professors in their field of some expertise. I appreciate the diversity this site welcomes and I bet that this is healthy.

                @RM

                Sir, I’m looking forward to your series of interesting lectures! Again, thank you for trying to illuminate the nuances, we will digest and might have further clarifications too.

              • tristanism says:

                Why do I get this feeling that you’re talking down to a lot of people here?

                Is it because you actually are talking down to a lot of people here?

                Not sexy, dude.

                I do enjoy reading your comments, though.

              • Joe America says:

                “factum probandum”, ahahahahahaha. It sounds like a guy’s sex organ at work. I believe baycas is keeping a count of applications.

                I tell you, this CPM crowd has gone up-intellectual on us. I fully expect Father Bernas to join the next debate on the Church. It’s all Mariano’s fault, always demanding more . . .

              • Parekoy says:

                @joe

                I believe that Pacifico’s (the special kid, not the lucid) presence virtually uplifted individual standard without us doing anything. He lowers the mean that suddenly everybody notches up. But, I will not give him credit for myself doing more. I give the credit to raissa for posting topics that pricks our interests and being passive to give everybody the opportunity to shine.

              • Rene-Ipil says:

                RM@29.1 January 16, 2013 11:42PM

                With due respect, it seems that we are arguing on two different but related cases. Yours is a case of (simple) adultery while mine is qualified adultery – adultery with the use of information technology (IT). Your case does not include the use of IT as a fact-in-issue or what you term as factum probandum in Latin. I understand that the use of IT is not merely a fact proving a certain allegation, i.e., that the cell phone number of Rena was given to Mar by his friend. The use of IT in my case must be proved to secure conviction for qualified adultery because it is a fact-in-issue, that is, the sexual intercourse could not have been consummated without the use of IT. BTW I forgot to allege that Mar was a “virgin” and could not distinguish the genital from the anus. So he got the picture of a naked woman focused on that genital area in his iPad which he positioned in his front to properly guide him while consummating the sexual intercourse and having SSS. Reminder: my story about Mar and Rena is purely fiction but in the realm of possibility.

                Thank you for your advice that I should enroll in a law school. But I think no reputable law school will enroll me.

              • pinay710 says:

                @sir RM, maraming salamat po. nadagdagan na naman ang kaalaman ko.

          • moonie says:

            I think law listens intently to opinions, contrary to what RM said. that’s why they ask the presence of experts like doctor, nurses, forensic pathologists, etc. in the courts of law, and ask for their opinions. I have friends who have provided expert opinions in court, and believe me, those opinions matter a lot. opinions even sink and discredit a witness.

            • Gene Simmowns says:

              OT: I have learned a lot of things from the exchanges. Keep it coming please. :)

              B TW, naglie low ata si Marianito?

            • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

              FORENSIC PATHOLOGISTS? What have you been reading all these years ? New YOrk Times? Boston Globe? Der Speigel? la Parisiene ?

              This is the Philippines we are talking about. FOREINSIC PATHOLOGIST IS SOOOOO FOREIGN TO THESE PEOPLE.

              Go ahead ask Alan and Raissa if they ever covered murdered news that used FORENSIC PATHOLOGISTS.

              • raissa says:

                Yes

              • Parekoy says:

                @Pacifico

                If you are not absolutely sure that the answer will not be to your benefit to prove you are correct, don’t ask the question.

                Usual mistakes of neophyte trial lawyers. If you are one, then charge this to experience and be thankful that it is not inside the courtroom.

                Lick your wounds, suck it up, sleep, and wake up a learned man.

                Syet…that reminds me…need a nap, be wiser!

              • moonie says:

                isn’t dr rachel fortun our country’s current forensic pathologist? her expert opinion shot down the atimonan ‘shoot out’. she’s also involved in the ampatuan massacre case.

    • Parekoy says:

      @RM

      Wow! This is a pro bono opinion!

      I agree that we need more lawyers here, those who can translate legalese into layman’s term.

      With the lure of that biblical salacious sin, Adultery, this site becomes even more stronger. If it may not be asking too much from you, can you please disect the implications and complications of the cyber libel provisions?

      Thanks RM!

      • RM says:

        the libel provision is a surplusage in the statute. it is not needed. it is already defined under the RPC. under art. 355 of our RPC, a libel may be committed by means of writing, printing, lithography, engraving, radio, phonograph, painting, theatrical exhibition, cinematographic exhibition, or ANY SIMILAR MEANS xxx. when the code was drafted there was no internet yet. but it doesn’t mean that online articles cannot be considered libelous under the definition of RPC. by sheer use of logic, if it can be committed by means of or with the use of an engraving which is very hard to do then there is every reason that it can be committed with the use of internet. ex necessitate legis – by necessary implication of law.

        but if cybercrime law takes effect indeed can we prosecute a person for the crime of libel both under the cybercrime law and under the RPC? possible… because the cybercrime law says without prejudice to the criminal liability under the RPC. it is like bribery. a single act by a public officer accused of bribery under art. 210 of our revised penal code may also be charged with violation of RA 3019 violation of anti graft and corrupt practices act. he may also be held liable for the crime of plunder and anti money laundering act as well as obstruction of justice if the circumstances warrant. so thats the danger there.

        • moonie says:

          thank you, RM, I believe this is your opinion? and may even be subject to another lawyer’s opinion?

    • Rolly says:

      We can learn many things from @RM, hope the visit would come in regular interval.

      We have to remember that the discussions, arguments and debates is hapenning online, here on a blogsite…not on a court of law. We may be non-lawyers, but we have general perceptions of what law is about…it affects our daily lives, therefore discourses should rather be encouraged instead.

      Our brilliant lawyers around can satisfactorily convinced lay people that the color red is actually green, and the green is red, depending on the time of day or the mood of the individual lawyer…the same, goes with the interpretation of the law.

      • moonie says:

        rolly, please let us not forget that there are deviants around. there are people who are color blind and live among us, and can give us the most trouble. we have to have an open mind. we can question a lawyer, although valued, his/her opinion may differ from another lawyer. their judgement can be revoked that’s why we have courts of appeal. let us not be overly awed by lawyers. they’re humans too, and make mistakes. often to our detriments.

  55. Yvonne says:

    I’m not a lawyer, and have no legal background, so allow me to ask these questions in the hope that some of our CPMers, or better yet Assistant Secretary Sy, might be able to provide some clarity:

    1. Is the proposed crime of cyber adultery a crime against an individual, or a crime against the people? Who will prosecute? Under this proposed law would a spouse be compelled to testify against the erring spouse?

    2. Is cyber sex between a married person and a lover who is not his/her spouse an act of cyber adultery, or is carnal knowledge (or penetration, with apologies to @ baycas) a necessary element for cyber adultery to occur?

    3. Consider a hypothetical situation where a married woman (or man) committed cyber adultery but her spouse, in an attempt at marital reconciliation, forgave her and both even seek counseling but things still did not work out. Can the married woman be still charged with cyber adultery, or is the crime extinguished by virtue of the forgiveness by the offended spouse?

    4. Now, consider another hypothetical situation where a married OFW divorced his wife in the Philippines and started a new family overseas. His wife who is left alone caring for their children in the Philippines eventually takes on a lover out of loneliness and frustration. Assuming a computer, or a smart phone, was used in their sexual escapades, can the wife be charged of cyber adultery from the viewpoint that she is still considered to be married because divorce is not recognized in the Philippines?

    It seems to me that the proposed law on cyber adultery is too intrusive, too broad, and too vague that it should be declared unconstitutional.

    • macspeed says:

      the cyber crime law is definetely vague and shall only be used by oppurtunist and alike….

      cyber crimes requires only regulations, punihment can be just merely ban from sites.

      Real crime such as one is killed and the killer left traces on the net can be used to pin

      down the offenders or murderers ….

      • leona says:

        @macspeed…it is also vague – your explanation to @Yvonne who asked specific questions. Dagdagan natin…

        Q.1 = it is a crime against the State once the innocent spouse’s COMPLAINT is filed in court. “Pple Phil vs Guilty Spouse.” State prosecutes Star Witness Inn.Spouse who is a “willing witness” no need to compel.

        Q.2 = Acc to Cybercrime law, isang kalokohan na Batas, yan tanong mo ay cyber adultery basta may BLEEP PENETRATION! [Salamat kay @baycas] kasama CARNAL KNOWLEDGE sa bleep bleep [ dalawang crimes na yun!]. Bleeps elemento yun sa krimen.

        Q.3 = Cannot be charge anymore once FORGIVEN and forgiveness should include also the BLEEPER LOVER or ‘syota ‘o syoto.’ Maski di natuloy ang reconciliation.

        Q.4 = The OFW who became an Arab BLEEPER cannot complain against the wife if wife also BLEEPED in the Philippines due to Arab bleeping in Middle East. It is what we can call BLEEPING IN PARI DELICTO…complaining spouse must be without ANY BLEEP OFFENSE…BE ‘with clean hands.!’

        p.s. Both BLEEPERS will have bleepos-children also, Arabs and Pinoys! Nasaan si RPM? hahaha…

        • macspeed says:

          @leona, you are now as well CS Cultured Shocked he he he he

          he is probably mending his domestic problem with his wife for his cybercrime>>> to much CPM he he he he

  56. letlet says:

    Mr President, PNOY

    An open ltter to you

    Before signing any bills for laws, could you please thoroughly scrutinize them, that they are for the good of the common tao. Also, please see to it that your officials- cabinet or senators- are not using you for their own selfish ends specially in passing laws. The ruination of these people are causing you would be devastating on your Presidency. It seems our government officials are using their power of positions to extricate subtly from their personal vendetta (Sotto- plagiarism, online libel) personal vested interest and personal whims and caprices ( Assec Sy, are you contemplating affairs with single women?)

    Raissa’s blogging is very right to raise concerns that would tremendously affect the common tao as a whole. She augurs well for fairness and equality between husband and wife in terms of penalty, much better if husband received penalty one degree higher. Are married women being treated as second class citizens, which is a sex disrcrimination? We, Raissa’s bloggers/commenters, have our own intellect to dissect the facts presented by her. The chilling effect only occurs when the truthfulness of her facts are too hard to ignore, thus, has a galvanizing effect on her bloggers/commenters. I wonder if Assec Sy is trying to stifle Raissa’s ( by singling her out) argumentation of truth, as it is a subtle way of curbing free speech and expression.

    • leona says:

      hear! hear! hear! read! read! rea! Btw, ‘adultery’ as originally in 1870 Spanish Penal Code where our penal code was based, granted DIVORCE to the innocent spouse but the Code Commission was antiquated then and did not retain this grant. The link

      “7. Killing of spouse in act of adultery.
      Article 247, which is similar to Art. 425 of the old Pe
      Code as amended by Act 3195, states that: “Any legally
      ried person who, having surprised his spouse in the act of co
      mitting sexual intercourse with another person, shall kill eit
      of them in the act or immediately thereafter, or shall inf!o
      upon them any serious physical injury, shall suffer the pena
      of destierro” (banishment for 6 mos. and 1day to 6 years).
      provision of the old Code, on which Article 247 was based,
      unanimously criticized in Spain particularly during the last f
      years as being a cruel provision, indirectly authorizing the 0.
      fended spouse to take away the life of the adulterers. Aceo
      ingly, the new Spanish Penal Code, in article 5.23, merely co
      siders the act as having been executed under passion and
      fuscation as a special extenuating circumstance such that
      offended spouse will have to suffer the penalty for the offen
      committed, but lower by one degree. In the Philippines, wh
      adultery is a ground for divorce, there is added reason for sU
      pressing the antiquated and cruel provision preserved in arti
      247 above quoted. The Code Committee, which was too mode
      in punishing the impossible crime, was, perhaps, quite an
      J;uated in preserving the provision of Article 423 of the
      1n~nal Code.”

      Kaya si ass sec Sy, bata pa subalit antiquated ang isip katulad ng 1932 Commission that drafted our penal code. Suply ko ang link sunod…

    • Rolly says:

      Before becoming into a Law, a Bill is introduced to the Lower House, debated and passed after the “third reading”. The identical proposed law meantime (Senate version), is being presented, debated, and approved after the third reading.

      That House version and the Senate Bill version are smoothened and given the final touches, coordinated, reconciled and consolidated to come up with one proposed Republic Act.

      The President then (whether the likes of Miriam, Joker, Enrile, Rene Saguisag and other legal luminaries, or PNoy as he is, being not a lawyer), signed the Republic Act into Law and becomes effective after a prescribed period of time.

      Although some would put the blame to the President’s advisers, I shall attribute this particular Cybercrime Law debacle to PNoy’s lapse of judgement.

      Please visit the below link to have a better perspective to lawmaking.

      gov.ph/about/gov/the-legislative-branch/

      Please copy and paste to the address bar of your Browser.

      • Rolly says:

        To Pnoy’s credit, he doesn’t blame his staff (at least in public), he crucifies himself instead.

  57. Leun B. McQueen says:

    That CyberCrime Law was enacted in haste. It must be shot down! and maybe along with Asec Sy, hehehe

  58. leona says:

    DOJ ass sec Sy, quote, said – “So with all due respect, let’s be careful in blogging because when lay person reads it, it creates another chilling effect or whatever it’s called.”

    Bakit hindi niya, sa unahan, sinabi or sabihin ” That is precisely the point, ahead of blogging, why the senators and congressmen, rammed …PINILIT AT e-SAKSAK sa lalamunan ng mga TAO BAYAN, the cybercrime bill, para magawang Batas!”

    Kaya tayo nag karoon ng mysteryosong blogging dahil dito! Walang ma sisi-si si ass sec Sy sa atin. Siya, isa sa mga ‘mentor’ ng bill. Hindi niya rin pinag-aralan ng ma-igi. Propesor pa naman! Ganoon ba siya, parehas sa mga mam-babatas? Reckless? Hurried? Anong motibo niya ma-apura ang bill na mapasa?

    • macspeed says:

      same as doing design without checking for quality assurance, pag nagiba, sino sisisihin?

      Delete lahat ng palpak na section sa Cyber crime laws…make it simple such as warnings,

      suspension, and lectures…

  59. Anubayan! says:

    “I would be amenable to the crime of adultery being crammed into the Cybercrime Law as long as lawmakers make married men equally liable for it and – in addition – make concubinage a crime punishable one degree higher than adultery. But I probably wouldn’t trust DOJ Assec Geronimo Sy to draft the proposed legislation.”

    Our law professor told us back then that the reason why adultery has a higher penalty than concubinage is because there is a danger that an unfaithful wife will bring into the family a child who is not an offspring of her husband. This will not be the case on the part of the husband even if he had extra-marital relations with several women. “What kind of a man would want to raise a child knowing he has a different father?”, my professor asked. I know It smacks of unfairness on the part of the women but maybe the lawmakers who wrote the revised penal code are all men.

    • leona says:

      Hindi tutuo ang sabi na ang ‘adultery’ kaya mataas ang penalty kaysa ‘concubinage’ sa explakasyon quoted ni @Anubayan.

      Di ba halat at masagwa, pag ang lalaki asawa ay namatay, sa burol nya dadating ang MGA DAMING “ASAWA – kabit, kasama ang DAMING MGA ANAK! Na gulat ang tunay na asawa!

      Sa ‘adultery’ ka dalasan, minos ang sama. Sa CONCUBINAGE, sobra ang sama. Pag nag kapareho ang sama ng ‘adultery’ sa concubinage, GRABI ANG CONCUBINAGE kaysa ‘adultery.!’

      Kaya, dapat pareho ang parusa ng dalawang krimen. Walang un-sihan sa mga kaBABAE-han. Tama rin, ang CONCUBINAGE dapat 1 degree higher ng adultery ang parusa.

      • pinay710 says:

        adultery at concubinage PAREHONG MASAMA KAYA DAPAT PAREHO ANG KAPARUSAHAN. parehong gumawa ng masama sa asawa. saka bakit babae lang dapat kasama din ang lalake. ganun din ang suma totasl panloloko sa bawat isa pareho ang epekto sa mga anak at sa pagsasama. HINDI PUEDE ANG BABAE LANG.

        • macspeed says:

          at this age i have only one partner my wife, do i know if she have an affair while i am away???

          The answer is, that can be forgiven, as long as she asked for forgiveness, no need for adultery case if she want a new chance that can be arranged, that is how the human should do, everyone made mistakes he he he

          hence cybercrime law is not applicable, kakatawa at kakainis kung maging Law pa yan, sayang pera at panahon…

    • Baltazar says:

      This topic has really prompted me to have a discussion with my two Singaporean Muslim colleagues – a male and a female – regarding what Sharia law says about adultery/concubinage.. Is Sharia Law being applied in the Filipino Muslim community? (Zamera & macspeed could probably answer this.) If it is, how does it align with the Philippine civil law that only allows one marriage? I am throwing up this question in the air because the Sharia -acceptable marriage of up to four times for a man is basically concubinage in our civil law.

      • raissa says:

        True.

      • macspeed says:

        @Baltazar: Yes Sharia Law is applied in Phiippines to Muslim only.

        Marrying up to 4 is only an Option in Al Qur-an.

        Chapter (SURA) 4. AN-NISA (WOMEN)

        1. O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single
        soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a
        multitude of men and women. Be careful of your duty toward Allah in Whom ye
        claim [your rights] of one another, and toward the wombs [that bare you]. Lo!
        Allah hath been a watcher over you.
        2. Give unto orphans their wealth. Exchange not the good for the bad [in your
        management thereof] nor absorb their wealth into your own wealth. Lo! that would
        be a great sin.
        3. And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the
        women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot
        do justice [to so many] then one [only] or [the captives] that your right hands
        possess. Thus it is more likely that ye will not do injustice.
        4. And give unto the women [whom ye marry] free gift of their marriage portions;
        but if they of their own accord remit unto you a part thereof, then ye are
        welcome to absorb it [in your wealth].

        For Adultery, it is not punishable by Death:

        SURA 24. AN-NOOR (THE LIGHT)
        1. [Here is] a surah which We have revealed and enjoined, and wherein We have
        revealed plain tokens, that haply ye may take heed.
        2. The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them [with] a
        hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to
        Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers
        witness their punishment.

        That is the Basic teaching of Islam.

        For me, when a woman ask for 2nd chance, it should be given, love is lovlier the secnd time around he he he

        • Baltazar says:

          @macspeed
          Let’s not get off-track. How about the legality? In Singapore, when it comes to a crime, a Muslim has the right to choose to be under/prosecuted Sharia law and they have a constitutional provision for that. But according to my colleagues, most Muslim would not choose to be prosecuted under Sharia law because the penalties are so severe (ie . you steal, they’ll cut your hand). But when it comes to marriage, they have a separate government registry for Muslim marriages where multiple marriage registration is allowed. Do we have the same facility in the Philippines? Or is there a constitutional provision for the same? Otherwise, it boils down to my argument ..that it is a concubinage.

          • macspeed says:

            @baltazar one of the 3kings he he he

            if the christian country is permitting sharia law, the muslim may select a lighter law which is not sharia law he he he

            but if one did like ampatuans, the main goventment which is not sharia law cannot agree to the shifting from government law to sharia law he he he

            murderers cannot scape whereso ever law he he he

          • leona says:

            Sharia Law Philippines is not the same Sharia Law Singapore or other such Laws of countries. No cutting of hands for stealing, or cutting of heads or stoning, etc. No.

            Btw, @macspeed…pag may 5th marriage, is that governed by Sharia law? Or Sharingmore Law? Adultery pag 5th marriage in the Philippines?

  60. fed_up says:

    Hi CPMers, let’s have a joke to chase away the heat of irritation generated by a passing “asteroid”.

    Subject: Who’s In Charge Here?

    All the organs of the body were having a meeting, trying to decide who should be the one in charge.

    “I should be in charge,” said the brain, “Because I run all the body’s systems, so without me nothing would happen.”

    “I should be in charge,” said the blood, “Because I circulate oxygen all over so without me you’d all waste away.”

    “I should be in charge,” said the stomach,” Because I process food and give all of you energy.”

    “I should be in charge,” said the legs, “because I carry the body wherever it needs to go.”

    “I should be in charge,” said the eyes, “Because I allow the body to see where it goes.”

    “I should be in charge,” said the rectum, “Because I’m responsible for waste removal.”

    All the other body parts laughed at the rectum and insulted him, so in a huff, he shut down tight.

    Within a few days, the brain had a terrible headache, the stomach was bloated, the legs got wobbly, the eyes got watery, and the blood was toxic. They all decided that the rectum should be the boss.

    The Moral of the story?

    The asshole is usually in charge.

    P.S.
    With so many posts here by the “asteroid” disallowing senior citizen CPMers like me to concentrate, I think he’s the one in charge here.

    • Baltazar says:

      @fed_up
      Raissa, being the owner of the site is in charge and here’s the site’s comment policy. What makes a cake truly delectable is not just the base cake itself but also the icing. Some people who get a piece of the cake will get a slice together with the icing but have to throw the latter later. CPM atmosphere is just like that. Sometimes, you have to filter the comments on your own. That will also reduce the load on Raissa. CPM – being modeled after the Plaza Miranda in the heyday of Marcos power must also uphold democracy ; that is people speak, some listen . Hence it welcomes passers-b y who will virtually fecalize or urinate on one corner of the plaza – Pinoy eh! Sabi nga ni Joe-Am, well dressed pa rin naman ang iba.
      Pagbati po mula sa Singapore.

    • Parekoy says:

      As I said previously in other threads, a gross variant of this is:

      Treat every idea here like food, absorb all the nutrients, expel the waste, and you get a relief.

      I believe in free speech and I would fight for the right or priviledge of anyone here to make a fool of himself/herself/gayself!

    • leona says:

      Kasayahan ang atin patitipon dito. Salo-salo ang bigayan sa sulat natin. Mabasa natin para mag-saya sa kwentuhan. Wag sana dumami ang “I think he’s the one in charge here.” Pag dumani, mawawala ang kasayahan. Oo nga may ‘pridom’ sumulat kung ano mang ang gusto nya. Kung ang sinulat ay nakaka sira sa saya sa isa, dalawa ‘o tatlo dito, yan ay senyas may dating na puputol ng atin kasayahan. Pag nag tatlo ‘o apat o’ sampu na ang “in charge” ano ang kasayahan dito? ‘Di na ‘pridom’ yan! Ibang gawa-in ang dating…sila lang ang sasaya, hindi na lahat tayo ‘o karamihan dito! ‘Di na CPM ito kundi
      RPM…rapido puro M…Wag sana tayo sige ng basa ng RPM…’di natin ma-iwasan sa loob nitong ‘spasyo’ dito at nakaka kausa ng sayang ang horas skrolling baba at taas! Walang hugas! Ang pridom may limitasyon sa lahat ng gawa. Walang lang sobra…ito lamang ang paki-usap.

    • macspeed says:

      to CPM…

      Pardon us for some transgreesion, especially if we insulted people he he he such words of my co cultured shocked MRP: here is why:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_shock

      Culture shock

      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Jump to: navigation, search

      For uses of Culture Shock as a proper noun, see Culture shock (disambiguation).

      Culture shock is the personal disorientation a person may feel when experiencing an unfamiliar way of life due to immigration or a visit to a new country, or to a move between social environments, also a simple travel to another type of life.[1]

      Enthusiastic welcome offered to the first Indian student to arrive in Dresden, East Germany (1951)
      One of the most common causes of culture shock involves individuals in a foreign environment. Culture shock can be described as consisting of at least one of four distinct phases: Honeymoon, Negotiation, Adjustment, and Mastery, are the most common attributes that pertain to existing problems, further hindrances include: information overload, language barrier, generation gap, technology gap, skill interdependence, formulation dependency, homesickness (cultural), infinite regress (homesickness), boredom (job dependency), response ability (cultural skill set). [2] There is no true way to entirely prevent culture shock, as individuals in any society are personally affected by cultural contrasts differently.[3]

      he he he he

      • Baltazar says:

        @macspeed
        I always love analogy. In the olden days (even up to now, I believe) , softdrinks promos would ask you to check the bottle crowns (tansan) for prizes by removing the inner seal and presto, a prize printed at the inner side of the crown will be revealed. In those days, I had redeemed so many softdrinks (Contents Only is also printed).. Now I have highlighted the word redeemed – which means new (sort of)..so I really hope CPM has new macspeed now(?)

  61. joedelacruise says:

    Dear everyone….and Madame Raissa. Good day to one and all.
    Although I am a habitual reader of this blog, I don’t normally post comments. Whatever my views are on any given topic, I always defer to the wisdom of the more educated, and therefore more knowledgeable, commenters on this site.

    On this current topic, I wish to agree, if I may, with the views expressed by Assistant Secretary Geronimo Sy in response to Madame Raissa’s hypothetical question,

    “To use my previous example of the case of the woman accused of adultery, because of Section 6, if a married woman’s e-mail to her lover were submitted as evidence, her penalty if convicted automatically becomes one degree higher”.

    Adultery is the physical act or crime the woman is being accused of; while e-mail is the evidence or the cyber component being submitted as proof of the act. Her conviction, and penalty, will be on the physical act of adultery which she is accused of. The evidence, e-mail, if presented, might or might not be taken into consideration by the court, but it will not make the physical crime a cyber crime. One can be accused/convicted/penalized OF a crime (adultery, in this example) but can not be accused OF evidence (email).

    Cyber adultery is not specifically mentioned in the Cybercrime Law nor in the submitted petitions lodged with the Supreme Court… but I’ll check again. As I said, I will always submit and bow to the more educated/knowledgeable commenters.

    Thank you all.

    • raissa says:

      Adultery is in Section 6 of the Cybercrime Prevention Act.

      Thanks for commenting.

    • Rene-Ipil says:

      Joedlc@21

      First thing first. What is the crime charged in the information filed with the court? If it was cyber adultery, the information must allege that adultery was committed with the use of computer as an element of the crime. Otherwise the case of cyber adultery would be dismissed or amended because the facts charged do not constitute the offense of cyber adultery.

      If the crime charged was (simple) adultery, there would be no need to allege the use of computer because it is not an element of the crime of (simple) adultery. Introduction of email as evidence in (simple) adultery case would only be considered an aggravating circumstance. The email may not be proved at all for conviction in (simple) adultery. On the other hand, the email must be proved in the case of cyber adultery to secure conviction.

    • leona says:

      @joedelacruise…ang adultery sa ‘e-mail’ ‘o cyberspace ay hindi ‘evidence.’ Yan ay isang krimen sa ilalim ng Cybercrime law, kaya tataas ang imprisonment. Si ass sec Sy baliktad ang basa ‘o pag ka-intindi ng sariling ‘draft’ ng naging Batas!

      Ulit…hindi ‘evidence’ lang kundi KRIMEN with increases of the penalty! Walang sinabi itong Batas na ang ‘evidence’ ay makaka pag-taas ng ‘penalty’ kundi ang sinabi ay ‘pag ang krimen – halimbawa – adultery, ay pina-raan sa cyberspace ‘o ‘e-mail,’ TAAS ANG PENALTY dito!

      Ka lito si ass sec Sy dito. Bakit? Hindi nya pina-aralan ng mabuti ang implikasyon ng draft nya! Apurado siya! Walang ma-igi ng aral at konlsulta sa mamayan ang Batas nito.

      Sobra si PNoy, pinimahan pa walang aral ang ‘Legal Staff’ nya rin! Kaya PUTOK na KAMATIS itong Batas nito.

      • macspeed says:

        terminate this guy from the Government services, or perhaps terminate this Gay he he he, bakit galit sya sa mga adulteress???

      • moonie says:

        I’m laughing so hard, I nearly fell of my chair. I think, ass sec sy needs more zinc in his diet, his brain is not functioning properly. his neurons and synaptic relays are not firing as well as they ought to. the prez probably did not fully understand what he was signing, he has no legal training. his legal staff? nilaglag yata nila and presidente.

  62. moonie says:

    hi, joe america at 17. loved your comment. young men though are nearly as obstinate as old men. they’re impatient too ,and behaved like the world owe them a living. they raged often and many are undisciplined, spoiled brats and loudmouths with barely respect for authority. seen the way they dressed? they have their own language too, not understandable to many.

    • Joe America says:

      Yes, I should eliminate the age distinction and simply mention those who are too rigid, impatient or full of themselves to learn. Thanks.

    • leona says:

      @moonie…pag ang RPM kasama sa CPM, ang matigas, walang pasenya at puno ng kagustuhan mag aral, sino kaya…’RPM’ ‘o CPM?

      • macspeed says:

        @leona, please understand RPM he he he Cultured shock like me he he he siguro sa akin mga limang bulate na lang pipirma wasak na sanity ko.

        Kay MRP, he is being healed here, pero madami yata nahahawa sa kanya he he he in turn culture shock waves he he he i just notice on some comments

      • moonie says:

        hi, leona. diversity, babe, is giving me headache. rpms can grow, they can become assets – with time. I started an rpm, brash and unpolished, more like hilong talilong, but then, I got influenced by the likes of you, johnny lin, joe america, baycas and the rest. raisa writes fine articles, she’s not like some ‘helicopter’ bloggers that only hover and couldn’t quite land, write from a distance, and didn’t get to know their subject well.

        I cannot help but be moved by the passion and tenacity shown by you people. we may disagree, but I think, we are family now. for better or for worse.

  63. moonie says:

    adultery between consenting adults, that’s their business. problem is adultery has many collateral damages. it destroys trust, family relationship, ruined lives too. why can’t adults finish one relation before starting another?

    my friends says it’s because we filipinos have high libidos, we over-medicate ourselves with zinc daw gotten from fish that we eat almost everyday. also from oysters (talaba?) pusit, sugpo, pugita, seafoods kasi is part of our basic diet. and seafood is high in zinc, which is responsible for normal brain functioning and also for sperm production. zinc helps make our men virile, women fertile, one sexual encounter at buntis kaagad. even our teenagers barely into puberty suddenly find themselves new parents. they did not see it coming. ops, I’m waffling.

    cyber adultery will soon be reason to file for divorce, maybe annulment too. it might even be mentioned in prenups as mitigating factor to end a marriage.

    • leona says:

      Wag natin sisihin ang mga Babae sa adultery kasama mga Lalaki, ‘o Lalaki sa concubinage. Tao lamang sila at tayo. Sisihin and mga lawmerriers natin ang hindi PANTAY NA BATAS, sa Revised Penal Code at Cybercrime law.

      Walang APURAHAN NA BATAS! Parang sila gusto lahat pumunta sa kasilyas umihin ‘o t…e.

  64. pinay710 says:

    hindi na nga ako makapag concentrate sa pagbasa sa mga komento na may maiiwan sa akin ng kaalam dahil sa susunod na komento puro panghihiya, pagmamarunong at pagsesermon sa mga Pilipino ang nababasa ko. gusto ko pa naman sanang matuto ng mga bagay na hindi ko natutunan noong nagaaral ako at dito lang sa blog ni raissa ako natutuo kaso nakakaiinis ang mga komento ng isang SIRA ang ulo dito. puro sya na lang ang magaling, panay paninira sa kapwa ang sinasabi. sanay tumigil na sya. hindi ko naman malampasan kasi nasa pagitan ng mga komentong pangkaisipna tapos bigla kokomento naman ng puro pagaalipusta sa kapwa. NAKAKAINIS!

    • pelang says:

      that’s true @pinay710. it was more fun at raissa’s blog before MR came along.

      • erwin says:

        @ pelang,

        It’s really true that it was more fun at raissa’s blog before though there were some trolls at least they have superior conscience and education for not doing or writing silly comments…… di ba?

    • baycas says:

      Please trust me, @pinay710, this blog is more fun now than ever before…

      Simply because it is funnier with comic character/s around.

      Please do stick around, you are needed here.

  65. Joe America says:

    I suppose this dilemma on cyber-adultery shows what is wrong with the Cybercrime Law from the getgo. It tries to take a completely new form of expression, social media being the form, and fit it into laws designed for person to person communication. Social dialogue is a completely new animal, founded on the essential notion of free and open communication, no matter the content within the form.

    You have old men who try to control interpersonal communications now trying to control a completely unrestrained medium. Old laws don’t work. And old men who appear long past the age of intellectual flexibility make the laws. They no longer fit, either.

    • Parekoy says:

      Hear, hear!

    • Enting says:

      You get it right.

    • raissa says:

      You are right on the money, Joe.

      Digital guru Nicholas Negroponte calls them “the digital homeless”, Alan told me.

      However, in the case of DOJ Assec Geronimo Sy, he is not old but young.

      I think the trouble is that he has blinders – like those of a carriage horse – that only allows him to have a narrow perspective of the issue. He only sees the Cybercrime Law from the national security issue.

      As Alan pointed out in his article written recently, Assec Sy hewed close to the Budapest Convention when it came to the security aspect but dropped the Convention’s recommendations on the human rights and free expression aspect altogether.

      He wrote:

      “The bill was supposed to follow an international agreement on specific cybercrimes, the Budapest Convention (by the way, the Philippines is not a signatory). But, in a fit of creative legal engineering, it looks as if Sy and congressmen went above and beyond what the agreement calls for. To cite an example: the Budapest Convention has a section on safeguards to protect human rights and liberties —the Philippine Cybercrime Law drops that totally. And, where the Convention lists the very specific crime of “child pornography,” RA 10175’s framers invented and added a new vague category, “cybersex”— the “willful engagement, maintenance, control, or operation, directly or indirectly, of any lascivious exhibition of sexual organs or sexual activity, with the aid of a computer system, for favor or consideration.” Looking nervously at the porn stash in your smartphone?”

      • Joe America says:

        Interesting. This guy seems a tad overly political and untrustworthy to me, but then I guess attorneys get paid not to think right or wrong, but different advocacies. It’s not cool, however, that a person who hold’s the courts’ trust in his hands, or mouth, is so fluid with things. Like the truth, or the law.

      • Parekoy says:

        “favor or consideration”

        I guess it is about cyberprostitution, where one pays to have an online live cybersex. My take: As long as they are not children, then it is just an act of commerce. It has its advantage too, venerial disease is completely absent.

        Now, what if the cybersex is done by consenting adults without any favor or consideration, would it still be considered as cybercrime?

        Grabe na kasi ang mga Palusot sa atin, nagkaron pa kasi ng rider provision sa libel, yun nabuko tuloy sila at hinihimay pa ng tao ang ibang pwedeng maging pinsala ng mga bright-bright na mambabatas at pa Genius na si Sy. Nagmumura ata ang mga Hukom sa korte suprema, sila pa ngayon ang binigyan ng sakit ng ulo at pwedeng malipat ang yamot ng taong bayan sa kanila kaysa don sa mga PU na gumawa at nagpalusot ng bulok na probisyon at igapos ang karapatang pantao sa malayang pamamahayag.

        Sabi nga ni Baycas, abangan…

        • leona says:

          Sobra tumataas lang ang ego ni ass sec Sy…kaya pati siya nawala sa draft ng Batas nya! Kalimutan nya tatastas ng ‘freedom of speech’ at ‘freedom of the Press’ tiong Batas. Kayong, depress the Press! Depress the speech!

          • moonie says:

            taas ang ego, o sobrang in a hurry, gigil and gigil thinking about enrile’s cash christmas gift in the offing?

      • macspeed says:

        ass sec sy is vicious hence meron syang blinders or blinkers he he he running like novato maiden races he he he he

        The penalty of such horses is suspension indifinetely he he he subject for barrier trial with approval of commissioner he he he

  66. leona says:

    leona says:
    January 15, 2013 at 10:13 am

    We’re getting nowwhere in many exchanges! Raissa worked so hard for every piece of article she puts here and we cannot abandon not to reciprocate for her tireless efforts by making comments unrelated to the important points or issues raised up.

    Let’s be that considerate. Once in a while ok but not 99.9999% unknowable comments. Do we want readers to find out such a kind of bloggings? Poor taste karamihan ang labas natin lahat dito.

    Can we do it or not? This is CPM place. I love this place but but but I am not sure for long.

    • Tomas Gomez III says:

      Sang – ayon po ako sa inyong daing, Leona. There is an increasing degree of impertinence that is interfering with the service and joy that we derive from being sober participants of CPM. Puwede kayang mag-tatag ng isang subsidiary blog site para doon i-redirect ang basura?

      • Parekoy says:

        @Tommy

        Majority has similar sentiments too. But a blogsite, which champions the free flow of ideas however repulsive, should stick to its cause.

        We can apply the time tested quote(attributed to so many great leaders):

        “A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members.”

        We need to show maximum tolerance even to nutcases!

        Please refer to my #8 comment.

    • Joe America says:

      I’m reminded of someone whose taste in clothing is simply godawful and so they wear the wrong garb to a party, coming across as awkward at best and clownish at worst. If there are too many of those kinds of people, the affair becomes a circus. So I know what you mean. Still, the rest can carry on a good conversation. There are a lot of properly attired people here.

      • Alan says:

        Good point, although the signal to noise ratio might have to be adjusted so there’s less static

        • Baltazar says:

          @Alan,
          Your iPhone’s S/N ratio in the picture above seems to be a bit low…hence some noise patches in the image :-)

          • Alan says:

            Yes Baltazar, those two noise patches are singularly unfortunate in their location

            • Joe America says:

              The term “singularly” or “singular” gained popularity because they were used relentlessly by Sherlock Holmes. Hence they are commonly used today by those of mighty deductive prowess.

              • Alan says:

                that’s interesting, I was unaware of that JoeAm, I’ve been using the word “singular” for years. Can’t say, though, that I have much prowess in anything except meeting editorial deadlines (usually).
                And I’ve always thought of the word “singularity” in its cosmological sense (the center of a black hole, a point of infinite density) ever since I read it eons ago in Paul Davies’ fascinating science book, Stardoom

              • Parekoy says:

                I thought it meant not married yet, like PNoy.

                Thanks joe!

              • Joe America says:

                That’s alright. I was just making it up anyhow. It is a fine word. Duplicitous is another one. And lollapalooza.

              • Alan says:

                HAHA. Whatever happened to prestidigitation?

              • Parekoy says:

                I just invented one:

                Syetnator

              • Joe America says:

                Prestidigitation went out of usage along with legerdemain when marketing people used polls to determine that “magic” had greater popular appeal. They also outlawed floccinaucinihilipilification for reasons that are probably fairly obvious.

              • Alan says:

                I wonder if that can be used in a column? might be libelous though,

    • macspeed says:

      This is CPM, anything goes beyond the topic he he he as long as wala lang magmumura o mananakit ng damdamin, hayyy , the original Plaza Miranda, may sintu sintu pa nga raw he he he

      cyber crime laws should only be regulations, warnings, pangaral, isa hanggang tatlo, pag ayaw, suspension he he he but not totally ban, kawawa naman he he he

  67. Rene-Ipil says:

    Let us identify adultery in the Revised Penal Code (RPC) as simple adultery and adultery in the cybercrime law as cyber adultery.

    The elements of simple adultery:
    1. The woman is married
    2. She has sexual intercourse with a man not her husband
    3. The man must know her to be married

    The cybercrime law added another element, that is, a computer is used to commit the crime. Meaning that the use of computer is not merely an aggravating circumstance which “aggravates” the penalty, for example, from the minimum period (6 months imprisonment) to medium (4 years imprisonment) period of prision correctional, only one period higher. Not a degree higher – meaning, for example, from prision correctional (maximum of 6 years imprisonment) to prision mayor (maximum of 12 years imprisonment).

    The cybercrime law provides another complexion to the crime of simple adultery. The use of computer becomes an element – not merely an aggravating circumstance. So that the crime penalized in the RPC by prision correctional ( 6 years ) is now punishable by prision mayor ( 12 years ) under the cybercrime law- one degree higher.

    In other words, cyber adultery can be committed ONLY with the use of computer. No computer, no cyber adultery but merely simple adultery.

    ASEC Sy commits intellectual dishonesty in saying that he could not imagine any situation where adultery could be committed through a computer. He knew pretty well that simple adultery in the RPC metamorphosed into cyber adultery when computer is used to consummate the former.

    • Parekoy says:

      Another hypothetical:

      What if the adulterer used their 4G cellphones, one for video recording and the other used as a sex toy inserted into the genital during coitus, will the Cybercrime Law be applied to this scenario and aggravate the punishment?

      • Rene-Ipil says:

        Parekoy @ 15.1

        Of course the desktop computer or maybe an iPad or mini iPad, by any stretch of imagination, cannot be used in the physical act of sexual intercourse. Maybe that was what ASEC Sy was referring to when he said that adultery cannot be committed though a computer. But the difference between me and ASEC Sy is that maybe his idea of computer use in sexual intercourse is by physical insertion of the hardware while mine is the use of the computer software in a conspiracy to develop a plan, mobilize resources and finally engage in consensual sexual intercourse between a married woman and a man.

        In fact the conspiracy to commit murder could be initiated by the use of computer for planning purposes and consummated by direct participation of the planners in the killing itself. So I steadfastly maintain that cyber adultery can be committed with the use of computer via email, google maps with street view, facebook, twitter, google earth, online payment to hotels and resorts (short time included), FedEx (which uses computers to deliver hard copy of letters, maps and oplans), etc., etc.

    • leona says:

      Punta tayo sa “Libel” sa Batas dito. Medyo nawawala itong importanteng topic. Bihira ang adultery dito. Mas marami ang magiging subject matter of the effects on libelous writings, baka, baka lang mapasama ang iba dito na manunulat sa Libel – cause and effects.

      Depress free speech! Depress the Press! Constitutional rights. Adultery hindi. Sino ang gusto hindi na makaka sulat ng marami sa cyberspace? Sino ang ma-agrabyado hindi na maka gawa ng maraming adultery? Sino at ilang ang disgustado hindi na makaka imprinta sa Press?

  68. moonie says:

    e-mail aside, I hope we are not forgetting the webcam in adulterous rendezvous where parties undress and view each other’s tomographies and private assets. I have read somewhere about commiting adultery (motives) in their libidous hearts. more like using the computer to organize activities that lead to adultery. and then, maintaining such activities through the help of a computer.

    • Parekoy says:

      That is correct.

      Technology provide alternative means as gateway to adultery. In fact the advances in internet technology are driven by the needs of the pornography industry, which is more than $50 billion dollars in revenue. Then internet gaming followed suit to provide fast real time actions among the gamers.

      Bloggers needs, I suspect are at the bottom though :-(

    • macspeed says:

      Applicable only for Husband and Wife he he he such as Sex using Skype he he he

      bakit puro adultery, lipat naman tayo Libel he he he

  69. baycas says:

    Bottom line in all these is that…

    Will “cyber adultery” be specifically mentioned in Court this afternoon?

    • Parekoy says:

      Sereno said that it depends on God’s will. She is staring at her monitor for the virtual answer from the Chistian God.

      Maybe the Scientologists’ God is more credible about cybermatters. Let’s contact Tom Cruise, he can share us his wisdom about Cyber Adultery, he might have some first hand knowledge about it.

    • raissa says:

      Maybe cybersex?

  70. Johnny Lin says:

    Asec Guillermo Sy
    An open letter to you

    You have alluded that you read Raissa blog, thus I have a confession to make.
    Ever since I was a teenager, I have been told by sexy girls that when I stared
    at them as they pass by they felt naked but the worst comment I heard was that my luscious stare seemed to impregnate her. That was reality but my action was never considered a crime.

    Now that I’m married and you wanted cyber adultery be included in cybercrime law, does it mean that my visual lust is now illegal?

    Since my stare could impregnate, will you also charge me for child support?
    I’m worried financially because I’m unemployed!

    Please answer my question

    Yours truly

    He he he

    • Johnny Lin says:

      Atty Guillermo Sy

      PS

      I think the Asian looking child of Angelina Jolie is my son since I have been staring at her even before she lived with Brad.

      Please advise me legally if I have to confess also to Angelina

      Thanks

      He he he

    • macspeed says:

      He he he he another Cultured Shocked like MRP but sensual and sexy he he

      grabee ka naman tol, tinitingnan mo lang buntis na he he he

      magagalit na si Leona, Libel naman daw he he he

  71. jcc says:

    “In other words, a married man who has multiple affairs with women who are single or whom he thought were single cannot be accused of adultery.”

    hehehe… i hope your dad is alive today raissa so he can explain to you the policy consideration behind the adultery provision tilted a little bit in favor of the husband… a married woman conceiving because of an illicit relationship with a man other than the husband creates the possiblity of a husband supporting a child not from his loin. this situation would not happen if the woman is single.

    • raissa says:

      I am aware of this consideration, which many men have abused for their selfish ends :-(

      • Rene-Ipil says:

        Jcc & Raissa @ 11/11.1

        Not only the maintenance and support of a child not his own. It would be totally unfair and completely devastating when the husband died and the said child becomes his sole heir to the detriment of his own blood and legal heirs, i.e., parents or siblings.

        • Parekoy says:

          @Rene,

          Still archaic, if that is the main consideration. DNA test is now available and if the father has some doubts, then perform one rather than imposing unjust punishment to the mother.

          The absence of divorce actually burdens so many couples, specially the middle class and the poor. The cost to get annulment is prohibitive and only favors the rich. Kris Aquino was able to because she can afford to hire annulment lawyers. Koko and Chiz are on the same track.

          A number of our politicians, if given a choice, would be in favor of a divorce law. With a divorce bill, amending or repealing the adultery law is now appealling to harmonize the intent of the related laws.

          When RH became the law of the land, it loosened the grip and influence of the Catholic Church in the legislative branch. It is logical that to tackle the divorce and adultery laws. If they insist to influence, the state can likewise insist by asking them to pay taxes to be able to participate in the political process. They can’t have their cake and it it too. No representation without taxation.

          • Rene-Ipil says:

            Parekoy@ 11.1

            You are absolutely right. The basis of adultery law is archaic and anachronistic. The 1932 law on adultery aims to deter spurious heirs and protect the rights of true heirs. Now, the paternal link is easily determined via DNA testing. The adultery provision has no more underpinning. And adultery is already a ground for legal separation and, soon, divorce.

        • leona says:

          There is somewhat a move to amend further the New Family Code to put ‘illegitimate children” on same footing as to “rights” with legitimate children. Seems fair and right! If done…meaning amended, no ascendants or collateral relatives can come in when there are ‘all children’ surviving the deceased parent.

          The New Civil Code and New Family Code are still of ‘old school thought.’

          • Joe America says:

            Good to know. I wrote on this last week: “Is Poverty Illegitimate?” thesocietyofhonor(dot)blogspot(dot)com/2013/01/is-poverty-illegitimate.html

            A child is innocent of the conditions leading to his or her birth, and to promote a lifelong condemnation of the child is horribly insensitive.

    • Parekoy says:

      The adultery and concubinage laws should be repealed.

      This is unfair to to both parties. If either find that their marriage is not working, they should be matured enough to have a divorce. I was jumping the gun, there is no divorce law yet but only annulment.

      Sy created a myriad of problems by making the Cybercrime Law all encompassing, now they are extricating himself by justifying each.

      The Cybercrime Law is adulterated especially by inserting those libel provisions.

      If we are truly serious prosecuting adulterers, we should start with Sy and Senators who inserted these adulterated law, whose impact is sweeping because of their careless crafting of this law.

      • Parekoy says:

        I am guilty of murdering the english language by hastily posting without a review, but compared to their irresponsibility and incompetence, mine is just a quark compared to their bloated egos.

        • leona says:

          @Parekoy, either you are just as innocent for being hasty like the lawmakers who also hastily rammed the cybercrime bill into law, or just as guilty for same reason. Either way, innocence will be in your favor rather than guilty for ‘adulterous’ english language!

          • baycas says:

            As the blog post mentioned, “computer penetration is high“…

            “Insertion”, as introduced, err, inserted by @Yvonne last year is now passé.

            “Penetration” is the new high…

            Thus, “Cyber Adultery” definitely exists, contrary to Asec Sy’s contention, because cyber penetration may result in gratification not only virtually but, oftentimes, real.

            • Parekoy says:

              Until the engineers improve the Wii/Xbox360/PS3 remote controllers to fit it with phallus- like and anatomically correct female genital toys together with all the real time feedbacks, then we can say that man harnessed his creativity to the fullest and reached unprecedented level in providing real satisfying cybersex! That’s the time those self-righteous moralists can make their case about sex related offenses.

              • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

                Ewwww !!! Gross !!!! NEVER DO SEX.

                Sex is clinically unsanitary, absolutely not hygeinic. People who indulge casual recreatiional sex 7 times a week have obsessive compulsive behaviour close to addiction.

                Sex is procreation. God did not intend it to be recreation.

              • Alan says:

                besides there is always the ever present danger that sex might result nine months later in Ignacio

              • Parekoy says:

                @Pacifico

                i suggest that you flip your preference in procreation and recreation, so you can do favor to mankind.

                It is like pleading, “We have enough of Johnny Enrile, please do not create more Jackies!”

              • Baltazar says:

                @Parekoy,
                ….Until the engineers improve the Wii/Xbox360/PS3 remote controllers to fit it with phallus- like and anatomically correct female genital toys together with all the real time feedback…
                Funny it is, but this idea could become the next big thing in the hybrid world of cyber-sex-gaming. I am a part-time developer and my mind is now playing on the idea of how an Android app can turn a cellphone into a dildo with just a single or few attachment/s — GROSE!

            • raissa says:

              Ahhh, Baycas.

              I see you noticed THAT phrase.

            • macspeed says:

              what do you mean by Penetration??? he he he that is haram (bad) he he he slowly but surely, MRP is spreading his Cultured shock Viruses he he he

              • baycas says:

                @macspeed,

                If you will refer back to earlier @raissa’s blog posts “insertion” was the double entendre word then.

                I believe the word “penetration” is now the in thing…inasmuch as it was written in the blog post as I noted in my previous comment on it.

                Kindly read my Comment No. 29 to further understand.

                Thank you.

              • baycas says:

                Incidentally, I resent the notion that I got afflicted of anything…

                The only virus worth spreading (and, worth getting!) here is the “get involved” virus. We are thankful that @raissa gave us the platform.

          • Parekoy says:

            Punishment should be commensurate to the crime committed. I might be punished by reading, understanding, and memorizing the book, The Elements of Style and buying and use spell check before sending. :-)

        • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

          @Parekoy, I googled Penal Code of the Philippines they do not have punishment for MURDERING ENGLISH as long as you are understood you will only be subjected to Reclusion Perpetua MEANING you are not allowed to post until you have resurrected english.

          • Parekoy says:

            I respect people who uses their wits.

            See, it shows that you are not unredeemable after all. That is a good start!

            Keep taking your medication regularly and even with your condition you can still act normally in the cyberworld :-)

        • Parekoy says:

          @leona,

          You characterized how our lawmakers perform in bed by describing their preferred action: Rammed!

          Seems Raissa is right, they were acting like male chauvinist pigs after all. Few women might enjoy that, but majority would prefer the slow, tender, and thourough process, which leads to ultimate satisfying and gratifying (out)come.

          • leona says:

            @Parekoy…kaya marami na rin ang “uncomfortable women” sa Cybercrime law! ‘Kala ko Japanese soldados lang ang marunong ng ‘ramming!’

  72. baycas says:

    Cybercrime Law Oral Arguments Set on January 15; Justice Abad Confers with Counsels for Orderly Oral Arguments
    Posted: January 4, 2012; By Gleo Sp. Guerra

    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/pio/news/2013/01/01041301.php

    CYBERCRIME PETITIONS SC BULLETIN No. 2
    Posted: January 9, 2012

    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/pio/news/2013/01/01091302.php

    CYBERCRIME PETITIONS SC BULLETIN No. 3
    Posted: January 9, 2012

    http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/pio/news/2013/01/cybercrime_advisory.pdf

  73. viewko says:

    gudibning, ms. raissa, everyone:
    again, well researched po, and solidly argued. which made me think that, with the proliferation of very sophisticated editing programs, and with the ease with which hackers are able to attack the internet, maraming magiging problema. indeed, government should take the stand that data taken from the internet should not be taken seriously, unless, perhaps, corroborated by other facts not coming from the internet. kasi po, very public ang internet as it is, lahat pwedeng gumamit. kaya lahat ng trash masasagap dun.
    it then follows that all crimes shall still be processed according to existing penal code, and the cybercrime law should therefore only address hacking and other improper use of the internet…heh, heh. tsaka, yung privacy, whether ordinary handwritten letter or an sms through the internet, dapat government should protect. maraming hihinto sa paggamit ng internet pag itinuloy ung pwedeng pakialaman ng kung anong department ng gobyerno yun without need of a court order. (automatic shortcut yun. heh, heh. hindi naman pwede sabihing inaalis lang yung redtape. heh, heh.)

    • leona says:

      @Viewko…Raissa is much better than all the lawmerriers who didn’t bother to study and review the cybercrime bill…thus, it became a stupid law. Some of them ‘voted’ without bothering what was voted ‘YES’ for! Another additional stupid acts by lawmerriers!

  74. parekoy says:

    @Raissa,

    I really commend your blogsite for it welcomes all ideas and to name a few:

    brilliant
    average
    idiotic
    racist
    evangelic
    satirical
    sanctimonious
    comic
    apologetic
    authoritarian
    collegial
    prescriptive
    witty
    flat
    etc.

    This blogsite is also disability friendly as obviously shown by the restraint and tolerance accorded to a person with cyber epileptic seizures ;-)

    • raissa says:

      Thanks, Parekoy.

    • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      @Parekoy, sooooo true !!!

      I Go placidly amidst the noise and haste. As far as possible without surrender I will be on good terms with all persons. I Speak truth and analysis quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.

      • parekoy says:

        @Pacifico

        Let me be polite to you and point out some of your discrepancies in your statements @8.2

        noise-that is what you usually contribute here.

        haste-very hyper as shown by your rapid nonsensical response.

        good terms with all persons-not to all the bloggers here but to your Multi-personalities.

        analysis-what you contribute here is devoid of that process.

        quietly-I believed that when you shussssh yourself.

        clearly- that you have disability, clearly with your impoverished ideas evident by reposting your rehashed and tiresome rants.

        listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant- I definitely agree that you listen to yourself!

        Before I forget, you might have not noticed but please wipe your saliva and froth. I can understand, though I can’t stand the way you smell, but I assume that you are hydrophobic. Seriously, you may want to see a doctor.

        What are the symptoms of rabies in humans?

        http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/cd/cdrab-faq.shtml#q5

        Early symptoms, which may last for several days, include irritability, headache, fever, malaise, and sometimes discomfort or tingling at the site of the bite or exposure. Within days the patient may develop slight or partial paralysis, hallucinations, agitation, hypersalivation, difficulty swallowing, hydrophobia (fear of water), anxiety, confusion, excitation, convulsions, delirium and death.

        .

      • parekoy says:

        @Pacifico

        Let me be polite to you and point out some of your discrepancies in your statements @8.2

        noise-that is what you usually contribute here.

        haste-very hyper as shown by your rapid nonsensical response.

        good terms with all persons-not to all the bloggers here but to your Multi-personalities.

        analysis-what you contribute here is devoid of that process.

        quietly-I believed that when you shussssh yourself.

        clearly- that you have disability, clearly with your impoverished ideas evident by reposting your rehashed and tiresome rants.

        listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant- I definitely agree that you listen to yourself!

        Before I forget, you might have not noticed but please wipe your saliva and froth. I can understand, though I can’t stand the way you smell, but I assume that you are hydrophobic. Seriously, you may want to see a doctor.

        What are the symptoms of rabies in humans?

        Early symptoms, which may last for several days, include irritability, headache, fever, malaise, and sometimes discomfort or tingling at the site of the bite or exposure. Within days the patient may develop slight or partial paralysis, hallucinations, agitation, hypersalivation, difficulty swallowing, hydrophobia (fear of water), anxiety, confusion, excitation, convulsions, delirium and death.

        (gathered from nyc.gov-link removed to free from the quarantined comments with links.)

    • fed_up says:

      @parekoy. I’m just curious and I don’t want to be like a cat. Is “a person with cyber epileptic seazures” has anything to do with somebody who has a “blazing keyboard” (“nagbabagang keyboard)? Joke lang, peace!

    • macspeed says:

      he he he this site is the best site i have ever surf with…

      keep it up guys he he he

    • erwin says:

      @ Parekoy,

      “This…….. tolerance accorded to a person with cyber epileptic seizures ;-)”

      I really do not know what happened to Dr. Phil who was very busy in accommodating all the trolls during the Corona saga. I think we need his help to finally give a medicine or two to THIS PERSON WITH CYBER EPILEPTIC SEIZURES.

      And by the way, sana my idol Johnny Lin contribute some jokes especially for this person with cyber epileptic seizures……di ba?

  75. Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

    Where do I apply for cyber-marriage?

    The Philippine government cannot even deploy a simple fillable pdf individual income tax return?

    WHO ARE THEY KIDDING ME?

    Where do I apply for cyber-separation?
    cyber-divorce?

    I cannot even pay my water and power bills on-line. How much more cyber-adultery? The Filipinos cannot even know how far Spratleys from the Philippines and how far the recently purchased “nmilitary” helicopters can fly.

    NEVER A DULL MOMENT IN THE PHILIPPINES. I’m lovin’ it. Life is Goot.
    NO WONDER PHILIPPINES IS A FUN PLACE. It is a funny place. Run by funny senators voted and elected by FUNNY PEOPLE.

    • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      THE FILIPINOS EAT MORE THAN THEY CAN CHEW.

      Will there be a crime against those people de-friending me ?

      Will there be DUE PROCESS before someone bans and block me from websites ?

      Will there be CYBER-PRISON SYSTEM? CYBER-POLICE? CYBER-JAIL? CYBER-JUDGE?

      HA! HA! HA! This is truly funny, DO FILIPINOS EXIST? OR THEY ARE JUST VIRTUAL?

      Filipinos, c’mon. You making me nervous. MAYBE THE VIRTUAL FILIPINOS ARE HIT BY VIRUSES. I went to my cyber-doctor and he had me by McAfee or McCafe from McDonalds to protect me from VIRUSES.

      JESUS MARY MOTHYER OF GOD, HELP US FFROM SELF-DESTRUCTION FROM FILIPINOS.

      • Johnny Lin says:

        Mariano
        Banning you is a kind or hospitable act to you.
        You are already doing our kindness a favor, self inflicted torture on your part. Gitmo torture doesn’t rise to your level.

        Analyze this : you talk incoherently and incessantly then you answer your own postings non stop. Even Dr Phil and Dr Oz don’t have cures for you YET!

        Not in the near future
        Even when all Filipinos will become GOOT
        He he he

      • Alan says:

        Also save us from presidents like Arroyo and chief justices like Corona

    • Mel says:

      ang chulat mu “Where do I apply for cyber-marriage?”

      umpisahan mo sa cyber email-by-order-bride.

      baka makabingwit ka ng desperada.

      • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

        HA! HA! HA! Mel, naman, naman …

        I love mail-order-bride. I can filter it by sex, age, height, religion, etceteras …

        Then hit SUBMIT.

        It ask you 24-hour delivery: UPS, FedEx, Philippine Post

        Here is the problem: I have to process import documents thru Philippine Embassy and pay import duties.

  76. Mel says:

    “Dear Atty Sy, if cyber adultery doesn’t exist, why is it listed?”, that is a good question to put forward to Department of Justice (DOJ) Assistant Secretary Geronimo Sy. Ibalik sa kaniya dahil siya naman ang sumulat at nagbigay sa mga Senador as their Bill drafts. Turn the table. He got it wrong, and the Senators willy-nilly and Congressmen jumped in the wagon. Turo turo sila…

    Even Military Generals can get it wrong on Adultery played on cyberspace.

    One cost him the Directorship of CIA, ENTER SHIRTLESS F.B.I. AGENT, FOLLOWED BY GENERAL ALLEN

    Email exchanges, photo images (?) and a trail of virtual exchanges on ICT infrastructure didn’t cloud the steamy and flirtatious content inspite of military grade security.

    Someone was snooping how serious and real it was. Not all the Encryption technology can cover the lusts between, another one passed on himself shirtless to bait perhaps …

    Source:

    - General Petraeus, Adultery and Patriotism

    - Officials Say F.B.I. Knew of Petraeus Affair in the Summer

    - Veteran F.B.I. Agent Helped Start Petraeus E-Mail Inquiry

    - The Petraeus scandal: What we know

    - Widening scandal focuses on ‘flirtatious’ e-mails

    Ooiii even by just looking at an opposite sex with grrrh lustful eyes, he/she commits Spiritual Adultery. MUCH DAMNING THAN CYBER ADULTERY.

    But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” – Jesus Christ from Matthew Chapter 5 Verse 28.

    • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      The basis of cyber-adultery is from, quoting Mel:

      “But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already commioted adultery with her in his heart” – Jesus Christ from Matthew Chapter 5 Verse 28.

      I TRULY AGREE.

      Cyber-adultery may not exist but Sy must have got it from the orders of re-interpretative religion from the Vatican.

      Watching porn should also be punishable by beheadings .

      • macspeed says:

        he he he he that is goot, gagawa ng cybercrime law kulang pa, isama na rin yan>>Watching porn should also be punishable by beheadings

        my goodness, ito na lang kasayahan ko maliligwak pa dahil cybercrime law na yan, dapat regulations lang, wag parusa then 1 degree higher pa penalty?

        Adultery is only in real life, kung makikita yun evidencia sa internet na mag dadate sila, pede magsama ka ng pulis at hulihin sa akto, guide or help lang yun sa internet info.

        Ang babae kung gagawa ng kasamaan, bakit mag iinternet pa sya???

    • leona says:

      Had DOJ Sy consulted and work out the cybercrime law with Raissa and CPMers here, that bill would have been summarily thrown into the garbage can, for dustbin history!

      There is or was an evil motive WHY this law, not studied very well, was soooooo hurriedly passed and signed into law.

      Just imagine, all the provisions of the Revised Penal Code and even SPECIAL LAWS all crammed into the Cybercrime bill…the lawmerriers just couldn’t wait to study all this. Evil Evil Evil. Now, as I said, the proponents and authors are holding HOT BARS OF IRON before the SC. Will the Court ‘touch or feel’ these bars too? Who wants burned hands!

  77. Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

    JESUS MARY MOTHER OF GOD HELP US FROM THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR OWN … !!!

    Cyber-Adultery? Cyber-Marriage? Cyber-divorce?

    If there is such thing as Cyberadultery, there should be cyber-marriage and cyber-divorce, RIGHT? Well, we already have e-Harmony, cyber-friends, virtual friends. Going out to see physical friends is sooooo in the 90s. Aw, c’mon. I visit friends virtually. We exchange pictures like I send it thru Philippine post.

    What about sexual fantasy ? That is adultery, too !!!!!! HOw would a partner feel if they are having sex while watching Brad Pitt and Zooey Zinfandel’s pictures for arousal?

    HAS THE FILIPINO SENATE GONE CRAZY ? INSANE?

    Well, Filipinos get what they voted for.

    • Alan says:

      yep, they got Estrada. Then they got Arroyo. Oh, wait , they didn’t vote for her. Garci did

      • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

        Aw, c’mon, Alan, stop flogging a dead horse. Garci is absolutely history. There was not even voiceprint verification of the telephone call. It may be acceptable to 3rdworld Asian trash country but totally not acceptable in 1stworld 21st century countries without voice verification which to this day this 3rdworld Asian trash has not done so.

        Well, 3rdworld justice for 3rdworld englischtzes-proud-country.

        • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

          That is why Aling Gloria graduate from 1stworld ivy-school is confident she can get away with it along with Garci because it was illegal wiretapping …..

          I remember my parents told me about O.J. Simpson. There was a Filipino houseslave that heard something, a Filipno glove manufacturing executive wanted to testify but American Judge did not have them put in the stand because they are not reliable.

          That is a big slap on Filipino race.

        • Alan says:

          tsk tsk, I notice how you have a crush on Gloria. Any other sleazy officials you defend?

  78. parekoy says:

    @raissa,

    I have a different take on this.

    Why should the state keep this adultery law as crime? This is based on biblical times and we should grow up. It is a family matter but not a state matter. Why do we try to uphold the separation of church and state yet we have laws based on the imposed moralities of the church?

    I am not against treating it as a misdemeanor. But as a crime, we are too hypocritical and imposing moralities to consenting adults.

    If it is to be taken as a breach of marriage contract, then we can make provisions in the laws that can punish the offender in the civil courts by awarding cash commensurate to the economic loss of the plaintiff as punitive damages.

    We also need to get rid of adultery laws as a crime in tandem with creating divorce laws. Only then we can claim that our laws are just regarding couples.

    • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      SEXUAL FANTASY is a biblical crime. If you beleive in God you believe in the bible, therefore, fantasy is a crime.

      Heeeelllllo !!!!! Knock! Knock! Dr. Holmes ? You, there?

      Sexual fantasy is like cyber adultery, right, ‘home? Errrrr, Holmes?

      The Senate will be controlling our minds, too !!!! WoW!!!!!!!!!

      Why would they be controlling my minds when they cannot even tell that these helicopters against Chinese cannot even fly round trip to Spratleys and the brilliant Philippine Media are sooooo silent in impeaching Co Huang Co on these.

      • Alan says:

        so wait, these are different from the helicopters that Arroyo’s husband used and then sold at a markup to the military? are those the ones you’re referring to?

    • leona says:

      @Parekoy…adultery is plain and simple prohibited SEX. Biblical or whatever, it’s a subjective crime, a spouse complains about it. State entertains the complaint.

      It was long committed before the time of Moses. Divorce before his time was not allowed. Watch Cecil de Mille’s Ten Commandments…7th Article THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY…implanted in the Tablets via cyberspace, written with fire on stone! Nice movie, classic.

      What then if it was in the Ten Commandments? Moses had to think. Remedy? He had to allow DIVORCE between SPOUSES for the crime of adultery as adultery couldn’t be stopped. Amend the crimes of adultery and concubinage by putting an additional CLAUSE – divorce for both crimes.

  79. Parekoy says:

    @Raissa

    I have a different take on this.

    Why should the state keep this adultery law as crime? This is based on biblical times and we should grow up. It is a family matter but not a state matter. Why do we try to uphold the separation of church and state yet we have laws based on the imposed moralities of the church?

    I am not against treating it as a misdemeanor. But as a crime, we are too hypocritical and imposing moralities to consenting adults.

    If it is to be taken as a breach of marriage contract, then we can make provisions in the laws that can punish the offender in the civil courts by awarding cash commensurate to the economic loss of the plaintiff as punitive damages.

    We also need to review the elimination of adultery laws as a crime in tandem with creating divorce laws. Only then we can claim that our laws are just regarding couples.

    • raissa says:

      I agree.

      We need to review these laws.

    • springwoodman says:

      1. I would go farther and say adultery is neither a felony nor a misdemeanour.
      2. But what about concubinage and bigamy?
      3. If one were logically consistent, one would have to admit that – beyond legal definitions – sexual relationships between and among consenting adults should not be considered a criminal offense. Islam recognizes polygyny and, although rare, certain cultures approve of polyandry.

      4. Both men and women have promiscuous tendencies.
      5. If the offspring were properly protected, provided for and properly brought up, should not any and all types of marital arrangements be allowed?
      6. Should not polygamy be considered a feasible solution to poverty – and the neglect of children – in the Philippines?

      • Parekoy says:

        Polygamy according to Moslem Laws is conditional too. Men are allowed upto four wives, as long as he was given consent by the other wives.

        In my view, this is unfair to women and one-sided. If men are allowed to marry four, why not the women too?

  80. netty says:

    I am not a religious person but I just c/p this biblical event re: adultery that Jesus chanced to judge.
    The crowd caught an adulterous woman and here’s what ff ; ““We caught her committing adultery … we caught her in the very act. The Law of Moses says she should die. What do you say?
    Jesus was faced with quite a dilemma! Before Him that morning was a woman unquestionably guilty of a serious offense. There was no way Jesus could question the validity of the accusation, and there is no evidence He did. She was caught in the act; there were witnesses; the woman herself was not denying the charge. Her guilt was indisputable! Under the Law of Moses the penalty for adultery was DEATH. Leviticus 20:10 declares that when an adulterous situation occurs, both “the adulterer and the adulteress (i.e., both the man and the woman) shall surely be put to death.” Deuteronomy 22:22-24 clearly states the same severe penalty! God views this as a serious matter, even though many of His people seemingly do not.” Truly this has broad interpretation that not only confines to penetration between married/unmarried couples. In biblical concept even one desirous longing for a woman or a man is already an unfaithfulness within one’s heart. Here’s more food for thought for Assec. Sy. In traditional theology and I ask him to consult the tireless Catholic authorities aka bishop et al that in some religion, even intermingling with other race is regarded as adultery. Sex with animals is also considered adulterous so the partner is not supposed to be only human.This law re of Ph adultery is very much a macho protector and breathes of a double standard. These PNOY OFFICIALS NEED TO CYBER-RESEARCH a lot to dig in to be able to reach the so called 18 hole, hihihii

    • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      How would the government track cyber-adultery ? If they cannot even arrest a wang-wanger, Hackers how would the government do that?

      THIS IS TRULY A FIGMENT OF BORED SENATE’S IMAGINATION.

      We will again be laughing stock of the world.

      THE SENATE and the MEDIA atre now thinking like PYONGYANG.

      MIght as well OUTSOURCE THE PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT …… PLEASE …….

    • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      I AM LOVING THIS CYBER-ADULTERY.

      HEre is why, FINALLY, there is a legal way of eliminating FILIPINOS FROM THE FACE OF THE WORLD.

      Cyber-ADultery Deuteric Deuterimos Deuteronmy Astronomy.

      LET IT PASS !!!!! Once the Filipinos has been cyber-adulterated I WILL PICK islands of BAtnangas as my cyber vacation spot.

    • tristanism says:

      O e ano na po nangyari dun sa babae?

      (Curious lang po.)

      • netty says:

        You mean the woman mentioned in the story? First of all we don’t know if it was sexual in nature. Keep in mind that perhaps even the bible has other/ different meanings of the word adultery. W e know in this modern day that adultery is sexual cohabitation, one night stand is just a fling. Suffice it to say for yours , mine and others curiosity , the woman ” shall not inherit the kingdom of God” .. dead or alive she was toast, good q Tristan, you made me think. too.

  81. Johnny Lin says:

    I’m off the rodeo rope of cyber sheriff Geronimo Sy.
    I’m guilty of adultery, not the usual kind, not even cyber adultery.
    My crime is not yet included in cybercrime law.

    It is “Adulterinception”.
    Remember Inception of Leonardo DiCaprio.

    Now that Sec Sy have read this word, I’m afraid he will incorporate it also in the cybercrime law.

    What kind of intelligence does PNoy put in charge in his administration?
    Rico Puno of DILG, Gen Pangilinan of BMJP, now DOJ Asec Sy.
    Wow!

    • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

      “What kind of intelligence does Pnoy put in charge …”

      MY IMMUTABLE AXIOM #69 still works to this day and forever will be …

      “WHAT GOOT IS A GOOT PRESIDENT IF 99.99998% OF FILIPINOS ARE NOT GOOT?”

      It is no wonder former President U.S. McKinley has had sleeless nights and migraine and headaches when Dewey asked McKinley, “SIR, SPANIARDS ARE DEAD. We have Filipinos in our hands. What should we do? Leave them to their devices or colonize and RE-EDUCATE THEM?”

      McKinley: “Dewey, put Philippines on the map. We will re-educate them BECAUSE FILIPINOS ARE DANGER TO THE PLANET EARTH”

      Dewey: “Aye Aye, sir. Who will lead the Filipinos?”

      McKinley: “Bring back that S-O-B Gen Aguinaldo that sold Philippines and the Filipinos for six pence and have him lead”

      Dewey: “Aye Aye, sir. We will send useless ARMED-LESS HARM-LESS coast guard cutter to fetch Gen Aguinaldo”

      The rest is history … Sold-out Filipinos made Gen Aguinaldo their president and to this day remain forever and forever there will always be.

    • parekoy says:

      Ergo, Pacifico is underqualified to be employed by PNoy admin?

      • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

        I am qualified. Look at the percentages above it says 99.99998%

        The 0.0000002% is benign0 and I, me, mine.

        • manuelbuencamino says:

          Pacifico there are not enough straight jackets, padded cells, and medications in this world for you and benignO.

          • Mariano Renato Pacifico says:

            I take offense of placing my name and benign0 in one sentence. benign0 of Get Real? Oh, puhleeez. Now I am getting rashes. benign0 is true blue anti-anything thy kingdom come. While I am more in DAAN-MATUWID in a dirt road to the boondocks.

            Gosh, you are reading off my comment above. I do not mean benign0 of Get Real that are the last remaining sane Filipino. I meant benign0 Simeon Co Huang Co A Qui No.

            Whenever I use benign0 it doesn’t mean benign0 of Get Real. IT MEANS OUR PRESIDENT.

            Since we are at benign0 of Get Real, I just wonder how he is doing. I hear his website has become cyber-derelict along with Filipino Voices.

            • Johnny Lin says:

              Mariano

              Adulterinception is adulterous dreams
              Your aligning with Benigno Co juang co is known as INTELLECEPTION in Inception or Dreamworld, that is dreaming to be INTELLIGENT ON YOUR PART in the level of President Aquino.

              BenignO answer to you is HELL, AQUI NO( hell, here No)!!!

              Capitalized to wake you up
              He he he

      • leona says:

        We’re getting nowwhere in many exchanges! Raissa worked so hard for every piece of article she puts here and we cannot abandon not to reciprocate for her tireless efforts by making comments unrelated to the important points or issues raised up.

        Let’s be that considerate. Once in a while ok but not 99.9999% unknowable comments. Do we want readers to find out such a kind of bloggings? Poor taste karamihan ang labas natin lahat dito.

        Can we do it or not? This is CPM place. I love this place but but but I am not sure for long.

        • e.a. pascual says:

          have found the solution to tiresome repetitive irrelevant rants whose only purpose that i can see is to make noise so as to attract notice and attention: include them in the count of vewers that come to this site and they will serve statistics favorable to this site but. do not read them and most importantly do not respond to them. we are talking here of the power of shunning and ignoring. let us continue to pay attention to what will educate and empower us. the discipline we develop in using this approach will empower us in the long run.

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